Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Crimson Ice]

No, that is exactly my point. Based on the panel, it seems everyone is used to Laxus running off by himself. To them, it was normal, that is why nobody cared. The only thing that registered in their minds is the excuse Laxus made but they figured he would be alright by himself because that is who he is. Gray went to Laxus for reasons that nobody knows except Gray himself and Hiro Mashima. When I said the others were doing other stuff, I'm talking more like deciding sleeping arrangements, eating, gossiping about other members, devising a plan, or something Gray was not particularly interested in.

Nobody is used to Laxus running off by himself , you pulled that out of your ass instead of admitting you're wrong. When has Laxus ever had a reason to randomly run off by himself and when has he ever done this? You say nobody cared but a couple of posts ago you say Carla knew something wasn't right, stop contradicting yourself. No Gray went because he wasn't fooled, you have literally nothing to back you up so you resort to spouting BS. Eating and gossiping? More BS spewed by you, the only person actually doing something along those lines was Juvia. The wayy you reaching to prove a point

--- Double Post Merged, May 4, 2016, Original Post Date: May 4, 2016 ---

Not debating Grand Chariot one-shotting them. The energy output necessary to disperse clouds across the horizon is huge, and Jellal could use that energy for attacks.

The energy used to disperse it apart of the GC move, hence that energy applies to the attack. You said you know who Rax is, are you on another other forums or is Rax on this site?

 

[XXEliteXXAceXX]

Nobody is used to Laxus running off by himself , you pulled that out of your ass instead of admitting you're wrong. When has Laxus ever had a reason to randomly run off by himself and when has he ever done this? You say nobody cared but a couple of posts ago you say Carla knew something wasn't right, stop contradicting yourself. No Gray went because he wasn't fooled, you have literally nothing to back you up so you resort to spouting BS. Eating and gossiping? More BS spewed by you, the only person actually doing something along those lines was Juvia. The wayy you reaching to prove a point

Everyone in the guild is used to Laxus running off. That is fact, not my opinion. It was shown in the manga numerous times. The only members Laxus ever spends time with are the Raijinshuu. Laxus wasn't present during Fairy Tail's war with Phantom Lord. Laxus was gone for a long period of time before coming back to Fairy Tail just to start a civil war within the guild. Laxus goes off by himself and appeared just in time during Tartaros' attack. You seem to forget a lot of important details.

I never contradicted myself. Carla knew something wasn't right. That doesn't mean she cares. Just like how Carla had visions of something wrong about Edolas, Mercurius Castle, and Tenrou Island. Did she care? Maybe or maybe not. Even on Tenrou Island, everyone sensed an abnormal presence (Acnologia coming), but that doesn't mean they care for him. So, I don't understand your logic.

No, it's not that Gray wasn't fooled. He was curious because of Laxus' excuse. The point here is I don't know what everyone else was doing but the reason they didn't look after Laxus wasn't because they were fooled. You have yet to prove anything but you keep trying to make such an invalid point.

 

[Crimson Ice]

Everyone in the guild is used to Laxus running off. That is fact, not my opinion. It was shown in the manga numerous times. The only members Laxus ever spends time with are the Raijinshuu. Laxus wasn't present during Fairy Tail's war with Phantom Lord. Laxus was gone for a long period of time before coming back to Fairy Tail just to start a civil war within the guild. Laxus goes off by himself and appeared just in time during Tartaros' attack. You seem to forget a lot of important details.

I never contradicted myself. Carla knew something wasn't right. That doesn't mean she cares. Just like how Carla had visions of something wrong about Edolas, Mercurius Castle, and Tenrou Island. Did she care? Maybe or maybe not. Even on Tenrou Island, everyone sensed an abnormal presence (Acnologia coming), but that doesn't mean they care for him. So, I don't understand your logic.

No, it's not that Gray wasn't fooled. He was curious because of Laxus' excuse. The point here is I don't know what everyone else was doing but the reason they didn't look after Laxus wasn't because they were fooled. You have yet to prove anything but you keep trying to make such an invalid point.

That isn't a case of Laxus randomly running off, though. Him not being present with the Fairy Tail guild war with Phantom is different from him randomly making an excuse to run off while they were camping out together. That's not comparable at all, you are once again reaching.


