Discussion Estimating Characters PL

[OtakuFreak]

Actually you reminded me of something when you said 500k for the gods. Meliodas needs all 10C to at least get to the DK's level of power while he's at 50%. And Estarossa received 28k with 1 commandment, so people would think oh 28.000 x 10 = 280.000 and the gods at 100% are 560k, but it doesn't work like that. Meliodas is at the very least 142k with 0C and therefore why would he need all 10C to get to DK level at 50% ? If the gods were 280k now then he would be at DK level with just the 5C he's absorbing now. The gods are easily 1m i would say (when they are at 100%).

Yikes, 1 million?

How will they ever be defeated lol

 

[Bøjan]

Yikes, 1 million?

How will they ever be defeated lol

Well it makes sense doesn't it?

 

[TarXan]

Updated PL’s (in my opinion)

Ludociel
110,000
Magic: 80,000
Strength: 22,000
Spirit: 8,000

Sariel
86,000
Magic: 74,000
Strength: 6,000
Spirit: 6,000

Tarmiel
89,500
Magic: 75,000
Strength: 14,500
Spirit: 5,000

Mael
Base
60,000
Magic: 15,000
Strength: 42,000
Spirit: 3,000
Peak
260,000+
Magic: 80k
Strength: 130k+
Spirit: 50k+

5C Meliodas
370,000
Magic: 95,000
Strength: 255,000
Spirit: 20,000

Zeldris 2nd Mark
104,600
Magic: 19,500
Strength: 80,000
Spirit: 5,100

Estarossa
1st Form
88,000
Magic: 5,000
Strength: 80,000
Spirit: 3,000 (Decreases as he loses his mind)

2nd Form
120,000
Magic: 10,000
Strength: 119,000
Spirit: 1,000

 

[Shadowlord123]

The whole 1C=28K doesn't make much sense to me. All of the decrees make a total of 280K which is half of the DK's power (his current power), which means that his full power is 560K. If we follow this, 5C Meliodas would be 282K+ which is already a little bit above his Father, meaning that he would be able to break the curse with only 5C since you need a power that at least equals him, and tbh I don't see it at all. If you take into account all the decrees it's even worse because that would be a whopping 422K+, meaning that he could probably stomp the DK with ease, which yet again contradicts what Meliodas says:

https://i5.mangareader.net/nanatsu-no-taizai/247/nanatsu-no-taizai-10132243.jpg

Here he clearly says that if he absorbs all the decrees he will gain power on par with the DK and he can't be refering to a full power DK, since he knows that his Father is currently at half of his strenght, and he cursed him being in that state. That's very confusing to me because no matter how you look at it:

142K+50% of the DK>50% DK, it's simple logic, unless the DK has recovered more than his 50% via eating the beasts of purgatory for milions and milions of years.

 

[Commanderaxe]

Actually you reminded me of something when you said 500k for the gods. Meliodas needs all 10C to at least get to the DK's level of power while he's at 50%. And Estarossa received 28k with 1 commandment, so people would think oh 28.000 x 10 = 280.000 and the gods at 100% are 560k, but it doesn't work like that. Meliodas is at the very least 142k with 0C and therefore why would he need all 10C to get to DK level at 50% ? If the gods were 280k now then he would be at DK level with just the 5C he's absorbing now. The gods are easily 1m i would say (when they are at 100%).

That's some dbz shit right there.

 

[Bøjan]

That's some dbz shit right there.

Well the only way to make sense is like that, isn't it ?

 

[Seven777]

If one Commandment is 28k, then Galand would be in the negatives without it. Estarossa's increased power probably came from the commandment making him go berserk or something, either that or the total power gained from combining multiple commandments isnt the same as simply adding their individual strength.

 

[OtakuFreak]

If one Commandment is 28k, then Galand would be in the negatives without it. Estarossa's increased power probably came from the commandment making him go berserk or something, either that or the total power gained from combining multiple commandments isnt the same as simply adding their individual strength.

