Disconnection can't harm Urek's bare body (with proof).

[Ray Barracuda]

Obviously if Urek stayed at the 30% reinforcement power ranges it'd slice him in half pretty easily.

But from the 70% - 100% reinforcement ranges it's harmless to him.

Proof?

Already happened when Urek stood directly in it's field of effect unharmed during the Traum fight.


So really, he can tank it to thy kingdom come if he just decides to stand there.


Urek isn't one to avoid direct attacks anyway.

 

[Jackjohsnon]

Depends on how Traum uses It. The paper sheet is more useful for one shot kill If he cuts your head or pierces your heart. Urek can't tank It IMO, he has to counter It with enough power.

Urek when faced a disconnection bang, punched It away. That's the only refference we have.

Also, I would stop using the % when analyzing Urek among his peers unless you believe a 70-80% Urek is stronger than Prime V.

 

[arrowofsky]

Obviously if Urek stayed at the 30% reinforcement power ranges it'd slice him in half pretty easily.

But from the 70% - 100% reinforcement ranges it's harmless to him.

Proof?

Already happened when Urek stood directly in it's field of effect unharmed during the Traum fight.


So really, he can tank it to thy kingdom come if he just decides to stand there.


Urek isn't one to avoid direct attacks anyway.

Man, we are NOT sure about the reinforcement percentage of Urek while facing off Gustang & Traumerei. You may think they are far more important than Luslec so he should have been in higher reinforcement, but it is not canon and it might not be the case. It is not proof.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

Depends on how Traum uses It. The paper sheet is more useful for one shot kill If he cuts your head or pierces your heart. Urek can't tank It IMO, he has to counter It with enough power.

Urek when faced a disconnection bang, punched It away. That's the only refference we have.

Also, I would stop using the % when analyzing Urek among his peers unless you believe a 70-80% Urek is stronger than Prime V.

The bang is the strongest form of disconnection tho?

That's what Traum had to unlock the moment he regained his full power, that's the disconnection Traum had to use to contend against Eurasias flames.

3D disconnection is far superior to a disconnection from an empty husk Traum.


So it's the strongest version Urek casually stood in.

 

[Lonatian]

Disconnect/Rupture is basically a shinsoo technique. It's not a weapon, but an attack with a special effect.
Anything not connected to the Traumerei will be disconnected.
So you can't block it with your body, you can only destroy it.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

Man, we are NOT sure about the reinforcement percentage of Urek while facing off Gustang & Traumerei. You may think they are far more important than Luslec so he should have been in higher reinforcement, but it is not canon and it might not be the case. It is not proof.

Yes, we also aren't sure about what percentage of power he used against the revos, it might have been the same level he used to fight off two FH's together, we can't be sure just cause we think them more important than the revos.


Yeah, I'm being sarcastic don't mind me



But one thing is sure, Luslec is not capable of defeating two FH's combined even if we wank him to kingdom come and so therefore, even without SIU laying it out for us, Urek most definitely put in more effort against them than he did Luslec.




Please remember that Urek used Shinsoo and no stated percentages against Baam of all people, it's all about context.

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Disconnect/Rupture is basically a shinsoo technique. It's not a weapon, but an attack with a special effect.
Anything not connected to the Traumerei will be disconnected.
So you can't block it with your body, you can only destroy it.

Urek can kick and punch it with his bare body and no special skills, i think were far past the point of not believing he can't tank it when he already did too.


Urek's body as a whole defies logic, we keep getting emphasis on how his body doesn't make sense even for irregulars.



We'll see him tank stronger shit eventually, this much is sure without doubt.

It's kinda a losing game to say his limit falls below this level right now when things eventually get even more absurd.

 

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

Didn't Vaam casually negated the effects of disconnection? Anyway as gustang mentioned urek can not keep destroying disconnection attacks.

 

[Lonatian]

Urek can kick and punch it with his bare body and no special skills, i think were far past the point of not believing he can't tank it when he already did too.


Urek's body as a whole defies logic, we keep getting emphasis on how his body doesn't make sense even for irregulars.



We'll see him tank stronger shit eventually, this much is sure without doubt.

It's kinda a losing game to say his limit falls below this level right now when things eventually get even more absurd.

Except for the contract that Zahard has that guarantees “no harm”, no one can say that they will not be harmed (including Urek). But most people have super recovery.
Disconnect is a technique with armor penetration effect without exception. As I said above, it is a transparent shinsoo technique and is not solid. In fact, neither 3D nor 2D forms can be touched with hands (or feet).

 

[Shadowlord123]

Dunno which scene you're talking about, but I'm pretty sure Urek didn't tank Disconnection with his bare body without defending.

 

[Jackjohsnon]

The bang is the strongest form of disconnection tho?

