Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

Which side are you on?

  • Team Spriggan 12

    Votes: 48 51.6%
  • Team Diabolos/Dragon Eaters

    Votes: 45 48.4%

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THE ALMIGHTY CRYBABY

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That are their stats in their basic forms! The 2 stats in middle are power-ups due to their abilities and not due to their etherious form I think ( couln't rly translate that part :( )
How much they upgrade in points with their etherious form is hard to tell. What we can assume, is that when they activate their transformation, they go probably in the best case 1 tier up or they become the best of the top fighters in their current tier!!! The allocation of the additional points is for each one different and depends on their battle style. For instance Mard Geer's Curse power will grow most with the additional points, while Kyoka will increase her speed or torafuzar will have more hp and a bigger defense and so on. Btw, I doubt that they can become more intelligent after they transformed, so this attribute is kinda irrelevant for extra points.

All things considered, the ranking based on the stats wouldn't change much if we included the etherious forms of each one. Keyes probably descends on the 10th place ( Hiro forgot to show us his transformation xD) ,Seliah goes in the best case 1 or 2 ranks up ( she has maybe one of the biggest power boosts in etherious form cause of her selflimiter) and Silver had Demon Force, so he could have been stronger than Kyoka ( hard to tell as well). The rest stays as it was at the start.
 

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Where did this say it was the official stats? It looks more like a card game then stats.... Also what are those things that look like they had to their stats? Is that an how much they upgrade by when they go Etherious?
Those are given in vol, 46 so they should be consider as "official". Those are base stats, but there are more text, but I don't know Japanese... Can somebody translate cards?
 

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Those are given in vol, 46 so they should be consider as "official". Those are base stats, but there are more text, but I don't know Japanese... Can somebody translate cards?
Someone translated some of the above parts and it says the 4000 on Sayla's card is an addition to Sayla's stats when in Limitless and Kyouka gets 2500 boost in stats when she uses Strengthen. I'm gonna go to the Library tomorrow so I'll go check out the Vol. 46 translated version to see if that's correct.
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But Seilah's special ability is overwhelming, it even rival's Mard's apparently.
It was translated to be her Limit Release form which gives her a 4000 boost in all her stats. Silver gets a 2000 boost when he puts his feelings into it and Kyouka gets a 2500 boost when she use her Strengthen. Franmelth was also translated to get a 2000 boost when he uses his Revolution. Those 4 were the only ones that had boost in the source's translation of them.

So there boosted stats are

Franmelth:
Atk: 2600
Def: 2600
Spd: 2500
Curse: 3000

Silver:
Atk: 5200
Def: 4800
Spd: 4000
Curse: 4600

Seilah:
Atk: 5200
Def: 5000
Spd: 4800
Curse: 6000

Kyouka:
Atk: 5200
Def: 5000
Spd: 5500
Curse: 5200
 
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Guys stop discussing Tartaros now :P.

To get back to the topic, here are my rankings of the Spriggan 12 although I haven't added the Spriggans who only have hype going for them.

1) August - The Magic King and supposedly the strongest of the Spriggans.

2) Irene Bulserion - The only Spriggan who can stand up to August.

3) God Serena - Has the versatility of eight dragon slayer elements on his side and he also has the feat of completely destroying the GoI + Jura with an unknown magic, which is not his primary magic.

4) TIED Jacob Lessio / Wahl Icht - Jacob has two hax magic in his arsenal - Transport and Stealth. Transport has a good range and can teleport anyone to another dimension with just a clap whereas in Stealth mode, he cannot be detected by his opponents whatsoever and is free to do as he wants. Wahl has his Alchemy, which provides versatility and great firepower and Weakness can find the weakness(ess) of any opponent (duh). Not to mention, he has an Etherion cannon built into his body which, although takes quite some time to load, can be deadly overwhelming in a long battle.

5) TIED Dimaria Yesta / Brandish - Now don't get me wrong, Dimaria has Time Stop which is unlike any other magic we have seen. Its really OP in the right hands. In the right hands only. Dimaria has decent firepower and one of her strong attacks was blocked by an injured Wendy's barrier thus she is this low. Brandish on the other hand can shrink / enlarge anything or anyone she wants. However, both got to have some kinds of restriction on their hax magic or else they are simply too powerful lol.

6) Ajeel Lamur - His sand magic isn't too impressive but while in Sand World, he can basically control the environment and the opponent's body plus his own. He has also shown good durability feats like Wahl and God Serena.

