Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Laxus]

And where did I ever suggest that Ajeel didn't stomp Erza?



August never said Serena would be a weapon to fight Acnologia. You don't know what you're talking about. Everything else you said is irrelevant.



Another person with another claim that can't be backed up and will flat out be proven wrong when Laxus beats Wahl on his own.

And no, the Spriggan 12 were all stated to be on the same general level aside from August who was specifically pointed out as being significantly stronger. You and others need to get that through your head.

Why are you bringing up Jura vs Laxus? Laxus is far far more powerful than he was back then. Nothing suggests Jura even compares to him at this point.

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Stop responding to me. You can't grasp the context of anything I've said, so I'm done debating with you.

My bad, I actually thought he did say that. My mistake!

But anyways you are those kind of persons who only asks "for proves and claims" when yourself cant even provide them for your own arguments. Also if you stop using your sturbbon in every discussion you would realize I SAID Laxus is a Spriggan level. I also stated many times that Laxus may solo Wahl but because of his conditions and the fact Wahl counters this fight my result in a BS win. I hope its not the case.

ALso, its funny. You are being a hypocrite right now. You said:
"And no, the Spriggan 12 were all stated to be on the same general level aside from August who was specifically pointed out as being significantly stronger." but when other people says " God Serena is the strongest of Ishigar therefore he is stronger than Laxus" you actually try to shut down what they said when its implied that Serena is the strongest in Ishigar. But when I said Sprggans have ranks of power (This is what I believe) you actually take a statement from the manga to support your argument.
You should consider what you say before talking about the others.

Once again you dont read. I said Laxis is far superior to Jura now but only a year passed... Serena pratically one shotted Jura now and he would one shotted Jura a year ago. So you are telling me Laxus in a year would become in Serena level? Give me a break.

So stop thinking you have the "power" in your side because its cleary that you dont have anything to back up what you say. Wanna ehar something funny?!
What you and what others says its specualtion, predictions etc. So in this case both sides are right and wrong.

 

[Yunkers]

It's mentioned that God Serena is the strongest mage from Ishgar. I've already showed you 2 times.

But we have already told you many times that he isn't and you didn't even refer to it... And you can't explain why Warrod said he is weak despite he should be no.4... It's hard to discuss if you don't read another people's posts.

 

[Xzilerate]

But anyways you are those kind of persons who only asks "for proves and claims" when yourself cant even provide them for your own arguments. Also if you stop using your sturbbon in every discussion you would realize I SAID Laxus is a Spriggan level. I also stated many times that Laxus may solo Wahl but because of his conditions and the fact Wahl counters this fight my result in a BS win. I hope its not the case.

I backup all my claims with evidence.

ALso, its funny. You are being a hypocrite right now. You said:
"And no, the Spriggan 12 were all stated to be on the same general level aside from August who was specifically pointed out as being significantly stronger." but when other people says " God Serena is the strongest of Ishigar therefore he is stronger than Laxus" you actually try to shut down what they said when its implied that Serena is the strongest in Ishigar. But when I said Sprggans have ranks of power (This is what I believe) you actually take a statement from the manga to support your argument.
You should consider what you say before talking about the others.

Not even remotely the same. Saying God Serena is the strongest because he's ranked as the #1 WS is erroneous logic because such a concept has already proven to be wrong before. Jura was the 5th ranked WS yet he wasn't the 5th strongest wizard on the continent. Nothing has come up that's proven that the Spriggan 12 sans August aren't all around the same level.

Don't call me a hypocrite when you don't what you're talking about.

Once again you dont read. I said Laxis is far superior to Jura now but only a year passed... Serena pratically one shotted Jura now and he would one shotted Jura a year ago. So you are telling me Laxus in a year would become in Serena level? Give me a break.

And what suggest Laxus wouldn't one-shot Jura at this point? Please enlighten me.

And yes, I am telling you that. Laxus surpassed Jura (7 years of training) with just 6 months of training. Insane leaps in FT in a short amount of time are common.

So stop thinking you have the "power" in your side because its cleary that you dont have anything to back up what you say. Wanna ehar something funny?!
What you and what others says its specualtion, predictions etc. So in this case both sides are right and wrong.

Yea, I don't have anything to backup despite backing up every statement I've made thus far. You're not even worth my time.

