Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

Which side are you on?

  • Team Spriggan 12

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My top tier list for strongest people in the series as per the latest arc:
1.Acnologia (This is non debatable)
2.Zeref( This is the only guy who Acnologia bothers to respect and even pay attention to what he does; he took note that Eileen learned her magic from Zeref, also taking in the Curse of Contradictions into account, I honestly think if Zeref wanted to, he could have dealt with Acnologia if he wanted to)
3.Igneel (he was able to fight one on one with Acno in a half dead state, and even ripped off his arm)
4.Eileen Belserion- Was able to enchant an entire freaking continent!
5.August-Stronger than the other Spriggan 12 members showcased by putting Brandish to sleep easily
6.Dimaria Chronos Yesta
7.Brandish Myu
8.God Serena
9.Hyberion
10. The rest
 

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That's ridiculous, common sense dictates that if the enemy is too powerful then hax won't work on them. Otherwise Brandish could have just shrunk Acnologia to the size of an ant and we wouldn't be fighting a war to begin with.
Yeah, I was about to say the same thing otherwise the lists are just going to be DiMaria, Macro users, Brandish and Irene.
 

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I challenge all of you to provide feats, and if you do use hype to use it all around not nitpick what you want, 5 characters that you feel should be considered the top 5 in the Fairy Tail universe. Provide a legit argument for those feats presented and as a group people could decide which argument is the best and decide who truly is the top 5 in the Universe. Then after that we will proceed to the next 5 for top 10. Continue until the list is complete.

If you want to take up this challenge then all you have to do is quote this comment and Pick your top 5 and make the argument as to why using evidence and can use hype if you want to.

Rules:

-None of your picks can simply have hype behind them without any panels or feats to back it up.

Ex: Meaning you can't say Wolfhiem is a city buster without any city busting feats to go along with that.

-If you use hype you must use all Hype or no hype.

Ex: You can't say the GOI were hyped to be stronger than Jura and use that but say you aren't going to use the hype that all the Spriggan except for Irene and August are on the same level. Meaning you would have to use both or neither.

-Speculation is fine as long as there is some evidence to support or back you claim up. The evidence has to be relevant to you proposed speculation.


NO Bashing---Be Respectful

If you disagree with someone then you need to provide a counter argument with evidence. You can't just say you disagree. An argument must always be provided if you disagree with someone/something written.

I will say again that you post can't just be a wall of text without any sources like panels, tweets, etc. If you are going to say Hiro said something then the tweet must be presented or it must be left out of your argument.

Also none of that setting limits for characters that don't exist.

Meaning you can't say Brandish Mass magic or Dimira time magic won't work on someone more powerful than them without any evidence to back it up.

Igneel, Ankhseram,
END, Acnologia
Zeref.

Igneel went toe-to-toe against Acno even though he was just using his leftover powers. He was claimed to be much stronger at his prime.
Ankhseram: We don't know much but definitely much stronger than Zeref. Plus a deadly curse from which there seems to be no escape.
I have no way of comparing these two.

END: Acno was scared of his revival. Weaker than Igneel though as defeated by him. Stronger than Zeref as Zeref doesn't seem to pose any threat to Acno.
Acnologia: Duh!!
Zeref: Obviously, stronger than all 12 Spriggans and their mentor. Achieved many feats like creating the R-system and Eclipse Gate, or reviving his brother.

Frankly, it seems the top 5 in FT universe is a non-controversial list.
 

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Top 5 in the series?

1) Acnologia
2) Igneel
3) Zeref
4) August
5) Irene

I don't really count Ankhseram. But yeah, it seems like the Top 5 is a pretty well established. It's when we try to hash out the top tiers that things get messy.
 

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^The same as that I would say. Not counting dragons like Grandenay either... I consider her to be above the likes of August.

For those alive it's...

1) Acnologia
2) Zeref
3) Natsu
4/5) Irene/August
 

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Anyone else could also join in.

I challenge all of you to provide feats, and if you do use hype to use it all around not nitpick what you want, 5 characters that you feel should be considered the top 5 in the Fairy Tail universe. Provide a legit argument for those feats presented and as a group people could decide which argument is the best and decide who truly is the top 5 in the Universe. Then after that we will proceed to the next 5 for top 10. Continue until the list is complete.

If you want to take up this challenge then all you have to do is quote this comment and Pick your top 5 and make the argument as to why using evidence and can use hype if you want to.

Rules:

-None of your picks can simply have hype behind them without any panels or feats to back it up.

Ex: Meaning you can't say Wolfhiem is a city buster without any city busting feats to go along with that.

