Question Eduan vs Aubrion

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It all depends on how strong the main spear is. Idk if it changed but iirc only hon's sword white oar is S+ or S tier weapon. Don't think Edahn will have that level of weapon. I think if it reaches that level Edahn can beat Obrion but IIRC even obrion was never stated to be FP just this much power same for Latur
 

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It's hard to say but it wouldn't be too strange if an ignition weapon could be a big upgrade over a weapon made from shinsoo. Maybe it doesn't even need to be an ignition weapon for the boost to be significant. It's also worth noting that physical weapons can have more features added to them or be a combination of stuff but obviously ignition is the most important one. I think the best show of this is inieta who made his arie swordsmanship into exploding arie swordsmanship by using an ignition weapon. The same thing is applicable to eduan if he has ignition or compression weapons.
 

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It all depends on how strong the main spear is. Idk if it changed but iirc only hon's sword white oar is S+ or S tier weapon. Don't think Edahn will have that level of weapon. I think if it reaches that level Edahn can beat Obrion but IIRC even obrion was never stated to be FP just this much power same for Latur
AUbryon said the last time he lost to Urek, he wasn't at his best so he was at full power when they fought in the Tower.

It's hard to say but it wouldn't be too strange if an ignition weapon could be a big upgrade over a weapon made from shinsoo. Maybe it doesn't even need to be an ignition weapon for the boost to be significant. It's also worth noting that physical weapons can have more features added to them or be a combination of stuff but obviously ignition is the most important one. I think the best show of this is inieta who made his arie swordsmanship into exploding arie swordsmanship by using an ignition weapon. The same thing is applicable to eduan if he has ignition or compression weapons.
Weapons aren't made of Shinsoo so of course they are going to be even better for someone who is a weapon user initially. You need more skill to use pure Shinsoo though depending on your talent. A.A. wasn't able to generate a pure Ice Spear so he used a physical spear to make things easier.
 

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AUbryon said the last time he lost to Urek, he wasn't at his best so he was at full power when they fought in the Tower.
No they haven't been hinted to be FP. Besides remember tower restricts foreign power. So ur stating which is impossible.
 

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No they haven't been hinted to be FP. Besides remember tower restricts foreign power. So ur stating which is impossible.
The Tower nerfs it but he still has his full power. He wouldn't have said "I lost because I wasn't at my best" if he hadn't fully recovered.
 

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The Tower nerfs it but he still has his full power. He wouldn't have said "I lost because I wasn't at my best" if he hadn't fully recovered.
I have a hard time processing this, sorry
 

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"I lost because I wasn't at my best" means "This time I'll win because I am at my best."
I mean having full power and being able to use it are different things no. If tower restricts darkness I don't see that. Besides aren't they avatar? Their real body is gem. It's a fundamental thing that clones will have lesser power than original?
 

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I mean having full power and being able to use it are different things no. If tower restricts darkness I don't see that. Besides aren't they avatar? Their real body is gem. It's a fundamental thing that clones will have lesser power than original?
How is their real body a gem when they were created with physical bodies? Aubryon is stronger outside but it doesn't matter here since he and Urek were under the same conditions.
 

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How is their real body a gem when they were created with physical bodies? Aubryon is stronger outside but it doesn't matter here since he and Urek were under the same conditions.
Ch1, phanta destroyed their bodies and turned them into gems. Even assuming the TL is wrong, mago called herself a gem who cannot generate her own light. I am sure before phanta was born, she could have generated the light. Besides interms of purity it might not fall that far compared to UM's light.
 

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I don't think it's ever mentioned shinning ones aka jewel ones are nerfed inside the tower. For urek it's hard to access his true/full power though not impossible. I won't be surprised if baam timeline urek has gotten used to using his full light powers inside the tower unless SIU will seal urek's light powers somehow.
 

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Ch1, phanta destroyed their bodies and turned them into gems. Even assuming the TL is wrong, mago called herself a gem who cannot generate her own light. I am sure before phanta was born, she could have generated the light. Besides interms of purity it might not fall that far compared to UM's light.
He sealed them in gems. They aren't gems.

I don't think it's ever mentioned shinning ones aka jewel ones are nerfed inside the tower. For urek it's hard to access his true/full power though not impossible. I won't be surprised if baam timeline urek has gotten used to using his full light powers inside the tower unless SIU will seal urek's light powers somehow.
If Urek, the Axis and strongest Shiny's own power gets nerfed by Shinsoo then it should be the same for all the Shinies since they are also using PoL. Why would their PoL be unaffected?
 

