You forgot that TO Cheila had God slaying magic, facing a God which helped her a lot. And laxus faced an anti-him spriggan, so you're comparing two opposite things. Laxus still 2/3 tiers above TO Cheila.
Edit : Imagine if the enemy of Laxus would have been a thunder dragon (spriggan level), he would have obliterated him without any difficulty.
This is by far the best ranking I have seen. I will change very few things if I was ranking.
Just maybe rank the spriggans more finely. For instance, are you putting Dimaria in Tier 4 or 6.
I will put Jacob in Tier 5.
Elman, Freed in tier 8
Mira in tier 6. Why is Mira in tier 7?
Yeah sorry, I didn't want to create 15 tiers ( I'd do that but I'm lazy ) yeah you're probably right, there are some differences between spriggans but overall except for a few of them (serena,invel,august) they are more or less at the same level.
Don't overrate Mira, she didn't fight a lot since the start of the manga and she couldn't even solo a Demon's gate. S-Class level means absolutely nothing at this time of the Manga.
You forgot that TO Cheila had God slaying magic, facing a God which helped her a lot. And laxus faced an anti-him spriggan, so you're comparing two opposite things. Laxus still 2/3 tiers above TO Cheila.
Edit : Imagine if the enemy of Laxus would have been a thunder dragon (spriggan level), he would have obliterated him without any difficulty.
Yeah sorry, I didn't want to create 15 tiers ( I'd do that but I'm lazy ) yeah you're probably right, there are some differences between spriggans but overall except for a few of them (serena,invel,august) they are more or less at the same level.
Don't overrate Mira, she didn't fight a lot since the start of the manga and she couldn't even solo a Demon's gate. S-Class level means absolutely nothing at this time of the Manga.
I may be wrong, but its not about S-class. She has the new take-over demon Seilah. So she can use macro and her self-limiter removed mode too.
ALso, ppl have different styles of fighting. For instance, Natsu, Erza, Gajeel,Laxus fight with full force from the beginning while Gray always takes a little time to wake up. Gildarts is more easy going and doesn't mind getting hit a few times b4 getting serious.
Mira is totally different who always wants to convert everyone, so doesn't fight for a long time even if she keeps getting beaten. I don't know, maybe that's why she gives the impression of being weaker.
I accept the point she couldn't solo a Spriggan, but now she has the same Spriggan under control.
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Just thinking Jacob was about to clap against Acno and August stopped him. So clapping wouldn't have worked against Acno. If August had not stopped him there are 3 possibilities.
clapping won't work even if Acno did nothing, or
there was a way Acno could break it even if he was transferred to Jacob's dimension
he foresaw that Acno will attack him before he could finish his clap if he continued. This seems highly unlikely
1 or 2 seem much more likely. DOes that mean hax magic doesn't work against strong opponents? In that case, all the discussion regarding hax-magic users like Dimaria is wrong!!
My view of the Spriggans' power has changed a bit given the recent chapter, so here's how I currently see the Spriggans:
Spriggan 12 Power Rankings thus far: Top Tier:
1. August High Tier:
2. Invel
3. God Serena Mid-High Tier:
4. Wahl
5. Bradman Mid Tier:
6. Dimaria
7. Brandish
8. Neinhart Low Tier:
9. Ajeel
10. Jacob
Jacob was really disappointing as a Spriggan and its a bit sad to think that he only lasted that long due to his magic which is a bit hax-y and Natsu was holding back. I mean, the guy got sent flying by Makarov but he didn't take too much damage from that attack from the looks of it, but Natsu delivered a huge blow to take him out. By no means does this mean Jacob is necessarily weak, but in terms of his actual battling power once his stealth magic is beaten, he goes down fairly easily.
I've still got Natsu at the top of my list of power rankings protagonist wise after 479 too, he demonstrated he is still incredibly powerful and essentially one-shotted Jacob as other attacks dealt to Jacob previously did next to nothing, so Natsu is definitely top-tier among the protags for me, and if I was to compare him to the Spriggan tier, I'd put him in the mid-high or high tier for power rankings in comparing him to the Spriggans.
You forgot that TO Cheila had God slaying magic, facing a God which helped her a lot. And laxus faced an anti-him spriggan, so you're comparing two opposite things. Laxus still 2/3 tiers above TO Cheila.
Edit : Imagine if the enemy of Laxus would have been a thunder dragon (spriggan level), he would have obliterated him without any difficulty.
