Conditional CSK vs Etherious Marde

[Alvarez Princess]

Both are in their primes.
Both get reasonable hype for either supporting argument
Both are bloodlusted
Both have no intel
Neither can use regeneration/immortality

Starting distance: About let's say 65 metres
Location: Where they fought in Tartaros arc.

CSK can use his own magic power and isn't reliant on just Lucy's.

 

[Summer]

Even if he is not under Lucy power.... the feats that he have shown is all under Lucy power lol . What the different?

Well this pretty much goes to csk.... galaxia blade plus meteor blade..... KO

 

[Alvarez Princess]

Yes, all of CSK's feats are under Lucy's magical power plus his own, that's why I said "reasonable hype"'. Since CSK by his own power should be stronger than the one who fought Marde.

 

[Arjuna]

If CSK uses his own power then Etherious Mard wins this fight.If he fights under current Lucy's power then CSK wins.

 

[Dranzer]

IMO although the CSK is strong and all, and he seemed to have the upper hand on Mard Geer last time, he only had the upper hand because Mard wasn't in Etherious form, and I feel like if he was, the CSK wouldn't be able to beat him.
Mard > CSK (Medium-High Difficulty at most)

 

[Summer]

IMO although the CSK is strong and all, and he seemed to have the upper hand on Mard Geer last time, he only had the upper hand because Mard wasn't in Etherious form, and I feel like if he was, the CSK wouldn't be able to beat him.
Mard > CSK (Medium-High Difficulty at most)

How so? Mard was just waiting for Lucy to runs out of mp at the time... he knew he can't defeat csk and his attack does not work on the csk . That's why he keep dodging csk attack..... did you even see mard face when he thought that galaxia blade was full frontal attack? He is scare asf lol .

Csk could turn mard into stone and crash him.... therefore csk is the winner here.

 

[Char]

Spirits grow stronger depending on the MP of the summoner. That is to say, they're limited by the MP of the summoner.

Lucy wasn't very strong back in Tartaros. Besides she was already tired so the MP she had left allowed for a CSK that still had immense DC and quite amazing feats overall, except for speed.

I suspect if Lucy were to invoke him now in Alvarez, he'd be a threat for spriggan-level characters (therefore, current CSK would be >>> Mard Geer).

I believe that unrestrained CSK should be fairly superior to average spriggan level.

So, IMO, prime CSK >>>>> Mard Geer.

 

[Dranzer]

How so? Mard was just waiting for Lucy to runs out of mp at the time... he knew he can't defeat csk and his attack does not work on the csk . That's why he keep dodging csk attack..... did you even see mard face when he thought that galaxia blade was full frontal attack? He is scare asf lol .

Csk could turn mard into stone and crash him.... therefore csk is the winner here.

But in all of this Mard was in his base form and we saw from the fights with the Twin Dragons, Gray and Natsu, that Mard's base form is a fair deal weaker than his Etherious form. Not to mention that the CSK has no way of blocking Memento Mori.

 

[Summer]

But in all of this Mard was in his base form and we saw from the fights with the Twin Dragons, Gray and Natsu, that Mard's base form is a fair deal weaker than his Etherious form. Not to mention that the CSK has no way of blocking Memento Mori.

Csk can cast galaxia blade before mard geer cast memento mori ....and even if he they cast it at the same times , I don't think that memento mori is capable of following csk to the outer space lol . And you need to realize that galaxia blade can dispell memento mori .

 

[Dranzer]

Csk can cast galaxia blade before mard geer cast memento mori ....and even if he they cast it at the same times , I don't think that memento mori is capable of following csk to the outer space lol . And you need to realize that galaxia blade can dispell memento mori .

How does Galaxia blade dispel Memento Mori? In my honest opinion I don't really think it can, and Memento Mori doesn't need to follow the CSK through space, from my memory it opens a worm hole to space, it doesn't have the CSK actually travelling through space.

 

[Summer]

How does Galaxia blade dispel Memento Mori? In my honest opinion I don't really think it can, and Memento Mori doesn't need to follow the CSK through space, from my memory it opens a worm hole to space, it doesn't have the CSK actually travelling through space.

