Hangout Edens Zero Hangout Thread

[King Moe]

One piece doesn't sell like that anymore,it once sold 4 millions in a single volume but not nowadays due to many people shifting to online reading.Sure people still buy physical volumes no doubt but it's no where like before.


And also EZ is supposed to have around 30 volumes as said by Mashima.FT sold 60 million copies in 64 volumes,note it's more than double volume count that EZ is supposed to have.To reach that level of sales in 30 volumes then EZ need to reach Attack on Titan level sales per volume.


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Ah I heard about that, well does make sense, but don't think it takes away it being impossible as it can still reach top 10 with sales it can get in new era since it also affecting other series too.

Also true, but Mashima did said he can continue over that if more ideas and something comes along the lines about it. With how big space and environment is, he can truly go farther even more than FT since he got a lot of free room when outer space as you can visit many planets, galaxies, dimensions shift, etc.. We have to wait and see how far he wants to take it though and still keep the quality he has right now. It has more potential compare to past series Mashima has work.

 

[Arjuna]

Ah I heard about that, well does make sense, but don't think it takes away it being impossible as it can still reach top 10 with sales it can get in new era since it also affecting other series too.

Also true, but Mashima did said he can continue over that if more ideas and something comes along the lines about it. With how big space and environment is, he can truly go farther even more than FT since he got a lot of free room when outer space as you can visit many planets, galaxies, dimensions shift, etc.. We have to wait and see how far he wants to take it though and still keep the quality he has right now. It has more potential compare to past series Mashima has work.

I just want Edens Zero to sell more,when the Digitalis arc comes,it will sell even more.

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Rank｜Titles | This week's sales by copies｜Cumulative sales

April 22nd ~ April 28th (Credit to Kaizou_10 / Negative Syndicate)

01. Kingdom #54 (191,315 / 601,455)
02. Giant Killing #51 (106,074)
03. Nanatsu no Taizai #36 (86,440 / 297,749)
04. Shingeki no Kyojin #28 (84,897 / 836,182)

05. Kuubo Ibuki #12 (69,684)
06. Yuru Camp △ #8 (67,691)
07. Gotoubun no Hanayome #9 (63,989 / 320,591)
08. Akatsuki no Yona #29 (62,090 / 128,804)
09. Isekai Meikyuu de Harem wo #4(58,032)
10. Daiya no Ace Act II #16 (57,665 / 178,725)
11. Meitantei Conan #96 (53,728 / 487,092)
12. Youjo Senki #13 (53,204)
13. Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari #13(50,482)
14. Dungeon Meshi #7 (48,378 / 331,360)
15. Kujo-nin #3 (46,964)
16. Kidou Senshi Gundam Thunderbolt #13(45,874)
17. Kenja no Mago #11 (44,833)
18. Honey Lemon Soda #10 (42,223)
19. Isekai Ojisan #2 (40,375 / 52,819)
20. JJM Joshi Juudou-bu Monogatari #6(36,678)
21. One Punch-man #19 (36,157 / 487,034)
22. Ase to Kessen #3 (33,814)
23. Yagate Kimi ni Naru #7 (30,804)
24. Meitantei Conan Zero no Tea Time #3(30,779 / 276,036)
25. Demi-chan wa Kataritai #7 (30,641 / 82,020)
26. Life So Happy #3 (28,648 / 54,368)
27. Days #32 (28,171 / 92,878)
28. Bakemonogatari #5 (26,866 / 99,113)
29. Masamune-kun no Revenge #11(25,319)
30. Tsuiraku JK to Haijin Kyoushi #4(24,602 / 47,329)
31. Haikyuu!! #37 (24,471 / 516,488)
32. Koko wa Ima Kara Rinri Desu。#3(20,355 / 36,114)
33. Boku ni Hana no Melancholy #11(19,944)
34. Takane to Hana #14 (19,861 / 39,795)
35. Isekai Mahou wa Okureteru! #4(19,373)
36. Seitokai Yakuindomo #17 (19,348 / 63,037)
37. Gurazeni Pa League-hen #4 (19,053)
38. Territory M no Juunin #7 (18,858)
39. Ao no Exorcist #23 (18,729 / 305,081)
40. Yomawari Neko #5 (18,687)
41. Edens Zero #4 (18,229 / 62,826)

 

[immblueversion]

I just want Edens Zero to sell more,when the Digitalis arc comes,it will sell even more.