7) Neinhart - A pitiful antagonist with a pitiful ability ._. Historia can be easily countered if you have a strong will (which most good characters in this series too) or you are at good condition. He also has very terrible durability.

Well, that's it. Based on hype, Bradman and Invel should be above a few of these characters. Can't speak for Lacreid (or whatever his name was lol) though.
 

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Can some please translate Mard Geer's and other 9DG Etherious stats by Hiro not thei base stas.Then we can assume how strong Mirajane is?
 

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Guys stop discussing Tartaros now :P.

To get back to the topic, here are my rankings of the Spriggan 12 although I haven't added the Spriggans who only have hype going for them.

1) August - The Magic King and supposedly the strongest of the Spriggans.

2) Irene Bulserion - The only Spriggan who can stand up to August.

3) God Serena - Has the versatility of eight dragon slayer elements on his side and he also has the feat of completely destroying the GoI + Jura with an unknown magic, which is not his primary magic.

4) TIED Jacob Lessio / Wahl Icht - Jacob has two hax magic in his arsenal - Transport and Stealth. Transport has a good range and can teleport anyone to another dimension with just a clap whereas in Stealth mode, he cannot be detected by his opponents whatsoever and is free to do as he wants. Wahl has his Alchemy, which provides versatility and great firepower and Weakness can find the weakness(ess) of any opponent (duh). Not to mention, he has an Etherion cannon built into his body which, although takes quite some time to load, can be deadly overwhelming in a long battle.

5) TIED Dimaria Yesta / Brandish - Now don't get me wrong, Dimaria has Time Stop which is unlike any other magic we have seen. Its really OP in the right hands. In the right hands only. Dimaria has decent firepower and one of her strong attacks was blocked by an injured Wendy's barrier thus she is this low. Brandish on the other hand can shrink / enlarge anything or anyone she wants. However, both got to have some kinds of restriction on their hax magic or else they are simply too powerful lol.

6) Ajeel Lamur - His sand magic isn't too impressive but while in Sand World, he can basically control the environment and the opponent's body plus his own. He has also shown good durability feats like Wahl and God Serena.

7) Neinhart - A pitiful antagonist with a pitiful ability ._. Historia can be easily countered if you have a strong will (which most good characters in this series too) or you are at good condition. He also has very terrible durability.

Well, that's it. Based on hype, Bradman and Invel should be above a few of these characters. Can't speak for Lacreid (or whatever his name was lol) though.
I kind agree and disagree at the same time with you ;) .
Imo, the ranking of spriggan 12 looks like this (, based on magic power, Hp, attack, defense, speed, durabilty and intelligence):
1) August ( damn obvious by his hpe)
2) Eileen/ Irene ( the same as august)
3) Invel* ( maybe and only hype but he is the right hand of zeref so he should be damn powerful / we will definetely know when he finally fights)
4) God Serena ( 8 Ds-elements, very good firepower and fast, destroyed Goi+Jura without much effort and was strong enough to attract Acnologia)
5) Bradman/ Rahkeid* (only hype / Bradman was the one who defeated Sabertooth and Blue Pegasus in their first encouter as it seems)
6) Rahkeid/ Bradman* ( only hype / btw * = means that I'll probably change my mind if I see them fight someone in the manga depending on their performance)
7) Wahl Lcht ( Weakness Magic, good firepower, acceptable defense and his own kind of Etherion-canon)
8) Di Maria ( Godsoul-takeover rly cool, decent firepower, good defense but she can defeat anyone who is unprepared for her hax time-stop magic)
9) Ajeel ( sand magic, sand world rly good spell, good fire power and he has good durability and defense)
10) Jacob ( good in close combat, invisible weapons, invisable magic and low intelligence / but with his hax magic he can also defeat anyone who is unprepared for it)
11) Brandish* ( She didn' t show much. Was oneshotted by Cana while she was distracted by her own pollen-allergy. The only thing we know about her battle skills are that she has huge magic power, she is kinda lazy and she can change the size of anything! / If she has a decent fight I am sure I'll change my mind about her. I hope she doesn't disappoint like Ninehart or Jacob)
12) Ninehart ( Historia magic, big magic power and some kind of energy blasts but his durability, defense and Hp are a joke for a spriggan, also his historia can be overcome quite easily)
 

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My Spriggan 12 rankings:

1.August (portrayal)
2. Eilleen (portrayal)
3. Dimaria (her timestop only has one counter in-verse, and she can realistically damage all the Spriggan below her in this ranking)
4. God Serena
5. Wahl
6. Brandish (hype for having the island lifting feat, also Cana defeating her was an obvious gag moment)
7. Ajeel
8. Jacob (iffy between him and Neinhart)
9. Neinhart
 

