Shounen Double Arts by Komi Naoshi

[LegACy]

i think it's more like a biological weapon, but given the time period (feudal-like) that may be way out of its realm...

you're forgetting that it's a fantasy world, so those kind of illness can probably be created magically instead of technologically

Do Gazelle think of Troi as a Will of God or Nature?
Do they get any advantages from this epidemic?

What if... there's a special race that's immune to troi? may be it's like the fifth forgotten race or what, and by using Troi, they want to make that only their race remains...

 

[Koen]

Well there's really something strange

but the gazelle have a plan and that plan got to do with troi. It's obvious they want to take out the sisters. Why? Easy though troi can't be cured, the sisters at least are a weapon against it. So imo, I think sisters slows down the plan of the gazelle. The great thing: we can't know. But zezu touched el, no?

 

[Kioras]

i think it's more like a biological weapon, but given the time period (feudal-like) that may be way out of its realm...

If I had to place the time period, I would say it isn't feudal, more like early industrial.

I also thought about the amount of people who died from the disease over 600 years, 1 billion, and that amount of death seems a rather low rate for such a deadly disease.

 

[Toboe LoneWolf]

Well, the people who disappear with Troi...maybe they don't really disappear, but go somewhere? Or maybe they turn into or are used for some kind of "fuel" or "energy" for the Gazelle.

...And I'm kinda wondering why they're called the Gazelle. I mean, I keep thinking of the gazelle animal. And...seriously, is there ANYTHING linking them to the animal? Are there some sort of Japanese myths with them? ...Are they actually named for the gazelle animal, or did the Japanese just happen to come out that way? Uh, can someone tell me this?

ETA:

I also thought about the amount of people who died from the disease over 600 years, 1 billion, and that amount of death seems a rather low rate for such a deadly disease.

Well, if we take 1 billion to be 10^12, and the Black Plague to have a 75 million death count (over the course of a few centuries), 10^12/75000000 = 13333, so Troi would actually be significantly more deadly than the bubonic plague. It depends on if we're on the long scale or the short scale though, 1 billion could also mean 10^9, which 10^9/75000000 = 13.33, so. *shrugs* (Also, I'm using the total death count of the Black Death over a couple centuries, not over a single year.)

 

[haya5h1]

A disease whose final stage is making people disappear completely could be considered to be magical in nature, I think. As for why the Gazelle want to kill Kiri and Elraine's people, well... basic competition over land and resources is my guess.

The kana used for the villains is ガゼル, ga-ze-ru, so it just happens to sound like Gazelle. But there've not been any references to the actual animals, to answer your question... though it might be ironic wordplay, since the entire gazelle species is generally considered to be prey animals.

 

[Doc Astaroth]

you're forgetting that it's a fantasy world, so those kind of illness can probably be created magically instead of technologically

But on the other hand, there is Arthur C. Clarke´s Third Law!

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

Well, but it doesn´t matter, if it is now technology or magic... Troi is strange!!


(Uh, my English is so bad!)

 

[hatsuharupeace]

but the gazelle have a plan and that plan got to do with troi. It's obvious they want to take out the sisters. Why? Easy though troi can't be cured, the sisters at least are a weapon against it. So imo, I think sisters slows down the plan of the gazelle. The great thing: we can't know. But zezu touched el, no?

You forgot about one thing though, Zezu was wearing gloves, so he couldn't get infected by Troi. About the plan, maybe all the Gazelle members are just like Kiri, and have the ability to heal and empower.

The disappearance of Ellie was really strange though, I hardly think that would be caused by the seizures and the spread of Troi though. Maybe the fighter sisters have arrived?

 

[Koen]

You forgot about one thing though, Zezu was wearing gloves, so he couldn't get infected by Troi. About the plan, maybe all the Gazelle members are just like Kiri, and have the ability to heal and empower.

The disappearance of Ellie was really strange though, I hardly think that would be caused by the seizures and the spread of Troi though. Maybe the fighter sisters have arrived?

Well I have been thinking something along that too. It's obvious kiri was adopted so maybe with some gazelle, he's part of a race or is there any secret, a very rare 5th race?

 

[xi0]

You forgot about one thing though, Zezu was wearing gloves, so he couldn't get infected by Troi. About the plan, maybe all the Gazelle members are just like Kiri, and have the ability to heal and empower.

The disappearance of Ellie was really strange though, I hardly think that would be caused by the seizures and the spread of Troi though. Maybe the fighter sisters have arrived?

But Troi is a disease that causes you to slowly disappear, of course the spreading and advancement of it would cause you to vanish.

 

[hatsuharupeace]

Uh-huh, that would be awesome actually, in terms of storyline depth, and character development. Maybe Kiri was *part* of Gazelle, with Gazelle being a group of the 5th race, before he was found by his parents right now, and adopted.

@xi0: Is it?? Oops, forgot about that, looks like my prediction can be scrapped then. Thanks for clearing that up xi0.

 

[haya5h1]

Disappearing is the final stage of Troy. Elle had already started disappearing when she first met Kiri, so his power has been suppressing her "death throes" (for want of a better term) all this time.

The color spread from chapter 2 shows Elle and Kiri against contrasting backgrounds

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it seems to hint that Kiri may be from something that's opposite to Elle.

oh, and going back through the chapters, both the bumbling assassins were wearing gloves. But the first assassin took a direct hit on his chin from Elle's bare fist, so shouldn't he be fretting about getting Troi?

