Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

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I Think Neinhart should be Considered a High Tier Spriggan If He Really Fights Jellal,Erza and Kagura alone.
I ranked Neinhart mid tier because I don't expect that he'd have such a dangerous type of magic as Di Maria or Jacob.

I don't think Dimaria without her Time ability should be considered a High Tier Spriggan.
I agree. In my opinion Di Maria is a high tier Spriggan because she can stop time. If she can't use it, I'd rank her mid tier.
 

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My Rankings
Top Tier
August
High Tier
Jacob
Invel(Personal aide of Zeref and Chief of Staff Of Entire Alvarez Army)
God Serena
Neinhart(If He Really Fight Jellal,erza and Kagura alone)
Mid Tier
Bradman(His Ranking may go Higher if He Shows More Feats)
Wahl
Brandish
Dimaria(With Her Age Seal She will be High Tier)
Low Tier
Ajeel
 
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Why does everyone put Jacob on high tier all of sudden? I want to know your analysis guys
 

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But ultear is the only mage that could nullify her age seal. Not a single mage would have been able to stop Dimaria save for that bullshit save by her. I gotta disagree and say shes high tier. Even Laxus would have lost to her if her Age Seal hadnt been tampered with.
I ranked Neinhart mid tier because I don't expect that he'd have such a dangerous type of magic as Di Maria or Jacob.



I agree. In my opinion Di Maria is a high tier Spriggan because she can stop time. If she can't use it, I'd rank her mid tier.
That's True but I Rank Them basing Them upon Their MP.Magic wise I Think Brandish's most Hax.She can destroy a Country by Herself.
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Why does everyone put Jacob on high tier all of sudden? I want to know your analysis guys
The Reasons:-
i)He was The General given in charge of One Million Army.Other Generals with The Similar Duty are August,Jacob,Invel and Zeref himself.Only A Strong and Experienced Spriggan will be given in charge of That Duty.
ii)After Seeing God Serena being One Shotted He attempted To Attack Acnologia.He had The Courage and probably consider himself Stronger than God Serena.
iii)His Feats and PowerLevel.
iv)Dangerous Magic as said by @BluePegasus

v)His Aura.
 

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Why does everyone put Jacob on high tier all of sudden? I want to know your analysis guys
Well, he gives the impression of being scary as he doesn't play around. When he talked about torturing Lucy, u are convinced that he will actually do it.U know, the reason why everyone is fascinated and scared of serial killers. I guess scary equals strong.

PLus the clap, what did he do, Mavis was totally taken aback. Actually, from the moment he walked in, he hasn't done anything wrong. all his moves have been to the point. From the chilling conversation, to quick execution of magic, then non-hesitant in torturing Mavis, immediately comprehending that Lucy can be used to make Mavis speak and deciding to torture her. moves of a professional killer.
 

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i)He was The General given in charge of One Million Army.Other Generals with The Similar Duty are August,Jacob,Invel and Zeref himself.Only A Strong and Experienced Spriggan will be given in charge of That Duty.
Where is this stated in manga?
 

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There is One Million Army From The West Coming.Check Chapter 455.Most Probably They are in camping in The Wasteland of Bosco.On The East Zeref and Invel is leading One Million Army.
Only once has this army of 1 million been mentioned to be in the east, the rest of the time the only one million army thats been mentioned has been the one to the west, which wasn't mentioned in chapter 455 where this one to the east was mentioned, so I'm thinking that the army of one million in the east doesn't actually exist as its only been mentioned once to the several times the west army of one million has been mentioned (or Hiro dun goofed on his directions and meant west), plus Jacob himself said they didn't have any Soldiers with them in Chapter 477, which is a pretty big contradiction if there ever was an army of one million with them at one point.
Chapter 456's cover, which has a map of the current situation, has the Eastern fleet being much smaller than the north fleet of 300 ships. An army of one million should easily be much bigger than a fleet of 300 ships, so I really think that it was only August, Serena and Jacob who were in the east. August is continually being hyped to be an incredible mage who is well respected among the Spriggan, and along with Serena and Jacob who are both very capable mages in their own rights, its not hard to believe three super-powerful Spriggans like them could tear through Bosco.
 

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Mystogan is not in the Alvarez arc. Plus he along with the guys from Edolas don't have any magic abilities except exceeds. Mystogan used those magic staffs he carried around. Use Jellal instead. He is just as strong and draws out his own magic power. Jellal should actually be stronger than those magic sticks Mystogan used. Same guy without the mask.

Will we ever see Gajeel's dragonforce? Can lacrima dragon slayers, Laxus and Cobra, go dragonforce?

@Crimson Ice You miscalculate Erza's strength severely. There was a lot of talk about that in this thread.
No I don't, EoS Erza is piss weak compared to the people now.
 

