Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[aymen24]

can't move doesn't mean his durability dropped.

He can't move
Or he uses magic
what will he do....
He was just an ordinary person at the time in my opinion
And also that was the only chance to defeat him

But the strange thing is that he had no scratch or blood on his face or body after this attack

He died without any scratch in the last arc

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Rot of Savage Emotions

Good think Natsu wasn't water mage. Then Zeref would have won and we wouldn't see this great panel.

 

[Demon Hunter]

He can't move
Or he uses magic
what will he do....
He was just an ordinary person at the time in my opinion
And also that was the only chance to defeat him

he couldn't use his abilities nor block, doesn't mean his durability was 0.

I mean, I feel you but I cannot really take it as face value sadly unless Hiro answers that.

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But the strange thing is that he had no scratch or blood on his face or body after this attack

He died without any scratch in the last arc

and yeah, Acno dying without a scratch was something else

 

[Axiomus]

he couldn't use his abilities nor block, doesn't mean his durability was 0.

I mean, I feel you but I cannot really take it as face value sadly unless Hiro answers that.

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and yeah, Acno dying without a scratch was something else

Maybe what took out Acno wasn't even the punch. Maybe Acnologia just decided to shatter himself after hearing Natsu's speech.

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

and yeah, Acno dying without a scratch was something else

His durability got infected with the Curse of contradiction after eating time lapse. Timelapse was a byproduct of Zeref's eclipse gate after all.

 

[Demon Hunter]

His durability got infected with the Curse of contradiction after eating time lapse. Timelapse was a byproduct of Zeref's eclipse gate after all.

Plot Twist - Spriggans were infected by Zeref so they were trash

 

[aymen24]

I don't think Mashima knows this

I mean, when you see Mashima say Natsu is the one who defeated him ( in the sequel)

Other details................ without meaning

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Plot Twist - Spriggans were infected by Zeref so they were trash

Irene, August, Brandish were all prime examples of it. They were all affected by Zeref charisma I think like that fodder from Avatar that wanted to torture Lucy.

 

[Livinbreathineatin]

She was not weakened, from what i remember.

Elfman and Ever sucker punched her.

 

[Takuan]

Elfman and Ever sucker punched her.

... Really now?

 

[GL_Nova]

First i am comparing previous arcs not this one
So not using yeah

Why were she commenting on laxus power, if all laxus could do was exhaust her?
After overpowering her didnt laxus say stop holding back?
What happened after that statement. Did laxus overpower her again
Did erza blitz laxus twice when she was holding back?

Elfman at the moment is damaging mademole, right? Are you sure his attack power is weak.

Is it stated anywhere that ajeel is the weakest.
Laxus attack power is comparable to jellal (and people hate me for saying it to erza as well)
Back before the first time skip
Jellal gc did as much damage to natsu as laxus roar did. I dont see why laxus will improve more than jellal. I am gonna have to assume jellal attack power is still around laxus level. And unlike laxus roar which has been downgraded jellal gc hasnt been. So how can i conclude laxus casual attack above jellal serious attack. Lol i have a feeling you blocked half the pannel when laxus killed wahl. That is example pof ( yes laxus used pof)


So how do i scale.laxus defeating wahl with pof and then fighting hades
And compare it to erza
Erza vs ajeel did not have pof (laxus comes above here)
And irene is as above wahl as gmg jura was above gmg rufus (?)

Gray with pof fuked up invel ( invel had full defense on)
Laxus with pof killed wahl (but with possibility of lightening weakness for wahl, he also went full retarded)
Laxus attack power seems to.be comparable to gray.

When was laxus consistently compared to gildarts. I think around twice only. And mostly jura caused that problem.
Meaning dont take hype seriously. Why should i consider jura hype to be any more reliable than other hype. It just create suspense. Nothing more.

What
Hades didnt praise him. Beside hades only came across wrecked fairy tail mages.
Markarov pretty much thought erza can take laxus in ff arc
Zeref never praised laxus either
August is wrong for the reason i told you

Well atleast he finished ff arc fight between laxus vs erza. Mishma never showed us who would win then. Glad that is settled



Is that performance or strength
Performance
Alverzec erza takes out an average springgan, leaves another springgan useless and fuks up jura of that arc
Compared to laxus who kills one average springgan and defeat a historia

How is laxus performance better?

Tartarus laxus takes out one average deman gate in a stomp
Erza takes out demon Minerva and the strongest demon gate with another demon gates power and on steroids

How is laxus performance better?

Gmg laxus takes out a fodder guild
Gmg pre SO erza takes out wizard saint tier monster plus 99 other monster which made her beat jura in that task

How is laxus performance better?

