Crazy Theories and Predictions

[hokageji]

Roger as the Rabbit.

Well said.... I still doubt the plausibility of it, but it does sound like a good theory nevertheless..

 

[Monkey D. Bufford]

Well said.... I still doubt the plausibility of it, but it does sound like a good theory nevertheless..

It's not a theory to be honest, it's just a simple opinion about this D. Bloodline.

 

[Monkey D. Bufford]

As we all know the fact, Oda-san has mostly inspired by Dragon Ball series. But on the other hand, I'm here to prove that why did he also inspired by Hokutou no Ken in this little discovery!!

1. SHIN SAGA

Spade​

Spade was the 1st man in the series who's died in the beginning of the series. And his death was inspired Portgas D. Ace's death too, because Oda was actually planned his death from the beginning. And it's no surprising that Ace's 1st crew called the Spade Pirates. IRONIC.

Portgas D. Ace.​

And not to mention about that the commanders of Shin were also based on Cards like:

• King
• Club
• Diamond
• Heart
• Joker
• Balcom
• Dragon
• Patra
• Dante
• Zaria
• Wolf
• Gorath
• Garekki
• Mahari
• Hydra
• Toda
• Nariman
• And so forth!

Just the way like Kaidou's Calamities.

2. KAIDOU & DEVIL REBIRTH

Kaidou

Devil Rebirth​

Kaidou was a pirate, who tasted the defeat 7 times. He was captured 18 times and survived tortures 10,000 times. He's sentenced to death 40 times. The rope was snapped on him, the guillotine blade was mysteriously broken into pieces and the spears were broken while he was stabbed. And he's destroyed 9 Prison ships and Man-o-Wars. And Devil Rebirth was inspired Oda to make Kaidou the world's strongest creature! Because:

Devil Rebirth, A giant, ogre-ish man who uses the ancient Indian martial art Rakan Niō Ken (Fist of the Arhat Deva King), also known as the personification of Satan. He was convicted of killing 700 people with a single use of his fighting style, and was executed 13 times for his crimes. He survived all of his executions and was finally sentenced to 200 years (500 in the anime) in Villainy Prison. In order to defeat Kenshiro, Jackal tames him by using a picture of his mother (that he stole from him while serving time in the same prison) and convincing Devil that they're lost brothers. Kenshiro fights him, proclaiming that Hokuto Shinken is the Rebirth of Indra (闘神(インドラ)の化身(リバース)) and kills him by striking his vital points in the shape of the Big Dipper.

3. IMPEL DOWN AND CASSANDRA

Cassandra​

Known as the City of Wailing Demons, this mighty prison belonged to Ken-Oh and was under the jurisdiction of the cruel warden, Uighur. Cassandra was used to imprison martial artists who had forfeited their ancient scrolls to Ken-Oh in his goal to create the ultimate martial art. It was also the prison for Raoh's brother, Toki, who Raoh incarcerated as a threat to his conquest.

Impel Down​

Impel Down, also known as the Underwater Prison (海底監獄 Kaitei Kangoku) or the Great Prison (大監獄 Dai Kangoku), is a government-controlled stronghold in Paradise together with Marine Headquarters and Enies Lobby. It is the World Government's maximum-security prison for the most dangerous criminals and pirates. It is located underwater in the middle of the Calm Belt.

And both of these places were been the main point of freeing the brothers of the two protagonists.

4. RAOH & BLACKBEARD

Raoh

Marshall D. Teach aka Blackbeard.​

If you have seen the Hokutou no Ken you must know that Raoh was a passionate collector of other lethal Martial arts, the same way as Blackbeard is about other mysterious Devil Fruits. Not to mention about Both of them has "killed" the brother of the protagonists. While Toki has fought with Raoh, Blackbeard has captured and given Ace to the Marines and made him executed by them.

After Kenshirou has fought with Raoh, Raoh's death was the same as Whitebeard, where he was died while his corpse has still remained standing.