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Only once has this army of 1 million been mentioned to be in the east, the rest of the time the only one million army thats been mentioned has been the one to the west, which wasn't mentioned in chapter 455 where this one to the east was mentioned, so I'm thinking that the army of one million in the east doesn't actually exist as its only been mentioned once to the several times the west army of one million has been mentioned (or Hiro dun goofed on his directions and meant west), plus Jacob himself said they didn't have any Soldiers with them in Chapter 477, which is a pretty big contradiction if there ever was an army of one million with them at one point.
Chapter 456's cover, which has a map of the current situation, has the Eastern fleet being much smaller than the north fleet of 300 ships. An army of one million should easily be much bigger than a fleet of 300 ships, so I really think that it was only August, Serena and Jacob who were in the east. August is continually being hyped to be an incredible mage who is well respected among the Spriggan, and along with Serena and Jacob who are both very capable mages in their own rights, its not hard to believe three super-powerful Spriggans like them could tear through Bosco.
I agree. It will pretty strange if the army reaches after Jacob and AUgust have finished fighting.
 

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Only once has this army of 1 million been mentioned to be in the east, the rest of the time the only one million army thats been mentioned has been the one to the west, which wasn't mentioned in chapter 455 where this one to the east was mentioned, so I'm thinking that the army of one million in the east doesn't actually exist as its only been mentioned once to the several times the west army of one million has been mentioned (or Hiro dun goofed on his directions and meant west), plus Jacob himself said they didn't have any Soldiers with them in Chapter 477, which is a pretty big contradiction if there ever was an army of one million with them at one point.
Chapter 456's cover, which has a map of the current situation, has the Eastern fleet being much smaller than the north fleet of 300 ships. An army of one million should easily be much bigger than a fleet of 300 ships, so I really think that it was only August, Serena and Jacob who were in the east. August is continually being hyped to be an incredible mage who is well respected among the Spriggan, and along with Serena and Jacob who are both very capable mages in their own rights, its not hard to believe three super-powerful Spriggans like them could tear through Bosco.
But The Wiki also mentions There is Two Million Army Coming from both Directions.In This Chapter i.e. 477 Jaob mentions That He left Soldiers behind To Avoid Radar Detection.So We will have To See and wait If There is another Million in The East.What does CR Version of Chapter 455 Says ?
 
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August is clearly ahead of all. Ajeel, Wahl, God Serena and DiMaria are pretty much the same level to me. Age Seal for DiMaria is the only one that makes me think she might be above the male trio. Of the others this is my ranking...

1. Jacob
2. Brandish
3. Invel
4. Neihart
5. Bradman
6/7. Unnamed pair.

Why does everyone put Jacob on high tier all of sudden? I want to know your analysis guys
I'm of the opinion swagger buys an automatic tier upgrade. So does extreme beauty and charm ie Brandish :) Only feats can make them drop.
 

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No I don't, EoS Erza is piss weak compared to the people now.
At what point did the others surpass Erza? After the 7 year skip, Lyon was following Gray and Juvia. They fought together, and Lyon was lecturing Gray on every little thing. They both seemed about the same strength, except that Gray needed to catch up a bit. Gray and Juvia did beat Lyon and Chelia during the gmg because Lyon did not want to hurt Juvia, plus he kept on arguing with Chelia, which made it easy for ft mages to set up a big attack. That too proves Lyon and Gray are about the same strength. Natsu and Gray are in the same tier, and are as equal as it can get. Lyon and Gajeel are in their tier also, but just a hair behind. It would take Gray and Natsu everything they got and a bit extra, but could beat their ice or ds rivals.

So back to the point. Lyon gets whooped by Kagura and gets saved by the time limit during the gmg. Erza is in the same league as Kagura. Lyon is the same as Natsu, Gray, and Gajeel. Therefore Erza was still superior. What has you believing Natsu and the other ds have surpassed Erza in the Tartaros arc or the next time skip going into the avatar and Alvarez arcs. Erza had no problems with Kyoka, until that bs ability was used where Erza's senses were taken away, plus pain receptors were at maximum. The true strength of Erza is her mental and emotional fortitude. Nothing breaks her will to do what she wants. Having superior physical power and durability to match her unbreakable will.

Natsu is the mc, and will be the strongest but hasn't proven to be at the top yet. But when he is in dragonforce no one can touch him. Gray might match him if he's on his his demonforce. Only Acno and Zeref are far stronger than his half dragonforce transformation so far.
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Why does everyone put Jacob on high tier all of sudden? I want to know your analysis guys
Agreed. He comes in claps his hands and everyone is sent somewhere. He can sense Mavis. That's all that he's done so far. The rest is just intimidating talk. Plus wherever he sent ft guild members shouldn't be a problem. Cana and Mest were there. Cana can put them all in cards except Mest so that Mest can teleport them all back. Unless it's in a different dimension. But I'm having a hard time believing he moves as fast or has destructive power like the other spriggan. He's definitely not dressed to move fast. Throwing regular knives only to be melted when making contact with Natsu. It's just the beginning and I'm also not impressed from the impression he gave.
 

