Discussion Dragon Thread

[DARK]

I'm one of those people who keeps insisting that Dragon ate a Dragon Mythological Fruit that granted him the access to wind/storm manipulation.

As was mentioned before, Dragon was shown bandaged up in the Goa Kingdom flashback so this means that his abilities, if DF, are not Logia. It is possible that Dragon ate a Paramecia-type Devil Fruit- being able to summon up storms (similar to Magellan's venom powers).

It is possible that Dragon has Haki, but this is only assuming that he is one of the main top-tier characters in the series (placed with the likes of Rayleigh or Shanks). I'm not exactly too sure if it is Haoushoku Haki though, since as of right now, it has only been restricted to the leaders of dangerous pirate crews. Since Dragon is not a pirate but a "revolutionary," for now I'll skip out on that.

I don't think Dragon is going to immediately strike out the WG. At this present moment, he seems concerned about building up his forces and spreading his influence to neighboring islands.

 

[Dasbones]

I'm one of those people who keeps insisting that Dragon ate a Dragon Mythological Fruit that granted him the access to wind/storm manipulation.

As was mentioned before, Dragon was shown bandaged up in the Goa Kingdom flashback so this means that his abilities, if DF, are not Logia. It is possible that Dragon ate a Paramecia-type Devil Fruit- being able to summon up storms (similar to Magellan's venom powers).

There were no bandages, that was his tattoo, unless you could point it out on the page. His powers are still up in the air.

It is possible that Dragon has Haki, but this is only assuming that he is one of the main top-tier characters in the series (placed with the likes of Rayleigh or Shanks). I'm not exactly too sure if it is Haoushoku Haki though, since as of right now, it has only been restricted to the leaders of dangerous pirate crews. Since Dragon is not a pirate but a "revolutionary," for now I'll skip out on that.

I highly doubt Dragon has anything less than Sovereign Haki, since it's only been restricted to characters that are leaders, not just pirate captains. If the Haki is at least somewhat genetic (which would make sense) then since Luffy has it, and Garp seems to have it, it would only make sense if Dragon also possesses it. And so far, all users have been shown to have great charisma, strength, and leadership statuses.

For example:

Luffy, Self explanatory.

Hancock, Pirate Captain, Queen of an entire island of warriors.

Whitebeard... Well duuuuuh

Shanks, Has been shown to be respected by most everyone, very powerful.

Ace, seems to have gotten on allot of people's good side, hence Maniford war.

Rayleigh, First mate of Gol D. Roger's crew, could easily be a captain of his own crew, again; friggin' powerful.

Now on to Dragon, He is currently the most wanted man in the world, he commands an army that threatens the power of the WG, and he's Luffy's dad; If his grandpa is any indication of power, you can only imagine how tough Dragon has gotta be. Overall I'm not saying that Dragon does have the Sovereign Haki, but it's pretty clear that he might.

 

[Zmsp]

Well, I'll only talk about my theory about his DF, I do believe he's the Dragon zoan, first of all, a weather paramecia seems to overpowered to me,that would be the kind of fruit that would turn the one thing that is the weakness off all DF users into an advantadge,water. But seing his current status,he must be a guy with insane power, so that's not that impossible.

What makes me believe that he's the dragon zoan is mostly the way the marines refered to him,as the dragon, as it's been proven in OP, people with high positions are usually the target of rumours about their powers, so being refered as the dragon makes me believe the marines have somehow created a myth around a man that is such a threat to them,but that they have so little information about, using the previously created rumours by the ones that have either seen dragon's ability or faced it, such a thing happened to marco, being called marco the pheonix, it's directly related to his ability,and most of the marines had never seen it before.

The second fact is that in Loguetown, instead of going all the way to say dragons have some control over weather,that thing could be assumed as a dragon's breath, that's a much more plausible theory in my opinion,besides,in the anime the wind was shown green,so that could be a hint..

The only drawback I find is that in order to use such a power related to his ability, I think dragon should have went through some body transformation typical of the zoan users, and the dragons,even having that aura of invencibility people usually atribute them, seems a less rich and diversed power than maybe a weather paramecia,so I would prefer the weather paramecia instead,I just doubt it..

 

[chess4]

my take on dragon is he is a mythical dragon zoan user. look at him, he almost looks like a dragon in the face.

at 1st i thought dragon was once a marine, but the WG didnt have any info on him. i cant wait to see what made him turn agianst the WG. im sure it had something to do with luffys mother. luffy looks nothing like dragon, so he probably took after his mother. maybe she was somehow killed by the WG and that pissed dragon off

 

[tret16]

i figured it's because he know's what happened durring the blank age that no one seems to know about except for the ones who created the marine

 

[nguqua]

Monkey D. Dragon's Devil Fruit

I know that there has been discussion on this topic at various places within other threads, but I couldn't find a single thread dedicated to this topic. I personally support the idea of Mythical zoan type: dragon.

These are my reasons. Many of them, by themselves, are very forced and stretched. However, together, they can cumulate to become some thing of collective relevancy:

1) Storms have always foreshadowed Dragon's appearances in the manga. He seem to be able to control not just wind, but the weather itself (rain, thunder). In Chinese and Japanese mythology, dragons are noble creatures that control weathers by creating rains and storms. Watsumi, in particular, is a dragon that has the power to turn into a human.

2) Dragon's face has tattoos that look like scales of a dragon. Though the reason for his tattoos are most likely not due to him having the devil fruit of mythical zoan dragon, but it can be a hint from Oda that foreshadows his ability. Also, Asian dragons are a common connotation for when people think of tattoo figures.