 

[BluePegasus]

But we have already told you many times that he isn't and you didn't even refer to it... And you can't explain why Warrod said he is weak... It's hard to discuss if you don't read another people's posts.

Guess I need to post this another time:

http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/440/20

This is the proof that God Serena IS the strongest mage from Ishgar and NOT only the strongest from the Wizard Saints. Warrod have never said that God Serena is weak lmao. You're saying that I don't read another people's posts, but it's the third time I've posted the perfect proof that God Serena is the strongest mage from Ishgar.

 

[Yunkers]

Guess I need to post this another time:

http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/440/20

This is the proof that God Serena IS the strongest mage from Ishgar and NOT only the strongest from the Wizard Saints. Warrod have never said that God Serena is weak lmao. You're saying that I don't read another people's posts, but it's the third time I've posted the perfect proof that God Serena is the strongest mage from Ishgar.

I pass... I wrote one thing, but wrote anything related to my post... So,in your opinion Warrod is a big fat liar when he told this ranking is inrrevelant? Serena is said to be the strongest because he's FIRST ON THAT RANKING. 1st Ws=the title of the strongest, but it's a title only... Poor Warrod, anybody listen to him despite he is "4th strognest"...

 

[Laxus]

I backup all my claims with evidence.



Not even remotely the same. Saying God Serena is the strongest because he's ranked as the #1 WS is erroneous logic because such a concept has already proven to be wrong before. Jura was the 5th ranked WS yet he wasn't the 5th strongest wizard on the continent. Nothing has come up that's proven that the Spriggan 12 sans August aren't all around the same level.

Don't call me a hypocrite when you don't what you're talking about.



And what suggest Laxus wouldn't one-shot Jura at this point? Please enlighten me.

And yes, I am telling you that. Laxus surpassed Jura (7 years of training) with just 6 months of training. Insane leaps in FT in a short amount of time are common.



Yea, I don't have anything to backup despite backing up every statement I've made thus far. You're not even worth my time.

"Proven wrong before" - WIth Jura. Does that means that this will happen everytime? I already told you (and you keep ignoring which I expected you to do) Laxus had a high diff fight against Jura. By logic Jura is stronger now than before which means Serena would completly destroy Laxus and Jura together in GMG Arc.A year as passed.... Laxus got stronger no doubt but he is not in Serena level. Laxus has to prove it.

Funny whenever someone tries to argue with you, you say: "You dont know what you are talking about" like you know. Yes, what you are doing is an hypocrite behavior. I wont repeat myself so take like you want.
You say "there is no prove that Spriggans have different power ranks" yet you dont have prove that Serena is not the strongest in Ishigar when ITS SHOWNED Serena soloing Jura + GoI Ishigar with ease. Yet you keep using the excuse of Jura being the 5th strongest when he got beat by Laxus. You do realize Laxus (and FT) were away for seven years? Logically someone would ascend to rank #5 of the WS... But what they dint know is how strong Laxus was.

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What you dont understand is that people who say "Serena is the #1 of Ishigar" actually have prove. And all you have is a mere speculation and an event that occur an year ago in which was already stomped by my argument.
So I ask you: What makes you say Laxus would one shot Jura? In fact what makes you say Laxus would solo GoI and Jura?

"Worth your time" - Funny as well.

 

[Xzilerate]

"Proven wrong before" - WIth Jura. Does that means that this will happen everytime? I already told you (and you keep ignoring which I expected you to do) Laxus had a high diff fight against Jura. By logic Jura is stronger now than before which means Serena would completly destroy Laxus and Jura together in GMG Arc.A year as passed.... Laxus got stronger no doubt but he is not in Serena level. Laxus has to prove it.

It doesn't matter if it will happen every time. The fact is the concept is proven that it isn't 100% reliable and therefore can be chucked out the window as it's no longer a reliable source.

And there is no logic that proves Jura is stronger now than he was before. In order to make that claim that needs to be proven. Laxus has already proven it considering August felt Ajeelwas screwed had he not intervened and stopped Laxus' nuke and his word is far more credible than anything someone as arrogant as Ajeel says.

Funny whenever someone tries to argue with you, you say: "You dont know what you are talking about" like you know. Yes, what you are doing is an hypocrite behavior. I wont repeat myself so take like you want.

