Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Darklord#10]

Damn, some dude on comicvine actually believes Gildarts is far stronger than Jellal and Erza (by extension the DDSK) just cuz he used his crash on them. That's like saying Laxus, Juvia and Levy are far stronger than Natsu, Gray and Lucy. Ridiculous.

It's not like people actually believe kirin or misaki are stronger or equal to gildarts. I mean if erza and gildarts was to fight gildarts won't get two shotted. I myself don't know if Kirin and Misaki are really on par with gildarts. I reread their fight and for people hyped up to be as strong as gildarts I was expecting much more.

I remember a question on Reddit asking jellal vs laxus I replied go and ask mashima-sensei and I got downvoted

 

[Steven]

Feats matters the most and if the feats dont back up what Hiro claims his words means jackshit.

 

[Darklord#10]

For example, No matter how insane Natsu feats are.

I think it's crazy that mashima have natsu fight Aldoron and merely weeks later still say something like gajeel is as strong as natsu. Even when they fought back in aldoron arc he off screened the fight. I don't really understand that. Isn't it better not to answer questions like that? Or say something like that?

 

[WoWfan]

Feats matters the most and if the feats dont back up what Hiro claims his words means jackshit.

Usually on there own as in not in the official material because he can’t just say anything there unless approved by the publishers.

 

[Darklord#10]

DL

Wait why did you use DL?

 

[Steven]

Usually on there own as in not in the official material because he can’t just say anything there unless approved by the publishers.

We talk here about a Autor who dont know whats going on in this Manga lol.

 

[WoWfan]

We talk here about a Autor who dont know whats going on in this Manga lol.

Though he has a hand in directing it and giving the story boards on how it would go.

 

[Darklord#10]

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Runs in the family I guess. Arguably Two of the best violations in the whole franchise.
Natsu gave dimaria a reality check, her PTSD was so bad that she became a farmer . From a war goddess to a farmer, that's hard. What natsu did to Mari was more than violation.

My boy ignia, violated selene so bad she no longer sought distortion she sought peace. Ignia is HIM ngl.

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evil selene trolling suzaku is funny asf I hate selene but some aspects of her character is just different. How she trolled suzaku was funny but also how she caused Irene fans to have a meltdown certifying herself as mashima's number 1 milf

 

[Garmadooon]

There's a logic that I don't understand from some people (looking at you @Vex_Haid ).

When a tired Erza reacts to Suzaku everyone claims that Suzaku is not so strong that Irene can "one shot" Suzaku that she is stronger than Human Selene and that Erza is so much stronger than Suzaku (I even saw people say Erza is stronger than Selene)

But when a badly injured Erza (and Wendy) reacts to Irene and blocks her attacks, we can't say that Irene is fodder and she's one shot material for DGs or that Erza is stronger than Irene. .

I would like to know why? (Not trying to downplay Irene but because some people have a double standard)

 

[LaGOAT]

There's a logic that I don't understand from some people (looking at you @Vex_Haid ).

When a tired Erza reacts to Suzaku everyone claims that Suzaku is not so strong that Irene can "one shot" Suzaku that she is stronger than Human Selene and that Erza is so much stronger than Suzaku (I even saw people say Erza is stronger than Selene)

But when a badly injured Erza (and Wendy) reacts to Irene and blocks her attacks, we can't say that Irene is fodder and she's one shot material for DGs or that Erza is stronger than Irene. .

I would like to know why? (Not trying to downplay Irene but because some people have a double standard)

Exactly which 1 is it?

 

[WoWfan]

There's a logic that I don't understand from some people (looking at you @Vex_Haid ).

When a tired Erza reacts to Suzaku everyone claims that Suzaku is not so strong that Irene can "one shot" Suzaku that she is stronger than Human Selene and that Erza is so much stronger than Suzaku (I even saw people say Erza is stronger than Selene)

But when a badly injured Erza (and Wendy) reacts to Irene and blocks her attacks, we can't say that Irene is fodder and she's one shot material for DGs or that Erza is stronger than Irene. .