-If you use hype you must use all Hype or no hype.

Ex: You can't say the GOI were hyped to be stronger than Jura and use that but say you aren't going to use the hype that all the Spriggan except for Irene and August are on the same level. Meaning you would have to use both or neither.

-Speculation is fine as long as there is some evidence to support or back you claim up. The evidence has to be relevant to you proposed speculation.


NO Bashing---Be Respectful

If you disagree with someone then you need to provide a counter argument with evidence. You can't just say you disagree. An argument must always be provided if you disagree with someone/something written.

I will say again that you post can't just be a wall of text without any sources like panels, tweets, etc. If you are going to say Hiro said something then the tweet must be presented or it must be left out of your argument.

Also none of that setting limits for characters that don't exist.

Meaning you can't say Brandish Mass magic or Dimira time magic won't work on someone more powerful than them without any evidence to back it up.
This should be interesting, good idea @Cosmicstar though I am discounting the "no limits" bit. (I'm also ignoring dragons like Weisslogia and Levia otherwise the entire list would be dragons).

So my top 5:

1) Acnologia - The strongest Dragon Slayer and so far the strongest character in Fairy Tail. He secures the top spot for nuking Tenrou Island with a roar, blitzing Gildarts. blitzing God Serena and putting Irene on the back foot whilst toying with her.

2) Igneel - Managed to fight against Acnologia in a half-dead state and tore an arm off of him. I still believe that Acnologia > Igneel now but that's because it's current Acnologia.

3) Zeref - While he is very strong it's actually his immortality that puts him here. Add his immortality to his magic that causes death indiscriminately and you've got an incredibly powerful wizard.

4) Irene Belserion - Able to enchant an entire country, able to turn people into animals, able to turn inanimate objects into people etc. She's also got similar hype to August, similar hype + feats earns her the number four spot.

5) August - From the few feats he has shown it's clear that he's above the other Spriggans, his nuke was massive and he was able to casually put an S12 member to sleep. In a few chapters I expect August to be above Irene but for now he takes the number five spot.
 

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Anyone else could also join in.

I challenge all of you to provide feats, and if you do use hype to use it all around not nitpick what you want, 5 characters that you feel should be considered the top 5 in the Fairy Tail universe. Provide a legit argument for those feats presented and as a group people could decide which argument is the best and decide who truly is the top 5 in the Universe. Then after that we will proceed to the next 5 for top 10. Continue until the list is complete.

If you want to take up this challenge then all you have to do is quote this comment and Pick your top 5 and make the argument as to why using evidence and can use hype if you want to.

Rules:

-None of your picks can simply have hype behind them without any panels or feats to back it up.

Ex: Meaning you can't say Wolfhiem is a city buster without any city busting feats to go along with that.

-If you use hype you must use all Hype or no hype.

Ex: You can't say the GOI were hyped to be stronger than Jura and use that but say you aren't going to use the hype that all the Spriggan except for Irene and August are on the same level. Meaning you would have to use both or neither.

-Speculation is fine as long as there is some evidence to support or back you claim up. The evidence has to be relevant to you proposed speculation.


NO Bashing---Be Respectful

If you disagree with someone then you need to provide a counter argument with evidence. You can't just say you disagree. An argument must always be provided if you disagree with someone/something written.

I will say again that you post can't just be a wall of text without any sources like panels, tweets, etc. If you are going to say Hiro said something then the tweet must be presented or it must be left out of your argument.

Also none of that setting limits for characters that don't exist.

Meaning you can't say Brandish Mass magic or Dimira time magic won't work on someone more powerful than them without any evidence to back it up.
I love your idea. Actually we could even use polls. For example, I've read people saying Irene is above August, even when August was declared the strongest S12 member. I'll begin with Acnologia, August, Irene, Zeref and Igneel.

Acnologia

The first time we hear about Acnologia is soon after we meet Glidartz. Glidartz tells Natsu during his quest he encountered a black dragon who was evil and who casually barely killed him.



Glidartz proceeds to explain he got several organs, along with his leg and I don't recall, but maybe something else in less than a second.

Glidartz was probably speedblitzed and fodderized. He probably got this amount of damage in less than a second. Let's remember that Glidartz, by hype, is a beast of a character, so powerful that the city was built as a counter of his magic. His power has been soooooo exaggerated that I believe he'll still be a powerhouse when he returns. But that aside.

It's no surprise Glidartz got blitzed and barely killed even before he noticed. After all, God Serena, a mage who's supposedly vastly superior to him, got speedblitzed as well. And killed. Before a second.