Raoh's death

Whitebeard's death​

And about the timeskip, which will be 10 years after Raftel, because Kenshirou has suffered a bittersweet victory, such as the love of his life, Yuria has suffered in an incurable & mysterious fatal disease. So Raoh has given his blessings to them by giving 1 year to Yuria by pressing one of her power points. So that's a reference to Hancock's love disease and also for Roger's mysterious disease. But she's not going to die as we all know that, because she's going to have a huge role in the final. BUT THAT'S ANOTHER STORY.

And in One Piece, Luffy's bittersweet victory will be, after he killed Blackbeard by Gear 5th, that he's released it for the very first time due to the fact, that Teach will have had the desire to kill Luffy's friends, Jinbei has sacrificed himself in front of Luffy, while he'll have been unable to fight due to the current gear forms that he will have used against Blackbeard on Raftel.
So after Luffy's beheaded Teach by Gear 5th, he will get into a 22-hour-coma and after he will wake up for a living nightmare: His friends are killing off each other, that Luffy doesn't really know the reason of it. And he's trying to stop them, but the others are just pushing him away, and in his final desperation, Luffy will have no choice, whereas to disband the crew forever.

5. THE SIMILARITIES BETWEEN THE HOKUTOU ARMY AND THE REVOLUTIONARY ARMY AND A 10-YEAR-TIMESKIP

If there's anybody, who's watched Hokutou no Ken 2 anime series, or readen the manga, then it's pretty obvious that 10 years has passed, since Kenshirou left Rin & Bat.

And during the time, Rin & Bat have become "criminals" like Sabo and Koala.

Revolutionary Army

Hokutou Army​

Both of these groups are fighting for one goal: Dominating over a tyrant superpower. And then when Rin & Bat met with Kenshirou, they have broken down into tears. So this is why I know that Luffy and the crew will meet again after 10 years but their meeting will be the most emotional, touching and heartbreakingly beautiful scene in the history of One Piece. BTW, One Piece is going to end in 2027 and NOT in 2024. just saying.

6. TENTEI & WORLD GOVERNMENT:

Tentei

World Government​

Tentei is working the same way as the World Government does, because if you'd seen that scene, where normal people have moved those funiculars or those escalators. It was the same in Hokuto No Ken 2, where slaves needed to control the power service of the entire palace. So that means, it's going to be almost the same as it was in Hokuto no Ken, BUT NOT EXACTLY!!



So in conclusion:

OMAE WA MOU... SHINDEIRU.

​

 

[McNuss]

I am not really familiar with Fist of the North Star, but I know that it's huge so It could very well have inspired One Piece.

However you drift away into fanfiction again so it's not even mildly interesting to read.

It reads like this:

"Hey you know that Luffy is inspired by Sun Wukong that's why Sanji will kill Gekko Moria's mother who will be super important. Then Chopper will kill Blackbeard but Luffy will die but that's another story. I know I have foreseen it."

You know we can't mindread you. So judging by the way you write it, you must be aware that we can't possibly recognize it as a serious theory attempt.

Everybody will kill each other? Seriously?

Sorry but you are wasting time. The time of your readers who want to discover something, and the time of yourself since you actually seem knowledgeable and could be very much capable of actually finding something out.

 

[Monkey D. Bufford]

I am not really familiar with Fist of the North Star, but I know that it's huge so It could very well have inspired One Piece.

However you drift away into fanfiction again so it's not even mildly interesting to read.

It reads like this:

"Hey you know that Luffy is inspired by Sun Wukong that's why Sanji will kill Gekko Moria's mother who will be super important. Then Chopper will kill Blackbeard but Luffy will die but that's another story. I know I have foreseen it."

You know we can't mindread you. So judging by the way you write it, you must be aware that we can't possibly recognize it as a serious theory attempt.

Everybody will kill each other? Seriously?

Sorry but you are wasting time. The time of your readers who want to discover something, and the time of yourself since you actually seem knowledgeable and could be very much capable of actually finding something out.