Yeah sorry, I didn't want to create 15 tiers ( I'd do that but I'm lazy ) yeah you're probably right, there are some differences between spriggans but overall except for a few of them (serena,invel,august) they are more or less at the same level.
Don't overrate Mira, she didn't fight a lot since the start of the manga and she couldn't even solo a Demon's gate. S-Class level means absolutely nothing at this time of the Manga.
It doesn't say a lot that Chelia's magic is effective against a God. Dragon Slayer Magic didn't do any damage to dragons as well.
Laxus couldn't do anything against Wahl before he used Red Lightning. Red Lightning is super effective against Wahl.
Overrate Mira? Lol. Mirajane is even stronger than Erza now. Satan Soul and Requip have always been more or less equal. And now Mira has Macro, which is really hax.
Why not just wait till we see what Gajeel os capable of after the timeskip. It seems that the manga will move to the north so we wont wait too long... And oneshotting would mean that Mira if far far above Gajeel
My Rankings:-
God Tier
Ankhseram/Acnologia
Acnologia/Ankhseram
END
Zeref
Top Tier
August
High Tier
DF Natsu
Neinhart(If He Really Fights Jellal,Erza and Kagura alone)
laxus/Jellal
Jellal/laxus
Base Natsu/Brandish/Invel/Dimaria with Her Time Magic/God Serena
Other Spriggans
GOI Level
Gray
Gajeel(With DF He may be Spriggan Level)
Gildarts
Hyberion
Wolfheim
Warrod
Wizard Saint Level
Jura/Makarov
Makarov/Jura/Bluenote
Erza
Mirajane(With Macro She may Go Higher)
Kagura
Minerva
Sting
Rogue
Freed
Lucy
Juvia
Wendy with Her DF
S Class
Olga
Lyon
Rufus
Elfman
Bacchus
Yukino
Slight Edited It.Some of The Wizards should be placed Higher.Bluenote is in The List now.
My Rankings:-
God Tier
Ankhseram/Acnologia
Acnologia/Ankhseram
END
Zeref
Top Tier
August
High Tier
DF Natsu
Neinhart(If He Really Fights Jellal,Erza and Kagura alone)
laxus/Jellal
Jellal/laxus
Base Natsu/Brandish/Invel/Dimaria with Her Time Magic
Other Spriggans
GOI Level
Gray
Gajeel(With DF He may be Spriggan Level)
Gildarts
GOI
Jura
Wizard Saint Level
Makarov
Erza
Mirajane(With Macro She may Go Higher)
Kagura
Minerva
Sting
Rogue
Olga
Lyon
S Class
Rufus
Freed
Lucy
Juvia
Wendy
Yukino
Elfman
I agree with that one, but I will do some changes. In my opinion Gray and Gajeel should be near Erza/Mirajane level and Juvia near Lyon. Also, I will write Baccus between Minerva and Sting.
However, why you wrote GOI two times?
My Rankings:-
God Tier
Ankhseram/Acnologia
Acnologia/Ankhseram
END
Zeref
Top Tier
August
High Tier
DF Natsu
Neinhart(If He Really Fights Jellal,Erza and Kagura alone)
laxus/Jellal
Jellal/laxus
Base Natsu/Brandish/Invel/Dimaria with Her Time Magic
Other Spriggans
GOI Level
Gray
Gajeel(With DF He may be Spriggan Level)
Gildarts
GOI
Jura
Wizard Saint Level
Makarov
Erza
Mirajane(With Macro She may Go Higher)
Kagura
Minerva
Sting
Rogue
Olga
Lyon
S Class
Rufus
Freed
Lucy
Juvia
Wendy
Yukino
Elfman
I agree with that one, but I will do some changes. In my opinion Gray and Gajeel should be near Erza/Mirajane level and Juvia near Lyon. Also, I will write Baccus between Minerva and Sting.
However, why you wrote GOI two times?
First GOI is GOI Level.In That List Wizards who are there are on The Level of GOI.Second GOI are the Actual ones i.e.Hyberion,Wolfheim and Warrod.Some People say Gray and Gajeel are above Erza.Bacchus should be below Elfman.After all Elfman defeated Him.
First GOI is GOI Level.In That List Wizards who are there are on The Level of GOI.Second GOI are the Actual ones i.e.Hyberion,Wolfheim and Warrod.Some People say Gray and Gajeel are above Erza.Bacchus should be below Elfman.After all Elfman defeated Him.
Elfman endured Bacchus punches he never actually defeated Bacchus. Elfman never landed a hit on Bacchus so there is no reason to assume Elfman is stronger then Bacchus.