Gmg laxus takes out the strongest opponent
Gmg erza takes out the next two strongest opponent

This one laxus performance can be considered above or equal to erza

Tenrou laxus 5 second of fame vs erza what five conflicts. In one where she saving everyone life. Yeah no


You are just serious baised man. Tenrou erza fought so much more. I mean five conflicts. Laxus literally just tried to.whale on hades and blitz him once. The moment hades started to fight laxus was out

Gmg they are comparable
But of course if you believe in just laxus hype you will get some silly result like
Hype wise
Jura > mira + erza
Erza = kagura

Featwise kagura gets dehyped
So erza = kagura + Minerva
Which means
Jura > kagura + minerva + kagura + Minerva

(And ofcourse we have to keep in.mind funny stuffs like markarov cant follow serious kagura strike, sheathed kagura can output damage some what comparable to Jupiter and Minerva god spell is so strong jura didnt know that someone this strong was there and ofcourse kagura tanked that as well)


Tartarus erza was insane. Even laxus aint defeating her.

I guess if you think defeating rufus and then beating lyon is more impressive than beating jura
I guess one can agree defeating wahl and then defeating hades is more impressive than overpowering irene and fuking her up .

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So why did mishma had pantherlily say that while face down, wrecked. Why not say it he was happily flying away from azuma

Panel for top bitch statment required

So lucy also blitz him? Dude the fight started with the bart whaling on him, after hades syarted to fight it was pretty much over. Laxus basically do all that in an initial draw win, which hades might not have participated in. But since you are so in goat fan base, you can't even consider the possibility. Sometimes i think i should follow you guys, whatever i think happened is the only truth to me and dont even consider i might be wrong.

So laxus was on his a$$ not on one foot and one knee ( a very good leaping posture)

So markarov speed is comparable to tenrou erza speed. That is something i am ok with

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Sorry
I dont get what you mean

I’m comparing all of it. An this current battle clearly shows that Laxus is capable of beating Erza after taking out another comparable opponent.

Laxus told her she couldn’t beat him without fighting to kill, fighting all out. He literally tells her she isn’t powerful enough to try and put him down, but needed to claw for victory, and then beat her into submission. Laxus defeated her pretty decisively. An after winning their slug out (where she was slicing with her sword) still got off more spells than her, and obliterated her own. Hence her speech. She, like you, thought differently. An Laxus showed her the truth.

Elfman has kept pace with the rest of Team Tenrou, but is definitely the weakest of the real players.

Laxus roar isn’t downgraded. We’ve seen that roars can have different intensities. She def gets the feat though. She survived more spells than Kiria and Wahl did lol. An speaking of a Wahl, unlocking a new ability mid battle isn’t a new thing for shounen. An Laxus getting something that turned his regular lightning comparable to his DS spells, was a massive gain. I read FT, POF don’t bother me. An since it’s behind literally every major victory Erza has, a poor deflection.


Certainly not, Wahl is one of the stronger Spriggan. His toy was as powerful as Ajeel and Brandish was. He was literally the power house behind two seperate squads. He’s got the best offense shown as well. So maybe Jura to Orga. An the fact Orga matched Laxus base. Now able to ignore Laxus magic. An Laxus is still slapping him around. An his discorvery let him 1 shot dude. Then go on to beat Hades. Who is revived to be a challenge relative to where Laxus is.

Gray POF with his full demon powers had to steal Invel’a power and rely on that to win. Laxus was able to one shot somebody in base once he got around their immunity.

Dude, he was compared by Hades, Makarov, Gray. An we have August and Zeref both acknowledging his strength. Laxus position is based on active showings.


Hades flat out stated he didn’t know Makarov has another soldier of Gildarts caliber. Point blank. Makarov hoped Erza could take him. He wasn’t sure but only she stood a chance in his mind. Nobody else was even ready. An you accept this but don’t believe Makarov saying that Jura was a threat they needed Gildarts for? Don’t believe Mira that he would beat her and Erza together? You also forgot that Zeref was implicit that with his knowledge and intelligence on the guild he expected Laxus and Jellal to be able to reach him first. As he sits behind his entire assembled force.

He showed us nothing has changed. In FF he had Laxus basically come out on top against Natsu and Gajeel as a squad. Now we see he has enough power to beat Kiria and Erza back to back. Vindication feels great.

 

[grey matter]

@Axiomus @aymen24
I don't see how Acno's real power would translate to his soul's power exactly. Correct me if I'm wrong - from what I comprehended, I think you assume that the tiers remain the same even in soul world. i.e If Acno is, say 20 tiers ahead of Natsu in real world, you assume that Acno's soul would be 20 tiers ahead of Natsu in soul world as well.

