Chapter Fairy Tail: 100YQ Chapter 187 Discussion

[Rigel]

Juvia already got Gray fights and is being upscaled by merely fighting Gate, it's not like she needs more. Mira and Elfman not getting an offscreen fight already sounds like a victory for them compared to their treatment since Alvarez. Gajeel relevancy and Natsu rivalry portrayal indeed should have gave him more, but Zero is the most highlighted demon, so it's possible that Mashima thinks that's this is enough.

You know, Gate having an power upgrade and still being beaten by Juvia seems wild, so i woudln't be surprised if no demon gets a buff.

I guess we'll have to wait and see what Mashima's decision will be. Last chapter, I was already done with the demons' involvement, and then Mashima surprised me with this current chapter.

I'll give Mashima the benefit of the doubt.

For now, I'm interested in how Daemon will react to Zeref's demons that Mira absorbed.

 

[grey matter]

Yeah,good usages of spells.Something this Manga about Mages!!! lags

I've always said it. Fairy tail is at it's best when MAGES use actual MAGIC.

Give us spells, counter spells, strategies.
Not more of MMA bullshit all the time. I'm fine with it sometimes, Suzaku was great in his intro and that dude was only physicals. But I think the split should be tilted towards actual magic users, currently it's overwhelmingly physicals.

 

[Jko]

I was hoping Mira or Laxus would fight Gate but atleast she is fighting the other strongest looking one. I dunno about Juvia since how fodder she has been. I'd rather of Laxus to upscale the stronger demons tbh. Or they could have subbed out Elfman as well for Juvia and then had Laxus take Gate.

That fight with Brain/Zero was actually interesting since it wasn't a casual ABC counter win but an actual thoughout battle. Use of brain was smart as hell to counter Macbeth.

Enchantment shown to do any magic again lol.

Gajeel looks like he a damn timeskip for himself lmao.

Hopefully we see some nice destructive feats.

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Surprised Jellal didn't show up to take Brain/Zero as well.

 

[Celestial]

When Midnight vs Zero feels more like an archmage battle than God Serena vs Jellal and August vs basically anyone. Grim.

I actually quite liked this. Because it made sense. Zero had more hype than Midnight by default. Midnight is the one playing catchup, and showed he was a threat through versatility. Both of them used various magics to counter each other because they knew each other. The one biggest upset that Brain is now a controlled factor, and used his genius/versatility to counter at the last second for a decisive win. This was a fight any could have reasonably taken, and Zero did.

While not terribly exciting, this is how fights should be. It's also mildly amusing to recall that Phantom Lord used to be a big deal. To the extent that Zero remembers Gajeel. I would have preferred Mira fighting and beating Zero though. It would make up for all her jobbing over the years.

Surprised Jellal didn't show up to take Brain/Zero as well.

Jellal and Laxus teammup against a big enemy would be crazy. Or just Gildarts finally showing up. They're the only 3 major ones left.

 

[strikefreedom]

Midnight's performance was good, but not enough. I thought Zero could use Archive, no need to go over Brain again, but oh well.

You're not doing anything exceptional, Midnight. He can also do Rondo with his hands.

But like, where did you come from? XD, weren't you supposed to leave? Go sightseeing and come back? Like, it's been two arcs since you moved from Drashir?

Nice new outfits, we agree that Gajeel has built up some muscle now? XD

And Gray, who still won't be able to face any demons, alala.

After Juvia, it'll probably end up in a unison raid with Meldy. Mira and Elfman can take over the other two for their strength/power sting.

I hope Gajeel takes a bit of a beating from OS Zero in 2/2.

 

[grey matter]

And Gray, who still won't be able to face any demons, alala.

There is no point in it after he took down prime Viernes lmao.

And really tho, even ignoring what happened to Viernes, Gray would just end up one shotting everyone due to slayer advantage.

 

[Rigel]

I wonder if Mashima will explore the blood magic that Juvia learned in the Alvarez arc.

Water-Make: Blood

 

[Star Frost]

So in the end Macbeth wasn’t able to beat Zero and had to be saved by Team B plus Elfman. I was expecting Jellal to show up and take the rest out.

Juvia vs Gate- I thought Mirajane would face him but oh well. I don’t have a clue how this will turn out. Juvia is kind of fodderish, but maybe Mashima will stop neglecting her water body that makes her intangible as defense. Might do a unison raid with Meredy.

Elfman vs Gaia- I didn’t expect Elfman to show up but I guess they make sense given their big physical stature.

Mirajane vs Daemon- I thought this will be Cana’s fight but again oh well. Unless Daemon is that strong Mirajane can use Take-Over on her. But I hope we see a new form. But I don’t get what Angel mean by she’s just like her.