Galaxia blade can dispell anything that the caster conceive as darkness( if I'm jot wrong).... galaxia blade dispell alegeria curse and save everyone from that sticky things .

Yeah... but csk is big and he is flying.... up in the sky.... can memento mori suck csk or gets any bigger though?

 

[Dranzer]

Galaxia blade can dispell anything that the caster conceive as darkness( if I'm jot wrong).... galaxia blade dispell alegeria curse and save everyone from that sticky things .

Yeah... but csk is big and he is flying.... up in the sky.... can memento mori suck csk or gets any bigger though?

With the Galaxia Blade thing, if that's true then you're probably right, but I do think that in the case where Mard is able to cast Memento Mori, it should be able to effect the CSK despite his size, because imo it felt more like a spell, that once it came into contact with someone, it would surround it and go into full effect.

 

[Jko]

CSK curb stomps especially if this is own power. CSK on his own (a.k.a his Spirit World form) >>>>>>>>>>>>> Current Lucy CSK >>>> Tartarus Lucy(Full powered) CSK >> Etherious Mard. CSK does Galaxia Blade turns Mard into stone and smashes him into pieces or he does a full frontal attack of that magnitude. Full power CSK would god stomp Mard Geer, there was a reason he was summon at the minimum requirements and that's bcs he can solo Tartarus w/o breaking a sweat. The CSK is Legend status in FT.

 

[Crimson Ice]

Mard easily.

 

[Medkaradaraba]

Marde wins low dif-mid diff at Etherious form.

CSK curb stomps especially if this is own power. CSK on his own (a.k.a his Spirit World form) >>>>>>>>>>>>> Current Lucy CSK >>>> Tartarus Lucy(Full powered) CSK >> Etherious Mard. CSK does Galaxia Blade turns Mard into stone and smashes him into pieces or he does a full frontal attack of that magnitude. Full power CSK would god stomp Mard Geer, there was a reason he was summon at the minimum requirements and that's bcs he can solo Tartarus w/o breaking a sweat. The CSK is Legend status in FT.

CSK couldn't curbstomp a Base version of Marde, infact Marde was playing around dodging all of his moves, and was literally one-handed the whole time. He didn't even think of CSK as a serious strength which is why he held END's book the whole time. The only reason why CSK wasn't done in was because of his immortality/regeneration. Etherious Marde would beat the shit out of CSK to a point that his slow ass wouldn't be able to realize what happened. CSK was enraged, pissed off the whole time.


Other than that your assumptions of >>>>>>> is irrelevant and laughable. CSK is legendary only in your fanfictions.

 

[Boomburst]

Marde wins low dif-mid diff at Etherious form.



CSK couldn't curbstomp a Base version of Marde, infact Marde was playing around dodging all of his moves, and was literally one-handed the whole time. He didn't even think of CSK as a serious strength which is why he held END's book the whole time. The only reason why CSK wasn't done in was because of his immortality/regeneration. Etherious Marde would beat the shit out of CSK to a point that his slow ass wouldn't be able to realize what happened. CSK was enraged, pissed off the whole time.


Other than that your assumptions of >>>>>>> is irrelevant and laughable. CSK is legendary only in your fanfictions.

You gotta keep in mind though that the CSK who fought Mard was severely handicapped as he was restricted by Lucy's meager remaining mp. CSK with his own power should be vastly vastly superior to that, so I'd definitely put him on the same level as Mard or at least quite near him. Which one of them wins is definitely up to speculation, but I'd say it would be a much closer fight than what you're suggesting.

 

[Crimson Ice]

You gotta keep in mind though that the CSK who fought Mard was severely handicapped as he was restricted by Lucy's meager remaining mp. CSK with his own power should be vastly vastly superior to that, so I'd definitely put him on the same level as Mard or at least quite near him. Which one of them wins is definitely up to speculation, but I'd say it would be a much closer fight than what you're suggesting.

You can't assume he's that much stronger that's a huge gap. At best he's on a serious Base Mard's level or a above that, not enough to challenge a full powered Mard.

 

[Solitrine]

They've fought in the past before and Mard didn't seem to take CSK seriously in Tartarus. Take of that what you will.