I'm not sure if that's true, all I'm saying is that we don't know the rules involved in soul battles or in the soul world (or space-time weird world).

I think there is a reason why Mashima had them defeat Acno's soul, not the real body. It's because the real body can one shot anyone in the series, apart from strong Dragons. Even Mashima realized that he made Acno too OP for anyone in the final arc.

 

[aymen24]

@Axiomus @aymen24
I don't see how Acno's real power would translate to his soul's power exactly. Correct me if I'm wrong - from what I comprehended, I think you assume that the tiers remain the same even in soul world. i.e If Acno is, say 20 tiers ahead of Natsu in real world, you assume that Acno's soul would be 20 tiers ahead of Natsu in soul world as well.

I'm not sure if that's true, all I'm saying is that we don't know the rules involved in soul battles or in the soul world (or space-time weird world).

I think there is a reason why Mashima had them defeat Acno's soul, not the real body. It's because the real body can one shot anyone in the series, apart from strong Dragons. Even Mashima realized that he made Acno too OP for anyone in the final arc.

First of all....
acno split into body(dragon form) and soul
Logically his power is also divided between soul and body (dragon form)
Maybe 50-50 percent between body and soul I don't know

secondly....
I understand what you mean
But Mashima did not explain anything.
We do not know whether Acno's soul is as strong as Acno's human form in the real world

He is just a soul
There is no other explanation from Mashima!
Your question about this is also correct.

As I said in my previous reply...
Acno's soul........ he could one shot any of them as well

Was not serious (Because he needs them)
And also because of Plot (The main characters never die)

If he was serious with them like Serena
All of these scenes will be one shot

Spoiler: ..........

He had a chance to do that but he needed them for balance

The whole battle was a joke in the end

 

[grey matter]

First of all....
acno split into body(dragon form) and soul
Logically his power is also divided between soul and body (dragon form)
Maybe 50-50 percent between body and soul I don't know

secondly....
I understand what you mean
But Mashima did not explain anything.
We do not know whether Acno's soul is as strong as Acno's human form in the real world

He is just a soul
There is no other explanation from Mashima!
Your question about this is also correct.

As I said in my previous reply...
Acno's soul........ he could one shot any of them as well

Was not serious (Because he needs them)
And also because of Plot (The main characters never die)

If he was serious with them like Serena
All of these scenes will be one shot

Spoiler: ..........

He had a chance to do that but he needed them for balance

The whole battle was a joke in the end

Agree with everything except the first part.
I don't see that logic, because I don't know the connection between power of soul and power of real body. It may be 50-50, it may be 10-90, or it may not be a fraction of the full power at all and instead depend on something entirely different. We don't know.

Acno's soul still seems to be tiers ahead of Natsu and co, but his real body wouldn't even flinch from that rainbow punch IMO, even if he doesn't defend. So there is something else at play here

 

[GL_Nova]

So, how do you guys have everybody tiered? I’m a get started. At this rate we know that both movies are cannon, having been tied into the main mangas. We also have the fact that Mashima just actively placed Team Natsu EOS as comparable to Team Rave. (Team EZ as well, but depending on if Drakken is a true planetary threat it only supports this argument) With all of that being said, I have them as planetary.

Now we know DC is 100x stronger than Etherion, which we know busts countries. An Wahl a mid-top tier Spriggan is able to fire an Etherion effortlessly, after an pretty intense battle, with the same ease he created all his other weapons. Which since it wasn’t an ultimate technique in no way suggests he struggles at all. So this gives us a good idea of the top tier mages out there. An Etherion can wipe Fiore, and Fiore is bigger than Australia. An Wahl could do this casually.

Then you have the big gun. Irene terraformed the entire thing and was still dropping country lvl spells effortlessly. August was going to turn it to dust with a magic he specifically tells us he hasn’t learned to control, he actively avoided doing so. Phoenix was going to wipe the surface of the world. An it was the first threat comparable to Zeref. An he pales in comparison with Acnologia. Zeref was clear that Acnologia was capable of wiping all life from the face of Earthland. It was the source of his fears. So that sets Acnologia before ROT as between surface wiper, and planet buster.

So a solid argument exists to place god tiers at this level. Which would include other powerful named dragons, Gods, parents, whomever we’re missing. How high do you think the ceiling currently reaches.

 

[Ramen]

So, how do you guys have everybody tiered? I’m a get started. At this rate we know that both movies are cannon, having been tied into the main mangas. We also have the fact that Mashima just actively placed Team Natsu EOS as comparable to Team Rave. (Team EZ as well, but depending on if Drakken is a true planetary threat it only supports this argument) With all of that being said, I have them as planetary.