Again implying the FT guild members don't care about Laxus is fucking laughable. Did you forget what manga this is? To say Carla wouldn't care about a guild member, let along a prominent like Laxus is a joke. You're once again reaching with your posts, comparing visions to this. While nobody BUT ZEREF sensed Acnogloiga and he cared to immediately leave the island, and the Magic Council heard about him and they cared. I BET YOU MONEY IF GILDARTS FELT ACNOLOGIA COMING HE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN EVERYONE OFF THE ISLAND ASAP. The reaching in your posts are awful, I'm surprised nobody has called you out on this.


No, he knew something was up and went to look for Laxus. Nobody knew shit was going on with Laxus and if they knew about his condition they would have gone to him. You're reaching so much in your posts and twist everything, it's fucking sad.

 

[XXEliteXXAceXX]

That isn't a case of Laxus randomly running off, though. Him not being present with the Fairy Tail guild war with Phantom is different from him randomly making an excuse to run off while they were camping out together. That's not comparable at all, you are once again reaching.


Again implying the FT guild members don't care about Laxus is fucking laughable. Did you forget what manga this is? To say Carla wouldn't care about a guild member, let along a prominent like Laxus is a joke. You're once again reaching with your posts, comparing visions to this. While nobody BUT ZEREF sensed Acnogloiga and he cared to immediately leave the island, and the Magic Council heard about him and they cared. I BET YOU MONEY IF GILDARTS FELT ACNOLOGIA COMING HE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN EVERYONE OFF THE ISLAND ASAP. The reaching in your posts are awful, I'm surprised nobody has called you out on this.


No, he knew something was up and went to look for Laxus. Nobody knew shit was going on with Laxus and if they knew about his condition they would have gone to him. You're reaching so much in your posts and twist everything, it's fucking sad.

You're missing the point. Whether Laxus ran off while Fairy Tail was camping has nothing to do with this. The fact that they are used to his absence means they know that Laxus likes to be alone for some unknown reason. Fairy Tail is used to Laxus being away just like Gildarts. That is all I said.

By "care", I'm not talking about "friendship" or "love". You're derailing here. The original topic was about whether Fairy Tail cared to check on Laxus or not. They didn't, which is why they think he can handle whatever comes to him. Nobody would go out of their way to search for someone who says they are hungry unless you're curious like Gray. Again, you clearly don't understand the subject of debate. All I implied was that saying something is not right ≠ they care, and vice versa which I've proven. Of course there are scenarios where that is true but you make it seem like it is always true because you told me that I contradicted myself by saying that "Carla knew something wasn't right... Nobody cared enough about Laxus to go looking for him". By the way, you're clearly not understanding the context of "caring". Nobody cared about Acnologia himself. It could have been Zeref, Deliora, or whoever poses such a threat. Rather, they cared about their lives because they were in danger due to Acnologia's presence.

Exactly, Gray was curious of why Laxus made such an excuse and left. That doesn't necessarily mean he was not fooled or fooled. The fact that nobody knew about Laxus' condition doesn't mean they were fooled or not fooled either. They simply didn't know or didn't think there was something there that they should care about.

 

[BluePegasus]

I don't doubt about Grand Chariot > Red Lightning. Grand Chariot has a far higher AoE.

 

[Holt]

I don't doubt about Grand Chariot > Red Lightning. Grand Chariot has a far higher AoE.

There's no indication that GC is stronger than RL. They're probably the same level. Don't forget that RL was strong enough to bypass a lightning immunity in Wahl. GC has a larger AoE but that doesn't equate to it being definitely stronger.

 

[Dranzer]

I feel like Grand Chariot = Red Lightning.

Red Lightning: ​

• Fast deployment
• Has surpassed a lightning immunity (Wahl).

Grand Chariot:​

• Takes a long time to charge.
• But AoE is pretty awesome.

​

 

[Static]

There's no indication that GC is stronger than RL. They're probably the same level. Don't forget that RL was strong enough to bypass a lightning immunity in Wahl. GC has a larger AoE but that doesn't equate to it being definitely stronger.

Thing is, Wahl is not immune to Red Lightning. It was chemically explosive so it blew up Wahl.

 

[Labi]

Uhmmm, his goal was to kill Zeref, Zeref is still alive, therefore he failed......... it's that simple.
As I already explained, Laxus went to fight Wahl so that he could heal himself, who the hell else could have healed Laxus' illness? He literally went to take out Wahl for revenge, why the hell else would you explain him putting up the barrier, it's in the manga, you can think whatever the hell you want but the fact is that Laxus' plan worked to perfection while Natsu failed to kill Zeref.