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Rank｜Titles | This week's sales by copies｜Cumulative sales

April 22nd ~ April 28th (Credit to Kaizou_10 / Negative Syndicate)

01. Kingdom #54 (191,315 / 601,455)
02. Giant Killing #51 (106,074)
03. Nanatsu no Taizai #36 (86,440 / 297,749)
04. Shingeki no Kyojin #28 (84,897 / 836,182)

05. Kuubo Ibuki #12 (69,684)
06. Yuru Camp △ #8 (67,691)
07. Gotoubun no Hanayome #9 (63,989 / 320,591)
08. Akatsuki no Yona #29 (62,090 / 128,804)
09. Isekai Meikyuu de Harem wo #4(58,032)
10. Daiya no Ace Act II #16 (57,665 / 178,725)
11. Meitantei Conan #96 (53,728 / 487,092)
12. Youjo Senki #13 (53,204)
13. Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari #13(50,482)
14. Dungeon Meshi #7 (48,378 / 331,360)
15. Kujo-nin #3 (46,964)
16. Kidou Senshi Gundam Thunderbolt #13(45,874)
17. Kenja no Mago #11 (44,833)
18. Honey Lemon Soda #10 (42,223)
19. Isekai Ojisan #2 (40,375 / 52,819)
20. JJM Joshi Juudou-bu Monogatari #6(36,678)
21. One Punch-man #19 (36,157 / 487,034)
22. Ase to Kessen #3 (33,814)
23. Yagate Kimi ni Naru #7 (30,804)
24. Meitantei Conan Zero no Tea Time #3(30,779 / 276,036)
25. Demi-chan wa Kataritai #7 (30,641 / 82,020)
26. Life So Happy #3 (28,648 / 54,368)
27. Days #32 (28,171 / 92,878)
28. Bakemonogatari #5 (26,866 / 99,113)
29. Masamune-kun no Revenge #11(25,319)
30. Tsuiraku JK to Haijin Kyoushi #4(24,602 / 47,329)
31. Haikyuu!! #37 (24,471 / 516,488)
32. Koko wa Ima Kara Rinri Desu。#3(20,355 / 36,114)
33. Boku ni Hana no Melancholy #11(19,944)
34. Takane to Hana #14 (19,861 / 39,795)
35. Isekai Mahou wa Okureteru! #4(19,373)
36. Seitokai Yakuindomo #17 (19,348 / 63,037)
37. Gurazeni Pa League-hen #4 (19,053)
38. Territory M no Juunin #7 (18,858)
39. Ao no Exorcist #23 (18,729 / 305,081)
40. Yomawari Neko #5 (18,687)
41. Edens Zero #4 (18,229 / 62,826)

Don't know if it makes much difference to say this, but that puts Vol. 4 in 20th place in terms of total sales.

 

[Arjuna]

Don't know if it makes much difference to say this, but that puts Vol. 4 in 20th place in terms of total sales.

I just noticed that in this second week EZ had the lowest sales that EZ ever recorded,this week EZ had sold 18229 copies while vol 3(which sold lesser than usual) had sold in the second week 30,320 copies.

 

[natsu x777]

I just want Edens Zero to sell more,when the Digitalis arc comes,it will sell even more.

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Rank｜Titles | This week's sales by copies｜Cumulative sales

April 22nd ~ April 28th (Credit to Kaizou_10 / Negative Syndicate)

01. Kingdom #54 (191,315 / 601,455)
02. Giant Killing #51 (106,074)
03. Nanatsu no Taizai #36 (86,440 / 297,749)
04. Shingeki no Kyojin #28 (84,897 / 836,182)

