Shounen Doubt by Tonogai Yoshiki

[hatsuharupeace]

Umm.... I'll see what I can do.

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[Mediafire mirror for chapter 11]

 

[Quetz]

This chapter kind of randomly killed my interest in this manga for me. Generic responses to a set of generic circumstances, followed by a completely expected set of reactions. =/

 

[GothHearth]

I Suspect Rei !! xD

 

[hatsuharupeace]

Doubt chapter 12 is out, grab it [here]. I'll post my thoughts on the chapter after I've finished downloading it on slow internet.

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Damn, this chapter was exciting!

Spoiler

Looks like Hajime figured out who the wolf is, I'm thinking it's either Haruka or Rei. Why Haruka even though she's dead?? From the way Hajime reacted when he saw that Yuu didn't have a barcode on his chest, the only other person who had it near their chest was Haruka. Though it's not really perfect evidence, I would think it's a really subtle hint. Why Rei even though it looks like she's dead?? I seriously have no idea, it's the only person I could really think of who's still alive.

 

[Saintz0r]

Omg!

Spoiler

Interesting chapter. I guess the wolf could've faked her death, Hajime wouldn't have figured out who she is if she was a new character :P
But why she didn't kill Yuu? The female who was most likely to let him alive is Mitsuki. And we didn't get to see her face when Yuu saw her body so it could be anyone's body with a similar cloth
Btw, it's not a good idea to let Hajime there alone almost dying

 

[hatsuharupeace]

Spoiler

I really do think the wolf is Mitsuki now, from the evidence given. When you see her body hanging from the ceiling in chapter 11, you don't see a face or head. This could mean, and please don't read on if you're quite sensitive towards gore-ish things, that whoever the wolf had, and in this case Mitsuki could have dressed up the beheaded body of Haruka in her own clothing, and then placed the body in that room, in order to fool everyone that she had died. Another piece of evidence is how she hesitated when she was about to kill Yuu, which obviously meant that she had some sort of strong feelings for him, and couldn't bring herself to kill him, which was further emphasized during Yuu's thoughts in chapter 11 after seeing 'Mitsuki's body hanging from the ceiling.

So, thoughts anyone?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Spoiler

Okay,let me try to do this Sherlock Holmes style.

Hajime figured out who the killer is by elimination. There is a door that only the wolf has access to. This means that the killer is the only one who hasn't used their bar code yet. So,he logically assumed that the killer was Yuu.
However upon seeing that Yuu didn't have a barcode....He realized that the killer is...REI! And Then Were None!

/Agatha Christie reference

...Or...Hajime staged the whole thing(although that is close to impossible,given that he almost died....) and the killer is himself.

 

[igotthegoods]

lots of suspense in this chapter....it kept me on the edge of my seat!

Spoiler

i still don't suspect hajime; he was much too obvious from the start. rei is my prime suspect (see the above deduction from sherlock holmes) followed by mitsuki. hatsu's idea is pretty good too, so i'm keeping mitsuki on my suspect list. it's also possible that it's both of them (a la scream). that could be an interesting twist.

i have a love/hate relationship with scenes like the one where hajime almost names the wolf, but stops short. it's so frustrating and you wish he would just spit it out already but the suspense is what keeps things interesting, ne?

 

[hatsuharupeace]

Spoiler

Hajime figured out who the killer is by elimination. There is a door that only the wolf has access to. This means that the killer is the only one who hasn't used their bar code yet. So,he logically assumed that the killer was Yuu.
However upon seeing that Yuu didn't have a barcode....He realized that the killer is...REI! And Then Were None!

I think you might be wrong there, Hajime said that the barcode that the wolf has has the ability to open any of the doors, and open them a multiple amount of times. Most of the others in the group have tried their barcode against other doors which they haven't opened, and they haven't opened, meaning that their barcode isn't the wolf's and confirming that they aren't the wolf.

 

[Raijatsu]

maxybe the wolf has more than just one barcode?
He could have shown the fake one to the group and then he used the hidden one to get to Hajime and Mitzuki. I think she is the murder and the body we saw was Harukas

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Spoiler

I think you might be wrong there, Hajime said that the barcode that the wolf has has the ability to open any of the doors, and open them a multiple amount of times. Most of the others in the group have tried their barcode against other doors which they haven't opened, and they haven't opened, meaning that their barcode isn't the wolf's and confirming that they aren't the wolf.

Spoiler

Yes, exactly. Most people have tried to open the doors, and yet they couldn't....Hence, they are NOT the wolf. Ergo, the only person who has not yet tried to open other doors should be the killer. He thought that the killer was Yuu...Since he never tried to open a door,because he didn't have a barcode to begin with.(Hajime assumed that he Yuu was lying about that).
The only logical conclusion to him was that Yuu was the killer....But after he found out that it was impossivble for that to happen....Then he realized that the only possibility was that Rei was the killer.
And as Sherlock Holmes said once, “When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.”

 

[kaloo]

Spoiler

I dunno. I mean a dead person being the murderer is even more impossible, but I tihnk rei did it too... But it still seems to be just another impsoible option

 

[Neji2112]

the new chapter is supposed to be out online so keep an eye out for it soon!

it'll be here if you have a program that supports "torrent" files
http://www.snoopycool.com/torrents/Doubt_ch13.zip.torrent

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Spoiler

I dunno. I mean a dead person being the murderer is even more impossible, but I tihnk rei did it too... But it still seems to be just another impsoible option

Spoiler

It has been done before, in "And then were none" by Agatha Christie. IT IS impossible for someone who is dead to be the killer...UNLESS THEY ARE NOT DEAD.