Give me the panel where laxus says that? Where is it confirmed that getting rid of the particles was laxus's plan? As I said.. No one one ishgar knows how to heal that shit... No granny knew... Demon blood but it wasn't enough for laxus.. So TELLE ME HOW THE HELL SOME MACHO LIKE LAXUS IS SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT HE GETS RID OF HIS PARTICLES BY FIGHINGT WHAL?

 

[Damon blevins]

Give me the panel where laxus says that? Where is it confirmed that getting rid of the particles was laxus's plan? As I said.. No one one ishgar knows how to heal that shit... No granny knew... Demon blood but it wasn't enough for laxus.. So TELLE ME HOW THE HELL SOME MACHO LIKE LAXUS IS SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT HE GETS RID OF HIS PARTICLES BY FIGHINGT WHAL?

Do you read the manga or just skim through what you like?

 

[Selly]

May I add that Laxus is definitely no macho? Because while he might have been one in the past, he definitely isn't one anymore. Like. Not at all. People like to turn him into a flirty macho while actually he hasn't shown any interest in those things anymore at all, and whenever he gets approached with such a topic he either tells them to shut the hell up or, as can be seen in the Raijinshuu episode, he blushes even and gets an awkward adorable potato.

So um... no, Laxus is definitely not a macho. And he IS smart.

 

[Stormsfury]

Give me the panel where laxus says that? Where is it confirmed that getting rid of the particles was laxus's plan? As I said.. No one one ishgar knows how to heal that shit... No granny knew... Demon blood but it wasn't enough for laxus.. So TELLE ME HOW THE HELL SOME MACHO LIKE LAXUS IS SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT HE GETS RID OF HIS PARTICLES BY FIGHINGT WHAL?

They found out Wahl could disperse magical barrier particles when he entered magnolia by dispersing Freed's barrier, Laxux put it together using that information, it doesn't matter how 'macho' he's meant to be and @Damon blevins has provided the panel that shows that Laxus planned it all.

 

[Eisenfaust]

Now my new Power Ranglist for Spriggan.

1.August
2.Eileen(Invel)
3.Invel(Eileen)
4.God Serena
5.Bloodman
6.Ninehart
7.Unknow Spriggan
8.Dimaria
9.Ajeel
10.Wahl
11.Jacob
12.Brandish

 

[Asorx]

Now my new Power Ranglist for Spriggan.

1.August
2.Eileen(Invel)
3.Invel(Eileen)
4.God Serena
5.Bloodman
6.Ninehart
7.Unknow Spriggan
8.Dimaria
9.Ajeel
10.Wahl
11.Jacob
12.Brandish

Why Bradnish last and Ninehart SIX?

 

[BluePegasus]

Mine:

1. August
2. Irene
3. Di Maria
4. Bloodman
5. God Serena
6. Invel
7. Brandish
8. Neinhart
9. Wahl
10. Jacob
11. Ajeel

 

[Stormsfury]

1. August
2. Eileen
3. Invel
4. Unkown Spriggan
5. Bradman
6. God Serena
7. Dimaria
8. Wahl
9. Neinhart
10. Brandish
11. Ajeel
12. Jacob

 

[Labi]

Do you read the manga or just skim through what you like?

Ohh...xD
Sry then I made a mistake there x.x

 

[Crimson Ice]

You're missing the point. Whether Laxus ran off while Fairy Tail was camping has nothing to do with this. The fact that they are used to his absence means they know that Laxus likes to be alone for some unknown reason. Fairy Tail is used to Laxus being away just like Gildarts. That is all I said.

By "care", I'm not talking about "friendship" or "love". You're derailing here. The original topic was about whether Fairy Tail cared to check on Laxus or not. They didn't, which is why they think he can handle whatever comes to him. Nobody would go out of their way to search for someone who says they are hungry unless you're curious like Gray. Again, you clearly don't understand the subject of debate. All I implied was that saying something is not right ≠ they care, and vice versa which I've proven. Of course there are scenarios where that is true but you make it seem like it is always true because you told me that I contradicted myself by saying that "Carla knew something wasn't right... Nobody cared enough about Laxus to go looking for him". By the way, you're clearly not understanding the context of "caring". Nobody cared about Acnologia himself. It could have been Zeref, Deliora, or whoever poses such a threat. Rather, they cared about their lives because they were in danger due to Acnologia's presence.

Exactly, Gray was curious of why Laxus made such an excuse and left. That doesn't necessarily mean he was not fooled or fooled. The fact that nobody knew about Laxus' condition doesn't mean they were fooled or not fooled either. They simply didn't know or didn't think there was something there that they should care about.

