Discussion Could Zeldris beat Escanor?

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The recent chapter shows that pre-one Escanor is not even on the same stratosphere as the 4 Highest Demons, & Zeldris especially would've eaten 3 high-class opponents working together (Ludo, Merlin & pre-one Escanor) alive, with little dificulty at that. The story may not change even with one Escanor & they may just be saved by the bell (like how Itachi saved the Gokages from Madara's Susanoo just on time by undoing Kabuto's jutsu) though we shall see.

Anyway:
4 Highest Demons > 4 ArchAngels

Wrath > Sun
Executioner > Flash
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The Meliodas when he fought Escanor is way weaker than the Meliodas that fought Zeldris. I'm pretty sure that Zeldris would've won against the unawakened AM Meliodas.
He was awakened. Unless Merlin was lying for no season. She said that the Mel that fought Escanor was equal to the Mel who was Leader of the 10 commandments. The is the very same Mel who stalemated Sunshine and drove Mael off. Just look at his white garbs. They're the same. Also, his demeanor/personality is consistent with chapter 331+ Mel.
 
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The The recent chapter proved that Zeldris, and I would say even the masters can defeat Escanor at 11:59 AM. Zeldris was clearly stronger and Escanor's Prominence Burn didn't really overwhelm the masters. I didn't think he was that close to his peak.

Can he beat The One with his current feats? No. If their memories of Mael had returned I would have bet on a Zeldris's transformation but it's not the case. We know the two of them will be fine.
He'll likely somehow withstand it or the masters intervene.
 

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He was awakened. Unless Merlin was lying for no season. She said that the Mel that fought Escanor was equal to the Mel who was Leader of the 10 commandments. The is the very same Mel who stalemated Sunshine and drove Mael off. Just look at his white garbs. They're the same. Also, his demeanor/personality is consistent with chapter 331+ Mel.
Zeldris is taking Flash and Ark attacks from a 201,000 PL Ludociel without a scratch, but he claimed that Meliodas' magic was so great that not even the DK's magic could suppress it. The Meliodas that fought him can't have been at 142,000.
 

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Merlin says lot of contradictory statements so she should not be taken 100% accurate.
 

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Zeldris is taking Flash and Ark attacks from a 201,000 PL Ludociel without a scratch, but he claimed that Meliodas' magic was so great that not even the DK's magic could suppress it. The Meliodas that fought him can't have been at 142,000.
Maybe deep down Zeldris can't bring hismelf to go all out against Meliodas and Meliodas can go all out against Zeldris.
 

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If its the one, I'd say there is no chance of zeldris winning. The one is virtually invulnerable. Not to mention that it having so much raw physical power puts zeldris at a disadvantage.

As for pre noon, at first I thought zeldris would take it but I actually think he might be able to pull it off. Of course, that also depends on how the one performs next chapter.

Anyways, what makes me think pre noon escanor has a chance is the fact that escanor has been able to defend himself from zeldris' ability while ludo and merlin haven't. And this is considering ludociel clocks at twice as pre non escanor.

So my takeaways are:

1.- Ludociel clocking at 201k probably suggests he simply can't perform as well as he could otherwise while in a frail human body. He probably isn't even abusing flash as much as he could so as to take care of margaret. Not out of actual concern of margaret of course but rather because without margaret he'd only have one spare fleshbag and an inferior one at that.

2.- Merlin has also struggled with zeldris' ability. She has countered only with fast paced teleportation.

4.- Escanor in spite of his lower pl than ludo has been able to resist zeldris' pull and push on his own. So how is escanor different from ludociel or merlin? Ludociel most likely is a magic user and merlin we know for a fact is. In other words, escanor is very well equipped to fight zeldris in general simply because the bulk of his power is strength. The only reason escanor even took a hit from zeldris is due to protecting merlin.

5.- To add to the previous point, zeldris has a sort of immunity to magic. Which means at least most of what ludociel or merlin could do here is meaningless perhaps even in spite of PL.

So how does this all play out? Escanor could resist the nebula even before the one. He resisted it, with trouble, even after zeldris transformed. And could even take a hit for merlin. Basically, escanor is very well equipped to take on zeldris. He can resist even the strongest nebula pulls and pushes and zeldris can't turn him to confetti even if he does get pulled. Otherwise escanor would already be dead.

Also, escanor before noon most certainly clocks higher than zeldris with his advance demon mark. And even then, there is no way zeldris hits harder than AM meliodas as we last saw him. Which is significant considering AM mel's sword got stuck in escanor. It would take some effort but its not impossible for escanor to jump in and be able to land a couple hits on zeldris while he is using the nebula.

Anyways, this might change if zeldris has some manner of counter against physical attacks. If he does then he just might outlast the one.
 

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Zeldris is taking Flash and Ark attacks from a 201,000 PL Ludociel without a scratch, but he claimed that Meliodas' magic was so great that not even the DK's magic could suppress it. The Meliodas that fought him can't have been at 142,000.
No, the Mel that Esacnor was 142k.
 

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Guess we know now~
Well, that was obvious from the start lol.

The only difference is that I expected an one shot but it seems that Zeldoris did far better than we originally thought.
 

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Yes it was!

Now dont say,
B-but zel = Bruised him!
pfft!
He struggled to break his ON and didn't defeat him at all.

Hence why it wasn't a stomp, learn what stomp actually means.
 

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He struggled to break his ON and didn't defeat him at all.

Hence why it wasn't a stomp, learn what stomp actually means.
OMG!
Now you've done it!

So,
Esca =/= Beat zel
But,
Chandled = Beat esca!

Troll = over 9000!


Esca
Atk 1 = Deflected
Atk 2 = ON (Down)
Atk 3 = Penetrated

Yes its = Stomp
 

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OMG!
Now you've done it!

So,
Esca =/= Beat zel
But,
Chandled = Beat esca!

Troll = over 9000!


Esca
Atk 1 = Deflected
Atk 2 = ON (Down)
Atk 3 = Penetrated

Yes its = Stomp
Yes, it didn't beat him, he was still on the game lol.

Chandler made him into his Night form, which he is beyond useless like that.

Like I said, learn what stomp actually means.
 

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Yes, it didn't beat him, he was still on the game lol.

Chandler made him into his Night form, which he is beyond useless like that.

Like I said, learn what stomp actually means.
Lol!
Stomped!
pfft..
 
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