I agree with that one, but I will do some changes. In my opinion Gray and Gajeel should be near Erza/Mirajane level and Juvia near Lyon. Also, I will write Baccus between Minerva and Sting.
However, why you wrote GOI two times?
Don't overrate Mira, she didn't fight a lot since the start of the manga and she couldn't even solo a Demon's gate. S-Class level means absolutely nothing at this time of the Manga.
I am stuck between these two arguing about Mira. One thinks Mira is lowest tier, other thinks Mira can one shot Gajeel.
Balance guys, Mira is just like any standard strong FT mage, she is impressive in battle even though she voids fighting, and she is nowhere that strong that she can one shot Gajeel.....lol.
Been out for some time. Mystogan and Laxus both acknowledged each other's strength. From the way the story went it seems as if they were evenly matched. So why would Mystogan emphasizing Erza's ability to fight him mean nothing? Yet Erza praising Natsu to be as strong as her even though she has whopped him every time they fought in the past. Most of the time Erza is fighting someone else while Natsu loses to big bosses until df is activated.
You say Max got strong during the 7 year skip. What do you think everyone has done also in the seven years? If no one else got stronger, then Max would be the new king and dominate the gmg. He did not, meaning everyone got stronger. Ft was last place in the gmg because everyone got stronger too. Bacchus could not break Elfman's lizard armor. Who do you think could smash it with their bare hands? Therefore it was a bad matchup. Against anyone with skin and bone they'd be beaten by Bacchus. Physical fighting skills is what makes him dangerous. No one matches him there. Plus his moves are unreadable when he's drunk. As I've mentioned before, watch anime episode 161 and 162. Erza is shocked by his strength. Gray and Mira were shocked by his abilities also. His speed is dangerous, plus martial arts that make him practically untouchable. All s class mages were always stronger than the five original ds. But from what we've seen after the second time skip, Natsu seems to be at least at Erza's level now. Erza had a Jupiter assist. Natsu had Makarov assist. Both had the power to defeat their enemies. Natsu might not have needed an assist, but because he didn't want to destroy the guild or town, he held back. So in this current arc Natsu might already be stronger than Erza, magic wise. Physical strength goes to Erza. The only one I can imagine being physically stronger than her would be Laxus. But something tells me Erza is the strongest in physical strength alone.
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I don't know if Makarov belongs in the top ranking. He was talking about how the spriggan are so strong that Serena, the strongest Ishgar Mage, was just another one of the twelve. Meaning that Makarov should be weaker than any spriggan. He might not have known his members strength after the time skip, but he knew his own abilities, and was gonna give his life up to Ajeel. Maybe the punch he gave Jacob was only capable of sending him flying, but not able to beat Jacob on his own. Or has Makarov been underestimating himself all this time? Doubt it. Might have been just to show that is capable of hurting a spriggan.
No problem, you're the only person who seemingly gives me a decent debate :/. That's not the point, you claimed Laxus was taking Erza serious when he didn't even acknowledge her, regardless of what Mystogan thought Laxus himself did not think of Erza as an contender for Fairy Tail's strongest. In short Laxus didn't Erza seriously in their confrontation. As for Natsu and Erza she complimented regardless because she knows their fights weren't serious, every time Erza beat down Natsu it was a gag fight.
That's not the point I was trying to make, I know everyone got stronger you missed the point completely. Your whole thing for Bacchus is that he got hype for fighting Erza, he fought Erza from 7 years ago, she is literally Max tier currently that's doesn't justify him being that strong. As for Elfman, Bacchus lost because his offensive power was lacking not because of his bare hands, you think a brawler like Natsu or Gajeel couldn't break through that? Jura would probably fuck up Elfman with a chop in Lizard form, Bacchus lost due to his underwhelming offensive power. Again you're literally hanging on to some of the MINOR HYPE given by Erza, Gray Mira. You claimed that Bacchus will be stronger than NATSU, GRAY, GAJEEL, STING AND ROUGE and all you have to back yourself up is some minor hype he received. You are easily impressed none of what you said even implies or shows Bacchus will be stronger than the people you listed above, he will be strong but to list him above multiple people who have outperformed is outrageous. Natsu is above Erza, but I'm not discussing the current arc.
