Glox strength is 0 according to the databooks which is so stupid.lol. Anyhoo, I bet Estarossa with 3 decrees including his own is around 120k PL.
I would say that it is closer to the PL of AM Meliodas, I think that his PL should be between 132k-135k and I think it also varies with shape to his personality.
You never learn don't you lol.
I really don't know
i guess people hate her? I don't, and it's clearly seen that her magic is stronger than than the AA's magic (i don't know with graces).
You realize that she went all out whereas Ludoshel didn't even go all out at all?I really don't know
This is enough for me to see that her magic is the strongest in the Goddess clan (excluding SD) and ~noon Mael maybe. The ark she used on Meliodas looked like she really put effort in it, it was huge.
Also the slap thingy was 90% for fun by Nakaba, just like the MC gets his ass beat/slapped by his girl in other anime/manga when in fact he's leagues above her. She is too weak now to count that as a feat, that's why i said it was "not real". When she is a Goddess then people will obviously take that more seriously, or at least i will.
Because this fandom keeps making double-standards and contradictions.
It's okayPS: I'm really bad at explaining, sorry
She little/some effort into the slap.
Because saying Ludo and Zeldris are relatively close makes much more sense than saying a human girl who has admitted that her magic is “nerfed” can somehow topple a 142K monster when not even Escanor could do that; especially when Diane noted that Escanor was in a mode where he could’ve went to kill the captain
The fact that you are even trying to compare Elizabeth to someone as Meliodas himself or the Archangels who possess the power of the SD herself is the proof of your BS fanboyism.Because this fandom keeps making double-standards and contradictions.
Ludoshel and Elizabeth both used basic abilities against high-tier demons, but Ludoshel's moment is accepted as proof of his power and how he is probably equivalent/little higher than Zeldris tier.
In fact, Ludoshel's attack looked more powerful from the size/speed of it, yet Elizabeth's ''weaker'' arc did more damage to a superior demon?
But Elizabeth? Nah, doesn't count for shit because we make excuses: like A) He was off-guard (He really wasn't + Zeldris was more off-guard when the community accepts Ludoshel's feat 100% of the time) B) Lover's argument (lol, if it was Nakaba would've avoided the ark slap and just did a normal slap) C) Luck (lol?)
You're not explaining the difference to me in the first comment, once you do I might ''learn''. But I haven't yet because people only explain and make contradictions.
It's okay
She little/some effort into the slap.
But she didn't ''go all out'' because she wasn't sweating or going unconscious, like she did with Indura.
It's a basic ark from both Ludoshel and Elizabeth.
Who knows.
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LOL
Please don't, i don't want to see Demonspeed banning people because there is an Elizabeth war in the wrong thread
You mean a miserable princess that failed to receive the power of the SD aka a grace? Sure lol.$Who knows.
Maybe Elizabeth's strength returned to her, or what she was saying was ''nerfed'' was something else entirely.
She said her magic was nerfed when trying to change Meliodas, probably something entirely independent to ark.
If Elizabeth was a Goddess and had confirmed 100% access to all her strength would you be more inclined to accept this moment as a feat to her power?
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LOL
If you really want to play that game then I could sit here all day protesting about how she's God's daughter so the AA's having her mother's power means diddly squat but I'm still waiting for that explanation you have.. unless of course you can't protest what I said
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He literally let himself wide open for her to go for it lol.1st of all Zel was caught offgaurd its plain as earth is ( not a flat earth society member)
2nd Eli slapped meliodas but meliodas told her too slap him but he got the ark-slap rather than the normal one thats why he was blown away.
3rd Eli is strong but comparing her to AA is way too much. She might have OP magic power compare to AA but not overall power.
I think that was the 3k Meliodas with the sins
, because jumping by 141700PL is A LOT. He was probably born with like 10-20k.
Heh, it's not really off topic since it's about PL. I can ban people but if I do it wouldn't be because of that.Please don't, i don't want to see Demonspeed banning people because there is an Elizabeth war in the wrong thread
I’d still have my doubts for several reasons, but I’d probably be 30% more likely to believe that it was her own feat as compared to .5% belief lolWho knows.
Maybe Elizabeth's strength returned to her, or what she was saying was ''nerfed'' was something else entirely.
She said her magic was nerfed when trying to change Meliodas, probably something entirely independent to ark.
If Elizabeth was a Goddess and had confirmed 100% access to all her strength would you be more inclined to accept this moment as a feat to her power?
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LOL
If you really want to play that game then I could sit here all day protesting about how she's God's daughter so the AA's having her mother's power means diddly squat but I'm still waiting for that explanation you have.. unless of course you can't protest what I said
But the current chapter has received null discussion. How else do I occupy my time? And arguing with Sobreno is one of the ways to keep myself entertainedPlease don't, i don't want to see Demonspeed banning people because there is an Elizabeth war in the wrong thread
0 backstory on Elizabeth means this comment is an opinion and not fact (yet).
Because Meliodas was a CHILD LOL?
But the AA's were saved by Elizabeth on more than one occassion.
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Mhm.1st of all Zel was caught offgaurd its plain as earth is ( not a flat earth society member)
mhm
But so did Zeldris against Ludoshel with that logic, because he was ''wide open'' and off-guard.
I'll keep it civil or close it down if it doesn't go anywhere <3
Define ''several reasons''.
We know that she isn't a fighter and a princess and doesn't belong to any military squad, unlike the Demons brothers.But the current chapter has received null discussion. How else do I occupy my time? And arguing with Sobreno is one of the ways to keep myself entertained
0 backstory on Elizabeth means this comment is an opinion and not fact (yet).
Because Meliodas was a CHILD LOL?
And Estarossa was always weak, unlike Elizabeth who has shown her own independent power.
But the AA's were saved by Elizabeth on more than one occassion.
But are they damsels to you? No lol ofc not because it's not Elizabeth.