I don't know about calculations but it looks like it happened in less than a second, and in less than a second he moved like 100 meters. In, what, 0,5 seconds? 0,2 seconds? That makes him match speeds right? In his human form. 3 Spriggan level mages, among which the strongest mage in Alvarez (and the a member in the top5, probably), who is August, seemingly couldn't react to his speed.

It's arguable whether in his dragon form is stronger than in his human form. What we know is that, during his first appearance, he was just playing around. And still, he managed to overpower everyone so badly...



Makarov couldn't even hold him, and we're talking about Makarov, who was probably among the top5 back in Tenrou!

And, of course, this:



He managed to withstand all of FT members' attacks without even a scratch. He was clearly toying.

Ah, he casually managed to burst an island.



But we know he's country level



It's true that Igneel wasn't at its full, but he still should be among the top5 as well, and look at his performance against Acnologia:







Igneel's nuke might've been Island level as well, maybe the strongest nuke we've seen appart from Acno's, and he was unharmed. Igneel managed to take his arm though, so he's the only known being to have hurt him. And handicapped. So Igneel should definetely be top5 unless we actually get to see characters like August or Irene hurting him, in which case, well, he'd still make it to top5 I believe.

Also, a couple of human form Acnologia's feats are tanking Irene's casual ball of fire



And creating an inmensely deep and considerably large hole upon raising his hand.



My question now is: do you think Irene (and August for that matter) would be capable of actually hurting Acnologia, in any way? If yes, she might be above or below Igneel; if not, they are below.

I'll discuss another character later.

Also, I don't agree with Zeref being superior to August or Irene. I guess you claim so because he's immortal, but he would be above Acno for that matter, and he's not. I'd say Zeref is bellow August and Irene, high spriggan level, but immortal. There are evidences but I'll find them some other time ^^
 
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@Char By hurting do you mean simply scratching him or significantly damaging him? If the former no, if the latter yes.
 

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@Char By hurting do you mean simply scratching him or significantly damaging him? If the former no, if the latter yes.
Hmmm I meant, performing as good as or better than Igneel. I don't know how you'd class ripping off his arm but I guess it's a significant injury.
 

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Hmmm I meant, performing as good as or better than Igneel. I don't know how you'd class ripping off his arm but I guess it's a significant injury.
I don't think either of them are capable of that, Acnologia can clearly blitz them at any second considering that he blitzed God Serena before August could react. Plus they'd need to land the hit first and Acnologia could probably tank it anyway considering that the fireball Irene fired did nothing.
 

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I've already contacted @comicstar so that he creates it so if he won't do it, I will in a few hours :)
 

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I meant that would be extreme downgrading for lacus to be compared with Jura.

Hybrion did nothing against a springgan. Ezra took one out. So unless hybrion has done something to be placed near Ezra I will say its downgrading of Ezra.

Yes you are right about circular logic.
Let me make one for you.
1) ajeel is far above Serena.
2) erza can handle ajeel
3) thus Ezra is far above Serena.
No one should agree with this. Right?
Oh okay, thanks for clarifying. Sorry for misunderstanding. As for your example, I agree. Nobody should be thinking that is the case.

So let us look at what is stated
1) springgan are relatively equal
2) hybrion has shown nothing on a level of any springgan. Nor can he ever hope to defeat one from what he has shown.
Thus Serena and ajeel should be around eachother.
And Ezra should be far above hybrion.
Well, you see, I'm one of the few who actually don't buy the first point. As of the 2nd point, while it is true that he didn't have that many feats for us to compare, August was quite amused by Hyberion's magic. One can say this is proof that he is somewhat Spriggan Level. We'll just disagree here I guess.

Your assessment did not include that ajeel rendering a cqc mage pretty much useless.
Also it didn't include how high you rank Jupiter cannon. I dont rank it high. to me it is a possibility that both Ezra and ajeel were hit by it.
And passive and active mean nothing because of both were hurt due to it. Unless you are saying active interference was so strong that Ezra couldn't replicate it without tiring herself
If instead of Ezra was given a free shot like ajeel was given. this fight would have been cut seriously short. In fact I also think Jupiter hurt ajeel less as compared to how much Ezra was damaged thanks to marin.

And while ajeel was compete immune to what was 90% of Ezra magic. Ezra had one move which was medium in power and could counter some ajeel moves.
So to me
Weak erza attack. useless
Medium Ezra attack. Only one available to counter and one to hurt.
Strong Ezra attack. Only Nakayami

When things get serious
Her benzukuru, armudura. useless.
Her eyes useless
Her post t's armor useless

Ajeel was not on ground which basically stopped him from the sand pit every other attack he could do. I don't think that sand pit will be above any attack he actually did against Ezra.