It's not a fanfiction at all. Because you don't know what happens on Raftel. But I do.
And again. It's not a theory either. It's just a comparision. Because I have watched Hokuto No Ken and I can compare all of the elements that I have seen.

 

[McNuss]

It's not a fanfiction at all. Because you don't know what happens on Raftel. But I do.
And again. It's not a theory either. It's just a comparision. Because I have watched Hokuto No Ken and I can compare all of the elements that I have seen.

You don't know what happens on Laugh Tale. It is getting ridiculous, such big claims yet such little to back it up. You can't see the future.

Listen, I know how that feels when you read all that stuff about the Sun, the Moon and the stars and how everything is moving in circles but end of the day it's not real.

You won't get any superpowers from believing that you have them.

Sooner or later you will be disappointed that way. You have to be open about possibilities.

Also the Ace of Spades represents death. It doesn't really have to be a Hokuto no Ken reference.

Same as the death while standing. That is based on the legend of Benkei.

Revolutionary armies appear in a lot of media, including real history. The references behind the revolutionaries are mostly western though, so I don't really see how it connects to the that army in Fist of the North Star.

This threads spark zero discussion since your final argument is always that you have seen the future.

 

[Monkey D. Bufford]

You don't know what happens on Laugh Tale. It is getting ridiculous, such big claims yet such little to back it up. You can't see the future.

Listen, I know how that feels when you read all that stuff about the Sun, the Moon and the stars and how everything is moving in circles but end of the day it's not real.

You won't get any superpowers from believing that you have them.

Sooner or later you will be disappointed that way. You have to be open about possibilities.

Also the Ace of Spades represents death. It doesn't really have to be a Hokuto no Ken reference.

Same as the death while standing. That is based on the legend of Benkei.

Revolutionary armies appear in a lot of media, including real history. The references behind the revolutionaries are mostly western though, so I don't really see how it connects to the that army in Fist of the North Star.

This threads spark zero discussion since your final argument is always that you have seen the future.

I don't believe. Because believing is for the weak, and knowledge is for the strong. And I do have the ability to see in the future. And the Ace of Spade was indeed a reference for Hokuto no Ken!

And I won't be disappointed. Because I have foreseen Raftel arc, since I can really see in the future and I can even tell yours. But I know you're just going to be bullshitting me again.

But first, I recommend you to watch the entire series and you will realize it one day, before you'd make any judgement.

 

[McNuss]

I am not bullshiting you.

You are telling me, with full confidence, that you can see the future.

What kind of reaction did you expect from such a statement? How can we discuss anything if you insist that it's all based on your "prophecy"?

 

[Monkey D. Bufford]

I am not bullshiting you.

You are telling me, with full confidence, that you can see the future.

What kind of reaction did you expect from such a statement? How can we discuss anything if you insist that it's all based on your "prophecy"?

Yes, I can really tell the future. Because I have a huge experience behind my back. And I used to have visions. real future visions, but I don't want to brag with that. It's not my habit.

But I have just come up with a topic that might interest anybody. This One Piece x HNK similarities is a really awesome comparision.

 

[McNuss]

But your argumentation is like this:

You: "Ace is based on Spade from Hokuto no Ken because because he died and his crew is named Spade"

Me: "But the Ace of Spade already references death in general" - implying that both characters are simply inspired by the card.

You: "Ace is really a Hokuto no Ken reference! "

You don't bring up any further arguments. Where are your other arguments other than "I have seen the future"?

 

[Monkey D. Bufford]

But your argumentation is like this:

You: "Ace is based on Spade from Hokuto no Ken because because he died and his crew is named Spade"

Me: "But the Ace of Spade already references death in general" - implying that both characters are simply inspired by the card.

You: "Ace is really a Hokuto no Ken reference! "

You don't bring up any further arguments. Where are your other arguments other than "I have seen the future"?

It seems you don't really understand. I just directly compared Ace to Spade, because Spade is died from the very beginning of HnK. Ace has died During the Paramount war and in addition, Oda has planned his death from the very 1st episode. So Ace would be dead already, but his editor has spoken him down. So this is what I'm trying to tell.

