Discussion Characters you'd like to be in Cross Guild

[WILDCARD 1 7]

I'm pretty sure somebody already made this thread but if they haven't well here you go.As the title says what characters you think should the guild and why.

Caesar Clown
Personally, before the cover story,I thought that Caesar would make her a good addition to the guild because of his personality, scientific abilities, and history with MADS and the underworld.

Who's Who
I don't think that we are done with the character and this should be the perfect opportunity to flush
in his backstory out a bit more. Plus it's creating interesting dynamic between him and Hawkeye or at least a comedic one.

Apoo
Cuz really he fit right in these guys. And they could use the supernova I guess and it would keep him in the story.

Moria.
Why we would work for a number of reasons. He's the one who had the body of Captain Jack, whose treasure buggy was looking for. And create an interesting dynamic between him and crocodile of trying to take over the guild. And could try to use it to take revenge on Blackbeard.
The con are being him being another ex-Warlord when we are already have three. And we don't know whether he join Blackbeard or not.

 

[afromarco005]

I would rather see doffy and boa in the guild. Doffy is very strong and charismatic while boa is a fearsome fighter.

I wouldnt mind if every past shishibukai ended up joining though.

 

[Riku]

I'd totally do Mihawk

Joking aside,I could see Apoo joining up. Maybe X Drake depending on how the SWORD storyline progresses.

Moria, if alive, is probably a grudging BB lieutenant or prisoner now.

Boa... Maybe if she sees that as the best option to add some extra security to Amazon Lily. But I really doubt that, she is likely trying to reach Luffy right now.

Doffy I don't see escaping for now.

Also, since somebody has to say these two: Gin and Scopper Gaban.

 

[WILDCARD 1 7]

Duffy that didn't exactly go well the last time he asked crocodile to join with him. Besides I think he's a little too much like crocodile to begin with.

Boa I can see the kind of insert herself as a spy (self appointed for her great love Luffy obviously) to keep track of these guys.

Gaimon I mean he really shift the power balance in their favor but these guys might be a little too little league for him.

 

[grey matter]

Doflamingo for sure.
Imagine Doffy with post prison zenkai boost

Top tier Doflamingo incoming

Would love to see characters like Hawkins, Page One, Ulti, WsW etc. there as well.

They could also raid the impel down and recruit like BB did.......main reason them going there being to free Doflamingo

 

[WILDCARD 1 7]

This probely isn't going to happen, but I can imagine a scenaro where if Kizara leaves the Marinese I can see him taking a page out if Kuzan book and join Cross guild. Maybe has a spy or maybe cause he's he's got no place to go. And probly be the best choice for him narritivly since he killed Vegapunk I don't really think Dragon (or Luffy) would want him after just killing Vegapunk, Blackbeard all ready has Kuzan, I can't really see him joining Shanks.

 

[RaisinRisin]

This probely isn't going to happen, but I can imagine a scenaro where if Kizara leaves the Marinese I can see him taking a page out if Kuzan book and join Cross guild. Maybe has a spy or maybe cause he's he's got no place to go. And probly be the best choice for him narritivly since he killed Vegapunk I don't really think Dragon (or Luffy) would want him after just killing Vegapunk, Blackbeard all ready has Kuzan, I can't really see him joining Shanks.

I can't see Kizaru ever allying himself with a group that sponsors bounties on marines. If I had to guess at a faction he would join, I'd suspect SWORD, but I see him as more of a potential free agent. Let's see if he tries for early retirement.

I think Yamato joining Cross Guild temporarily would be hilarious. (I just hope the pilgrimage is done first if that does happen.)

 

[WILDCARD 1 7]

I can't see Kizaru ever allying himself with a group that sponsors bounties on marines. If I had to guess at a faction he would join, I'd suspect SWORD, but I see him as more of a potential free agent. Let's see if he tries for early retirement.

I think Yamato joining Cross Guild temporarily would be hilarious. (I just hope the pilgrimage is done first if that does happen.)

True which is why I said it probley wouldn't happen. But most people couldn't see Aokji joining Blackbeard a man who inslaves people. And I did say possibly as a spy. Besides doing what he just did in killing a friend only for it to go south anyway can change a person alot. As for SWORD as for as I see it their just the same faction as the Marines which means their still working for the WG so their would be know difference. And I highly doudt that Oda is going to take Kizaru out of the story its Oda after all.

 

[RaisinRisin]

True which is why I said it probley wouldn't happen. But most people couldn't see Aokji joining Blackbeard a man who inslaves people. And I did say possibly as a spy. Besides doing what he just did in killing a friend only for it to go south anyway can change a person alot. As for SWORD as for as I see it their just the same faction as the Marines which means their still working for the WG so their would be know difference. And I highly doudt that Oda is going to take Kizaru out of the story its Oda after all.

Sorry, I didn't mean Kizaru would just randomly decide to join them for no reason. Right now, I'm thinking he might half-ass his job for a while, or he might try to retire, but there has to be a proper trigger for him to take action against the WG.