Now we know DC is 100x stronger than Etherion, which we know busts countries. An Wahl a mid-top tier Spriggan is able to fire an Etherion effortlessly, after an pretty intense battle, with the same ease he created all his other weapons. Which since it wasn’t an ultimate technique in no way suggests he struggles at all. So this gives us a good idea of the top tier mages out there. An Etherion can wipe Fiore, and Fiore is bigger than Australia. An Wahl could do this casually.

Then you have the big gun. Irene terraformed the entire thing and was still dropping country lvl spells effortlessly. August was going to turn it to dust with a magic he specifically tells us he hasn’t learned to control, he actively avoided doing so. Phoenix was going to wipe the surface of the world. An it was the first threat comparable to Zeref. An he pales in comparison with Acnologia. Zeref was clear that Acnologia was capable of wiping all life from the face of Earthland. It was the source of his fears. So that sets Acnologia before ROT as between surface wiper, and planet buster.

So a solid argument exists to place god tiers at this level. Which would include other powerful named dragons, Gods, parents, whomever we’re missing. How high do you think the ceiling currently reaches.

FT wise

God Tier:
Natsu and Gildarts

Ultimate Tier:
Laxus and Erza

Top Tier:
Gray/Gajeel/Mira

The rest idrc

At most with extreme wank, they're all island busting level. None of them are planetary

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Then you have the big gun. Irene terraformed the entire thing and was still dropping country lvl spells effortlessly. August was going to turn it to dust with a magic he specifically tells us he hasn’t learned to control, he actively avoided doing so. Phoenix was going to wipe the surface of the world. An it was the first threat comparable to Zeref. An he pales in comparison with Acnologia. Zeref was clear that Acnologia was capable of wiping all life from the face of Earthland. It was the source of his fears. So that sets Acnologia before ROT as between surface wiper, and planet buster.

Acno being able to wipe out all lifeform is not equal to he can planet bust lol. He couldn't even destroy Ishigar with his eternal flare.

 

[GL_Nova]

FT wise

God Tier:
Natsu and Gildarts

Ultimate Tier:
Laxus and Erza

Top Tier:
Gray/Gajeel/Mira

The rest idrc

At most with extreme wank, they're all island busting level. None of them are planetary

Island busting? What you smoking? Literally just listed 3 country busting moves that are in the manga. In the source material. Not to mention one of the weakest Spriggan is named the Nation Demolisher. How you think they only Island?

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Acno being able to wipe out all lifeform is not equal to he can planet bust lol. He couldn't even destroy Ishigar with his eternal flare.

First off, he rained destruction across the continent with that attack. An it was effortlessly messing around, he easily could have put effort in and destroyed it. If he can kill all life on the planet that’s a surface wiper. An as mentioned direct scaling puts him at least at multi-continental. With the crossover’s depiction of EOS Natsu being comparable to clearly EOS Haru, Acno scales to Endless.

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

First off, he rained destruction across the continent with that attack. An it was effortlessly messing around, he easily could have put effort in and destroyed it. If he can kill all life on the planet that’s a surface wiper. An as mentioned direct scaling puts him at least at multi-continental. With the crossover’s depiction of EOS Natsu being comparable to clearly EOS Haru, Acno scales to Endless.

His dragon was mindless. He wasn't holding in that form when he doesn't even have a mind. His only goal was destruction. He effortlessly destroyed nothing with that spell expect a small size rock. Crossovers are not canon and where does it even states EOS Haru == EOS Natsu.

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Island busting? What you smoking? Literally just listed 3 country busting moves that are in the manga. In the source material. Not to mention one of the weakest Spriggan is named the Nation Demolisher. How you think they only Island?

They have no feats other than Irene and August of such thing.

 

[Ramen]

Island busting? What you smoking? Literally just listed 3 country busting moves that are in the manga. In the source material. Not to mention one of the weakest Spriggan is named the Nation Demolisher. How you think they only Island?

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First off, he rained destruction across the continent with that attack. An it was effortlessly messing around, he easily could have put effort in and destroyed it. If he can kill all life on the planet that’s a surface wiper. An as mentioned direct scaling puts him at least at multi-continental. With the crossover’s depiction of EOS Natsu being comparable to clearly EOS Haru, Acno scales to Endless.

Names don't mean anything. Brandish didn't come close to doing anything planet busting.

Until I see something capable of actually destroying the planet like DBZ and Naruto stuff, I ain't believing it.

Nobody from the FT guild is planet buster either.

Acnologia destroying a continent doesn't equal destroying the whole planet.

Ars Magia and Universe One affected the continent at most, destroying the whole planet is something much different.

The dragons at most are country level