Discussion Coby official thread

[kkck]

Coby is special, I don't see how anyone could deny that. The very FACT that he awakened haki without having years of training behind him and experience is a sign of how absurdly exceptional he is. At the very least luffy had spent his entire childhood suffering garp's insane trainings. Coby spent 6 months with garp and awakened the ability. Coby eventually reaching the admiral position is not a long shot IMO, he has more than shown he has the sheer talent for such a feat and his growth rate also suggests he is talented.

 

[darkprince0521]

Coby is special, I don't see how anyone could deny that. The very FACT that he awakened haki without having years of training behind him and experience is a sign of how absurdly exceptional he is. At the very least luffy had spent his entire childhood suffering garp's insane trainings. Coby spent 6 months with garp and awakened the ability. Coby eventually reaching the admiral position is not a long shot IMO, he has more than shown he has the sheer talent for such a feat and his growth rate also suggests he is talented.

i don't think Conquerers Haki is something that can be developed over time, it is already decided from birth. that's what i think.

he is talented, that much is true, or might be true. he will have great control over Haki that might be true as well. but i don't think we will see so many characters with Conquerers Haki. then it will loose the importance as something big.

 

[scav]

i don't think Conquerers Haki is something that can be developed over time, it is already decided from birth. that's what i think.

he is talented, that much is true, or might be true. he will have great control over Haki that might be true as well. but i don't think we will see so many characters with Conquerers Haki. then it will loose the importance as something big.

how you go from "Coby having CoC" to "many characters with COC"?Coby isn't many he's a single guy and if Coby have the CoC atm he will be the only one marine with that ( garp already left the marine).That will make him someone very famous in the marine.

 

[kkck]

i don't think Conquerers Haki is something that can be developed over time, it is already decided from birth. that's what i think.

he is talented, that much is true, or might be true. he will have great control over Haki that might be true as well. but i don't think we will see so many characters with Conquerers Haki. then it will loose the importance as something big.

I was not talking about the conqueror's haki at all. The manga did say that conqueror's haki is not something which can be acquired or strengthen through training.

 

[Jorge D. Dragon]

kkck
I can't see the posibility of Coby being a match for Luffy. At the end of the story he can be a significant Marine, but no way a match for Luffy. Even before the time-skip the difference between them was tremendous. Luffy took out Rob Lucci (the real combat genious who had great experience in assasination had tremendous level of Rokushiki that was the greatest in CP9 history and had great control of a DF that suited well to his Rokushiki style), Crocodile and Moria. He also defeated Boa's sisters who were very profisiient in terms of Haki (maybe even more than the majority of Vice Admirals, cause we know that on Amazon Lily people are taught since the childhood), then he went to Impel Down (and don't forget that he trashed Ennies Lobby) and got away (he was only the second in history who did it). Then he got to Marineford and fought quite well (especially taking in account his health, cause he was moving just because of his strong will and with the help of Kuma's hormones).
Also about learning... Luffy was clearly the man who learned faster than it is posible. He learned Soru right from the spot when he fought Bruno on the top of the Tower of Justice.
Also after the time-skip Luffy grew tremmendously. He got way stronger. Before the time-skip all the crew could take down only one Pacifista, but after the time-skip Luffy trashed it with one punch. Even Rayleigh said that he didn't expect Luffy to grow that strong and even Luffy's crew was shocked of his new strength and we barely saw him using his new moves. He took down Kraken with one punch and the Kraken was several times bigger than Sunny.

P.S. I don't understimate Coby or underrate him, but I just see the reality. It was stated in manga that Luffy surely is the leader of new Age and the strongest in the new generation. He surely is a prodigy and has tremendous Haki. His only problem is his dumbness. People overrate Coby too much. If he wants to be at Admiral's level he needs to have DF, cause the only one who was at that level and didn't have it was Garp, but he is surely an exeption. We saw that even old Whitebeard, who was weakened by an illness and his age could take more than one Admiral at a time, so syrely when Luffy will become Pirate King he must surpass WB (I think it's common logic) and should take three Admirals at a time, so no way Coby can be at his Level, cause surely Luffy has a bigger level of growth during the manga.

 

[Dekker]

We saw that even old Whitebeard, who was weakened by an illness and his age could take more than one Admiral at a time, so syrely when Luffy will become Pirate King he must surpass WB (I think it's common logic) and should take three Admirals at a time, so no way Coby can be at his Level, cause surely Luffy has a bigger level of growth during the manga.

Nope we did not. He never fought two or three at once. That wouldve been overkill. You are underating the admirals quite a bit. Whitebeared was not even able to bring one Admiral close to defeat. Yeah Akainu got quite some hit when Whitebeared was pissed, but Akainus problem was not being down for the count but falling down a cliff he could not jump up again. He had to melt his way out.

Coby growing a lot to be a match for Luffy is not really that far off considering his growth until now. Luffy trained years together with Ace and Sabo, while Coby was abused by Alvida and her crew and only had a few months for training. Just wait for it.

 

[Soka]

As we all know Garp and Sengoku retired from active marine service and wanted to concentrate on training youngsters.

If Corby and Helmeppo had trained under Sengoku and Garp for two years, like Ruffy did under Rayleigh I cant see a reason why they couldnt catch up to Luffy.Especially as its already decided in some way because its Corbys dream and Oda does not draw a manga where dreams of people like Corby are crushed

Additionally its Garps duty to raise a Marine that could fight his grandson and Garp is very certain of Ruff strenght and determination

 

[kkck]

^Well, the result of garp's training has already been proven. Six months worth of his training made coby have such an overwhelming change even his physical appearance changed.... And yeah, his training should be comparable to something Rayleigh could give. I do think that the idea of coby catching up to luffy is a bit out there though. Luffy had 17 years worth of training ahead of coby, that is not something negligible. Coby could advance quite a bit over these two years, heck he should even be capable of giving lucci the fodder treatment if there is any justice in the manga but catching up to luffy is something entirely different. Luffy right now is in a league of his own, he should be strong enough to actually hold his ground against shichibukai and even to not get one shotted by admirals or people who basically stand at the top of the world. Coby is without a shred of a doubt an absolute beast by now but I would question whether he caught up to luffy. I am not saying luffy would necessarily one shot coby as before but overall there should be a reasonably big difference.