Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[WoWfan]

It was not really a fight, that would mean that he had a chance of victory by himself which he hadn’t

 

[King Moe]

Spoiler: For chapter 22 of the 100 year quest

Since Natsu burned his arms the same way he did to defeat Zeref, guess we got idea of what happened and that his E.N.D. side and possibly Dragon side play in beating Zeref combine with his Savage Flames to burned away. Which kinda make sense since Lucy rework the book to save him after Zeref pierce his chest and heal himself from it, so kinda implied the book did affect his power to defeating Zeref. Guess we can no longer say it was 'base' Natsu damaging him, but another stage of power flames being as hot to the latest chapter.

This also put Fairy Heart Zeref at 'half' power of Dragon God, so guess he wasn't as strong or stronger than Acnologia before and after the Time Rift which kinda obvious since Acnologia is final boss of original series.

 

[Arjuna]

Spoiler: For chapter 22 of the 100 year quest

Since Natsu burned his arms the same way he did to defeat Zeref, guess we got idea of what happened and that his E.N.D. side and possibly Dragon side play in beating Zeref combine with his Savage Flames to burned away. Which kinda make sense since Lucy rework the book to save him after Zeref pierce his chest and heal himself from it, so kinda implied the book did affect his power to defeating Zeref. Guess we can no longer say it was 'base' Natsu damaging him, but another stage of power flames being as hot to the latest chapter.

This also put Fairy Heart Zeref at 'half' power of Dragon God, so guess he wasn't as strong or stronger than Acnologia before and after the Time Rift which kinda obvious since Acnologia is final boss of original series.

It's still illogical.FH Zeref was said to have infinite magic, infinite is infinite.However strong Natsu might be it's still finite.[/spoiler]

 

[King Moe]

It's still illogical.FH Zeref was said to have infinite magic, infinite is infinite.However strong Natsu might be it's still finite.

Though E.N.D. was design to kill him regardless what his powers is so if it have a hand in it, then make sense how Natsu beat him even infinite especially if Lucy wrote something to overcome that.

 

[Arjuna]

Though E.N.D. was design to kill him regardless what his powers is so if it have a hand in it, then make sense how Natsu beat him even infinite especially if Lucy wrote something to overcome that.

No it was not,it was never stated END could defeat Zeref let alone FH Zeref.It was all a misconception of Mard Geer.Zeref in his final fight even commented END couldn't kill him.

 

[King Moe]

No it was not,it was never stated END could defeat Zeref let alone FH Zeref.It was all a misconception of Mard Geer.Zeref in his final fight even commented END couldn't kill him.

Wasn't it because Natsu wasn't using his demonic powers? He looks to be doing it this chapter and could explain beating Zeref as he did fight after book was use to heal him.

 

[Arjuna]

Wasn't it because Natsu wasn't using his demonic powers? He looks to be doing it this chapter and could explain beating Zeref as he did fight after book was use to heal him.

END wasn't that strong that time to defeat Zeref.

 

[Axiomus]

The version of END that fought Gray was far too weak to have beaten Zeref, much less Fairy Heart Zeref. The most current version of Natsu could probably do it, though it's unclear just how much influence END's power has on Natsu. Natsu seemed pretty in control and was even giving a nakama speech earlier in the fight, but then he seemed to lose it after he defeated Mercfovia.

 

[King Moe]

The version of END that fought Gray was far too weak to have beaten Zeref, much less Fairy Heart Zeref. The most current version of Natsu could probably do it, though it's unclear just how much influence END's power has on Natsu. Natsu seemed pretty in control and was even giving a nakama speech earlier in the fight, but then he seemed to lose it after he defeated Mercfovia.

END wasn't that strong that time to defeat Zeref.

That's why I said it combine with everything with his Dragon Seed and Savage Flanges to get the job done. Plus don't think we ever seen E.N.D. full power before at all. Seems like Natsu was slowly transforming into it.