Yea, I do know what I'm talking about. Learn some reading comprehension and maybe you will as well.

You say "there is no prove that Spriggans have different power ranks" yet you dont have prove that Serena is not the strongest in Ishigar when ITS SHOWNED Serena soloing Jura + GoI Ishigar with ease.

So Jura and the GOI makeup the entirety of Ishgar? No, they don't and therefore that doesn't even remotely prove Serena is the strongest mage on the continent. It merely proves that he's stronger than the those 4 specific mages.

Yet you keep using the excuse of Jura being the 5th strongest when he got beat by Laxus. You do realize Laxus (and FT) were away for seven years? Logically someone would ascend to rank #5 of the WS... But what they dint know is how strong Laxus was.

And what makes you think they know how powerful he currently is? That's the entire point. It's the chairman of the magical council who elects the WS. He was killed in the Tartarus arc. All of the current Wizard Saints were given that title long ago meaning their ranks hold no weight in terms of power NOW as they received those titles when some these mages from FT weren't anywhere near as powerful as they are now.

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What you dont understand is that people who say "Serena is the #1 of Ishigar" actually have prove. And all you have is a mere speculation and an event that occur an year ago in which was already stomped by my argument.
So I ask you: What makes you say Laxus would one shot Jura? In fact what makes you say Laxus would solo GoI and Jura?

No, they do not have proof because being the #1 ranked WS doesn't even remotely means you're the strongest wizard on the continent just like Jura being the 5th ranked WS and not being the 5th strongest wizard on the continent.

And what makes me say Laxus would one-shot Jura and solo the GOI? Oh I don't know, maybe it has to do with the fact that he generated an enormous nuke that would've possibly one-shot a Spriggan had it not been for August coming in and counteracting said nuke.

"Worth your time" - Funny as well.

You're not and that's why you're getting ignored.

 

[Firepower]

With Acnologia being the strongest, whoever that dragon was that taught him dsm must have strength near or possibly even greater. Probably an old dragon hiding which Acnologia thought he killed.

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Fellas let's not argue about Laxus vs Jellal. Those two are immensely strong and imo too hard to figure out a decisive winner. Magic abilities, I give it to Jellal. Physical strength should not be underestimated either as even Acnologia didn't use magic to rip Serena's guts out. Laxus has the physical advantage over Jellal. Even then Jellal can launch a variety of attacks of the same strength at Laxus and it might not give an advantage. Not that Laxus has more magic power or anything. That's just an even match too hard to figure out imo. Too close to call.

Can't wait to see Jellal and Gildarts appear and demo their strength too. Gildarts said he and Natsu are the same that they both want to get stronger and be the best. So my guess is that Gildarts is gonna come crashing in. He's not likely pulling a Macao, who let himself go. It's only been a year. Gildarts better not be on another job. We need older enemies to match up with him.

 

[Laxus]

It doesn't matter if it will happen every time. The fact is the concept is proven that it isn't 100% reliable and therefore can be chucked out the window as it's no longer a reliable source.

And there is no logic that proves Jura is stronger now than he was before. In order to make that claim that needs to be proven. Laxus has already proven it considering August felt Ajeelwas screwed had he not intervened and stopped Laxus' nuke and his word is far more credible than anything someone as arrogant as Ajeel says.



Yea, I do know what I'm talking about. Learn some reading comprehension and maybe you will as well.



So Jura and the GOI makeup the entirety of Ishgar? No, they don't and therefore that doesn't even remotely prove Serena is the strongest mage on the continent. It merely proves that he's stronger than the those 4 specific mages.



And what makes you think they know how powerful he currently is? That's the entire point. It's the chairman of the magical council who elects the WS. He was killed in the Tartarus arc. All of the current Wizard Saints were given that title long ago meaning their ranks hold no weight in terms of power NOW as they received those titles when some these mages from FT weren't anywhere near as powerful as they are now.



No, they do not have proof because being the #1 ranked WS doesn't even remotely means you're the strongest wizard on the continent just like Jura being the 5th ranked WS and not being the 5th strongest wizard on the continent.

And what makes me say Laxus would one-shot Jura and solo the GOI? Oh I don't know, maybe it has to do with the fact that he generated an enormous nuke that would've possibly one-shot a Spriggan had it not been for August coming in and counteracting said nuke.



You're not and that's why you're getting ignored.