 

[Jko]

Marde wins low dif-mid diff at Etherious form.



CSK couldn't curbstomp a Base version of Marde, infact Marde was playing around dodging all of his moves, and was literally one-handed the whole time. He didn't even think of CSK as a serious strength which is why he held END's book the whole time. The only reason why CSK wasn't done in was because of his immortality/regeneration. Etherious Marde would beat the shit out of CSK to a point that his slow ass wouldn't be able to realize what happened. CSK was enraged, pissed off the whole time.


Other than that your assumptions of >>>>>>> is irrelevant and laughable. CSK is legendary only in your fanfictions.

CSK was running on his bare minimum of power (he was summon via sacrifice and it was when Lucy was exhausted)

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and could have two shotted Mard even in that form if Lucy didn't fight Jackal which resulted in her losing more MP.

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Mard wasn't dodging for fun he was dodging bcs he knew those attacks could kill him. Mard even tried to go CQC by got put in his place and was forced to keep a distance the entire battle. He was like a mosquito just zipping around and dodging the fly swatter but once solid contact landed he would be dead.

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Mard's attacks however couldn't even phase the CSK let alone do actual damage. Even Mard noted this .

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If the CSK wasn't PIS into not using Galaxia Blade from the get go then the Tartarus Arc would have no main villian. He petrified Mard and could have killed him after.

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Galaxia Blade + Meteor Blade

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would of made this a stomp for the CSK but we can't have FT getting their main baddy taken away from them.

Mard ain't nowhere near this level.

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CSK governs an entire world full of spirits, has knowledge of the stars, was one of the being from over 400 years ago, has an assortment of spells, instant regeneration, immortality, can rekt Island while being at his bare minimum, and still has a plethora of hype behind him.

Yeah the guy is up there in the Legendary beings and that's no fanfiction buddy.

 

[Medkaradaraba]

CSK was running on his bare minimum of power (he was summon via sacrifice and it was when Lucy was exhausted)

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and could have two shotted Mard even in that form if Lucy didn't fight Jackal which resulted in her losing more MP.

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Mard wasn't dodging for fun he was dodging bcs he knew those attacks could kill him. Mard even tried to go CQC by got put in his place and was forced to keep a distance the entire battle. He was like a mosquito just zipping around and dodging the fly swatter but once solid contact landed he would be dead.

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Mard's attacks however couldn't even phase the CSK let alone do actual damage. Even Mard noted this .

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If the CSK wasn't PIS into not using Galaxia Blade from the get go then the Tartarus Arc would have no main villian. He petrified Mard and could have killed him after.

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Galaxia Blade + Meteor Blade

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would of made this a stomp for the CSK but we can't have FT getting their main baddy taken away from them.

Mard ain't nowhere near this level.

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CSK governs an entire world full of spirits, has knowledge of the stars, was one of the being from over 400 years ago, has an assortment of spells, instant regeneration, immortality, can rekt Island while being at his bare minimum, and still has a plethora of hype behind him.

Yeah the guy is up there in the Legendary beings and that's no fanfiction buddy.

CSK wasn't running on his bare minimum. It would count as too much of risk for him to be summoned if that's all he's going to be empowered with especially against a top dog like Marde, if he fought with that level amount of power it wouldn't phase him well. There was nothing restricted CSK and he didn't say anything in his battle with Marde in this regard, so you're just using a filmsy excuse to make CSK much better than what he is. Besides, Aquarius isn't someone who underestimates her opponents especially to such a serious level.

Lol? You're acting as if Marde was gunning scared at big ol CSK attempting to wail him on with his slow ass movements rofl.
Look at Marde's facial expressions, he was smiling, calm and wasn't even phased. The fucker held a book with one hand, not even taking CSK that seriously lol.

Could've would've should've doesn't matter. CSK didn't kill Marde, because he hasn't shown to. Don't care about any other analytics you want to throw since they are all assumptions anyway

The only thing you got right was CSK has more attacking power than minus MM. Not going to compare their dura since CSK has that convenient immortality hax.

Feat wise, Marde is about equal to CSK in base, EF Marde mid diffs so called "legendary" CSK heh.