 

[Arjuna]

That's why I said it combine with everything with his Dragon Seed and Savage Flanges to get the job done. Plus don't think we ever seen E.N.D. full power before at all. Seems like Natsu was slowly transforming into it.

It's still illogical,Zeref had ∞ magic power,so however strong Natsu might have been he shouldn't have won it.

 

[King Moe]

It's still illogical,Zeref had ∞ magic power,so however strong Natsu might have been he shouldn't have won it.

Zeref would made something in him counter that. After all he also immortal and already had infinite power with Black Arts, so think it works through that. After all, he wouldn't be confident if for a long time that Natsu can't kill him.

 

[Arjuna]

Zeref would made something in him counter that.

Okay this statement doesn't make any sense sorry to say.Zeref never knew something like FH would come to existence,he only met Mavis 300 years after he sent Natsu to future after thinking END cannot kill him so focusing on his DS Power.


So it is impossible for him to make a counter in END against FH.

 

[King Moe]

Okay this statement doesn't make any sense sorry to say.Zeref never knew something like FH would come to existence,he only met Mavis 300 years after he sent Natsu to future after thinking END cannot kill him so focusing on his DS Power.


So it is impossible for him to make a counter in END against FH.

What you mean? He find out about FH later on in the years to come prior to the start of the series.

Pretty sure he said that cause Natsu was a little kid and that's why he did it to make him grow up until he was strong enough to do it.

If he made to counter his already OP magic before FH, pretty sure it relates to what END can do already over it.

 

[Arjuna]

What you mean? He find out about FH later on in the years to come prior to the start of the series.

Pretty sure he said that cause Natsu was a little kid and that's why he did it to make him grow up until he was strong enough to do it.

If he made to counter his already OP magic before FH, pretty sure it relates to what END can do already over it.

Didn't you mean by this

Zeref would made something in him counter that

That Zeref created something in END to counter FH's infinite magic power?

 

[LaGOAT]

Lets end this END wouldn’t be enough to take down zeref the only way is POF when natsu is in POF he is the strongest in the verse

 

[Xaos sama]

"August is the only mage we seen him have trouble with."

Lol what? Um Neinhart oneshotted him, and August stomped his butt into the floor. Oracion Seis took him out of commission for a week with just 4 of them a year prior. Jellal was never at the level where he never was once without trouble within the manga.

A year later and Jellal hasn't even creeped past DiMaria let alone August lol. He hasn't shown anything to say he powered up within the year either.

Zeref could've always done that. That's why the premise of the Alvarez war was dumb in the first place. No one on Ishgar besides Plot Force Natsu could've beaten Zeref. Zeref easily could've teleported in the guild and death wave them to kill them all. Heck several S12 could have merk the entire guild. That's why the Alvarez was such a sham arc.

Acnologia is the bar for the Dragon Gods. RoT Acnologia is confirmed to be stronger than DGs as the DGs were only stronger than Acno before he got the boost. There's probably only one DG among this bunch who can rival or is actually stronger than Acno but the others are not above him as of now.

Jko, your arguments when it comes to jellal are always biased to a whole different level, you look at every angle so you could make him look fodder tier where clearly the manga stats a different story:
Neinhart's attack haven't got any damage on him & lost his consciousness becaus he drowned, that's why he quickly got back after kagura performed the first aid. Cana onshotted brandish with just a jar, does that says anything?
The whole rustyrose story was an anime-made filler, it wasn't shown in the manga.
any fairy tail manga reader would understands that there's no caster-type mage who could do better against August, his nullification ability make them all powereless and useless.

Jellal only fought Acnologia because he had POF and plot armour.

Without those 2 elements Jellal would have got torn into 2 pieces by Acnologia before he can even do something.

Well yes, but everyone from the good guys side has those two elements on their side, right?

the fact that jellal blocked a god tier's attack that said his power rival even the dragon gods and managed to pushes him twice both human and dragon forms puts him above any spriggan that isn't august&eileen, God serena himself got killed from just a touch & new feats like Pleiades & Jiu Leixing were impressive.