That's stupid af, Laxus being absent doesn't mean that at all, that's like saying Natsu and Lucy like to be alone because they leave the guild when they go on missions. Not to mention you brought up Gildarts if the guild was on a mission with Gildarts and he randomly left people would care.



I'm not derailing shit if you cared about someone you would go and check up on them if they randomly left, especially in the situation FT was in then. Now you're contradicting yourself again, you said earlier nobody brought the excuse he was hungry and now you're saying they thought he actually was. What you said makes no sense, THEY WOULD CARE ABOUT ACNOLGOIA BECAUSE HE IS A DANGER TO THEIR LIVES. If they care about the threat they cared about the person, no way around this. Uggh your reaching in this topic is soo horrid.


Gray wasn't fooled, if it was an excuse he brought he would have sat down like the rest of them. While none of them need to know about his condition in order to be fooled. If you reply with some nonsense I won't bother replying back, now I know what @Firepower meant when he said you was really stubborn.

 

[XXEliteXXAceXX]

That's stupid af, Laxus being absent doesn't mean that at all, that's like saying Natsu and Lucy like to be alone because they leave the guild when they go on missions. Not to mention you brought up Gildarts if the guild was on a mission with Gildarts and he randomly left people would care.



I'm not derailing shit if you cared about someone you would go and check up on them if they randomly left, especially in the situation FT was in then. Now you're contradicting yourself again, you said earlier nobody brought the excuse he was hungry and now you're saying they thought he actually was. What you said makes no sense, THEY WOULD CARE ABOUT ACNOLGOIA BECAUSE HE IS A DANGER TO THEIR LIVES. If they care about the threat they cared about the person, no way around this. Uggh your reaching in this topic is soo horrid.


Gray wasn't fooled, if it was an excuse he brought he would have sat down like the rest of them. While none of them need to know about his condition in order to be fooled. If you reply with some nonsense I won't bother replying back, now I know what @Firepower meant when he said you was really stubborn.

No, Team Natsu always returns to the guild after their quests and usually it doesn't take too long. On the contrary, Laxus wanders off by himself frequently. Also, everyone is used to Gildarts being absent. That is already shown. The only one who cares for him is pretty much Cana because she is his daughter and maybe Natsu because they are friends. But as you can see Natsu doesn't think about him everyday and most people in the guild forgot about Gildarts because he was gone for a long time. The only difference here is that Gildarts' reason for leaving is to go on a long journey (quest) while Laxus needs to find food.

If you've been reading my post, you would know that "caring" here doesn't mean "feelings". I'm not saying Laxus is a loner or anything. I was talking more like "bothering". Nobody bothers to check on Laxus because they didn't know of his condition. That doesn't mean they were fooled.

I didn't contradict anything. When did I say that they thought Laxus was hungry? I just said that is what he claimed. Maybe he wasn't in the right mind. My argument here is that, given their facial expressions, they were probably doubtful about Laxus' reason for his disappearance. Because they didn't think Laxus was the sensible type to begin with, it could be the reason why they were suspicious of him saying he was hungry. To them, it sounded more like an excuse which could be due to a variety of reasons.

It isn't about whether Gray was fooled or not which is what I have been saying all along. He was just curious about Laxus.

 

[Brandish μ]

Does intelligence outside of battle really have anything to do to power ranking? Sure 'in-battle intelligence' matters but not something like an excuse to go hide a sickness from people when it's starting to hit.

When it comes to battle intelligence it's about strategy and magic/physicals. This is why I think Erza/Gray aren't really any smarter than Natsu/Laxus. If the former had the latter's abilities they would fight the same as the latter imo.

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They found out Wahl could disperse magical barrier particles when he entered magnolia by dispersing Freed's barrier, Laxux put it together using that information, it doesn't matter how 'macho' he's meant to be and @Damon blevins has provided the panel that shows that Laxus planned it all.

Do you read the manga or just skim through what you like?

I think there is a difference between Laxus knowing Wahl could cure him and Laxus going to Hargeon to be cured.

To me it's obvious that Laxus knows Wahl can bring down barriers, and he assumes Wahl can nullify the MBP's in his body.

I don't think being cured was the motive. Busting Wahl's head in for what he did to the Raijinshuu is priority no.1. I think if Laxus didn't get sick in the fight he would have eventually used Red Lightning and won, taking less damage than he did.

But he did get sick, and I think his back-up plan for sickness was to use Jutsu Shiki and have Wahl cure him.