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If Urek, the Axis and strongest Shiny's own power gets nerfed by Shinsoo then it should be the same for all the Shinies since they are also using PoL. Why would their PoL be unaffected?
I don't think they use POL post phanta defeat. They seem to be using darkness if anything with reversal techniques though they can amp themselves with POL.
 

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I don't think they use POL post phanta defeat. They seem to be using darkness if anything with reversal techniques though they can amp themselves with POL.
Even if it's Darkness. Urek says his power is affected because it's the power of the new Axis. So, the power isn't compatible with the environment of the Tower.
 

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Even if it's Darkness. Urek says his power is affected because it's the power of the new Axis. So, the power isn't compatible with the environment of the Tower.
Eh mago when fighting eduan not once states anything like that though. Same for aubrion who even says he was currently stronger than in the past when he faced urek. I don't think their powers are nerfed inside. The tower is dark place hence POL is affected.
 

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Eh mago when fighting eduan not once states anything like that though. Same for aubrion who even says he was currently stronger than in the past when he faced urek. I don't think their powers are nerfed inside. The tower is dark place hence POL is affected.
I don't see how it changes anything? Aubryon said it wasn't at his best before. Aubryon being at full power doesn't change the fact that the Shinsoo in the environment nerfs their powers when they use it.

Urek is double nerfed because he doesn't have his full power in the first place.

Why would the power of Urek, the strongest be nerfed but not the others? It's the Shinsoo that's the issue, not the Tower itself. Which is why Urek fused both for his final attack.
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

  • Phanta: Darkness.
  • Urek: Light.
  • Next Axis: Shinsoo.

Urek says that his power is nerfed because the Shinsoo is the Next Axis's power. Phanta is an Axis and uses Darkness so Shinsoo would nerf his power as well. It might be how he realized that the Tower was meant to create a new one. But he is much stronger than Urek is so the effects of Shinsoo on his power was probably extremely negligible or nonexistent.

Even for weaponry, it's said that the GWs's weapons had to be made to suit Shinsoo.
 

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Eh mago when fighting eduan not once states anything like that though. Same for aubrion who even says he was currently stronger than in the past when he faced urek. I don't think their powers are nerfed inside. The tower is dark place hence POL is affected.
If we follow your opinion then it just means that darkness power is way way weaker than POL because with POL mago is way way way more powerful than with darkness powers because if darkness isn't affected then it means that POL is affected yet still its way more powerful than darkness is , because without POL if mago had all her darkness powers then it just means darkness is just way way weaker than LIGHT powers and it seems the case . just look at mago how pity she was without ureks light ? remember ? where is her darkness powers or pentaminums powers ? nowhere because its nothing compared to light and without light they are weaklings and i haven't seen magos darkness powers because she cannot use anything without having light .

UREK is affected because light is > darkness and darkness isn't affected because there is nothing to be affected because its weak power compared to light because whole unvierse was created by light not by darkness and all beings with light > darkness , penta may be more powerful with darkness not because darkness itself is more powerful but he uses weapons like eduan does . so POL > Darkness surely it was displayed to us when mago was fighting with and without light .


But he is much stronger than Urek
Nowhere it is says that penta is above urek that's a ballony , you ppl overestimate penta when he will be revelead you will change that mind , you overestimate him because of what ? because he had defeated shinies ? according to aubrion now he is stronger right ? and urek defeated much more powerful version than penta had ever fought so ? what does it say to you ? urek while being nerfed still kicked much more powerful aubrion than penta kicked ?


urek kicked all those guys already like penta did so ? how did you get there that penta is stronger than urek ? penta maybe even weaker than urek while he is limited , penta wasn't created to defeat urek he was born to defeat other shinies and urek is much different than those guys and prove me wrong


plus you guys don't think or don't realize one fact that urek isn't nerfed in shinsoo domain because shinso is strong , its contrary shinsoo is weaker and it just seems powerful because its enormous size, tower is enormous and it generates shinsoo from all over the place from x y z from all over and if you are in that domain you may have problem to use your original powers because it affects your own power and in independent space shinsoo will be rendered as a puny power and that's surely .

its like if axiser of shinsoo will be plunged into darkness domain or light domain that'd render shinsoo axisers as weakling


Story itself tells you that urek is strongest being in the tower yet you think its a marketing ? you will be disappointed surely , you cannot give me one place that renders pentaminum above urek , because penta can exit and enter it doesn't mean shit and it doesn't render him to be more powerful than urek , gustang also knows how to get out and it was hinted to us and its way easier than we've thought , if you can prove to me that penta is above urek i'm here and would love to hear from you
 
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