Current Vaam in Base vs Adori

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

Who do you think is the stronger fighter? Current V in baam's body limited to only base or Arie adori zahard?

Thoughts?

 

[Demonspeed]

His attack was able to crack Gustang's shield. He wins. His power is clearly still in the realm of FHs. The problem is power management I guess.

 

[maverickframe_19]

It will be a closer fight than some might think simply by the token of V getting used to present Sinshoo and Bam's body.

In terms of sheer power maybe at present Adori overwhelms him but she won't be able to land a critical hit on Vam. V has been teaching Bam things like observing the flow of shinshoo and becoming one with it, letting it guide you. This to me screams technique perfection and effectiveness while using any shinshoo control skills. Like his tension, small orbs but power packing it like a tank. Refinement and Consolidation of existing powers should be key for Bam going forward.

V will teach Bam to land critical hits without sweat. I would say Vam would win but only after some training. Adori ain't going straight to Bam. I think it will take some time for her to find his current position. Meanwhile, SIU will use this opportunity to train Bam via V. He has already planted the seeds.

 

[Pro Factor]

V blitzzes her. V is not as big of a target as mothership is and is actually able to move. This Adori thing reminds me of a scene in IP man 4 when dude kicks a door before fighting Bruce Lee (actor that plays Bruce Lee) and he replies “the door won’t fight back, but I will”. Same thing here with Adori… Mothership won’t fight back, but V will. If Gustang and Traum didn’t see V until he knocked Traum out, I have no reason to think Adori would be able to see him before he gets to her.

 

[Jackjohsnon]

Adori. Vaam will beat her completely when he gets his full power

 

[VON]

V.

 

[Lord V returned]

V is going to put a remote shinsu bang in her stomach and it'll start to grow, his last words would be "No, you're not pregnant". And then she ends up like Enkidu.

 

[maverickframe_19]

V is going to put a remote shinsu bang in her stomach and it'll start to grow, his last words would be "No, you're not pregnant". And then she ends up like Enkidu.

It's funny he actually used "airwave zero" to hit Enkidu.
The most basic piercing technique. Everything about V screams the master of basic martial arts technique and shinshoo control skills to the most efficiency and I think this is what he is trying to teach Bam.

 

[Lord V returned]

It's funny he actually used "airwave zero" to hit Enkidu.
The most basic piercing technique. Everything about V screams the master of basic martial arts technique and shinshoo control skills to the most efficiency and I think this is what he is trying to teach Bam.

Yeah given that he was known for his tension, he perhaps figured that it wasn't as efficient to have a flashy big explosion type of shinsoo control as perhaps something basic with insane tension in it.

 

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

V.

Yo where the fuck did you get the avi pic from

 

[AdityaG]

Vaam. But, Adori won't be one-shot fodder for Vaam in his current base state, given her hype recently.
Current Vaam seems to have difficulty fighting 2 FHs (& Urek) in current time, but has confidence to fight one. Adori should still be below that.

... Everything about V screams the master of basic martial arts technique and shinshoo control skills to the most efficiency and I think this is what he is trying to teach Bam.

Agreed.

What about black sinshu rain though ? The shinsu concentration to cause shinsu rain is something only Enryu and Baam (or V?) reached. Was it V's mastery on shinsoo ?

 

[arrowofsky]

Vaam. But, Adori won't be one-shot fodder for Vaam in his current base state, given her hype recently.
Current Vaam seems to have difficulty fighting 2 FHs (& Urek) in current time, but has confidence to fight one. Adori should still be below that.



Agreed.

What about black sinshu rain though ? The shinsu concentration to cause shinsu rain is something only Enryu and Baam (or V?) reached. Was it V's mastery on shinsoo ?

By the way, we have always seen shinsoo rain portrayed as so godly, but did we ever see that it actually amount to something in the end? At least not for Baam vs Dumas and Baam vs White afaik.

 

[maverickframe_19]

Yo where the fuck did you get the avi pic from

He sent me the link, and I bookmarked it instantly. The artist is dope. His V, bam, designs go crazy.

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Vaam. But, Adori won't be one-shot fodder for Vaam in his current base state, given her hype recently.
Current Vaam seems to have difficulty fighting 2 FHs (& Urek) in current time, but has confidence to fight one. Adori should still be below that.



Agreed.

What about black sinshu rain though ? The shinsu concentration to cause shinsu rain is something only Enryu and Baam (or V?) reached. Was it V's mastery on shinsoo ?

That is Bam. I am still of the opinion that black shinshoo is the 25th Bam style shinshoo. Bam>Night>Black

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By the way, we have always seen shinsoo rain portrayed as so godly, but did we ever see that it actually amount to something in the end? At least not for Baam vs Dumas and Baam vs White afaik.

The black shinshoo corroded everything where it fell. It didn't amount to anything in the fight but gave White some trouble, as dealing with Bam's corrosive shinshoo was painful for him. It will definitely cause trouble in the future; I am certain of it, especially if that rain turns to spears, similar to what Enryu did.

 

[sho87]

If baam even with v in him had trouble with dumas, how's adori gonna lose?

 

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

If baam even with v in him had trouble with dumas, how's adori gonna lose?

V didn't awaken against dumas

 

[zoradante1]

I take Adori on this one, because i felt like gustang is more wary of Adori than Vaam

 

[Demonspeed]

I take Adori on this one, because i felt like gustang is more wary of Adori than Vaam

...What?

 

[maverickframe_19]

The man was sitting in his chair comfortably. Worried my ass.

 

[Vali x lucifer]

V is most likely stronger by a decent margin, his fighting style should also be hard to read for Adori. Her only chance could probably come from being underestimated and/or having some hax item at her disposal, which is possible given her position. I give it to V like 85-15, it's not 100-0 because at the end of the day Baam's body is still lacking in stamina/control/durability, 1 unexpected blow could have serious consequences given Adori raw power even with V being quite a bit stronger.

 

[kkck]

I think we are getting to a point where bam's overall durability is sort of beginning to catch up to the rest of his specks (which is not to say his body is specifically durable like kallavan's though). Normally when bam goes all out he keeps thing at mid range, mostly bombarding the enemy with shinsoo blasts. But against dumas, who is probably stronger than everyone bam fought in the past combined, he actually engaged in CQC even when dumas was in his purple mode. Bam meant to paralyze dumas with a floral butterfly and reverse flow control to land his shot but it's still a significant deviation from how he goes about fights. It could be because the leviathan has significant defensive properties but it adds up to the same, bam's CQC capacity has shown astounding growth.