That's what Traum had to unlock the moment he regained his full power, that's the disconnection Traum had to use to contend against Eurasias flames.

3D disconnection is far superior to a disconnection from an empty husk Traum.


So it's the strongest version Urek casually stood in.

You don't need 3D to cut someone head. If your goal is cutting through, 2D will do the job. With 3D Bangs Traum was like just throwing spheres towards Gustang. Differente usage.

Also, Traum didn't use Disconnection to contend with Eurasia's flames. His Disconnection was totally consumed by her flames lol

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Didn't Vaam casually negated the effects of disconnection? Anyway as gustang mentioned urek can not keep destroying disconnection attacks.

The same way Yihwa destroyed Yuri's Rose Shower?

 

[Ray Barracuda]

Except for the contract that Zahard has that guarantees “no harm”, no one can say that they will not be harmed (including Urek). But most people have super recovery.
Disconnect is a technique with armor penetration effect without exception. As I said above, it is a transparent shinsoo technique and is not solid. In fact, neither 3D nor 2D forms can be touched with hands (or feet).

And Urek can punch said concepual "intangible" attacks with his bare fists, already by definition breaking and defying the logic of the attack which also defies logic because he's not using a technique nor some special shinsoo attack but his bare freaking body.

Fuck it, he could even slap it too using the same power.


And he's already stood at the heart of a disconnection bang unharmed too as i pointed out, the attack is harmless to him.

Urek never noted it as a threat either even though he's never seen it before in his life until that very moment he met Traum.

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Dunno which scene you're talking about, but I'm pretty sure Urek didn't tank Disconnection with his bare body without defending.

This scene here.


Traumerei straight up throws Disconnection at Urek's body and it did shit.

Due stood right at the heart of it.

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You don't need 3D to cut someone head. If your goal is cutting through, 2D will do the job. With 3D Bangs Traum was like just throwing spheres towards Gustang. Differente usage.

Also, Traum didn't use Disconnection to contend with Eurasia's flames. His Disconnection was totally consumed by her flames lol

3D Bangs have both the cutting power of 2D and also the ability to tear space time a new one which is a much higher feat that cutting of the material form of an object.

So it's most definitely by far the strongest, it lacks nothing.

And i know, that's why i said contend, not drive off or equal.

You can contend against something and still be on the losing end, it's not a word meant to depict equality, just an action.

 

[Lonatian]

And Urek can punch said concepual attacks with his bare fists, already by definition breaking and defying the logic of the attack because he's not using a technique nor some special shinsoo attack but his bare freaking body.

And he's already stood at the heart of a disconnection bang unharmed too as i pointed out, the attack is harmless to him.

Urek never noted it as a threat either even though he's never seen it before in his life until that very moment he met Traum.

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This scene here.


Traumerei straight up throws Disconnection at Urek's body and it did shit.

Due stood right at the heart of it.

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3D Bangs have both the cutting power of 2D and also the ability to tear space time a new one which is a much higher feat that cutting of the material form of an object.

So it's most definitely by far the strongest, it lacks nothing.

And i know, that's why i said contend, not drive off or equal.

You can contend against something and still be on the losing end, it's not a word meant to depict equality, just an action.

Yes it was a punch, but Urek didn't touch Disconnect.
Yes Urek was inside the Disconnect attack, but those were balls, it didn't cover the entire space. Urek is just standing in the blank space between disconnected balls.

I've said it many times, Disconnect is an attack with a special effect. As soon as he touches it, the effect immediately activates. Urek has to destroy it before it touches him (By punching the air to "blow" away the disconnect balls.)

 

[Jackjohsnon]

3D Bangs have both the cutting power of 2D and also the ability to tear space time a new one which is a much higher feat that cutting of the material form of an object.

So it's most definitely by far the strongest, it lacks nothing.

And i know, that's why i said contend, not drive off or equal.

You can contend against something and still be on the losing end, it's not a word meant to depict equality, just an action.

Bro, It is a sphere. It has no cutting usage. When using in sphere form, Traumerei was more like erasing space and destroying everything It touched. Urek punched it away, he didn't tank It.

You are reading the series with some wrong logic. Traumerei, the moment he saw Eurasia flames, started to use the Wall of Malice to defend himself, not Disconnection.

 

[Lonatian]

This is a disconnect ball.
View media item 29560Urek is not inside it.
He stands outside the disconnect balls and destroys it with his punch.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

Bro, It is a sphere. It has no cutting usage.

You are reading the series with some wrong logic. Traumerei, the moment he saw Eurasia flames, started to use the Wall of Malice to defend himself, not Disconnection.

No, it's a sphere of disconnection which can tear a whole in space time.

It's not a solid sphere of shinsoo you can bash someone in the head with, it's pure disconnection as Traumerei showed to us.


Disconnection too has no "edge" everything about it when you touch it is immediately severed.