Commandments don't grant PL unless absorbed.

If they are held then they just give a curse ability.

 

[Seven777]

Commandments don't grant PL unless absorbed.

If they are held then they just give a curse ability.

Is that how it works? Are the curses still in effect when absorbed?

 

[OtakuFreak]

Is that how it works? Are the curses still in effect when absorbed?

No, the curse ability is lost I believe when absorbed

 

[Seven777]

No, the curse ability is lost I believe when absorbed

So then has Estarossa absorbed his own commandment?

 

[Commanderaxe]

Well the only way to make sense is like that, isn't it ?

 

[OtakuFreak]

So then has Estarossa absorbed his own commandment?

Yes he did.

Yes.

 

[Seven777]

Yes he did.



Yes.

You sure the commandments on their bodies dont count as already absorbed? Reading back through the chapter, i never see him absorb his own commandment, unless he does it while the AA leave him in their dimension. And wouldnt that mean that its 14k per commandment?

 

[OtakuFreak]

You sure the commandments on their bodies dont count as already absorbed? Reading back through the chapter, i never see him absorb his own commandment, unless he does it while the AA leave him in their dimension. And wouldnt that mean that its 14k per commandment?

It's not explicitly shown but it's said somewhere that Estarossa absorbed his own commandment.

And as for the PL per commandment. Idk

 

[Inuhanyou123]

I feel like Elie is a glass canon in terms of power. and considering the comments made on her magic being overpowered with healing, and the effectiveness of her light magic, its by far the biggest element of her power. Im gonna call it

Strength: 4 thousand

Spirit: 24 thousand

Magic: 90 thousand

Total PL: 118 thousand.

The fact that she seems to specialize in ark variants offensively makes her a perfect counter to demons, which makes sense for the Supreme Deity's daughter without a grace. Even with Meliodas being 142k, having that amount of magic power in addition to her magical element being potent against darkness, it makes sense for her to have been able to hurt him

 

[OtakuFreak]

I feel like Elie is a glass canon in terms of power. and considering the comments made on her magic being overpowered with healing, and the effectiveness of her light magic, its by far the biggest element of her power. Im gonna call it

Strength: 4 thousand

Spirit: 24 thousand

Magic: 90 thousand

Total PL: 118 thousand.

The fact that she seems to specialize in ark variants offensively makes her a perfect counter to demons, which makes sense for the Supreme Deity's daughter without a grace.

Considering how the Supreme Goddess took pity on Mael and gave him a grace, I'll be surprised if Elizabeth got nothing from her mother.

I'm expecting at least as the minimum divine protection from the commandments.

 

[sobreno]

Considering how the Supreme Goddess took pity on Mael and gave him a grace, I'll be surprised if Elizabeth got nothing from her mother.

I'm expecting at least as the minimum divine protection from the commandments.

Lol why giving something to someone who doesn't care less about power and strength? More and more and I am thinking that you don't even know anything about the character that you loves so much lol.

 

[OtakuFreak]

Lol why giving something to someone who doesn't care less about power and strength?

Mael was a pacifist like Elizabeth at one stage.

Yet he got sunshine.

The Supreme Goddess should at least have compassion to try to give her daughter some powers or protection. I don't see no reason why she wouldn't if she gave sunshine to Mael lol

 

[Inuhanyou123]

Considering how the Supreme Goddess took pity on Mael and gave him a grace, I'll be surprised if Elizabeth got nothing from her mother.

I'm expecting at least as the minimum divine protection from the commandments.

I don't really think that considering how Elizabeth hated to fight. I feel like SG thought of Elie perhaps as a failure because of her innate pacifism...she was probably frustated IMO because Elie was so powerful but refused to fight. Unlike the DK which was so impressed by Mel and because he was willing to fight, the DK wanted him as successor and has still gone through lengths to ensure that