 

[Arjuna]

Jko, your arguments when it comes to jellal are always biased to a whole different level, you look at every angle so you could make him look fodder tier where clearly the manga stats a different story:
Neinhart's attack haven't got any damage on him & lost his consciousness becaus he drowned, that's why he quickly got back after kagura performed the first aid. Cana onshotted brandish with just a jar, does that says anything?
The whole rustyrose story was an anime-made filler, it wasn't shown in the manga.
any fairy tail manga reader would understands that there's no caster-type mage who could do better against August, his nullification ability make them all powereless and useless.



Well yes, but everyone from the good guys side has those two elements on their side, right?

the fact that jellal blocked a god tier's attack that said his power rival even the dragon gods and managed to pushes him twice both human and dragon forms puts him above any spriggan that isn't august&eileen, God serena himself got killed from just a touch & new feats like Pleiades & Jiu Leixing were impressive.

Did I say others didn't have it?

Anything against Acnologia whether you include Jellal or 7 DS were filled with POF.In a logical fight none of them would survive a minute.


Leave alone anything else his immense speed (which speed blitzed August) is enough to kill them assuming he uses that speed.


P.S. you seem to have edited the Quote part of my post and that's why I didn't get the notification.

 

[Jko]

Jko, your arguments when it comes to jellal are always biased to a whole different level, you look at every angle so you could make him look fodder tier where clearly the manga stats a different story:
Neinhart's attack haven't got any damage on him & lost his consciousness becaus he drowned, that's why he quickly got back after kagura performed the first aid. Cana onshotted brandish with just a jar, does that says anything?
The whole rustyrose story was an anime-made filler, it wasn't shown in the manga.
any fairy tail manga reader would understands that there's no caster-type mage who could do better against August, his nullification ability make them all powereless and useless.



Well yes, but everyone from the good guys side has those two elements on their side, right?

the fact that jellal blocked a god tier's attack that said his power rival even the dragon gods and managed to pushes him twice both human and dragon forms puts him above any spriggan that isn't august&eileen, God serena himself got killed from just a touch & new feats like Pleiades & Jiu Leixing were impressive.

Nah, they are perfectly accurate. Y'all Jellal fans overhype Jellal like he's a top tier or something. The post I quoted just try to say Jellal was creeping on August and you're talking about me?

How the hell does a conscious man drown??? You make zero sense. He got hit and then he was unconcious. He drown due to being unconscious.

That was presented as a gag while the other wasn't.

The Rusty story was put in the same way as the Laxus story. Jellal was put in critical condition either way after fighting OS in the manga.

Any logical FT fan would know Jellal gets clapped by any high tier let alone top tier character.

Blocked an attack by Acno? Good grief, you think he can do that without plot force? Jellal never pushed Acno in Dragon form. And no, without PIS Jellal would have been God Serena-ed. Put your bias away and you'd clearly see that. Erza couldn't do crap to a half power Dragon God with Dragon Slaying magic yet in the final fight she completely knocked Acno out of the sky. Clearly without Plot BS they can not survive against a god tier.

 

[Axiomus]

Nah, they are perfectly accurate. Y'all Jellal fans overhype Jellal like he's a top tier or something. The post I quoted just try to say Jellal was creeping on August and you're talking about me?

Any logical FT fan would know Jellal gets clapped by any high tier let alone top tier character.

What exactly would constitute as a top tier and high tier according to you? Just to get an idea of where you think Jellal stands.

 

[Jko]

What exactly would constitute as a top tier and high tier according to you? Just to get an idea of where you think Jellal stands.

Top tier is level I placed a notch or two under God tier. They can't beaten by anyone lower than Top tier within a fight. High tier I breakdown into three different sections since some characters of the high tier section don't belong in the mid tier section but the top of the high tier section are like broken but not broken enough to contend with the Top tier.

I think Jellal is within the Lower spectrum of High tier. Might edge into mid-high if I give him the benefit of doubt.