You mean the same way Juvia one shot Lyon with a similar dive bombing kick that knocked him out in anime episode 158? Or same way Mira was beating Elfman extremely easily then after getting caught off guard by the fake marriage talk, gets hit on the face and then defeated. It wasn't shown that Mira got hit on the face, but she did have a band aid there after when Erza was asking how Elfman and Evergreen beat her. Mira said she was caught off guard because they told her they were getting married. Lyon was caught off guard because he saw Juvia plus her panties.
Bacchus was caught off guard by Ichiya's gay pose and was defeated. He also got caught off guard from Sting who came from above and behind. Elfman was at his limit and was forced to transform back to his normal self against Bacchus. If anything Bacchus didn't have to hit Elfman either. How many mages do you know that could crack that lizard armor with their bare hands? Erza, Gray Mira were commenting during that fight. Erza shocked saying he got even stronger from the last time they fought and stunned at seeing Bacchus pass Elfman once so quickly and landed 7 hits. Gray said he could see why Erza had a hard time with him, and got shocked to hear that he gets much stronger , faster and unreadable when he drinks. Mira said that Elfman's lizard armor was the best choice against a Mage that uses hand to hand combat. So that was a bad matchup for Bacchus. Same way Elfman or Gajeel wouldn't be able to smash or cut Juvia's water body.
The fight against Elfman demonstrated Bacchus has the abilities of an s class Mage. Unless every Mage has super strong armor harder than regular metal, they'd take damage from Bacchus. When it comes to fighting skills they said his moves are unreadable, so hitting him would be difficult. He is a martial artist. So he might not be the most destructive due to his type of magic, but he has the best physical fighting skills to keep from getting hit. Other than that he's proven in his fight with Elfman that his speed and power are great too. His own metal armor was shattering to pieces from hitting Elfman. The destructive power to slice, smash or blow things up is what he lacks. But if he really wanted he didn't have to touch Elfman the same way Elfman couldn't hit him either. It was a bad matchup. Before the lizard armor Elfman was getting f**ked up similar to how Mira was beating him.
Lyon is not weak regardless if Juvia knocked him out without even using magic and did so with one kick. That does not mean Juvia is super strong either.
Mira got defeated by Elfman and Evergreen, but she isn't weak. It does not mean Elfman is strong either. His power punch was stopped easily with Mira so relaxed holding his fist, while Elfman was shaking from putting lots of power in his punch.
Why discredit Bacchus for getting caught off guard, but not Mira or Lyon. That's why getting caught off guard does not count. Otherwise others would be saying "Juvia one shot Lyon. She is stronger than Gray and since Gray is as strong as Natsu, Juvia is stronger than him too!" Same with Elfman. He is the slowest and lacks the intelligence and fighting skills to be good, but no one says he beat Mira so he is at least as strong as Laxus. That's just wrong.
Mira one shotting Gajeel? LMAO Gajeel is getting underestimated, he's stronger than Mira.
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No problem, you're the only person who seemingly gives me a decent debate :/. That's not the point, you claimed Laxus was taking Erza serious when he didn't even acknowledge her, regardless of what Mystogan thought Laxus himself did not think of Erza as an contender for Fairy Tail's strongest. In short Laxus didn't Erza seriously in their confrontation. As for Natsu and Erza she complimented regardless because she knows their fights weren't serious, every time Erza beat down Natsu it was a gag fight.
That's not the point I was trying to make, I know everyone got stronger you missed the point completely. Your whole thing for Bacchus is that he got hype for fighting Erza, he fought Erza from 7 years ago, she is literally Max tier currently that's doesn't justify him being that strong. As for Elfman, Bacchus lost because his offensive power was lacking not because of his bare hands, you think a brawler like Natsu or Gajeel couldn't break through that? Jura would probably fuck up Elfman with a chop in Lizard form, Bacchus lost due to his underwhelming offensive power. Again you're literally hanging on to some of the MINOR HYPE given by Erza, Gray Mira. You claimed that Bacchus will be stronger than NATSU, GRAY, GAJEEL, STING AND ROUGE and all you have to back yourself up is some minor hype he received. You are easily impressed none of what you said even implies or shows Bacchus will be stronger than the people you listed above, he will be strong but to list him above multiple people who have outperformed is outrageous. Natsu is above Erza, but I'm not discussing the current arc.
Ok that Laxus comparison was a bad example. Natsu was never as strong as Erza until the avatar arc. He's probably stronger than her now. She said he was as strong as her, but they never fought to find out if it's true or not. Regardless if they fought or if who would have won, as long as they looked evenly matched it would be true. But it never happened. Recently watched the Edolas arc. Natsu and Gray were afraid of Erza Knightwalker, but it turned out to be Erza Scarlet that was dressed as the other. They couldn't believe Scarlet lost, but later knew it was actually her and not Knightwalker. The way they see Erza obviously means a lot. Anyway that was the past.