"Doesnt matter if it will happen everytime" You killed your entire argument with this.
So you say its not 100% reliable but you ignore it completly?! PLease, decide.

Funny how keep talking about "proves" when yourself dont have any proves lol. Give me the prove where Laxus is stronger than Serena then, we are still waiting. Yes, there is prove IN THE MANGA (read it well) that says Serena is the strongest andf actually soloed GoI plus Jura. Until there is somthing that deni8es this you cant even argue with this... You have no chance but stay quiet and accept the fact.

"So Jura and the GOI makeup the entirety of Ishgar? No, they don't and therefore that doesn't even remotely prove Serena is the strongest mage on the continent. It merely proves that he's stronger than the those 4 specific mages."
LOL! You say that but you still believe Laxus would defeat Serena when they never fought?
By your logic, Gildarts was never that strong despite the fact he is consider a monster in the Guild! So by your logic Laxus > Gildarts (before time skip).

And what makes you think they know how powerful he currently is? That's the entire point. It's the chairman of the magical council who elects the WS. He was killed in the Tartarus arc. All of the current Wizard Saints were given that title long ago meaning their ranks hold no weight in terms of power NOW as they received those titles when some these mages from FT weren't anywhere near as powerful as they are now.
Do you know who hyped August?! Makarov. Who do you think knows better about the spriggans : Brandish or Makarov. You said before that Brandish said that the Spriggan had the same level of magic power as her which means she included August as well. But the only who made August being hyped was Makrov only... You know what this means? Yes, there are ranks within the Spriggans.
This also proves another thing: Makarov knows shit about Serena and like I said before only August knows the true power of Serena! Therefore Makarov cant tell what kinda of power Serena has.
Also Serena defeated GoI (the first time) without DS magic: YES YOU HEARD ME! Serena soled them without even using his DS power. You telling me Laxus can dp that without his magic? NO you cant.

No, they do not have proof because being the #1 ranked WS doesn't even remotely means you're the strongest wizard on the continent just like Jura being the 5th ranked WS and not being the 5th strongest wizard on the continent.

And what makes me say Laxus would one-shot Jura and solo the GOI? Oh I don't know, maybe it has to do with the fact that he generated an enormous nuke that would've possibly one-shot a Spriggan had it not been for August coming in and counteracting said nuke.

By that Logic it means Acnologia isnt the strongest dragon. Acnologia was stated to tbe the strongest Dragon and he is and already proved without us seeing him fight other Dragons except a nerfed Igneel.
Why is it different with Serena? Serena Dragon Slayer with not only one element, two element but EIGHT ELEMENTS!

Lol, so you actually believe Laxus would trow random lightnings nukes and one shot every spriggan?

And now because you cant actually provide anything else than "WS ranks are false" you ignore me because everything you said were stomped.

 

[Aizen]

Says who? Jura was the 5th ranked WS. He lost to Laxus. That title is just that, a title. It does not definitively mean they're the 5th, 4th, 3rd, 2nd, etc strongest mages on the continent. The GOI weren't impressive in the slightest. They were completely overhyped as they don't have a single impressive feat to their name. And nothing even suggests Jura is anywhere near Laxus in terms of power anymore, so calling him a Laxus tier at this point is flat out wrong.

Absolutely nothing definitively suggests any of them even compare to Laxus at this point. And there is no such thing as the weakest Spriggan. They were all touted as being on the same level with the exception of August who was stated to be significantly above the others.

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There's no reason not to. He has destructive feats on par with or exceeding their own. He threatened to significantly damage one with a casual nuke. He completely erased one of Ajeel's strongest attacks (sands of death) with a simple lightning bolt. Everything suggests he's at that level and after he likely defeats Wahl it will be proven that he'll be at/above that level.

Yeah perhaps but His "feats" are totally subjective you can't really guarantee there on par with spriggan's, Anyways these thing's are based on perception not always fact hence why we all even have discussions in threads haha.

 

[Mirage]

Says who? Jura was the 5th ranked WS. He lost to Laxus. That title is just that, a title. It does not definitively mean they're the 5th, 4th, 3rd, 2nd, etc strongest mages on the continent. The GOI weren't impressive in the slightest. They were completely overhyped as they don't have a single impressive feat to their name. And nothing even suggests Jura is anywhere near Laxus in terms of power anymore, so calling him a Laxus tier at this point is flat out wrong.