We all know there are plenty of precedents in the story for marines bending the rules to support the Straw Hats (and even the Revolutionary army, in Fujitora's case). SWORD is highly likely to act against the WG's wishes in future. That's when I suspect they could get support from Kizaru. Not only are Coby and Drake there-- people who both have a more nuanced understanding of what the Straw Hats are all about than the papers are giving people, but Drake found out about CP0 weapons deals with Kaidou and fought them at Wano, something that surely left a bad taste in his mouth with regard to the unsavoury activities of the WG. Hopefully that's what has him so pensive right now. I wouldn't be surprised if Drake puts 2 and 2 together about the current Egghead situation as well.

If SWORD members see some injustice of the WG in future they can't ignore, and if Kizaru happens to be around while they're taking action, I can see him backing them up. But again, it's a right time, right place kind of thing. It's hard to be sure but I feel more like he's alone in the "wilderness" right now, spinning his wheels and not sure what to do.

 

[M3J]

I'd love to see Aokiji join. I still feel like he's a double agent because he knows how dangerous Blackbeard is and wants to keep tabs on him, but he's also not part of the Marines because of the way the organization and the WG are.

And if possible, I'd like to see Katakuri as well, without Big Mom, joining. Dunno how much of his crew he'd bring, but Katakuri would be a powerufl ally to have considering the only reason he lost to Luffy was because he chose to lose, even though Luffy can beat him now.

 

[WILDCARD 1 7]

Sorry, I didn't mean Kizaru would just randomly decide to join them for no reason. Right now, I'm thinking he might half-ass his job for a while, or he might try to retire, but there has to be a proper trigger for him to take action against the WG.

We all know there are plenty of precedents in the story for marines bending the rules to support the Straw Hats (and even the Revolutionary army, in Fujitora's case). SWORD is highly likely to act against the WG's wishes in future. That's when I suspect they could get support from Kizaru. Not only are Coby and Drake there-- people who both have a more nuanced understanding of what the Straw Hats are all about than the papers are giving people, but Drake found out about CP0 weapons deals with Kaidou and fought them at Wano, something that surely left a bad taste in his mouth with regard to the unsavoury activities of the WG. Hopefully that's what has him so pensive right now. I wouldn't be surprised if Drake puts 2 and 2 together about the current Egghead situation as well.

If SWORD members see some injustice of the WG in future they can't ignore, and if Kizaru happens to be around while they're taking action, I can see him backing them up. But again, it's a right time, right place kind of thing. It's hard to be sure but I feel more like he's alone in the "wilderness" right now, spinning his wheels and not sure what to do.

No need to apologize I wasn't offended or anything I understood what you were saying lol.

Sword itself isn't really a rogue unit it's just there a Black Ops unit / Commandos that's still really just works the Marines. So as I said Kizaru joining would literally be still just be a Marine in there. Sure there's your scenario of Drake trying to have sword rebel against the WG which could or could not happen but that's also hypothetical right now though it does have more of a chance than Kizaru joining Cross Guild lol.

Besides the only real reason why I said anything about Kizaru going Cross Guild was cuz they need some strong members and depending on how all this plays out could be blamed for all of this and leave or be forced out.

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I'd love to see Aokiji join. I still feel like he's a double agent because he knows how dangerous Blackbeard is and wants to keep tabs on him, but he's also not part of the Marines because of the way the organization and the WG are.

And if possible, I'd like to see Katakuri as well, without Big Mom, joining. Dunno how much of his crew he'd bring, but Katakuri would be a powerufl ally to have considering the only reason he lost to Luffy was because he chose to lose, even though Luffy can beat him now.

I think having Kuzan going from Blackbeard to Cross Guilde would be all but saying that he's a spy to someone like Crocodile.

And I can't see Katakuri leaving the Big mom Pirates with how loyal he is to them. I mean the guy is about to go raid Blackbeard's base for his sister even though they know that Kuzan who practically SWAT teamed their home and robbed them.

 

[RaisinRisin]

No need to apologize I wasn't offended or anything I understood what you were saying lol.

Sword itself isn't really a rogue unit it's just there a Black Ops unit / Commandos that's still really just works the Marines. So as I said Kizaru joining would literally be still just be a Marine in there. Sure there's your scenario of Drake trying to have sword rebel against the WG which could or could not happen but that's also hypothetical right now though it does have more of a chance than Kizaru joining Cross Guild lol.

Besides the only real reason why I said anything about Kizaru going Cross Guild was cuz they need some strong members and depending on how all this plays out could be blamed for all of this and leave or be forced out.

I was only apologizing for not being clear, not for some kind of perceived offense. It wasn't clear to me if you followed what I was suggesting about SWORD. It still sounds like you believe I'm not aware of how they operate.

I was speaking about them in terms of how they're set up in the narrative, not in terms of their current role among marines. Of all marine units, I have no doubt at least some of them (potentially most) are going to betray the WG, but I'm not expecting any named marines to betray fellow marines (including Kuzan, who I suspect did quit but is pursuing justice in his own independent way instead of as an admiral).