So how much is ajeel disadvantaged here.
Wind sword repels some his attack.
Water sword mean Ezra can actually hurt him(that is not advantage lol)
Not being able to use sand pit

And that's it.
On the other hand
Ezra disadvantage
Sand body most of Ezra attacks other than water sword and Nakagami useless
Her eyes useless
His ability to drain magic when grabbing her

Ezra has no options at all due to this match up. it would be same if she was as strong as lacus
Because she still wont have that aoe and nor that nose

To me Ezra is seriously more at disadvantage then ajeel. While ajeel only had a disadvantage of wind sword.
Jupiter cannon shouldn't be that much stronger than GMG kagura strong form. Which is canonically compared with Jupiter.
Ajeel should be able to do much more damage then that with marin help

Fight with ajeel didn't show what Ezra was capable of.
Her power unknown
Her durability unknown.

She could probably beat Wahl or Serena. Because both uses brute strength
Serena has no advantage over Ezra. Especially since Ezra is actually more versatile than he is.
Well, I did mention that Erza's physical attacks would be rendered useless by Ajeel's Sand Body if that is what you mean. Anyways, although most of Erza's attack didn't work on Ajeel, Ajeel also wasn't able to use most of his magic. For example, Sands of Death, Ant Lion Pit, and Sand Golem are all ground-based. We've seen Erza's armor help her fight in the air but Ajeel was restricted from using the majority of his magic.

As for Erza having an advantage, I think her water sword negating Ajeel's Sand Body is somewhat of a direct counter, so it could be called an advantage. But even besides that, Erza's wind sword was able to completely dispel Ajeel's sand for a while, so that is also an advantage for her. Anyways, like I said, Erza may not have many advantages but neither did Ajeel.

As for the Jupiter Cannon, I don't think it should be taken lightly. Many people disregard it but it was shown to almost take out a whole Alvarez's fleet. I would easily put it on the level of Mirajane's Satan Soul where she nukes her opponents with energy blasts.

Since we probably won't agree, I will let you have the last word if you'd like.
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I challenge all of you to provide feats, and if you do use hype to use it all around not nitpick what you want, 5 characters that you feel should be considered the top 5 in the Fairy Tail universe. Provide a legit argument for those feats presented and as a group people could decide which argument is the best and decide who truly is the top 5 in the Universe. Then after that we will proceed to the next 5 for top 10. Continue until the list is complete.

If you want to take up this challenge then all you have to do is quote this comment and Pick your top 5 and make the argument as to why using evidence and can use hype if you want to.

Rules:

-None of your picks can simply have hype behind them without any panels or feats to back it up.

Ex: Meaning you can't say Wolfhiem is a city buster without any city busting feats to go along with that.

-If you use hype you must use all Hype or no hype.

Ex: You can't say the GOI were hyped to be stronger than Jura and use that but say you aren't going to use the hype that all the Spriggan except for Irene and August are on the same level. Meaning you would have to use both or neither.

-Speculation is fine as long as there is some evidence to support or back you claim up. The evidence has to be relevant to you proposed speculation.


NO Bashing---Be Respectful

If you disagree with someone then you need to provide a counter argument with evidence. You can't just say you disagree. An argument must always be provided if you disagree with someone/something written.

I will say again that you post can't just be a wall of text without any sources like panels, tweets, etc. If you are going to say Hiro said something then the tweet must be presented or it must be left out of your argument.

Also none of that setting limits for characters that don't exist.

Meaning you can't say Brandish Mass magic or Dimira time magic won't work on someone more powerful than them without any evidence to back it up.
Well, if we're going to decide as a community, I would like to clarify if we're including dragons. If we are, my list tends to differ from many people.
 