Absolutely nothing definitively suggests any of them even compare to Laxus at this point. And there is no such thing as the weakest Spriggan. They were all touted as being on the same level with the exception of August who was stated to be significantly above the others.

Just because Jura is weaker than Laxus doesn't mean he's not a Laxus tier.

You say the GoI weren't impressive but we've seen next to nothing from them. That doesn't mean they're not impressive. We've barely seen shit from Zeref 470 chapters in so I guess he's not impressive either.

Anyway, going by their titles, Hyberion, Warrod and Wolheim are all > Laxus.
Serena casually crushed 3 mages who are > Laxus + Jura.
Serena >> Laxus until we've seen more from Laxus.

 

[Brandish μ]

Well you can only be impressed by what you see. The 2000km tree is the best thing I've seen from a GoI. In combat they've come up waaay short compared to the hype. In combat God Serena has whooped WS2-5. This shows the combat level of a Spriggan compared to the much vaunted GoI. Laxus has matched Spriggans - once in an exchange of magic (non-combat) and the other in a 1 v 1 battle. The feats of Laxus and God Serena are comparable - you could make a case that Laxus' are better. I think if you believe Laxus is well below God Serena, you're actually proposing that Wahl is also much below Serena. So far I think Wahl is at least as impressive as God Serena.

 

[Pirate Queen]

I don't think Laxus is at Serena's level and i definitely dont think he could fight on par with The GOI. He's got destructive power, sure, but thats not everything. Jura could have easily gotten just as strong as Laxus. Its not Juras fault he got off paneled for plot purposes. I also agree with Ajeel, i dont think he woild have been beaten by that nuke Laxus sent his way. I think August was being cautious, lime he insinuated. I think Ajeel would have whooped laxus with some effort

 

[Crimson Ice]

Serena is an above average Spriggan, he's 2nd on my list below August

 

[Mirage]

Wahl hasn't done anything as impressive as casually crushing 3 GoI + Jura.

Seriously, I don't get people's logic.

Serena crushed 3 mages who are > Laxus. Yet somehow Laxus and Serena are comparable? Lol not even close.

I'm not going to downplay a character because their feats were off-paneled. If we do, then that just makes the GoI fodder and Serena an above average character in strength.

Serena >> Laxus. Not hard to comprehend.

 

[Crimson Ice]

Ra

Wahl hasn't done anything as impressive as casually crushing 3 GoI + Jura.

Seriously, I don't get people's logic.

Serena crushed 3 mages who are > Laxus. Yet somehow Laxus and Serena are comparable? Lol not even close.

I'm not going to downplay a character because their feats were off-paneled. If we do, then that just makes the GoI fodder and Serena an above average character in strength.

Serena >> Laxus. Not hard to comprehend.

You're randomly assuming the top 3 are above Laxus, they have no feats and just pure vague hype to support them not to mention they al got casually stomped on by Serena. While Serena stregnth wasn't implied to be far above any of Spirggan's

 

[Pirate Queen]

Ra

You're randomly assuming the top 3 are above Laxus, they have no feats and just pure vague hype to support them not to mention they al got casually stomped on by Serena. While Serena stregnth wasn't implied to be far above any of Spirggan's

Umm, hes not randomly assuming anything. They are the GODS OF ISHGAR - Wizard Saints. You don't have to take a complete shot in the dark and say they are pretty powerful. More powerful than Laxus. Its not like he picked 3 random wizards and said they were more powerful than Laxus. Characters are hyped for a reason. Gildats is hyped, but hasnt really shown out of this world feats... doesnt mean hes not mega powerful.

 

[Brandish μ]

Wahl hasn't done anything as impressive as casually crushing 3 GoI + Jura.

Seriously, I don't get people's logic.

Serena crushed 3 mages who are > Laxus. Yet somehow Laxus and Serena are comparable? Lol not even close.

I'm not going to downplay a character because their feats were off-paneled. If we do, then that just makes the GoI fodder and Serena an above average character in strength.

Serena >> Laxus. Not hard to comprehend.

God Serena DC feats are above Wahl. Everything else is probably in Wahl's favour on feats OR God Serena didn't register any (like speed, he barely moved). How durable are the GoI, what is their endurance like? They all seem to be on par with Jura in this regard.