Erza fought Bacchus many times, none of them we've seen. Erza reappears 7 years later, everyone got stronger except those from Tenrou. Erza has not fought or seen Bacchus since then until they enter the gmg. How do I know this? She was shocked by how much he improved during the gmg. The same way she was shocked seeing Kagura's abilities. Jura would not chop Elfman the way he did Orga because of the lizard armor protecting him. Bacchus own metal armor was shattering into pieces from hitting a completely still Elfman. So I wouldn't underestimate his strength that much. It's true that Bacchus does not have swords, weapons, or magic to smash, cut, or blow up stuff. His magic isn't the destructive kind. What he lacks in destructive magic, he makes up for with skills. He is one of the smartest fighters, not getting hit, has unreadable offense and defense, physical strength and speed worthy of s class. The type of magic what's lacking a bit. But he was shattering his own armor, so he is strong. The lizard armor is just that much stronger than regular armor. Against hand to hand combat mages, that was advantageous. If anything Bacchus could have simply not hit Elfman either. I don't know anyone who can transform into something that hard. Everyone one else fights with normal skin and bone, so they won't be able to take his attacks. His physical strength he played around stomped the chariot which sent the other chariots jumping too. Erza was freaked by that strength. It's the form of magic that is lacking. Bacchus comes off as a joke, a drunk, but fears or no feats you should be able to see his strength from performance. You wouldn't say Lyon had a draw with Kagura means they were of equal strength. If there was no time limit, which Lyon used to play jokes on Milana, he'd have lost. The time saved him. Kagura was a millimeter or a second away from smashing him with her sheathed sword. Same way Minerva caught Kagura off guard when Kgura was fighting Erza. That does not mean Minerva is stronger than Kagura for defeating her. Erza did all the work.
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Why is Minerva rated so high? All she did was beat the crap out of Lucy in the gmg. She lost to a crippled Erza, Kyoka takes her by force and turns her into a demon to give her more strength, Minerva fights Erza when Kyoka had to leave, Erza snaps her out of it and is dragging Minerva around to find the face control room.
I could never understand people that give a low rank and underestimate Mira and Lucy .
I would took example from erza
Lets just forget about the past 1 years . Mira had gotten stronger now and she had a freaking macro .
There's no way erza or GAJEEL can defeat her .
Just becoz you like the other character that doesn't necessarily means that they're stronger than the other and just becoz Mira didn't fight much didn't means that she is WEAKER than other character .
As for Lucy , IMO she surpass even natsu in tartaros arc .
But of course after the 1 years natsu has surpass lucy but still ... I could never understand how people could rank her so low .
Erza didn't even shown anything in alvarev arc and she is consider stronger than Lucy? Gajeel and the other? Please it is a FACTS that Lucy already surpass THEM in tartaros and will stays that ways until we saw what the other character like gajeel and erza could do to SURPASS HER in this arc or maybe won't at all .
There are many factors to consider in ranking. Physical and magical power are first to come to mind. The condition or element of the magic plays a big role whether it is so effective that it's considered bs(hax), or if it's ineffective due to the element of magic. An example would be that even though Gajeel is likely physically and magically stronger than Juvia, metal does nothing to water. Ice and fire can stop water. But ice is weaker than metal also. One doesn't always beat them all.
Skills play a very big role also. Lucy is the best example. Lucy has tremendous magic power, having summoned 5 cs at once. In the Tartaros arc she summoned 3, which is considered a forbidden technique because it would take a lot of magic to do and would kill the summoner. But she isn't considered near the top because of her soft and clumsy nature and because of her lack of skills. She freaked when Jacob threw a knife at her and didn't have the mental skills to react and counter or dodge.
How much drive and determination is the last piece that gives them that extra boost in evenly matched fights. You know this as nakama or feelings.
How well rounded they are in these aspects should determine their rank. Losing to one person or having difficulty to one does not make them weaker if it's because their magic is ineffective due to immunity against another magic. How well they matchup against everyone overall is what counts.
Hax makes ranking difficult. That's why I never liked it. If there was another Mage with as little mp as Max and could only stop time 10 seconds at a time, that would be enough to chop their heads off. Unless their opponent has a hard shell or armor to make it impossible to damage, or if the opponent is also time Mage. Or if there was some ability where magic has no effect on them, another hax.