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Also, I don't agree with Zeref being superior to August or Irene. I guess you claim so because he's immortal, but he would be above Acno for that matter, and he's not. I'd say Zeref is bellow August and Irene, high spriggan level, but immortal.
I don't get why Zeref is being underestimated like this and people are chucking down his strength to simple 'immortality', we've already seen he knows a lot of magic, he's obviously the strongest human mage and no one is close to his level, at all.
The guy can literally stop time, and his seems to be instantaneous unlike Dimaria's since he froze time on Cube immediately he entered to see Natsu
His Death Orbs are also powerful enough to literally wipe out life, and his waves of death are practically unblockable, that's like the greatest hax in this series, since the only reason Natsu survived was because of his scarf, which is obviously special.
He's able to easily bring mages like Ultear, Rusty Rose and Kain to their knees, and it's even suggested that he's the only one who can bring any of the Spriggan 12 to reason if they defy him. These include the likes of August and Eileen.
He can also regenerate, which means that practically any attacks would be useless against him.
So yes, Zeref is currently the strongest HUMAN mage alive.
EDIT: He was also the one who taught the Fairy Tail founders their magic and taught Law to Mavis, so adding on to my first point of him knowing a lot of magic
 
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1). Acnologia

2). Dimaria

3). August

4). Irene

5). Zeref
 

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My list what is top 5
i)Ankhseram(Zeref is this powerful due to him)
ii)Acnologia.
iii)Half dead Igneel(i am interested to see how much fight END gave to Igneel.Probably the scars on Igneel's face are from END).
iv)END
v)Zeref
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---
1). Acnologia

2). Dimaria

3). August

4). Irene

5). Zeref
Why is Dimaria above Zeref,Irene and August?Zeref can cancel her Age Seal with his own Time Magic like Ultear did and kill her with his Ankhseram Death Wave.And only Irene is the lone Spriggan who can defeat August.
 

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Oh okay, thanks for clarifying. Sorry for misunderstanding. As for your example, I agree. Nobody should be thinking that is the case.



Well, you see, I'm one of the few who actually don't buy the first point. As of the 2nd point, while it is true that he didn't have that many feats for us to compare, August was quite amused by Hyberion's magic. One can say this is proof that he is somewhat Spriggan Level. We'll just disagree here I guess.



Well, I did mention that Erza's physical attacks would be rendered useless by Ajeel's Sand Body if that is what you mean. Anyways, although most of Erza's attack didn't work on Ajeel, Ajeel also wasn't able to use most of his magic. For example, Sands of Death, Ant Lion Pit, and Sand Golem are all ground-based. We've seen Erza's armor help her fight in the air but Ajeel was restricted from using the majority of his magic.

As for Erza having an advantage, I think her water sword negating Ajeel's Sand Body is somewhat of a direct counter, so it could be called an advantage. But even besides that, Erza's wind sword was able to completely dispel Ajeel's sand for a while, so that is also an advantage for her. Anyways, like I said, Erza may not have many advantages but neither did Ajeel.

As for the Jupiter Cannon, I don't think it should be taken lightly. Many people disregard it but it was shown to almost take out a whole Alvarez's fleet. I would easily put it on the level of Mirajane's Satan Soul where 8she nukes her opponents with energy blasts.

Since we probably won't agree, I will let you have the last word if you'd like.


Well, if we're going to decide as a community, I would like to clarify if we're including dragons. If we are, my list tends to differ from many people.
Please Don't stop talking. You are making some good points.
You can disagree with hype. Some hype are just plain silly like GMG Jura can take on GMG Ezra plus Mira I mean that was really funny.
But the fact is the stated things are against your position. and your position doesn't really have any evidence
For example should you really use August being slightly impressed by hybrion distant vampire touch. And rank him near a springgan
While forgetting nienhart wetting himself when Ezra got angry.

Water sword allowed Ezra to bypass ajeel advantage of sand body and actually able to hurt him. Its not exactly an advantage here. More like it allows Ezra to fight.
why can't ajeel do sand of death in the ship. He can cover the entire town with sand. But he can't do sand of death in air. That seems weird.
Same with golem thing.
Sand of death should be around the sand Ezra got caught in with help of marin. Other than the aoe
But still far below ajeel choke hold
Golem should be far below ajeel physical capabilities

For me
Nakagami > benzikuru > armudura > purgatory / wind and water > black wing armor
Sand world >> ajeel choke hold > sand of death > sand pit > golem
For me if ajeel didn't have such magical advantage then Ezra would have finished him benzukuru

I was talking about how sand world rendered Ezra eyes useless you don't mention this
 

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How about a different approach.

The Trinity are the strongest; & by Trinity, I mean the figurehead representative of the 3 main sides involved in the war. "The Dragon, The Human & The Immortal".

After them, the lackeys directly under them & those on their general lvl follows. That's August, Irene, Laxus, Jellal etc.

After that, the useful -- those able to make a difference like Grampa, Mira....

Then the fodders -- like the memorable ones Neinhart humiliated... These ones could perhaps make a decent impression; but ultimately, they are fodders.

Finally we have the super fodders -- essentially innocent bystanders like that one dude Bradman instantly drained of blood.
 
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