Gajeel vs Zero- I thought this would be Laxus fight but like I said oh well. Unless plot forces Zero not to use Brain’s Jutsu Shiki to negate Gajeel’s magic he should win this. But Gajeel may learn some tricks from Levy to counter that so maybe this matchup makes sense.

 

[grey matter]

Juvia already got Gray fights and is being upscaled by merely fighting Gate, it's not like she needs more. Mira and Elfman not getting an offscreen fight already sounds like a victory for them compared to their treatment since Alvarez. Gajeel relevancy and Natsu rivalry portrayal indeed should have gave him more, but Zero is the most highlighted demon, so it's possible that Mashima thinks that's this is enough.

You know, Gate having an power upgrade and still being beaten by Juvia seems wild, so i woudln't be surprised if no demon gets a buff.

If you are looking for a W for OS members.
Hope that Juvia gets destroyed too, and Meledy + Juvia team up to take on Gate.

Same with Zero vs Gajeel.
I personally hope that Midnight isn't done here, Gajeel gets overwhelmed and they team up to take on Zero.
Midnight has a lot of history and narrative with Zero/Brain. Midnight considered him a father figure, and Midnight was really the only OS member that Brain genuinely cared for. It would be weird if Midnight didn't play a role in defeat.

Mira and Elfman should get overwhelmed too

 

[Steven]

I just know that GS is massive stronger as the Demons

Brain/Zero will not neg/low diff Gajeel.

SP12 still being a heavy benchmark is just insane

 

[Mari Mari ☆]

Finally, Mirajane is relevant again. Too bad she won't get an upscale.

 

[Tirl]

The chapter took me by surprise. Especially Brain moment. I was so sure its some sort of goodbye moment for father-son, but man, Mashima got me there and I liked it. Finally a normal fight.
I dont know how I feel about FT saving everyone again. Like, come on, let other characters do something. That was literally their fight. At least Cobra won (and Racer, which is mind blowing for me).
Cant say anything about Juvia, but Mira? Lets be honest, she can obliterate all of them alone. And they are already worn out, even if just a little.
But Gajeel? Holy cow, thats a match up I wasn't looking for but that makes so much sense considering Key of the Starry Sky where he fought Midnight. And that look of him, oh my

But I don’t get what Angel mean by she’s just like her

Maybe they both lost and found their little sisters? That has nothing to do with the fight or personality, but they really are similar, it has been shown and said multiple times through the manga.

Finally, Mirajane is relevant again. Too bad she won't get an upscale.

More of a downscale for me. She is a perfect counter to demons, they are already worn out, and thats just one of them. Even Racer managed to take one of them. If Mira wont oneshot her opponent, thats totally a downgrade for her. But at least we can get a cool fight, should be worth of it.

PS. I wonder, what Zero can do against Gajeel? I mean, Brain already fought a strong tanky opponent and couldn't do anything at all. Gajeel's def should be enough to block any of his attacks, and his shadow form can save him from Genesis Zero. Hope there wont be another fake sacrifice

 

[GodSlayer666]

If you are looking for a W for OS members.
Hope that Juvia gets destroyed too, and Meledy + Juvia team up to take on Gate.

Same with Zero vs Gajeel.
I personally hope that Midnight isn't done here, Gajeel gets overwhelmed and they team up to take on Zero.
Midnight has a lot of history and narrative with Zero/Brain. Midnight considered him a father figure, and Midnight was really the only OS member that Brain genuinely cared for. It would be weird if Midnight didn't play a role in defeat.

Mira and Elfman should get overwhelmed too

I only think that's possible with Juvia as i see no point of her being so much stronger than Meredy if she was her equal just a year ago and that she did nothing in 100YQ to justify being that strong. For the others it would be just copium, i know when it's over. The best i can do now is root for Mira to struggle a lot with Daemon, or at least for Mira to abuse her Take Over advantage, so i can rank him higher than her

Midnight has history with Zero, Gajeel haven't, the W should be his, i insist on saying that Viernes should have been Gajeel victim, so he wouldn't have to rob others victims and get no upscaling at all, while Gray instead of robbing Viernes, he could fight Faris after Lecka. And my problem with the chapter was that using OS as hypetools again ended up having the opposite effect of what an hypetool should do. If they didn't have fought OS we may could speculate that they are stronger than Team B previous opponent, but this hypetool abuse throw a cold water on that. If it was OS to have defeated them they would have accomplished something, but Team B won't accomplish nothing that they couldn't have already done. Only Juvia is an exception but it's not like she didn't had already had screentime.

More of a downscale for me. She is a perfect counter to demons, they are already worn out, and thats just one of them. Even Racer managed to take one of them. If Mira wont oneshot her opponent, thats totally a downgrade for her. But at least we can get a cool fight, should be worth of it.

Look here, i'm not the only one who realized that. The thing is, the abuse of OS as hypetools was bad writing as it did the opposite of making the demons look strong, if Team B was there to fight the demons since the start they wouldn't suffer from that for example.