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I see that a lot of people place Natsu near the top of their power rankings, which isn't a surprise (though it's likely incorrect). Natsu is most likely going to Jacob next chapter, possibly with help from Lucy. Now, if (when) Natsu needs help from Lucy against Jacob, a consistent and logical response would be to say that Natsu is one tier below the Spriggans, yes? Not making !@#$ excuses that Jacob is super strong and just below August, right?
 

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I see that a lot of people place Natsu near the top of their power rankings, which isn't a surprise (though it's likely incorrect). Natsu is most likely going to Jacob next chapter, possibly with help from Lucy. Now, if (when) Natsu needs help from Lucy against Jacob, a consistent and logical response would be to say that Natsu is one tier below the Spriggans, yes? Not making !@#$ excuses that Jacob is super strong and just below August, right?
Where Natsu gets placed will depend on many things. His performance against Jacob, Jacob's performance/magic, and the level of assistance Lucy gives. If Jacob has something as hax as DiMaria then help might be necessary though Natsu being considered below because of this might not. If someone beats out Natsu in a straight up brawl then most definitely Natsu is below.

For now I have Natsu around the same as God Serena based on dragon slayer magic comparison. But will have to see how he performs against a Spriggan as well.
 

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I see that a lot of people place Natsu near the top of their power rankings, which isn't a surprise (though it's likely incorrect). Natsu is most likely going to Jacob next chapter, possibly with help from Lucy. Now, if (when) Natsu needs help from Lucy against Jacob, a consistent and logical response would be to say that Natsu is one tier below the Spriggans, yes? Not making !@#$ excuses that Jacob is super strong and just below August, right?
It depends on many things. For example in Tartaros Natsu had defeated Jackal alone, but later he needed help from Lucy to defeat Franmalth. Interesting is that Franmalth and Jackal were in the same level (it's confirmed in extra pages of manga), so Nastu became weaker during Tartaros arc.? Of course not, Natsu needed help, because Franmalth had ability to inactivate Natsu's spells. That's why we need to see the whole battle to judge how strong Natsu is. In my opinion base Natsu is a little weaker than Erza, so he need help to beat mid-strong Spriggan (like Ajeel or Wahl), but he may be stronger or weaker depending on what Jacob show, he may have some OP powers--like Dimaria (but Dimaria is also mid-strong, because when her Age Seal was deactivated, she didn't do anything impressive).
 
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I don't think Base Natsu is strong enough to take down a Spriggan. I'd rank Base Natsu as strong as Gajeel and Gray. I'd say that Base Natsu is slightly under Erza level. Since Erza couldn't take down a lower Spriggan tier, I can't see Natsu defeating a Spriggan who probably is mid/high tier (as mentioned by @Yunkers). Natsu probably need help from Lucy or DF to take Jacob down.

For now I have Natsu around the same as God Serena based on dragon slayer magic comparison. But will have to see how he performs against a Spriggan as well.
I need to disagree. God Serena possesses multiple types of Dragon Slayer Magic while Natsu uses one. The Flame Dragon Spell God Serena used looked as powerful as Natsu's stronger spells. God Serena can use more powerful spells like this with different elements.

Also, I can't see Natsu taking down the Four Gods of Ishgar like God Serena did. Laxus defeated Jura with high diff and he is only the 5th ranked Wizard Saint. Yeah, Laxus became stronger, but so did Jura.
 

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I see that a lot of people place Natsu near the top of their power rankings, which isn't a surprise (though it's likely incorrect). Natsu is most likely going to Jacob next chapter, possibly with help from Lucy. Now, if (when) Natsu needs help from Lucy against Jacob, a consistent and logical response would be to say that Natsu is one tier below the Spriggans, yes? Not making !@#$ excuses that Jacob is super strong and just below August, right?
1)No. 1 Thing is Jacob is a High Tier Spriggan.He and Ajeel or Wahl is not same.He is weaker Than August but He and may very well stronger or on The Level of God Serena.
2)There is a possiblity That Jellal,Erza and Kagura will Fight Neinhart.But will it make Jellal Weaker Than The Spriggans.The Answer is obvious.No.Not All Spriggans are of The Same Level.
3)We have To See How The Fight will go on.If Base Natsu+Lucy+Happy defeates Jacob Then There is no doubt That DF Natsu will solo Jacob.We have To The Spriggans Magic Too.Some of Their are Hax.Dimaria without The interference of Ultear will Solo Any Mage of Ishgar.
If Natsu uses DF against Jacob Then also it will make him stronger Than Ajeel or Jacob.
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I don't think Base Natsu is strong enough to take down a Spriggan. I'd rank Base Natsu as strong as Gajeel and Gray. I'd say that Base Natsu is slightly under Erza level. Since Erza couldn't take down a lower Spriggan tier, I can't see Natsu defeating a Spriggan who probably is mid/high tier (as mentioned by @Yunkers). Natsu probably need help from Lucy or DF to take Jacob down.