But again. Watch Hokutou No Ken and catch me later.

 

[McNuss]

It seems you don't really understand. I just directly compared Ace to Spade, because Spade is died from the very beginning of HnK. Ace has died During the Paramount war and in addition, Oda has planned his death from the very 1st episode. So Ace would be dead already, but his editor has spoken him down. So this is what I'm trying to tell.

But again. Watch Hokutou No Ken and catch me later.

That is not what was meant by "Oda planned Ace's death from the beginning". He was always supposed to die in the paramount war and there was no editor involvement into his death. Ace was at no point supposed to die in the first episode.

 

[Monkey D. Bufford]

That is not what was meant by "Oda planned Ace's death from the beginning". He was always supposed to die in the paramount war and there was no editor involvement into his death. Ace was at no point supposed to die in the first episode.

Yes it was for a request by an editor of Oda. Because Oda planned Ace to die from the very first chapter.

 

[McNuss]

Yes it was for a request by an editor of Oda. Because Oda planned Ace to die from the very first chapter.

No. You got that wrong. Just like you got your Game Of Thrones reference wrong in your post about the D. Clan. Which is why your theories, in combination with your claims about "future sight", don't seem very credible.

We now got 4 pages of your gibberish in the theory thread. Everyone who clicks on the thread currently will now think it is a shitpost thread.

 

[Monkey D. Bufford]

No. You got that wrong. Just like you got your Game Of Thrones reference wrong in your post about the D. Clan. Which is why your theories, in combination with your claims about "future sight", don't seem very credible.

We now got 4 pages of your gibberish in the theory thread. Everyone who clicks on the thread currently will now think it is a shitpost thread.

My future sight does seem very credible. And the D. Clan = Targaryens seems right. Because I have never seen any D. Clan member getting together with a non D. Clan member (See: Roger and Rouge) because only D. With D. Can marry each other to keep the cleanliness of their bloodlines.
But the problem is, they are just putting this shit into the Theories thread. Which is making me annoyed.

So it's not a shit post at all.

 

[McNuss]

My future sight does seem very credible. And the D. Clan = Targaryens seems right. Because I have never seen any D. Clan member getting together with a non D. Clan member (See: Roger and Rouge) because only D. With D. Can marry each other to keep the cleanliness of their bloodlines.
But the problem is, they are just putting this shit into the Theories thread. Which is making me annoyed.

So it's not a shit post at all.

First of all, the Targaryens have married outside of their bloodline PLENTY of times.

Check this out : https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/House_Targaryen#Historical_Members

There are plenty of Targaryens that married other houses. I already explained how you got this wrong but you simply ignored it.

Rhaego was a stillborn because he was sacrificed by Mirri Maz Duur in a blood magic ritual. Only death can pay for life.

Had absolutely nothing to do with incompatible blood.

On the other hand there is only one known D. Couple, which is Roger x Rogue.
Garp's and Dragon's wives are unknown, all others are single.
Except for Law's parents but they are unnamed and only the father is a confirmed D.

See, your comparison fails on both ends.

Your threads get moved since they are pointless since you can't be discussed with. The moderators are probably just as annoyed from your threads as you are from them getting moved.

 

[Monkey D. Bufford]

Obviously y'all know, what grinds behind my gears. Because it's pretty strange to see a hybrid giant girl on Amazon Lily and some of them wearing Viking Helmets!!
But I'm here to tell about some information about Hancock's real name and her seriously dark past.
First of all... She's from ELBAF.

Why? Because in Dragon Ball series Goku has met Ox King who had a daughter, CHI CHI.
And Chi Chi means hornless dragon in chinese. Which is a SNAKE.
So Goku was the monkey and Chi Chi was the snake. And Chi Chi has fallen in love with Goku the way like Hancock did with Luffy. But that's another story.

