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Because some here think Seilah is one of the weakest Demon Gates.Um, why are we discussing NDG here?
Because some here think Seilah is one of the weakest Demon Gates.Um, why are we discussing NDG here?
This is the Alvarez PR thread so you are quite right, though I do believe the beginning of the discussion (that lead to 9DG rankings) comes down to Mira v Gajeel ie who is stronger right now... and this lead to discussion of Macro/Sayla, who was better in Tartarus, who is the stronger demon etc.Um, why are we discussing NDG here?
@AsorxIt was hot topic in Japan bcs in an interview he said Mira was stronger but Erza has more determination so she could pull a win. This was talk about in the twitter discussion. https://mangahelpers.com/forum/threads/hiro-mashimas-twitter.2992721/page-18 @Asorx has probably more information on it.
Funny that Gajeel would have if he and Natsu didn't start to fight . Funny thing he pretty much did when he entered Steel mode.Funny that Gajeel couldn't solo Torafusa.
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She can't beat him because she isn't at max she even says this. She was never at full power and it was stated this multiple times.
He got beat the heck up and even Rusty commented on how much he got hurt which was lot and that was from Mira who wasn't even at full power.
Gajeel only won because he got help and Gajeel already started the battle at FULL POWER while Mira started her battle below fifty percent. Azuma >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zoldeo's Subordinates and this isn't even a comparison between battles. Mira while already tired and at a disadvantage gave the second strongest 7 kin a mid diff fight VS. A fully healthy Gajeel who needed help from Levy to beat two lackeys... you're kidding right?
When she literally states she out of magic and couldn't win bcs she was out of magic. (I'm not gonna post panel by panel so I'll just show you the animated fight.)
Hiro stated in an interview that she was stronger than Erza. Also she is easily above both Kagura/Minerva tier as she fought off against a Top 3 9D that made Erza her B while in a death state. Where did you get comparable to Mard in defense? I hope you're not using those Card games as an actual analyse of their strengths. Torafuza was nowhere near Mard in defense they aren't in the same league in anything. Mard literally took a Unision Raid and a Dual element attack and you're really trying to say Torafuza was comparable? LOL. Yes Jackal punked Torafuza so badly that it made him look like Jackal's B
and he didn't handily beat Loke he got stalemated.![]()
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Fixed.
@Erza Mature a little then comeback with an actual argument instead of trying to slander my name. Unlike you I don't need petty insults and arguments to debate.
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Macro worked on Demon Minerva so it does work on demons. It only didn't work on Mira because of her Takeover ability not because she was a demon.
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I wish this site had a dislike button I swear, this ranking.......Nine Demon Gates power ranking:
1). Kyôka (defeated by PoF Erza)
2). Tempesta (defeated by Gajeel with help from Levy)
3). Seilah (defeated by Mirajane)
4). Silver (defeated by Gray)
5). Jackal (defeated by Lucy)
6). Ezel (defeated by DF Wendy)
7). Tempesta (defeated by Gray)
8). Franmalth (defeated by Natsu & Lucy)
9). Keyes (defeated by Juvia)
By Etherious form:
1). Kyôka
2). Seilah
3). Torafuza
4). Ezel
5). Tempesta
6). Jackal
?). Silver, Franmalth & Keyes
Conclusion Tartaros power ranking:
Erza = Mirajane > Gajeel
So you call that a 'fight' as well?Lmao do you actually know the definition of a fight? By your logic, Gajeel lost to Natsu because he gave him a punch before his fight. That's just the funny thing here.Funny that Gajeel would have if he and Natsu didn't start to fight . Funny thing he pretty much did when he entered Steel mode.
Then give me a better one. And don't make me laugh again..I wish this site had a dislike button I swear, this ranking.......
Sorry I'm serching this if i find this i send it to you.@Asorx
Source? It's very easy to make information up, or repeat information that is made up. For me to believe this, there has to be some way to verify the information.
It wasn't a fight, it was a one-sided stomp in Gajeel and Natsu's favour before they start fighting each other.So you call that a 'fight' as well?Lmao do you actually know the definition of a fight? By your logic, Gajeel lost to Natsu because he gave him a punch before his fight. That's just the funny thing here.
Oh, it's also funny that Gajeel would've died if Levy didn't gave him air.
Then give me a better one. And don't make me laugh again..
I see Gajeel and Natsu using spells against Torafuza and Tempesta. So what?It wasn't a fight, it was a one-sided stomp in Gajeel and Natsu's favour before they start fighting each other.
But I'm curious what is this then? I want to see what you call this.
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/395/15
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/395/16
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/395/17
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/395/18
...Is this a joke?You can't be this stupid? Torafusa only got the opportunity because of their squabble.
Lol there is no way Silver is the strongest. He was defeated by Base Gray, while Seilah, Kyôka and Tempesta overpowered their opponents who are equal (Gajeel) or stronger (Erza and Mira) than Base Gray. Kyôka should be first and Torafuza should be second.A better one? Easy.