I need to disagree. God Serena possesses multiple types of Dragon Slayer Magic while Natsu uses one. The Flame Dragon Spell God Serena used looked as powerful as Natsu's stronger spells. God Serena can use more powerful spells like this with different elements.

Also, I can't see Natsu taking down the Four Gods of Ishgar like God Serena did. Laxus defeated Jura with high diff and he is only the 5th ranked Wizard Saint. Yeah, Laxus became stronger, but so did Jura.
But Bluepegasus I Think Alvarez Base Natsu proved To Be Stronger Than Erza.In Alvarez Natsu had easily burnt The Ant Pit where Erza couldn't do anything.
 

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But Bluepegasus I Think Alvarez Base Natsu proved To Be Stronger Than Erza.In Alvarez Natsu had easily burnt The Ant Pit where Erza couldn't do anything.
But in the end Erza is the one who defeated Ajeel, not Natsu. We also have to remember that in Tartaros Erza defeated mid-tier demon while Natsu defeated low-tier demon (Kyoka's stats are around 2500, Jackal's stats are about 1500), also Natsu couldn't do anything against Silver (he was one-shotted), who is around Kyoka's level. So, in my opinion, it's not possible that Natsu was stronger than Erza in Tartaros arc. Of course Natsu is stronger now, but Erza is also stronger, but difference between them is minimal though.
 

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But in the end Erza is the one who defeated Ajeel, not Natsu. We also have to remember that in Tartaros Erza defeated mid-tier demon while Natsu defeated low-tier demon (Kyoka's stats are around 2500, Jackal's stats are about 1500), also Natsu couldn't do anything against Silver (he was one-shotted), who is around Kyoka's level. So, in my opinion, it's not possible that Natsu was stronger than Erza in Tartaros arc. Of course Natsu is stronger now, but Erza is also stronger, but difference between them is minimal though.
I will like To point Out Two or Three Things.
First,Tartaros Arc.We know That Natsu as He is a Demon ,Has lot of Etherious Particles in His Body.So That's Why IDES might have worked on Natsu.Please Don't Remind Me of Erza VS Kyouka Fight.That Fight had received lot of Criticism.But We Should Remember One Thing.Igneel had left Natsu's Body.He Recieved a Boost because of it.We also had seen He can Now activate DF according to his wish now.After That He Trained for a Year which can only be compared with laxus.We until now have no confirmation Erza Trained Like That.So Very Much Natsu may have surpassed her in her base State.
Now We consider Natsu VS Ajeel and Erza VS Ajeel in Alvarez Empire.Erza had hurled Few Swords at Ajeel which had all been Turned into Sand.(Result Total Failure)
Natsu had burnt The Ant Pit where Erza couldn't do anything.He gave a Good Punch Which Ajeel himeslf admitted He had not Recieved Such a Strong Punch For a long Time.(Result Impressive)
After That He activated His Mumifying Attack Where Makarov Grabbed him and Prevented us From seeing What Natsu would have Fared against Ajeel.
Now Team Natsu were Fleeing and None of Them had Showed His Real Power So We can't know The Depth of Their Power.But Still based on Their Performance against Ajeel I Conclude Natsu in his Base State Would have defeated Ajeel.
Now We See Erza VS Ajeel Fight in Magnolia
Erza was no match for Ajeel.Her only Feat Was Blowing away Ajeel's Sand with Her Wind Empress Armour.Even After That Ajeel Continued To Dominate Her.When Natsu punched Bakeel Ajeel was distracted When Erza landed a Deadly Blow on Ajeel.Even after That He Nearly killed Erza.It was only with The Help Of Bisca She Was able To Defeat him.Otherwise Ajeel would have killed her.
 

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How Natsu stacks up against the Spriggans will depend on how he does against Jacob. When it comes to hand to hand combat Natsu is most likely to do the actual heavy lifting. Also, judging by Jacob's title and the title of the next chapter, Jacob's abilities are probably going to have to do with stealth and sneaking around. I imagine Lucy's role in this fight would be to help find a way to force Jacob into the open so that Natsu can brawl it out with him. How much help Lucy gives Natsu would help determine how Natsu stacks up to Erza. I think it's safe to say that Lucy probably doesn't have many attacks that rival Jupiter cannon. So if Lucy's role is just calling out Jacob's location or tagging him once or twice with star-dress, then that's probably less assistance than Jupiter.
 
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