Gray can destroy Jacob and Neinhart. its not that hard to be none existent Spriggan tier, considering that Jacob' and Neinhart' stats are thrash. only Jacob has some decent durability but that's it. even that is debatable.
Let's not forget Jacob was getting a bit damaged by Lucy, indicating his ridiculously low durability. That and without Transport, he is literally nothing.
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Although Natsu only managed to burn Zeref's magic with Igneel's flames. And Zeref was not even serious. But anyways, we can discuss this in the Power Ranking thread if you want.
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Well Gray in DeS obviously has the feats to blitz a Spriggan and hurt him so I also think he is Spriggan tier.
Will GRAY's darkness / evilness be strong than NATSU's / END's darkness? .......Moreover , if just single handedly GRAY was going to defeat END, Mashima would have brought END much earlier...Not only GRAY , HAPPY & LUCY will play an important part in bringing NATSU back to his senses after his transformation.
That's very less likely to happen considering Gray's effectiveness and magic shows he's definitely a match for END, and possibly can kick his ass, and foreshadowing is far greater for him to defeat END (stated by Invel himself) rather than the other way around.
No , the so called DeS or the ace in the hole is not surely going to work....INVEL wants GRAY to defeat.It is not surity GRAY will defeat....And , about the effectiveness , it will not work if END is much stronger than EVIL GRAY........Even ULTEAR wanted GRAY to defeat HADES...It was the 6 of them including LAXUS main being NATSU.
Well, to be fair, we're still talking about base Natsu here. If Natsu goes in with FDK mode, I doubt Invel would have nearly as easy as a time freezing over Natsu's flames. I'm assuming the difference in heat between base mode and FDK mode is similar to the difference in damage. Also, I'm assuming that Natsu's body wasn't frozen solid through (much like Mavis wasn't), or at least his brain wasn't, because he would have to have been conscious to be able to use magic to melt away the ice. Attacking Natsu whilst he's frozen wouldn't necessarily shatter him, though you can argue that Invel would be able to land free hits whilst he's frozen.
Personally I don't think there is a large power difference between the Spriggans other than August, Irene, and Invel. Ajeel's, Jacob's, or Neinhart's durability should be no worse than someone like Brandish' or Invel's. Certain Spriggans have above average durability due to the nature of their magic enhancing their physical constitution like Dimaira or God Serena. Certain Spriggans have magic better suited for brawling like Wahl and God Serena. Certain Spriggans rely on what Mashima calls "cheat magic" to avoid direct confrontations in combat like Dimaria or Jacob.
Not necessarily. The attack didn't seem to do any major damage on Jacob, and a small amount of bruising happens to the best of characters. Ajeel was slightly bruised when Natsu punched him and Dimaria was slightly bruised when Wendy and Chelia kicked her. I don't see those attacks as being particuarly noteworthy, and the damage they dealt didn't really take away the impressiveness for the Spriggans.
To be sure, Natsu didn't tank all of the attack. He negated the what I will assume to be the majority of the attack, and was able to endure the amount that he couldn't negate. That's why Happy, Lucy, and presumably Mest all survived the encounter. I think this falls into the same category as Gray resisting Invel's attempts to freeze him.
Why do you believe it's not going to work? What makes you believe it isn't? Invel said Gray is the one to defeat END, he didn't mention his preferences.
I know You do not like LUCY....But then tell me when will LUCY play her part rather than currently here in END's part?....excluding ZEREF's defeat.
Natsu didn't evaporate an entire, his BDKM with Igneels flames didn't even melt rock and the radius is not as large as the lake.
No , we will see even a much stronger NATSU in the story.....His END transformation which will give him a boost if he will learn to control his demon form...
END form? End is Natsu, if Zeref wanted to die and Natsu had a stronger power to kill him he would've activitied it. And if Mard Geer was right, END feeds off the enptiness of magic which can never happen since FACE is gone.
Really now , I m biased .....I said NATSU might have covered his body in flame-cover..Have u never watched NATSU's body on fire?......INVEL froze the area.Similarly, NATSU melted the ice in blizzard....
Acnologia demolished thousands of dragons, Natsu isn't even able to beat a dragon with his time skip power.
For the amount of development and timeskips we've gotten, Natsu is still really weak for an MC of a Shonen. I'm expecting him to turn into some Vasto Lorde type demon with END, then attain a much higher base power than before
Once again , u r assuming...I told NATSU motivated others after they were afraid of HADES magic.....
I never said he wouldn't come out on top, I'm just saying he's far from the strongest at this point
oh I know you never said that. I'm speaking in general. I mean, its pretty obvious that he will be the strongest guy at the end of this manga. if he doesn't then I will be shocked. I might as well die from that shock.
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hahaha
Wtf am I assuming?