Long story short, I can't see any currently named marine joining Cross Guild. I can see an unlikely but potentially plausible scenario where Ryokugyuu joins Blackbeard's crew (maybe by throwing Kuzan under the bus, and maybe after being disappointed by Sakazuki), but not Cross Guild for any of them.

Cross Guild I suspect existing bounty hunters might join (Ideo, Abdullah, and Jeet wouldn't join but could go for some bounties). I could also see Revolutionary Army members using bounties for corrupt marines to direct funds to impoverished nations like Belo Betty's group did with Peach(?)beard, but I expect Dragon would frown on further affiliation with Cross Guild.

 

[Fox666]

Besides I think he's a little too much like crocodile to begin with.

Agree. I don't like the idea of the villain of Arabasta working with the villain of Arabasta 2.0

 

[WILDCARD 1 7]

I was only apologizing for not being clear, not for some kind of perceived offense. It wasn't clear to me if you followed what I was suggesting about SWORD. It still sounds like you believe I'm not aware of how they operate.

I was speaking about them in terms of how they're set up in the narrative, not in terms of their current role among marines. Of all marine units, I have no doubt at least some of them (potentially most) are going to betray the WG, but I'm not expecting any named marines to betray fellow marines (including Kuzan, who I suspect did quit but is pursuing justice in his own independent way instead of as an admiral).

Long story short, I can't see any currently named marine joining Cross Guild. I can see an unlikely but potentially plausible scenario where Ryokugyuu joins Blackbeard's crew (maybe by throwing Kuzan under the bus, and maybe after being disappointed by Sakazuki), but not Cross Guild for any of them.

I think where were getting our wires crossed is about Sword it self and how we perceive it. I'm going off of what they are right now versus you who's what we perceived they will be in the future. Is this correct?

Funny you can't see Kizaru join Cross Guilde which I think at least has a a small percent chance of happening( but won't) and I cannot see Ryokugyuu joining Blackbeard even as a spy at all, disappointed with Akainu or not.

 

[RaisinRisin]

Funny you can't see Kizaru join Cross Guilde which I think at least has a a small percent chance of happening( but won't) and I cannot see Ryokugyuu joining Blackbeard even as a spy at all, disappointed with Akainu or not.

Can you explain the hypothetical motivation you see for Kizaru joining Cross Guild? I can't think of one. Something like how if Crocodile and Mihawk back Buggy's fantasy of becoming pirate king, it will be for completely unrelated motives of their own. Croc could try to go for an ancient weapon again; Mihawk could chase the thrill of any dangers involved or might have had something stirred within him by Vegapunk's speech (esp. if he really is a Celestial Dragon as some think) that we'd hear about later.

For further context on my side of it (not expecting to change your mind, but just so anyone interested can get why I think so), by Rokyugyuu's own words he prefers to align himself with the most dominating figures in the world in a might-makes-right kind of scenario. If Blackbeard does get ancient weapons and does get One Piece (which much of the world might now figure out is connected to learning about the war) before Luffy does, I could see his allegiances shifting. But that might also depend on him not knowing how powerful the Gorousei and Holy Knights are and that they seem to have Uranus. I'm sure he's heard rumours, so I'm guessing he'd stay where he was unless Blackbeard's people convince him BB still has more going for him.

 

[WILDCARD 1 7]

Can you explain the hypothetical motivation you see for Kizaru joining Cross Guild? I can't think of one. Something like how if Crocodile and Mihawk back Buggy's fantasy of becoming pirate king, it will be for completely unrelated motives of their own. Croc could try to go for an ancient weapon again; Mihawk could chase the thrill of any dangers involved or might have had something stirred within him by Vegapunk's speech (esp. if he really is a Celestial Dragon as some think) that we'd hear about later.

For further context on my side of it (not expecting to change your mind, but just so anyone interested can get why I think so), by Rokyugyuu's own words he prefers to align himself with the most dominating figures in the world in a might-makes-right kind of scenario. If Blackbeard does get ancient weapons and does get One Piece (which much of the world might now figure out is connected to learning about the war) before Luffy does, I could see his allegiances shifting. But that might also depend on him not knowing how powerful the Gorousei and Holy Knights are and that they seem to have Uranus. I'm sure he's heard rumours, so I'm guessing he'd stay where he was unless Blackbeard's people convince him BB still has more going for him.

Besides the only real reason why I said anything about Kizaru going Cross Guild was cuz they need some strong members and depending on how all this plays out could be blamed for all of this and leave or be forced out.

Well as I said above. This is all dependent on how the fallout of this arc goes.
But say the Gorosei blame all of this on Kizaru, because they are that petty. From there he either quits or fired.
As for Cross guild it's more of a narrative reason of them needing some strong people cuz mihawk. alone is not going to cut it lol. And as Kizaru said in chapter 1089 "he's a corporate slave" and this would be away of keeping him in the narrative.