I would like to know why? (Not trying to downplay Irene but because some people have a double standard)

here is the thing, Erza has only a stab in the shoulder and a burnt and frozen hand. And one of those was caused by enemies weaker than Irene. Irene managed to blitz Erza, closing the distance between them before Erza could react. It is safe to say that Irene has been playing with the two for most of the time.

 

[grey matter]

Exactly which 1 is it?

There are no standards or honesty, there are only agendas.

Suzaku's feat is invalid cause apparently Erza was tired fighting Yoko for like 10 mins, with no visible injury.

But none of this matters for Eileen, when this was what Erza did before starting the fight with her:
- fought Ajeel in a tough battle, rest for a day. Was injured enough to not be fully healed in one day
- fought Neinhart, almost died, rest for a day. By above pattern, should have healed even less since injuries were worse than against Ajeel
- got stabbed/slashes by Berserk soldiers
- had both her arms almost charred and crumbled by Natsu/Gray

Eileen gets wanked for the "Acno feat", when he was bored and looking to kill time..
Jellal upstaged everything she did against a more serious Acno, but he is still fodder apparently.

Eileen gets wanked for "being praised" by Acno as decent for someone who was Zeref's underling.
But Suzaku outright being called strong by Selene and praised by her as someone above her human form is also fodder apparently.

It is absolute clown logic and ridiculous double standards, completely exposes the Eileen wankers.
There is simply no reasoning with Eileen wankers. Simping has fried dudes' brains since humanity existed, it's the same shit here.

 

[Darklord#10]

Dragon force gives natsu 2-3x boost which he was able to defeat jellal. He went from getting his ass blitzed to oblivion to being the one blitzing jellal this is pre TS but apparently erza and laxus is still stronger than dragon force natsu even though he defeated someone who was arguably stronger back then.

Somewhat weakened aldoron is also weaker than erza laxus and jellal even though dragon force natsu has defeated people on this level or above
Jellal
Zero
He was able to tag mard geer with dragon force
He was able to obliterate FH zeref with dragon force
He used it against acnologia
He destroyed somewhat weakened aldoron who by the way should be stronger than base natsu but still weaker than the s-class

he was using the power of igneel, we now know that natsu has a portion of igneel's power but apparently he's still weaker than erza
(@MyaHeart35 I'm looking at you)

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Suzaku's feat is invalid cause apparently Erza was tired fighting Yoko for like 10 mins, with no visible injury.

Lmao it doesn't matter if she was injured we know that broken Bones Erza destroyed Eileen's dragon form that's all we need to know. Erza was more half dead against Eileen than suzaku. She headbut her to the extent that she choked blood

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But none of this matters for Eileen, when this was what Erza did before starting the fight with her:
- fought Ajeel in a tough battle, rest for a day. Was injured enough to not be fully healed in one day
- fought Neinhart, almost died, rest for a day. By above pattern, should have healed even less since injuries were worse than against Ajeel
- got stabbed/slashes by Berserk soldiers
- had both her arms almost charred and crumbled by Natsu/Gray

She was on POF don't forget that part. She was playing ping pong with rot acnologia to

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Eileen gets wanked for "being praised" by Acno as decent for someone who was Zeref's underling.

It's even worse because they think human Irene is on the same level with human acnologia. Acnologia in his human form loses to dragon Irene dude we're talking about the same people who think Irene can defeat igneel I don't know what fairy tail you have to watch to believe that

 

[WoWfan]

There are no standards or honesty, there are only agendas.

Suzaku's feat is invalid cause apparently Erza was tired fighting Yoko for like 10 mins, with no visible injury.

But none of this matters for Eileen, when this was what Erza did before starting the fight with her:
- fought Ajeel in a tough battle, rest for a day. Was injured enough to not be fully healed in one day
- fought Neinhart, almost died, rest for a day. By above pattern, should have healed even less since injuries were worse than against Ajeel
- got stabbed/slashes by Berserk soldiers
- had both her arms almost charred and crumbled by Natsu/Gray

Eileen gets wanked for the "Acno feat", when he was bored and looking to kill time..
Jellal upstaged everything she did against a more serious Acno, but he is still fodder apparently.