Ox King (With his daughter, Chi Chi)​

So Hancock's real name is not Boa Hancock, her real name is:

ROCKS D. HANCOCK.​

Because her father was a giant and he's married to a Mermaid princess, who was the close relative of Queen Otohime. No wonder, why Sheelahosh's beauty competes with Hancock's beauty. Because Hancock and Sheelahosh are cousins!

Princess Sheelahosh

Rocks D. Hancock​

Since Medusa's mother was a mermaid originally.

About Medusa as an inspiration:


In Greek mythology, Medusa (/mɪˈdjuːzə, -sə/; Μέδουσα "guardian, protectress") was a monster, a Gorgon, generally described as a winged human female with living venomous snakes in place of hair. Those who gazed upon her face would turn to stone. Most sources describe her as the daughter of Phorcys and Ceto. Though the author Hyginus makes her the daughter of Gorgon and Ceto. According to Hesiod and Aeschylus, she lived and died on an island named Sarpedon, somewhere near Cisthene. The 2nd-century BCE novelist Dionysios Skytobrachion puts her somewhere in Libya, where Herodotus had said the Berbers originated her myth, as part of their religion.

Medusa was beheaded by the hero Perseus, who thereafter used her head, which retained its ability to turn onlookers to stone, as a weapon until he gave it to the goddess Athena to place on her shield. In classical antiquity the image of the head of Medusa appeared in the evil-averting device known as the Gorgoneion.

Phorcys was a sea god. And we all know that the D. means the will of GOD. Since DEUS is the latin meaning of GOD.

So the mother of Hancock could have been Rocks D. Freya who was the Goddess of Beauty & Love in the Northern Mithology.
As we know that she was around 5-6 years old when she's lost her parents due to her Father's Piracy past. Because her father's name was ROCKS D. BUFFORD who was a legendary infamous Pirate Captain of the Giant Pirates and People was often nicknamed him as "JÖRMUNGANDR" the World Snake (Due to the Gomu Gomu no Mi's shape-shifting ability, he can be able to turn into anything!)

"Plastic Man" turns into a snake - No wonder, why Bufford could have been able to do this - Turning into a giant snake with the "(Gear 4th - Snake Man)" and his malleabilities.

JÖRMUNGANDR​

JÖRMUNGANDR the World Snake (Biological father of Hancock and the son of Loki, King of the Giants)

In Norse mythology, Jörmungandr (Old Norse: Jǫrmungandr, pronounced [ˈjɔrmunˌɡandr̥], meaning "huge monster"), also known as the Midgard (World) Serpent (Old Norse: Miðgarðsormr), is a sea serpent, the middle child of the giantess Angrboða and Loki. According to the Prose Edda, Odin took Loki's three children by Angrboða—the wolf Fenrir, Hel, and Jörmungandr—and tossed Jörmungandr into the great ocean that encircles Midgard. The serpent grew so large that it was able to surround the earth and grasp its own tail. As a result, it received the name of the Midgard Serpent or World Serpent. When it releases its tail, Ragnarök will begin. Jörmungandr's arch-enemy is the thunder-god, Thor. It is an example of an ouroboros.

And this is why Hancock knows Rayleigh well, because He and Roger were a close friend of JÖRMUNGANDR, and JÖRMUNGANDR was the previous user of the Gomu Gomu no Mi.

Gomu Gomu no Mi​

And when Akainu has hunted for him he's found him and his family with the 3 daughters (Hancock's sisters were just babies then and she's barely remembers to anything back from Elbaf).
Bufford told them to run. But when he saw his wife, Freya being beheaded by Sakazuki, he's went Gear 5th, but due to the overdose of the Gomu Gomu no Mi, he has passed away.

But luckily the safe of his children made a smile on his face who will carry the will of D. Further. No wonder why did Shanks find this fruit and it has been eaten by Monkey D. Luffy himself.

Which is explaining that, why Hancock and her sisters are on Amazon Lily.

 

[Sachsenhesse]

Well i would rock Hancock too.

 

[kazekaze_yuki]

Is this theory or from Oda?

 

[Monkey D. Bufford]

Is this theory or from Oda?

It's not a theory. It's an analysis.