05. Kuubo Ibuki #12 (69,684)
06. Yuru Camp △ #8 (67,691)
07. Gotoubun no Hanayome #9 (63,989 / 320,591)
08. Akatsuki no Yona #29 (62,090 / 128,804)
09. Isekai Meikyuu de Harem wo #4(58,032)
10. Daiya no Ace Act II #16 (57,665 / 178,725)
11. Meitantei Conan #96 (53,728 / 487,092)
12. Youjo Senki #13 (53,204)
13. Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari #13(50,482)
14. Dungeon Meshi #7 (48,378 / 331,360)
15. Kujo-nin #3 (46,964)
16. Kidou Senshi Gundam Thunderbolt #13(45,874)
17. Kenja no Mago #11 (44,833)
18. Honey Lemon Soda #10 (42,223)
19. Isekai Ojisan #2 (40,375 / 52,819)
20. JJM Joshi Juudou-bu Monogatari #6(36,678)
21. One Punch-man #19 (36,157 / 487,034)
22. Ase to Kessen #3 (33,814)
23. Yagate Kimi ni Naru #7 (30,804)
24. Meitantei Conan Zero no Tea Time #3(30,779 / 276,036)
25. Demi-chan wa Kataritai #7 (30,641 / 82,020)
26. Life So Happy #3 (28,648 / 54,368)
27. Days #32 (28,171 / 92,878)
28. Bakemonogatari #5 (26,866 / 99,113)
29. Masamune-kun no Revenge #11(25,319)
30. Tsuiraku JK to Haijin Kyoushi #4(24,602 / 47,329)
31. Haikyuu!! #37 (24,471 / 516,488)
32. Koko wa Ima Kara Rinri Desu。#3(20,355 / 36,114)
33. Boku ni Hana no Melancholy #11(19,944)
34. Takane to Hana #14 (19,861 / 39,795)
35. Isekai Mahou wa Okureteru! #4(19,373)
36. Seitokai Yakuindomo #17 (19,348 / 63,037)
37. Gurazeni Pa League-hen #4 (19,053)
38. Territory M no Juunin #7 (18,858)
39. Ao no Exorcist #23 (18,729 / 305,081)
40. Yomawari Neko #5 (18,687)
41. Edens Zero #4 (18,229 / 62,826)

This Is bad, this is really bad, the same thing is happening to Orient

 

[Cat Sidhe26]

This Is bad, this is really bad, the same thing is happening to Orient

Is Orient doing worst or just as bad as Edens Zero in sales?

 

[natsu x777]

Is Orient doing worst or just as bad as Edens Zero in sales?

Much worse, if I'm wrong, the best volume that Orient had was the first or second being its highest number in oricon 70k while Edens Zero its highest figure is over 100k only in Oricon (with volumes 1 and 2) Volume 4 of Orient did not appear in Oricon.

 

[Arjuna]

Orient is pretty much below top 50 list

I think if it was in WSJ it would have got cancelled by now.

The question is EZ?Will it get cancelled or survive?

 

[MangerDan]

Hard to say, sales aren’t good but not terrible either.
I have a feeling ones the story ramps up it’s going to get a little better on sales.
This is just my opinion but Edens Zero feels like a wait and buy multiple volumes sort of manga.

 

[Arjuna]

Seth 2834 posted this in the Kodansha thread in our forum

Spoiler: Eden's Zero

It seems with every passing volume the overall sales of EZ are declining.

 

[natsu x777]

Orient is pretty much below top 50 list

I think if it was in WSJ it would have got cancelled by now.

The question is EZ?Will it get cancelled or survive?

Impossible to be canceled, I give you three reasons

1. The series is by Hiro Mashima, and I think his series are untouchable in this magazine (Rave and FT were a great success for Shounen Magazine, so I do not see the risk of cancellation).
2. The sales are not bad (in fact they are very good for a new manga) for the standard of the shounen magazine.
3. The series has had a great acceptance in France, Germany and Spain (I do not have the data of the USA).

EZ is popular, not as much as I would expect, but it will play letting it be until it reaches volume 10 and there if it is going to be a big hit or a series of steps

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Seth 2834 posted this in the Kodansha thread in our forum

Spoiler: Eden's Zero

It seems with every passing volume the overall sales of EZ are declining.

Where did you get that?

I love tabs and more when they give me figures I did not know about Edens Zero * O *

 

[Arjuna]

Impossible to be canceled, I give you three reasons

1. The series is by Hiro Mashima, and I think his series are untouchable in this magazine (Rave and FT were a great success for Shounen Magazine, so I do not see the risk of cancellation).
2. The sales are not bad (in fact they are very good for a new manga) for the standard of the shounen magazine.
3. The series has had a great acceptance in France, Germany and Spain (I do not have the data of the USA).