1.) Silver
2.) Torafusa/Kyouka
3.) Kyouka/Torfusa
4.) Sayla
6.) Franmalth
7.) Tempesta
8.) Erzel
9.) Keyes
U tried.Me make you laugh? I would say the same thing but your posts are just pitful.
It wasn't a fight, it was a one-sided stomp in Gajeel and Natsu's favour before they start fighting each other.
But I'm curious what is this then? I want to see what you call this.
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/395/15
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/395/16
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/395/17
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/395/18
You can't be this stupid, Torafus only got the opportunity because of their squabble.
A better one? Easy.
1.) Silver
2.) Torafusa/Kyouka
3.) Kyouka/Torfusa
4.) Sayla
6.) Franmalth
7.) Tempesta
8.) Erzel
9.) Keyes
Me make you laugh? I would say the same thing but your posts are just pitful.
Stop being so toxic. Torafusa isn't that strong and where Jackal ?It wasn't a fight, it was a one-sided stomp in Gajeel and Natsu's favour before they start fighting each other.
But I'm curious what is this then? I want to see what you call this.
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/395/15
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/395/16
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/395/17
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/395/18
You can't be this stupid? Torafusa only got the opportunity because of their squabble.
A better one? Easy.
1.) Silver
2.) Torafusa/Kyouka
3.) Kyouka/Torfusa
4.) Sayla
6.) Franmalth
7.) Tempesta
8.) Erzel
9.) Keyes
Me make you laugh? I would say the same thing but your posts are just pitful.
Natsu and Gajeel were stomping Tempesta and Trofusa, you seriously are dense.I see Gajeel and Natsu using spells against Torafuza and Tempesta. So what?
...Is this a joke?
Lol there is no way Silver is the strongest. He was defeated by Base Gray, while Seilah, Kyôka and Tempesta overpowered their opponents who are equal (Gajeel) or stronger (Erza and Mira) than Base Gray. Kyôka should be first and Torafuza should be second.
U tried.
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Who are you?Stop being so toxic. Torafusa isn't that strong and where Jackal ?
But later, Torafuza stomped Natsu and Gajeel.Natsu and Gajeel were stomping Tempesta and Trofusa, you seriously are dense.
...No, it isn't.
But in the end, they did fight. Silver went all out because he used his strongest spell.Are you saying that? Like did you not read the fight at all? Silver DIDN'T WANT TO BEAT GRAY AT ALL. He felt bad for even harming, at one point he's literally toying with Gray instead of beating him. Not to mention in the start cards he's by far best.
Sigh.This proves you have zero reading comprehension.
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Do these stats represent their power in base form or transformed?Here are the official stats of the 9DGs + some other members!
1) Attack power
2) Defense
3) Speed
4) Intelligence
5) Curse power
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Based on the stats above, the ranking of the 9DGs + other members should look like this:
1) Mard Geer ( big suprise)
2) Kyoka
3) Silver ( maybe even higher cause of his ds-magic)
4) Torafuzar
5) Tempester
6) Seliah
7) Keyes
8) Ezel
9) Jackal
10) Franmalth ( with Hades-soul probably much higher)
11) Lamy
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Sayla over silver???My list.
1) Kyouka
2) Sayla
3) Silver
4) Tempesta/Jackal
5) Jackal/Tempesta
6) Torafusa
7) Franmalth
8) Ezel
9) Keys
Only because they started fighting among themselves, my goodness. Uf Gajeel never got caught up doing that Torafusa would have never had the chance to do so.But later, Torafuza stomped Natsu and Gajeel.
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But in the end, they did fight. Silver went all out because he used his strongest spell.
Sigh.
Why should she do that? Tartaros is her comradesNo, she can't. Why would she not control the entirety of Tartaros if she could?
This ^Here are the official stats of the 9DGs + some other members!
1) Attack power
2) Defense
3) Speed
4) Intelligence
5) Curse power
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Based on the stats above, the ranking of the 9DGs + other members should look like this:
1) Mard Geer ( big suprise)
2) Kyoka
3) Silver ( maybe even higher cause of his ds-magic)
4) Torafuzar
5) Tempester
6) Seliah
7) Keyes
8) Ezel
9) Jackal
10) Franmalth ( with Hades-soul probably much higher)
11) Lamy
Where did this say it was the official stats? It looks more like a card game then stats.... Also what are those things that look like they had to their stats? Is that an how much they upgrade by when they go Etherious?Here are the official stats of the 9DGs + some other members!
1) Attack power
2) Defense
3) Speed
4) Intelligence
5) Curse power
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Based on the stats above, the ranking of the 9DGs + other members should look like this:
1) Mard Geer ( big suprise)
2) Kyoka
3) Silver ( maybe even higher cause of his ds-magic)
4) Torafuzar
5) Tempester
6) Seliah
7) Keyes
8) Ezel
9) Jackal
10) Franmalth ( with Hades-soul probably much higher)
11) Lamy
But Seilah's special ability is overwhelming, it even rival's Mard's apparently.This ^
Torafusa and Silver >> Seilah.
Conversation done.