Eileen gets wanked for "being praised" by Acno as decent for someone who was Zeref's underling.
But Suzaku outright being called strong by Selene and praised by her as someone above her human form is also fodder apparently.

It is absolute clown logic and ridiculous double standards, completely exposes the Eileen wankers.
There is simply no reasoning with Eileen wankers. Simping has fried dudes' brains since humanity existed, it's the same shit here.

She got healed up enough to fight, all that really matters is the condition of the recent fight, and only if any past conditions are mentioned.

Jellal was curve stompled by August who could fight CQC with Gildarts, and Irene scales to August, so Jellal’s feats are immediately below hers.

whether Erza was tired or not doesn’t change the tiering, she managed to react to him, though her current clothing and weapon doesn’t Suit for durability, only offense. And later defeated Misaki who was of his level, same with Wendy against Haku. And Selene said Irene’s power is greater than Wendy’s, and this was just a Persona. Simple fact.

 

[LaGOAT]

here is the thing, Erza has only a stab in the shoulder and a burnt and frozen hand. And one of those was caused by enemies weaker than Irene. Irene managed to blitz Erza, closing the distance between them before Erza could react. It is safe to say that Irene has been playing with the two for most of the time.

Erza still wasn’t 100% (even before she stop natsu and gray attack) in both scenarios that’s the point

 

[WoWfan]

Erza still wasn’t 100% (even before she stop natsu and gray attack) in both scenarios that’s the point

Sure, tho even if not at a hundred percent, it is not a marginally low percentage, as she was not injured in any vital areas that would be hazardous.

 

[LaGOAT]

Sure, tho even if not at a hundred percent, it is not a marginally low percentage, as she was not injured in any vital areas that would be hazardous.

But it’s arguable that erza was in a worser shape vs Irene than she was vs suzuku.

the point Is why is Irene praised for her feats vs erza and acno.

but suzuku who did something similar (fought erza and Selene (who also on acno tier) it’s shitting on

 

[WoWfan]

But it’s arguable that erza was in a worser shape vs Irene than she was vs suzuku.

the point Is why is Irene praised for her feats vs erza and acno.

but suzuku who did something similar (fought erza and Selene (who also on acno tier) it’s shitting on

In the Sequal she did receive a cut to the waist which is a near fatal spot.

personally, if people want to have that feat (despite my protests for what was hinted in the story) that is fine.

 

[Darklord#10]

Sure, tho even if not at a hundred percent, it is not a marginally low percentage, as she was not injured in any vital areas that would be hazardous.

She couldn't even fight the historia properly because of her Injuries. She almost died against ajeel. Wtf are you talking about

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But it’s arguable that erza was in a worser shape vs Irene than she was vs suzuku.

It's not even arguable it's a fact. She almost died twice. She passed out against the historia. She was in freaking bandages. Did you see her hands after stopping Des gray attack that shit look like it was going to fall.

 

[Mimi0207]

What people don't want to accept is that Irene is one shot material for Suzaku. She is nothing to him. Put an army of Irene and Suzaku would always win.


I’ve seen a lot of bullshit on this thread that shouldn't even be taken seriously. "Irene is stronger than Erza" "Irene defeated Erza" "Irene can one shot Erza without POF": Seriously, are we reading the same manga?? The truth is that Erza outclassed Irene in everything (physical strength speed endurance durability battle IQ). Even when she became a dragon Erza one shotted her with DS magic. An Erza in great shape and with her own enchantment would low diff Irene.


People need to understand that the Spriggan are powercreeped and getting destroyed by current FT members. The only one who has the feats to defeat Suzaku is August. And no Irene is not equal to August. He has been described multiples times as the strongest Spriggan. Irene is just a random Spriggan with a lot of magical power, nothing special. I even think weaker Spriggan like Larcade or God Serena can beat her.