EZ is popular, not as much as I would expect, but it will play letting it be until it reaches volume 10 and there if it is going to be a big hit or a series of steps

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Where did you get that?

I love tabs and more when they give me figures I did not know about Edens Zero * O *

Here

Blue Rock

mangahelpers.com

 

[strikefreedom]

it can be explained by the fact that the guilder arc has no more to people because of the trash not assumed.

And that Digitalis looks too much like SAO, I've seen a lot of complaints about it.

Or it's because there was no limited editions for 3 and 4 so people shout XD.

Or it's the FT fan who mashima muddy because he does not give what they want for couples XD.

Or more seriously because of FT's anime which is bad and raging fans so they shun EZ.

 

[Venom]

Lmao ez will never get canceled its still doing good for a new Kodansha series compared to orient and fire force which is a lot older series and it's still getting an Anime and v4 still did better than V3 despite of golden week

 

[King Moe]

Lmao ez will never get canceled its still doing good for a new Kodansha series compared to orient and fire force which is a lot older series and it's still getting an Anime and v4 still did better than V3 despite of golden week

Impossible to be canceled, I give you three reasons

1. The series is by Hiro Mashima, and I think his series are untouchable in this magazine (Rave and FT were a great success for Shounen Magazine, so I do not see the risk of cancellation).
2. The sales are not bad (in fact they are very good for a new manga) for the standard of the shounen magazine.
3. The series has had a great acceptance in France, Germany and Spain (I do not have the data of the USA).

EZ is popular, not as much as I would expect, but it will play letting it be until it reaches volume 10 and there if it is going to be a big hit or a series of steps

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Where did you get that?

I love tabs and more when they give me figures I did not know about Edens Zero * O *

Plus with Attack On Titan and So in Deadly Sins going to end soon on their cases, Kodanasha and Weekly Shounen Magazine, they going to need a next big hit to take their places. Eden's Zero is their most popular new series out of the others. Taking it out now will hurt them on not giving a chance especially it still doesn't have an anime compare to those it's competing with who have animus by now or going to. Idk why it be a issue on it not being so far up especially it's still new itself.

It takes time as usually an anime helps boost the sales once more people learn about it more in the end.

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Here

Blue Rock

mangahelpers.com

Arjuna your overreacting again. I doubt Eden's Zero and Orient are in trouble especially they don't have any animes of their own yet. It's normal for be series around this time since they aren't well know much. Doesn't mean they are bad, just they need more publicity. Plus EZ isn't really going down as V4 sold more than V3, so it's not major problem right now. Kodanasha and Weekly Shounen Magazine are more patient people than Shueisha and Weekly Shounen Jump, they know it takes time for a series to get more popular later on instead of expected it be a instant hit the first few chapters or arc. They gotten stricter over there and might hurt them in long run if they don't stop that on their side on canceling potential new series like that.

Any point, they are fine. If you need reassurance, look at Fire Force. Made by same creator of Soul Eater. Despite issues with the SE anime and not much talk on his next series, he still around despite his manga sales not up there much and getting a new anime which is making the series to be talk about more lately as it getting more publicity.

Don't think there danger of these new series. They are doing fine and probably better than a new series do especially EZ. Wait till they get their animes and they be all good around for their future.

 

[Arjuna]

Plus with Attack On Titan and So in Deadly Sins going to end soon on their cases, Kodanasha and Weekly Shounen Magazine, they going to need a next big hit to take their places. Eden's Zero is their most popular new series out of the others. Taking it out now will hurt them on not giving a chance especially it still doesn't have an anime compare to those it's competing with who have animus by now or going to. Idk why it be a issue on it not being so far up especially it's still new itself.

It takes time as usually an anime helps boost the sales once more people learn about it more in the end.

AoT isn't ending soon, it's gonna continue for 2 more years,the author confirmed it but you are right about NNT, it's probably ending next chapter.

So yeah Kodansha might promote EZ then.

The problem is not cancelling,I checked few of the low selling manga in Kodansha,as long as it doesn't fall under 20000 in a month it is not probably get cancelled,but if the trend continues with the falling sale it will not reach much popularity.

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Plus with Attack On Titan and So in Deadly Sins going to end soon on their cases, Kodanasha and Weekly Shounen Magazine, they going to need a next big hit to take their places. Eden's Zero is their most popular new series out of the others. Taking it out now will hurt them on not giving a chance especially it still doesn't have an anime compare to those it's competing with who have animus by now or going to. Idk why it be a issue on it not being so far up especially it's still new itself.