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AHHH THIS LAST CHAPTER WAS AWESOME! THE SUSPENSE WAS JUST...PERFECT! "You're are..." proves that the killer is NOT Mitsuki, otherwise he wouldn't say "You're..." he would just shout her name(in my opinion).

...So,yes. Let's see who is right....

I SAY THE KILLER IS REI. SHE FAKED HER OWN DEATH. SHE WENT PSYCHO BECAUSE OF SOMETHING WITH HER TV SHOW. MITSUKI IS ALIVE.

Those are my guesses. *Mystery geek mode on* I haven't enjoyed a manga this much in a looooooooong time.

So, I REALLY think the killer is Rei. Everything points out to her... I would love to be wrong though. I love to be surprised while reading a mystery novel.

*remembers first time he read The Murder of Roger Ackroyd*

Oh, and it is proven that Mitsuki can't be the killer because..um...not sure if this kind of logic works but,

Spoiler

The killer doesn't seem to have breasts. But again the author might just have forgotten about that.

 

[eni]

People, other than for pics and RAW spoilers - you don't need to use spoiler tags, really.

As for chapter 13: AMAZING! I'm dying to see the solution!

I also suspected Rei from the start but the bunny is clearly male. Also Yuu having a double personality would be something I had loved to see but that doesn't explain the "second" person... hmm... gah, I want to see it now >.<

The mangaka managed to keep it very interesting through already more than 2 volumes and whatever he decides to pull off in the next chapters, I believe he won't disappoint us

 

[hatsuharupeace]

What I just hope is that the killer isn't Mitsuki's father, since he was mentioned at the very start of chapter 1. That would just really spoil Doubt.

 

[eni]

Hm, it would be a fun twist if he were. There must be someone who's behind the game. A adult makes sense and it would explain Mitsuki's presence there.

 

[Jeffu]

well the one who has done the killings must have a great sense of justice his own weird type of revenge/justice thing, if you look at what was written at rei's body and mitsuki's dad is a cop so it would make sense for him to be the murderer but if so why would he put his own daughter in this kind of game thats a good question :P

I don't really like this thinking but ive heard it from others too and i start to think its possible for the bunny killer to be 2 different person boobs and then no boobs would explain that i guess.

other thing that i noticed is that when we see the bunny killer with boobs i think the size fits haruka and not mitsuki so maybe haruka is the killer or am i a total pervert staring at boobs and analyzing them? :P

 

[shouryuujo]

I think the "obvious" is Mitsuki and her dad. The wolf hesitated in killing Yuu must know him pretty well - the father doesn't want to kill his daughter's best friend. However, Hajime had the "revelation" of who the killer is so he/she must be in the group so that makes mitsuki and her dad a viable pair.

I think the barcode might be hidden in one of the keychains - maybe that's why hajime had a flashback on it.

I think if it is not Mitsuki's dad it might be another person in the group - mitsuki and her dad as far as we know did not bring this group together so that means someone from the inside brought the group together for the "real game".

We know for sure who died:
Rei <- hanged up like that - nails to the hands and chest... the nails to the had has to be real to hold her up...
Haruka <- unless the head is a replica..

Doubtful:
Hajime <- stabbed deep in the back by the "wolf"..he is medical student so he could theoretically avoided major organs from the stab and be the other accomplice.
Eiji <- never saw his face (room was dark and door blocked by wolf to prevent them from entering) and the body could be anyone.

Maybe:
Mitsuki <- never really seen who injured her... and those who were injured always resulted in death or near death so very doubtful the wolf let her go with a scratch. She may very well be dead and the mangaka is trying to throw us off by not having the body of haruka around and make us think haruka's body is hung there and not mitsuki's...

Regardless we shall finally see who the wolf is... hopefully it is someone we didn't expect and not Mitsuki's dad...

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

I think the "obvious" is Mitsuki and her dad. The wolf hesitated in killing Yuu must know him pretty well - the father doesn't want to kill his daughter's best friend. However, Hajime had the "revelation" of who the killer is so he/she must be in the group so that makes mitsuki and her dad a viable pair.

I think the barcode might be hidden in one of the keychains - maybe that's why hajime had a flashback on it.

I think if it is not Mitsuki's dad it might be another person in the group - mitsuki and her dad as far as we know did not bring this group together so that means someone from the inside brought the group together for the "real game".

We know for sure who died:
Rei <- hanged up like that - nails to the hands and chest... the nails to the had has to be real to hold her up...
Haruka <- unless the head is a replica..

Doubtful:
Hajime <- stabbed deep in the back by the "wolf"..he is medical student so he could theoretically avoided major organs from the stab and be the other accomplice.
Eiji <- never saw his face (room was dark and door blocked by wolf to prevent them from entering) and the body could be anyone.

Maybe:
Mitsuki <- never really seen who injured her... and those who were injured always resulted in death or near death so very doubtful the wolf let her go with a scratch. She may very well be dead and the mangaka is trying to throw us off by not having the body of haruka around and make us think haruka's body is hung there and not mitsuki's...

Regardless we shall finally see who the wolf is... hopefully it is someone we didn't expect and not Mitsuki's dad...

We can't be sure Rei died. Hypnotism+ Suggestive atmosphere+Make up=It's not impossible that she survived.

Also, anyone else thinks that maybe the WHOLE THING was just a game? Like virtual reality or something?