Lucy has potential, but still needs to work on her fighting skills. She has become a bit more aggressive which is good, but still not there yet.
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Guys do you think Gildarts went all out yet? Is his magic power so strong causing him to not be able to keep it under control or does he suck at controlling his magic? Did he really use his full magic power on Tenrou or was he holding back because the others might've gotten caught in his attacks? He certainly did not look tired after his fight.
Can somebody please answer me something? Why is it that when dividing the mages by power you place Natsu is different positions like Natsu FDKM, Natsu Base, Natsu LFD Mode, Natsu DF?
I dont see Ezra with different types of requips in different spots or Marijane with and without Seilah takeover.
Am i missing something? Natsu(base, DF, LFD, and FDKM) should be counted at one person because its his power.
Hiro has always established that Erza is stronger than every woman in the Fairy Tail guild. Erza's feats and hype outclasses Lucy's feats and hype. Lucy's purpose in the manga isn't to be a powerhouse like Natsu or Erza. Just like @Firepower said, Lucy has incredible potential, but she's not there yet. I personally believe that at the end of the manga, Lucy will indeed be more powerful than Erza though.
The only way I can see Lucy overpowering Erza in a fight is through the use of the CSK. However, the CSK is a non factor when we compare Lucy and Erza. Only reason she sacrificed Aquarius to summon the CSK is because her and her friend's life were at stake, so she was incredibly desperate at the time.
Can somebody please answer me something? Why is it that when dividing the mages by power you place Natsu is different positions like Natsu FDKM, Natsu Base, Natsu LFD Mode, Natsu DF?
I dont see Ezra with different types of requips in different spots or Marijane with and without Seilah takeover.
Am i missing something? Natsu(base, DF, LFD, and FDKM) should be counted at one person because its his power.
The 'FDKM Natsu' that people have on their lists is Natsu using Igneel's power, which he used and nearly defeated Zeref with before happy intervened, and was a bit separate from Natsu's actual power. As we know from the recent chapter, FDKM is from Natsu's own power, but he used Igneel's power to fuel a stronger version of it when he fought with Zeref, and thats the separate Natsu that some people have on their lists. But Natsu having FDKM with his own power on top of DF and LFD really does make him one of Ishgar's strongest mages, as he essentially one-shotted Jacob.
Can somebody please answer me something? Why is it that when dividing the mages by power you place Natsu is different positions like Natsu FDKM, Natsu Base, Natsu LFD Mode, Natsu DF?
I dont see Ezra with different types of requips in different spots or Marijane with and without Seilah takeover.
Am i missing something? Natsu(base, DF, LFD, and FDKM) should be counted at one person because its his power.
I totally see your point. And you are right. I never understood why people really separated Natsu's different forms. When ranking characters, we should always use their full potential as their overall power. At this point, I am not too thrilled that Natsu has, yet again another power-up, in addition to 3 others which are LFD, DF, and Igneel's Power. The only problem with this, which may very well be the reason why people separate Natsu's powers, is that it covers such a wide range of tiers. Base Natsu to FDK Natsu is such a big jump especially from just one-shotting Bluenote + fighting Avatar fodders + fighting Bakel to one-shotting a Spriggan. Like you mentioned, someone like Wendy doesn't get separated into Base and DF because she will only increase by 1 tier if that.
Now, I've mentioned in a past thread dating back to like 15 chapters ago, that I've always considered Jacob Lessio not worthy of being a Spriggan. Some users disagreed with me but I always saw Jacob as either All or Nothing. In this case, Jacob ended up contradicting himself when he called everyone fodders because apparently he is one. This brings me to my last point.
Because Hiro Mashima hasn't been able to convince us that Jacob is a high-tier Spriggan with feats, we as viewers must also take into account that Jacob was indeed one-shotted by an attack that notably took out the War God, Ikusa-Tsunagi. The real question that comes up in my mind here was, is Jacob really a fodder based on his disappointing feats or are we all interpreting it wrong and that Jacob was actually really strong but unfortunately was taken out by someone on a whole different tier? Similar to how Acnologia one-shotted God Serena although that situation is a little more defined. Also, because FDKM is not Igneel's power, is it stronger than DF?
Even though I wasn't particularly a fan of last chapter, there still needs to be more information before any of us can really rank the Spriggans or Natsu in particular.
) yeah you're probably right, there are some differences between spriggans but overall except for a few of them (serena,invel,august) they are more or less at the same level.