It takes time as usually an anime helps boost the sales once more people learn about it more in the end.

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Arjuna your overreacting again. I doubt Eden's Zero and Orient are in trouble especially they don't have any animes of their own yet. It's normal for be series around this time since they aren't well know much. Doesn't mean they are bad, just they need more publicity. Plus EZ isn't really going down as V4 sold more than V3, so it's not major problem right now. Kodanasha and Weekly Shounen Magazine are more patient people than Shueisha and Weekly Shounen Jump, they know it takes time for a series to get more popular later on instead of expected it be a instant hit the first few chapters or arc. They gotten stricter over there and might hurt them in long run if they don't stop that on their side on canceling potential new series like that.

Any point, they are fine. If you need reassurance, look at Fire Force. Made by same creator of Soul Eater. Despite issues with the SE anime and not much talk on his next series, he still around despite his manga sales not up there much and getting a new anime which is making the series to be talk about more lately as it getting more publicity.

Don't think there danger of these new series. They are doing fine and probably better than a new series do especially EZ. Wait till they get their animes and they be all good around for their future.

I am not overreacting,I am basing it on simply on stats,Orient is in deep trouble from what I heard it's sales rapidly falling and is below 50 now(but anyway it's not the concern here).


Ez is not that falling that much for sure but each volume is selling lesser,if the trend doesn't reverse it will not be good trend.

If you noticed volume 4 week 2 sold the lowest till now,sure it's Golden week now but the same could have been said for other series also.

 

[strikefreedom]

what it would take is compared with FT volume 1-2-3-4 in the same periods see if, it was less, more or as much as EZ.

 

[King Moe]

AoT isn't ending soon, it's gonna continue for 2 more years,the author confirmed it but you are right about NNT, it's probably ending next chapter.

So yeah Kodansha might promote EZ then.

The problem is not cancelling,I checked few of the low selling manga in Kodansha,as long as it doesn't fall under 20000 in a month it is not probably get cancelled,but if the trend continues with the falling sale it will not reach much popularity.

So? EZ be around 2 years when AOT is ending. Doesn't take away that they will need to rely on EZ as their next big hit since they losing major series lately to have. Pretty sure they will try focusing on Eden's Zero, Orient, and Fire Force as their 'Big Three' for them to promote more.

Don't think so. V4 did better than V3, so not really declining. It still up there in overall sells as you see it 60,000+ beating other series volume sales for some of them, so it's not really in a real danger for it.

 

[Arjuna]

what it would take is compared with FT volume 1-2-3-4 in the same periods see if, it was less, more or as much as EZ.

Ft was published in those day when digital reading wasn't popular so obviously FT will be higher.

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So? EZ be around 2 years when AOT is ending. Doesn't take away that they will need to rely on EZ as their next big hit since they losing major series lately to have. Pretty sure they will try focusing on Eden's Zero, Orient, and Fire Force as their 'Big Three' for them to promote more.

Don't think so. V4 did better than V3, so not really declining. It still up there in overall sells as you see it 60,000+ beating other series volume sales for some of them, so it's not really in a real danger for it.

I will post by the month end, let's see if it crosses vol 3 or falls below.

 

[King Moe]

AoT isn't ending soon, it's gonna continue for 2 more years,the author confirmed it but you are right about NNT, it's probably ending next chapter.

So yeah Kodansha might promote EZ then.

The problem is not cancelling,I checked few of the low selling manga in Kodansha,as long as it doesn't fall under 20000 in a month it is not probably get cancelled,but if the trend continues with the falling sale it will not reach much popularity.

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I am not overreacting,I am basing it on simply on stats,Orient is in deep trouble from what I heard it's sales rapidly falling and is below 50 now(but anyway it's not the concern here).


Ez is not that falling that much for sure but each volume is selling lesser,if the trend doesn't reverse it will not be good trend.

If you noticed volume 4 week 2 sold the lowest till now,sure it's Golden week now but the same could have been said for other series also.

Again same can be said on Fire Force, but look at it. Don't think neither series are in trouble.

It is affecting the other series as weekly sales aren't the main point of sales as terms with overall sales which it is still doing good in.