 

[Koen]

hmmm, is that just imagination

but on the background of kiri, the art structure reminds me some way to a gazelle

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look at this guy horns - they don't necessarily are right lined

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the round that's made = are the eyes (pink), while when going up you have the horns (green)

a bit below, it's the nose (blue)

 

[hatsuharupeace]

The horn symbol on the wall looking like the horns of a gazelle?? Pretty similiar, but it could be there to mislead you. But there's always the possibilty.

 

[LegACy]

Wow, cool discovery koenosaki!

I've been thinking that Kiri might be a part of Gazelle, but well, it can't be, since Gazelle want to assassinate him. I mean, they must have known that Kiri is the fifth race from his immunity to troi...

BTW, shouldn't Zezu's power is also doubled when touching Kiri?

 

[haya5h1]

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the round that's made = are the eyes (pink), while when going up you have the horns (green)

a bit below, it's the nose (blue)

OMG you're right. I was thinking it was just a generic Evil-ish Face (TM).
*stares at the Thomson's Gazelle* Those horns and face markings vs the face on the wall are WAY too similar to be a coincidence. So maybe it IS "Gazelle" after all. I doubt Komi-sensei would go that far just to yank the carpet out and go "HAHA, RED HERRING GOTCHA"... I bet he purposely put it in for keen-eyed readers to find.

 

[Zoe]

It's obvious kiri was adopted

Why would his mother lie about the pregnancy story?

 

[Koen]

Why would his mother lie about the pregnancy story?

Well when the mother talked about her pregnancy, just reread chapter 5

you totally feel there's something that isn't right. I wouldn't be suprised if kiri was a baby left behind before their doors. Come on, he has powers but his parents are normal? Normally that should give you the feeling there's something that isn't right, I think the parents made kiri into a good boy with his special powers and he was educated well but kiris origin is somewhere else

 

[Kioras]

ETA:


Well, if we take 1 billion to be 10^12, and the Black Plague to have a 75 million death count (over the course of a few centuries), 10^12/75000000 = 13333, so Troi would actually be significantly more deadly than the bubonic plague. It depends on if we're on the long scale or the short scale though, 1 billion could also mean 10^9, which 10^9/75000000 = 13.33, so. *shrugs* (Also, I'm using the total death count of the Black Death over a couple centuries, not over a single year.)

Actually the black death, while very deadly, did not persist as much as Troi is in this universe, evolved immunities and changing conditions drastically reduced it's effectiveness over the centuries.

Using the numbers given, troi has an average of 1.7ish million deaths a year, worldwide, in an era, if we place population on the low end, comparing it to the middle ages, of 300-400million, it isn't a really significant number of people, atleast compared to those that will die to other normal causes.

I was thinking of comparing it to small pox, which in the 20th century alone killed several hundred million people before it was eliminated

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

I just came back(actually came back a couple days ago) from long two months without my computer. Anyway, I just started reading this. It's awesome!

But anyway, how longs does it take(normally) to scanlate a chapter/when is the raw released?

 

[haya5h1]

Well when the mother talked about her pregnancy, just reread chapter 5

you totally feel there's something that isn't right. I wouldn't be suprised if kiri was a baby left behind before their doors. Come on, he has powers but his parents are normal?

But like Zoe said, what reason do they have to lie to Elle?

I think the size difference between Mink and Urates may be THE clue to Kiri's ability. Perhaps Mink and Urates are of different races, and both races naturally possess a recessive gene for his ability that doesn't emerge when members of the races mate with their own race, but became dominant in Kiri because of his mixed blood.

I am not Gregor Mendel, but I have this

Spoiler: long theory that is loooong

that in the past, the 4 races lived separately because of distance or hostility. And only in the recent centuries - maybe unified by the Troi epidemic, maybe because of improved transportation - the races started to mix with each other, leading to mixed-race marriages.

You know how mix-breed mutts are (almost) always healthier than purebred dogs? So, my theory is, the early result of the race-mixing was the emergence of girls who have partial immunity to Troi. Girls who weren't identified as Sisters might have gone on to have children who carried recessive Troi-immunity genes that have the potential to become dominant if the people who have them mate with the right people.

Going by this theory, and assuming normal mutation rate, it's possible that all kinds of Troi-immunity genes could be going dominant. Kiri's generation might see the emergence of more kids who are immune to Troi, though probably not to the degree that Kiri is. The emergence of Elle as one of the most powerful Maille Sisters with an increased ability to tolerate Troi is also a sign.

The theorized "5th race" could therefore be a group of people who are all descendants of mixed-race pairings, who possess extraordinary abilities because of their mixed blood. The Gazelle might be a 5th race subgroup who have realized this, and are evilly making sure that only their race survives by ensuring that all the other races are wiped out by Troi. Therefore there might be nothing sinister at all about Kiri's ability - Komi might just be pointing out that he's genetically similar to the Gazelle but not necessarily destined to become a member of them.

Long way of saying, Kiri could be a fortuitious genetic mutant BECAUSE of his parents' unorthodox pairing.

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how longs does it take(normally) to scanlate a chapter/when is the raw released?

So far, the Double Arts raw is usually released on Saturdays/late Friday nights for people in the Western Hemisphere. Edited Mangas usually come out within a day.
if you're asking about Editing in general, it can take anywhere from 1 to 6 hours for a normal 20-page chapter, depending on whether it's a speedscan or a MQ-HQ scan.