Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Hermit]

Also, I forgot to mention this , but I disagree that Natsu was weaker than Jackal and couldn't defeat any of the nine demon gates one on one.

He can't:
-Silver would one shot him (Well that already happened)
-Sayla would use Macro on him and have him choke himself
-Torafuzar would use Tenchi Kaimei and knock him out (Well that already happened)
-Kyouka uses Sensation Curse and increases his level of pain, Natsu doesnt have a high pain threshold like Erza to survive all that damage
-Natsu can't even go near Ezel since he would get sliced up by Five Peerless Swords and Ogre Circle
-Keyes is intangible so Natsu can't beat him

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I've never seen Wendy heal someone to the point where they were without a single injury in the same way Zeref can heal himself.

Healing Jellal after he was bathed in Etherion? He was full health afterward and even proceeded to go and look for Nirvana to destroy it personally..
Wendy's healing is flawless man

 

[~Charging Lightning~]

He can't:
-Silver would one shot him (Well that already happened)
-Sayla would use Macro on him and have him choke himself
-Torafuzar would use Tenchi Kaimei and knock him out (Well that already happened)
-Kyouka uses Sensation Curse and increases his level of pain, Natsu doesnt have a high pain threshold like Erza to survive all that damage
-Natsu can't even go near Ezel since he would get sliced up by Five Peerless Swords and Ogre Circle
-Keyes is intangible so Natsu can't beat him

I wasn't talking about the other Demon gates. Only the ones he fought. I already agree with most of what you're saying here. Only thing I disagree with is your point on Ezel though. Natsu doesn't need to get close to his opponents to fight them.

 

[Hermit]

Also, where are you going with this "lightning is weak to fire"?

Laxus vs Atlas Flame, Freed raised it as a point as to why Laxus was a bad match up for Atlas:

Spoiler: Laxus vs Atlas Flame

 

[Axiomus]

Healing Jellal after he was bathed in Etherion? He was full health afterward and even proceeded to go and look for Nirvana to destroy it personally..
Wendy's healing is flawless man

Like I said, even if I had missed one instance of Wendy fully healing someone, the point was that she didn't fully heal Natsu in his battle against Jackal.
And there are tonnes of instances in which she never fully heal someone else as well. Like when she and Chelia healed Lucy, or even Carla. It's far from flawless. And with Jellal, he lost all of his memories, so there was probably some brain damage. :P

Laxus vs Atlas Flame, Freed raised it as a point as to why Laxus was a bad match up for Atlas:

Spoiler: Laxus vs Atlas Flame

Atlas Flame burned away everyone's magic, not just Laxus'. Jackal is no Atlas Flame.

 

[Demon Hunter]

he burns down every magic not only Lightning. he specifically says every magic. its no surprise because Atlas is a pure creature of Hell Fire.

 

[Axiomus]

it burns down every magic not only Lightning. he specifically says every magic. its no surprise because Atlas is a pure creature of Hell Fire.

Really, Atlas Flame is a dragon. I wouldn't be surprised if he burned away a water dragon slayer's power if the slayer was on the same level as Laxus.

 

[Char]

Really, Atlas Flame is a dragon. I wouldn't be surprised if he burned away a water dragon slayer's power if the slayer was on the same level as Laxus.

Hard to compare a dragon to a high tier mage of the current arc. Back in the GMG, the strongest people who fought dragons were Jura, Laxus or Makarov and couldn't do anything to them...

Now power inflation is too great that Jura couldn't even put on a scratch on Serena. Which means it's likely Jura wouldn't be able to put on a scratch on Laxus. So, the performance of Jura vs Laxus would be similar to Jura vs a GMG dragon...

I'd say that current high tiers are on the level of GMG dragons, if not above.

 

[Hermit]

It's far from flawless. And with Jellal, he lost all of his memories, so there was probably some brain damage. :P

LMAO take my money, but what made Jellal lose his memories was that Ultear had rescinded her control over him so he went back to how he was as a kid, remember he was brain controlled by Ultear all that time and from what we've seen of mind control in this series is that the victim usually has no recollection of what happened afterwards..

Atlas Flame burned away everyone's magic, not just Laxus'.

It still was a bad match up, and fire is lightning's weakness according to Air Gear:P

 

[Axiomus]

Hard to compare a dragon to a high tier mage of the current arc. Back in the GMG, the strongest people who fought dragons were Jura, Laxus or Makarov and couldn't do anything to them...

Now power inflation is too great that Jura couldn't even put on a scratch on Serena. Which means it's likely Jura wouldn't be able to put on a scratch on Laxus. So, the performance of Jura vs Laxus would be similar to Jura vs a GMG dragon...

I'd say that current high tiers are on the level of GMG dragons, if not above.

I was talking about GMG level Laxus.

LMAO take my money, but what made Jellal lose his memories was that Ultear had rescinded her control over him so he went back to how he was as a kid, remember he was brain controlled by Ultear all that time and from what we've seen of mind control in this series is that the victim usually has no recollection of what happened afterwards..

If that were the case, he wouldn't have remembered it later on. Since when do people no have recollection after being mind controlled? Chapter 1, Lucy was charmed. When she broke free of it, she still knew what was going on. Atlas Flame was mind controlled by Rogue as well. We didn't see him forget anything.

 

[Boomburst]

LMAO take my money, but what made Jellal lose his memories was that Ultear had rescinded her control over him so he went back to how he was as a kid, remember he was brain controlled by Ultear all that time and from what we've seen of mind control in this series is that the victim usually has no recollection of what happened afterwards..