 

[Mari Mari ☆]

I only think that's possible with Juvia as i see no point of her being so much stronger than Meredy if she was her equal just a year ago and that she did nothing in 100YQ to justify being that strong. For the others it would be just copium, i know when it's over. The best i can do now is root for Mira to struggle a lot with Daemon, or at least for Mira to abuse her Take Over advantage, so i can rank him higher than her

Midnight has history with Zero, Gajeel haven't, the W should be his, i insist on saying that Viernes should have been Gajeel victim, so he wouldn't have to rob others victims and get no upscaling at all, while Gray instead of robbing Viernes, he could fight Faris after Lecka. And my problem with the chapter was that using OS as hypetools again ended up having the opposite effect of what an hypetool should do. If they didn't have fought OS we may could speculate that they are stronger than Team B previous opponent, but this hypetool abuse throw a cold water on that. If it was OS to have defeated them they would have accomplished something, but Team B won't accomplish nothing that they couldn't have already done. Only Juvia is an exception but it's not like she didn't had already had screentime.



Look here, i'm not the only one who realized that. The thing is, the abuse of OS as hypetools was bad writing as it did the opposite of making the demons look strong, if Team B was there to fight the demons since the start they wouldn't suffer from that for example.

This is exactly why I think Team A should've had a scuffle with atleast ONE of ths Sechs, giving them solid feats so we can take them seriously. Like yeah, the outfit look extremely cool, but no one wants to see them beat fodder or struggle against fodder.

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This is exactly why I think Team A should've had a scuffle with atleast ONE of ths Sechs, giving them solid feats so we can take them seriously. Like yeah, the outfit look extremely cool, but no one wants to see them beat fodder or struggle against fodder.

Like I don't care about Juvia not getting an upscale because she's long since been surpassed since Alvarez and really isn't about that fighter life anymore, but the other 3 should be just as strong as Team Natsu are getting.

 

[Ratrace]

I wonder how they got there.

and Juvia not being strong enough we’ve all read the manga long enough to know that doesn’t always matter

 

[WoWfan]

I just know that GS is massive stronger as the Demons

Brain/Zero will not neg/low diff Gajeel.

SP12 still being a heavy benchmark is just insane

Considering what Irene’s persona and Brandish contributed this series it is no surprise.

 

[grey matter]

I just know that GS is massive stronger as the Demons

Brain/Zero will not neg/low diff Gajeel.

SP12 still being a heavy benchmark is just insane

Hold up.
It is just that GOD SERENA and be extension x792 Gildarts is a heavy benchmark. This doesn't extend to the average scrub Spriggan.

Remember that x792 Gajeel was a good match for Bradman and required the powerup only to bypass physical immunity basically. And that x792 healthy Laxus was outright stronger than Wahl.

God Serena no diff 3 GOI and Jura, and then no diff'd a considerably stronger version of Gajeel than in Alverass arc.

God Serena scales considerably above every Spriggan except top 3.

 

[Yunkers]

and Juvia not being strong enough we’ve all read the manga long enough to know that doesn’t always matter

Juvia tends to get emotional fights anyway. So let's forget about power scalling and bring some tissues as you are going to cry.

 

[WoWfan]

Hold up.
It is just that GOD SERENA and be extension x792 Gildarts is a heavy benchmark. This doesn't extend to the average scrub Spriggan.

Remember that x792 Gajeel was a good match for Bradman and required the powerup only to bypass physical immunity basically. And that x792 healthy Laxus was outright stronger than Wahl.

God Serena no diff 3 GOI and Jura, and then no diff'd a considerably stronger version of Gajeel than in Alverass arc.

God Serena scales considerably above every Spriggan except top 3.

Correction on a few things, Gajeel got Stronger overall in that new form of his, not just to bypass immunity, his physical attacks that he managed to land earlier did little to no damage without Bloodman turning intangible. and even healthy Laxus could not put down Wall and required a different lightning and that lightning making him Stronger with the damage he received.

Hiro stated that Dimaria is the strongest standard Alvarez in an interview with Wall being the weakest.

 

[Steven]

Hold up.
It is just that GOD SERENA and be extension x792 Gildarts is a heavy benchmark. This doesn't extend to the average scrub Spriggan.

Remember that x792 Gajeel was a good match for Bradman and required the powerup only to bypass physical immunity basically. And that x792 healthy Laxus was outright stronger than Wahl.

God Serena no diff 3 GOI and Jura, and then no diff'd a considerably stronger version of Gajeel than in Alverass arc.

God Serena scales considerably above every Spriggan except top 3.

https://www.famitsu.com/article/202411/24613
Hiro himself put Dimaria in GS Tier.Its indeed debatable if the other SP12 are no benchmark anymore.But i have a hard time seeing Invel as fodder rn.