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There are 2 good reasons why we don't even need to think about how God Serena/GoI/Jura performed off panel...

1) Their performance is implied as being better in their comeback on-panel. In the comeback, August even calls Hyberion's magic impressive. Before the comeback however God Serena flat out mocked them about their performance off-panel. Therefore, on-panel GoI/Jura > off-panel GoI/Jura.

2) God Serena used a lesser degree of power off-panel. On panel we see his true power. Therefore, on-panel God Serena > off-panel God Serena.

So what you get on-panel is the best you can get for God Serena, Jura and the GoI. The off-panel feats are implied as inferior, so no point worrying about them.

 

[Coné]

God Serena DC feats are above Wahl. Everything else is probably in Wahl's favour on feats OR God Serena didn't register any (like speed, he barely moved). How durable are the GoI, what is their endurance like? They all seem to be on par with Jura in this regard.

@bold

There are 2 good reasons why we don't even need to think about how God Serena/GoI/Jura performed off panel...

1) Their performance is implied as being better in their comeback on-panel. In the comeback, August even calls Hyberion's magic impressive. Before the comeback however God Serena flat out mocked them about their performance off-panel. Therefore, on-panel GoI/Jura > off-panel GoI/Jura.

2) God Serena used a lesser degree of power off-panel. On panel we see his true power. Therefore, on-panel God Serena > off-panel God Serena.

So what you get on-panel is the best you can get for God Serena, Jura and the GoI. The off-panel feats are implied as inferior, so no point worrying about them.

It doesn't matter if Serena barely moved from what we got on-panel. It is implied that the GoI are at least as fast as Jellal (they were stated to be miles above Jura - which is reinforced by their ranking - who kept up with Jellal), which means that God Serena can keep up with three characters as fast as Jellal + Jura. This alone implies that he is faster than Laxus, and therefore faster than Wahl. The GoI's durability is again scaled with Jellal/Jura (roughly Town-level), but not that it matters, because they're roughly City level (via scaling with Jellal; City level is due to Sema). So what we get is Serena defeating thse opponents without the lacrimas (implying that they didn't go all out off-panel is countered by their intentions, their statements and by the fact that the off-paneled battle started during the day but ended near dusk). He tanked all of their attacks on-panel (scaled to City level - at least Hyberion's attack should do this kind of damage) and he utter stomped him going all-out, while being clearly faster than them. This already implies a couple of things:
- He has better DC than both Laxus and Wahl.
- He has better speed than both due to being faster than 3 characters at least as fast as Jellal.
- He tanked attacks that are scaled to Sema, which puts his durability at least on par with Wahl's.

So... how's Wahl stronger than Serena?

 

[Mirage]

Ra

You're randomly assuming the top 3 are above Laxus, they have no feats and just pure vague hype to support them not to mention they al got casually stomped on by Serena. While Serena stregnth wasn't implied to be far above any of Spirggan's

So the 3 GoI are nothing but fodder? Their feats got off-paneled, not my fault. Their hype makes them > Laxus.

Simple as that.

God Serena DC feats are above Wahl. Everything else is probably in Wahl's favour on feats OR God Serena didn't register any (like speed, he barely moved). How durable are the GoI, what is their endurance like? They all seem to be on par with Jura in this regard.

@bold

There are 2 good reasons why we don't even need to think about how God Serena/GoI/Jura performed off panel...

1) Their performance is implied as being better in their comeback on-panel. In the comeback, August even calls Hyberion's magic impressive. Before the comeback however God Serena flat out mocked them about their performance off-panel. Therefore, on-panel GoI/Jura > off-panel GoI/Jura.

2) God Serena used a lesser degree of power off-panel. On panel we see his true power. Therefore, on-panel God Serena > off-panel God Serena.

So what you get on-panel is the best you can get for God Serena, Jura and the GoI. The off-panel feats are implied as inferior, so no point worrying about them.

We've barely seen any noteworthy feats from Wahl, so how can you say he's > Serena?

Since the GoI are the strongest mages on the continent and their battle was off-paneled, they get scaled to the strongest person in the verse bar Zeref, Acno and of course Serena. So that would be Natsu/Laxus.

That means Serena casually stomped 3 Laxus tiered characters + Jura. Let that sink in.