If disconnection had an edge then Gustang would be able to push it from a "blunt" side which makes no sense, disconnection is pure severance manifested into reality.


So It's not a physical blade, it's conceptual.

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This is a disconnect ball.
View media item 29560Urek is not inside it.
He stands outside the disconnect balls and destroys it with his punch.

No, he's inside.

Traumerei launched it at him head on, Urek did not dodge or move away from the attack.

Everything about the sphere is pure disconnection, if the weakness of disconnection were to be somehow standing inside it then boy is Traumerei useless.

 

[Shadowlord123]

This scene here.


Traumerei straight up throws Disconnection at Urek's body and it did shit.

That's just Traumerei summoning Disconnection right in front of Urek. It's close, but it's not actually touching him. It's about to do so, but Urek just destroys it with a punch.

Gustang's dialogue also suggests this is the correct interpretation. Do you think he'd be hyping Disconnection as something that Urek can't take lightly if he had just witnessed Urek tank it with his bare body without defending and without taking damage? Obviously not. That'd make Disconnection an absolute joke of the highest caliber to Urek, and Gustang someone with severe schizophrenia.

 

[Lonatian]

No, he's inside.

I'll ask you a question.
Refer to ch.639 (ss3 ep 222), all the things inside the disconnect ball disappeared, including Gustang's arm, the book, Hunos, the Sprout, etc.

Then if Urek is inside the balls, why are his clothes, shoes and hat still there? Or is the outfit he's wearing an anti-shinsoo armor?

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Gustang's shirt can be torn, don't tell me Urek's clothes are better than Gustang's.
At least we all know he can't afford a new ship.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

I'll ask you a question.
Refer to ch.639 (ss3 ep 222), all the things inside the disconnect ball disappeared, including Gustang's arm, the book, Hunos, the Sprout, etc.

Then if Urek is inside the balls, why are his clothes, shoes and hat still there? Or is the outfit he's wearing an anti-shinsoo armor?

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Gustang's shirt can be torn, don't tell me Urek's clothes are better than Gustang's.
At least we all know he can't afford a new ship.

Why yes actually, Urek's clothes are in fact super freaking durable.


In an area without shinsoo aka the floor of death, his clothes were perfectly unharmed by Hell joes full power attacks, straight up no tear at all.


When Luslec launched his spells which could partially scratch Urek, his clothes were unharmed.


Urek used his shoes to block V's attack too.


Urek's clothes, whatever they're made out of (most probably soaked in his shinsoo) is shown to be very freaking strong.

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That's just Traumerei summoning Disconnection right in front of Urek. It's close, but it's not actually touching him. It's about to do so, but Urek just destroys it with a punch.

Gustang's dialogue also suggests this is the correct interpretation. Do you think he'd be hyping Disconnection as something that Urek can't take lightly if he had just witnessed Urek tank it with his bare body without defending and without taking damage? Obviously not. That'd make Disconnection an absolute joke of the highest caliber to Urek, and Gustang someone with severe schizophrenia.

Urek was literally standing right on it, when he punched it and crouched down he didn't fly lower, he's just level.


Also Gustang literally is someone with schizophrenia, he literally said he was gonna kill Urek and the 10 family heads plus V snd Zahard too.


Why on God's green earth would I trust his judgement on the limitations of Urek's strength or capabilities, Arie Hon has far more authority in this category.


Dude saw Urek snuff out Eurasias flames, one shot the gross monster and one shot disconnection and yet you think he's not schizo?

 

[Shadowlord123]

Urek was literally standing right on it, when he punched it and crouched down he didn't fly lower, he's just level.


Also Gustang literally is someone with schizophrenia, he literally said he was gonna kill Urek and the 10 family heads plus V snd Zahard too.


Why on God's green earth would I trust his judgement on the limitations of Urek's strength or capabilities, Arie Hon has far more authority in this category.


Dude saw Urek snuff out Eurasias flames, one shot the gross monster and one shot disconnection and yet you think he's not schizo?

Gustang was said to be one of the most knowledgeable people in the Tower, as well as the strategist of the Great Warriors. I agree Season 3 hasn't done him justice in this regard, but we're clearly meant to believe he's the furthest thing from a dumbass or a schizo.

I don't see at all how Urek tanked Disconnection there. To me, it clearly looks like Disconnection got summoned right below him, and just before it hits him he destroys it with a punch. Gustang's dialogue also suggests that.

And well, Gustang's assessment of Urek there might be true or wrong, but it's the only thing we have. And the only thing we have doesn't suggest at all Urek can tank Disconnection with no damage and no guard. If that was truly what happened on-panel, it's impossible Gustang would have said that.

 

[Demonspeed]

Disconnection can definitely do it. It's because of that property that it's such a dangerous ability. Durability is irrelevant.