Chimera Ant Palm Vs Hunters

[XXGenesis]

Location: Grand Stair Case
Distance: 5M
Knowledge: None
Restrictions: None
Palm starts each round 100% vitality

Round1: Killua
Round2: Gon
Round3: Knuckle
Round4: Morel
Round5: Kite

What's your opinion on these fights? Do you think the Hunter or Chimera Ant Palm would win..Give good reasons and logic to support your answer.

 

[Demonspeed]

She is fighting them successively without getting healed?

 

[XXGenesis]

She is fighting them successively without getting healed?

She starts each Round with full health.....100% Vitality.

 

[Demonspeed]

She only wins against Killua, though I don't think she will always win but her chances of are very high.

1.I don't see how he could finish her, Black Widow is kinda OP, he is the better fighter but abusing Kanmuru like against Youpi would be suicidal and even though she can't react, she would still be able to see him with her Wink Blue, it doesn't seem very important but weak attacks can be used in these kind of situations to surprise the opponent. I can see Killua win if he takes his time and try to weaken her progressively, since he has better techniques, Aura mastery, combat experience etc. but it would be very long.

2. She is not winning. Unlike Killua, Gon has more firepower and is a better Enhancer than her, Black Widow is good but a Rock is going to heavily damage her. Rock is not even needed, he can win with just Ryu and Ken.

Knuckle and the two others are too much for her. Hakoware would be very, very effective.

 

[shionoro]

She wins against killuah and gon in my opinion.
While killuah would probably flee in time, gon wouldnt and would lose.

Knucke would probably defeat her if he takes his time and just shoots a hakoware at her.

As for shoot, if he can take her eyes he can win, and he should be able to.

We do not know a lot about how strong kite is but i am positive that he is stronger than her.

 

[XXGenesis]

She only wins against Killua, though I don't think she will always win but her chances of are very high.

1.I don't see how he could finish her, Black Widow is kinda OP, he is the better fighter but abusing Kanmuru like against Youpi would be suicidal and even though she can't react, she would still be able to see him with her Wink Blue, it doesn't seem very important but weak attacks can be used in these kind of situations to surprise the opponent. I can see Killua win if he takes his time and try to weaken her progressively, since he has better techniques, Aura mastery, combat experience etc. but it would be very long.

Likewise, Palm as an Chimera Ant & Enhancer already boost her natural durability, Black Widow provides her with an OP defense Killua can't break and provides an extra offense that Killua can't defend against without injury.

2. She is not winning. Unlike Killua, Gon has more firepower and is a better Enhancer than her, Black Widow is good but a Rock is going to heavily damage her. Rock is not even needed, he can win with just Ryu and Ken.

I beg to differ. What's the difference between Killua's and Gon's durability? Not much except Gon is an enhancer so he'll defend against one better and take less damage...Still I don't see Gon lasting long against such blows similar to Killua who's arms were going numb...JaJanken isn't going to be able to used very easily nor do I think he can charge a 1hit K.O

Knuckle and the two others are too much for her. Hakoware would be very, very effective.

Kite W/O a doubt Deals with her handidly.

& Knuckle I believe he has the stamina and speed to Bankrupt her and Break her with his Nen punches

 

[Machi-tan]

She wins rounds 1-3.

4, open to debate.

She gets floored round 5.

Round 1: Reference the Anime for this.. Kill was outmatched... And the funny part is she wasn't even entirely trying to kill 'him' she was emotionally and mentally conflicted the whole time. If she fought with the pure intent to kill, Kill would be floored.

Round 2: If we're talking Kid Gon. I'd have to say she'd win. Gon is a prodigy no doubt, but if this arc showed us ANYTHING it shows that prodigies on HxH don't work like most shows. He's good. But he's still floored by people who have years of experience over him.

That being said, if her skill level is similar to Knuckles, but she's an enhancer- She'd obviously be a better all round fighter than gon... Base stats + the ant powerup. I mean look at it like this, they were having issues with average joes that were turned into Chimera ants. She was an experienced hunter, turned into an Ant. Her level of experience as a hunter and her mental prowless ? I love gon but I don't see him winning that without a hard wind of luck.

Round 3: Same arguement as before. We know she isn't exactly a fighter (Like Knuckle) but if we compare her to the evolutionary power jump of the other Ants, and if her mind was actually set on killing him, it could turn out nasty. I see how/why Knuckle would be the victor in other arguements but goes to her in my opinion!

Round 4: Power sets are too different to consider. However If Morel was 100%, then he would take it pretty convincingly i would assume

Round 5: Not even sure what kite's exact power scaling would be here... but we know he earned Ging's respect. If he didn't get blind sided by Pitou, he might've put up one hell of a fight. Anyone that can fight a RG 1v1 is a champ, so Kite wins.

 

[tupadre97]

Ant palm handily beats killua and gon they just aren't good enough to handle black widow. Palm vs knuckle could go either way really depends on whether or not she can handle apr. Palm vs morel palm wins everytime. Her wink blue would allow he to know where the real morel is at all times and his clones aren't strong enough to defeat her in black widow. In order for morel to win he have to somehow trap her and whittle her down which simply wouldn't happen because she'd just attack him directly since she knows where he is at all times and his clones can't really slow her down. Palm vs Kite, Kite wins everytime. The few options we've seeing from crazy slots alone are enough to handle palm and the others we haven't seen would probably also be very good against her. So she stops at kite definitely.

 

[kkck]

I would think palm has comfortable victories at least against killua and gon. Palm already showed she was a superior fighting to killua. He has kammuru left but its a one shot trick and if he does not finish her off then he is drained of nen. Considering that black widow is meant to take care of defense while she focuses on offense then perhaps actually setting up a defense would be enough to take whatever killua can throw at her. Even then, there is no guarantee killua's attacks would do the trick. Overall the only thing we can reasonably argue is that palm is the more competent fighter. Supposedly she was dangerous even before her transformation.

Against gon, she wins easily. There is no scenario where palm isn't a better fighter to begin with. She is supposed to be a competent fighter and has years worth of nen training under her belt. In turn gon still telegraphs his attacks through his awkward nen flow. So you would have gon's awkward nen flow against a black window palm who does not even need to worry about that seeing that she has an effective armor. This is an enhancer battle where gon would be lucky to have at least the short end of the stick. Palm has the stick and will beat gon to death with it.

Against the others the situation is more complicated. I think she would win against knuckle. Knuckle relies on hitting the enemy more than it hits him. However against black widow he should have trouble giving more than he receives. Her attacks would be immensely powerful in comparison to someone who has to do the while guard thing. In any scenario, winning against black widow in a straight fight should be extremely complicated for most fighters, the advantages it gives are too insane at least as explained in the manga. Knuckle would have to punch her and then keep her at bay to win which should be very difficult considering everything.

Morel would perhaps have a chance. He has a perfect nen to avoid a straight confrontation with her. He can do it provided he is smart and keeps his distance.

Kite is an interesting case. I guess it depends on what his weapons can do....