3) In one of the manga's cover pic, the strawhat crew is seen relaxing on a green dragon. In the anime, Monkey D Dragon's wind is depicted with the color green. Again, this doesn't mean that the green dragon in that particular pic is actually Dragon himself, but it can be a hint. Oda has used cover pics to foreshadow new plots and characters in the future before.

EDIT: found the picture of the strawhats riding a green dragon
http://www.mangareader.net/103-48478-2/one-piece/chapter-578.html

 

[Dark God Zeus]

Re: Monkey D. Dragon's Devil Fruit

Yeah, a dragon fruit sounds pretty good. It'd really augment that he's one of the most powerful people in the world, improved martial art abilities with a zoan, possibly flight, and weather manipulation that basically makes him a logia without the near invulnerability (lightning, wind, rain, possibly ice).
And he probably has great potential in all three haki as well.

And the fact that mythical zoan are the least represented devil fruit, and they are stated to be rarer than logia, it's not far off, and it would show that a powerful organization such as the revolutionary army could get it's hands on such a prize.

 

[karamm]

I know this might be very unlikely, but it could've been someone else that caused the lightning to hit the platform, one of the revolutionaries that was with Dragon.
I dont think Dragon would move on his own, even if it were to East blue.

Of course, he could be a dragon zoan

Dragon might have grown up in Fuush village as well, and he has been to the gray terminal. Seeing how the people living in the gray terminal were persecuted and how the world government wouldnt do anything about it, he went against his father's wishes and did not become a marine, but revolt agains the WG.

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/one_piece/v12/c100/18.html
"the government is looking for you!" well, of course they're looking for him. Could it mean that Dragon was recently given the highest bounty or revealed himself as the leader of the Revolutionary army?

 

[zerocooldx]

I think that Dragon knows a certain amount of what happened during the Void Century but at the same time something happened to possibly his family or even his wife that was the trigger into pushing him to become a revolutionary. Some event had to have triggered his "revolutionary" movement, i don't think he just woke up one day or read some books or met some knowledgeable people and then decided to charge the world.

 

[Geez]

An air logia fruit seems too overwhelming: with it, you could fly, create storms, disappear in thin air, your body is the whole wide world's air... damn you're a god !

So I agree with most of all the things that been said here about a mythical zoan fruit. Old dragons' legends and the fact that marines called him "Dragon" are important matters. Besides, when you read Wanted by Oda, you see how much he took ideas from it in order to write OP. Even Ryuma and his legend appears And at that time, Oda really wanted to draw a dragon, I think the idea was born there.

Dragon's past is a mystery but i think his anger comes from personal history. Garp being a high ranked marine, dragon could have been close to nobles in his youth. Maybe he fell in love with a nobles daughter who got pregnant and then have been chased because of it. When she got killed or just died due to giving birth, he began to question WG's real motives.

 

[nguqua]

An air logia fruit seems too overwhelming: with it, you could fly, create storms, disappear in thin air, your body is the whole wide world's air... damn you're a god !

Not to mention that you can just withhold oxygen and everyone dies

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

Not to mention that you can just withhold oxygen and everyone dies

A logia user can only control the element he produces because it is his own body, so he cannot control the same element which is naturally produced.

 

[nguqua]

A logia user can only control the element he produces because it is his own body, so he cannot control the same element which is naturally produced.

Crocodile has been seen manipulating the desert. He evens said that no one can beat him in the desert.

Enel was also seen controlling the electricity from the giant black ball cloud that his ship was producing.

 

[Channy]

Crocodile has been seen manipulating the desert. He evens said that no one can beat him in the desert.

Enel was also seen controlling the electricity from the giant black ball cloud that his ship was producing.

I think The Desert was being affected by crocodiles DF because fore one he created a small sandstorm and let it loose then from there on nature takes it away to Yuba and then his Ground Death attack was him placing his hand on the ground and sucking the life from the ground with his DF

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

Crocodile has been seen manipulating the desert. He evens said that no one can beat him in the desert.

Enel was also seen controlling the electricity from the giant black ball cloud that his ship was producing.

They were actually both affecting the natural elements with their own powers, so they were definitely not controlling the natural elements: their elemental bodies were interacting with their respective natural elements.

 

[nguqua]

I don't think so. Crocodile was seen creating a giant quick sand by simply touching the desert. I think that was clear indication of him manipulating the desert.

 

[GomuGomuNo]

made a research, sounds nice, doesn't it?

The interpretation of the dragon as a symbol of the conflict of natural forces, the changing seasons and the victory of summer over winter is also one of the "lunar " explanations of the early mythological research.

In the Far East he was a part, a symbol of imperial rule, on the other hand, to a water deity. Ceremonies in which dragons are begging for rain, have made him almost as a god of rain;

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Dragon Zoan Type can control water. (condesne and so on...)

 

[xeteboi]

Dragon Zoan Type can control water. (condesne and so on...)

this would be totally imbalance plus Oda doesnt want to relate in in water ability..
i think it is a weather one and a paramecia type.

 

[Schabrak]

Double Dragon XD

GomuGomuNo
We already got another "Dragon" affiliated with "water" introduced, Shiryū/Seiryū[click for much mor info on eastern dragons], romanized Shiliew of the Rain. I doubt Oda would reuse that topic on another major character just to appease fans and hype his own character.

 

[alelucas]

Nice old thread!

IMO, Chapter 586 also shown us a wind stream. It's pulled/pushed Sabo till Dragon. And Sabo suddenly stopped when he reached Dragon.

Spoiler

As it was an intramural scene I think it wasn't a wind blowing from the Gray Terminal's flames.