It still was a bad match up, and fire is lightning's weakness according to Air Gear:P

Was it ever stated that Ultear was literally controlling him? I thought it was just her pretending to be Zeref and influencing his decisions that way.

 

[Demon Hunter]

Really, Atlas Flame is a dragon. I wouldn't be surprised if he burned away a water dragon slayer's power if the slayer was on the same level as Laxus.

yeah, lol. I mean, as far as I know lightning is stronger than fire in real life. even if we compare heat, lightning is hotter than the surface of the Sun. other mangas have different rules so it doesn't count here. Atlas Flame is a bad match up for everyone.

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Was it ever stated that Ultear was literally controlling him? I thought it was just her pretending to be Zeref and influencing his decisions that way.

she was just manipulating him and that's it.

 

[Hermit]

If that were the case, he wouldn't have remembered it later on. Since when do people no have recollection after being mind controlled?

Shadow with Rogue?
Yuri with Tenrou Jade?

 

[Axiomus]

Shadow with Rogue?
Yuri with Tenrou Jade?

But Jellal wasn't possessed by a shadow nor turned into spirit inhabiting a dragon bone statue, was he?
He was manipulated by Ultear who convinced him that Zeref's ghost was going to bring him freedom.

 

[Boomburst]

Shadow with Rogue?
Yuri with Tenrou Jade?

I don't remember much about Yuri and Tenrou Jade, but Rogue's situation was not a case of mind control. He wasn't being manipulated, he was being possessed and the shadow had taken full control. That's not the same thing as twisting someone's thoughts and making them think things they normally wouldn't. Think of it like Keyes and his corpses. The corpses weren't being mind controlled, they were being possessed by Keyes's curse.

Edit: now that I think about it I don't remember everything about Keyes either so feel free to correct me if my analogy is incorrect :P

 

[The President]

what percent of power did Edo Tensei Serena have? Seems like it could have been under half, but we know that Serena was nowhere close to his potential, if Gildarts is telling the truth.

He was probably at around half his regular power, maybe a little more or maybe a little less. We don't even know if he was defeated yet, even though its somewhat implied.

Yes. Carla can also beat a low tier spriggan because she can fly and see the future. Because Happy doesn't just fly, but eats a lot of fish, which is high in protein, he should be able to at least beat one of the top three spriggan. He showed great flying ability when he stopped Jacob from using his teleport so you can't refute this feat. Warren can communicate with everyone so that should put him near dragon level. Sorry I wasn't born yesterday. So naive.

Explain to me what the actual hell you this has anything to do with what I said LMAO.

• Strawman Fallacy
• Ad Hominem
• Irrelevant Conclusion Fallacy

If your going to try and bait me, at least make it subtle. This is about the most flawed bait I have ever seen. And yet it somehow works because I took it XD.

Natsu wasn't stronger than Jackal, the two fought to a draw and if it wasn't Happy's interference Natsu would have been toast along with the rest of the town, Jackal was a level above Natsu in Tartaros.

Natsu crushed him with LFD though, even when Jackal when full power.

Happy is a gag character. its kinda ridiculous to say he survived that Kamikaze attack or that he survived anything. he is pure gag character.

This. Don't see why people take Happy's feats as legitimate. Dude overpowered a bloodlusted IgnNatsu going in for the finishing blow on Zeref.

 

[Woodenstool]

But it was.



Tartaros Glidartz casually busted a mountain, doesn't mean he can bust mountains casually as in, an array of mountain busting punches.

So, you're Mashima to tell us about that move mechanisms... could it be seen from a mile away, or from 1759 meters?



That was not even shown in the main Fairy Tail manga but on a spinoff, plus you're comparing PRE TENROU Glidartz to Irene...




Glidartz didn't even fight, he didn't even blink and he was ripped off. Irene did fight him though. Also, comparing pre tenrou Glidartz to Irene after the massive power inflation...



That wasn't even canon

"Gildarts doesn't have flash speed"
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/496/7

 

[Char]

"Gildarts doesn't have flash speed"
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/496/7

Strawhat falacy?

Never said he doesn't, I said it's not in the main manga. And you were talking about pre-Tenrou Gildartz not current Gildartz

 

[~Charging Lightning~]

Fastest characters in the series?

0. Happy at max speed
1. Acnologia
2. Jellal
3. Laxus

Well, after seeing the wise words of @Woodenstool I'll need to update my list:

0. Gildarts (apparently him headbutting Serena makes him comparable speed wise to a guy that can break the sound barrier).
1. Happy
2. Acnologia
3. Jellal
4. Laxus

Also, anyone else see a 7 page thread called "God Serena's Power Level" that redirects you to this thread?

 

[Dranzer]

Also, anyone else see a 7 page thread called "God Serena's Power Level" that redirects you to this thread?

Yeah the thread was made before this one but since it fits a bit more to fit the topic into Alvarez Power Rankings Miss Mr (you happy now @atomic_2000 ) @Brandish probably merged the thread into this one.

 

[Static]

Yeah the thread was made before this one but since it fits a bit more to fit the topic into Alvarez Power Rankings Miss @Brandish probably merged the thread into this one.

Brandish is a male if I'm not wrong :P

"Gildarts doesn't have flash speed"
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/496/7

How does that even look like FLASH speed to you?! They're literally just colliding their heads o_O!

What's up with everyone listing happy as fastest character?

Eh just a joke. We all know fastest character is me Acnologia and not Happy lol.

Fastest character? Mira and cancer is faster than jellal

Mira faster than Jellal? How exactly ? And no way Cancer lol.