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I'll post my ranking:

Spriggans
Top tiers (Likely unbeatable by anyone from Ishgar, one on one)
1. August (portrayal, apparently as powerful and wise or more than Zeref)
2. Irene (portrayal, apparently on August's league)
High tiers (Likely stronger than any wizard from Ishgar, one on one)
3. Dimaria (as already mentioned, “her timestop only has one counter in-verse, and she can realistically damage all the Spriggan below her in this ranking”)
4. God Serena (Excels in many different kinds of DS magic. Probably at Natsu's level, but in a wider range/variety of magics. He can probably eat any of said elements as well, and power up)
5. Brandish (as aforementioned, “hype for having the island lifting feat, also Cana defeating her was an obvious gag moment”. Her ability could realistically be almost as dangerous as Dimaria’s)
Mid tiers (Equals to Ishgar high to top tiers)
6. Bradman (Apparently intangible and rather deadly. Gajeel seems to be one of the few or the only counter, and is struggling)
7. Wahl (He seems to be able to shoot some "mini" version of etherion, so that's saying a lot)
Low tiers (Equals to Ishgar high tiers)
8. Ajeel (Defeated Erza handily, would've killed her hadn't Bisca intervened)
9. Jacob (Quite skilled and space-magic user, but was rather handily countered by Lucy's mind + Makarov+Natsu combo. Not that impressive)
10. Nienhart (Interesting ability, but rather weak nonetheless)
Unknown
Invel
Rankeid
Heine/Juliet (probably on Ishgar low-to-mid-tier level)

Ishgar
Top tiers (Could likely fight equally against mid-tier spriggans, probably not against highs 1vs1)
1. IDKM Natsu
2. Glidartz (MIA, but should be like this)
3. Hyberion / Grown-up Chelia
High tiers (Could put up a fight and even beat low-to-mid-tier spriggans, 1vs1)
3. Jellal
4. Laxus
5. Wolfheim
6. Warrod
Mid-to-high tiers, Wizard Saint level (Could probably put up a fight to low-tier spriggans, probably not beat them)
7. Makarov
8. Jura
9. Erza
10. Kagura
11. DS Gray
12. Mirajane / Minerva / Midnight
13. Base Natsu / Orga
Mid tiers (Could individually hold their own against spriggans for seconds or even minutes, not beat them)
14. Gajeel / Cobra
15. Rogue / Hoteye
16. Sting
17. Lyon / Gray / Racer
18. DF Wendy / Juvia
19. Freed / Meredy / Angel
20. Phanter Lily
Low tiers (Not much they can do against spriggans, unless they team up, and even then…)
21. Elfman
22. Lucy / Base Chelia
23. Bickslow / Evergreen / Yukino
24. Blue Pegasus (every single member should be around this level)
25. Cana
26. Macao / Wakaba
27. Max
28. Base Wendy
Fodders
29. Mest
30. Levy / Lisanna
31. Alzack / Bisca
32. Carla / Laki
33. Nab, Warren, Jet, Droy, Romeo, Vijeeter, etc.
 
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I'll post my ranking:

Spriggans
Top tiers (Likely unbeatable by someone from Ishgar, one on one)
1. August (portrayal)
2. Irene (portrayal)
High tiers (Likely stronger than any wizard from Ishgar, one on one)
3. Dimaria (as already mentioned, “her timestop only has one counter in-verse, and she can realistically damage all the Spriggan below her in this ranking”)
4. God Serena
5. Brandish (as aforementioned, “hype for having the island lifting feat, also Cana defeating her was an obvious gag moment”. Her ability could realistically be almost as dangerous as Dimaria’s)
Mid tiers (Equals to Ishgar top tiers)
6. Wahl
7. Bradman
Low tiers (Equals to Ishgar high to top tiers)
8. Ajeel
9. Jacob
10. Nienhart
Unknown
Invel
Rankeid

Ishgar
Top tiers (Could likely fight equally against mid-tier spriggans, probably not against highs 1vs1)
1. Natsu
2. Glidartz (MIA, but should be like this)
3. Hyberion
High tiers (Could put up a fight and even beat low-tier spriggans, 1vs1)
3. Jellal
4. Laxus
5. Wolfheim
6. Warrod
7. Makarov
8. Jura
9. Erza
10. Kagura
Mid tiers (Could probably put up a fight to low-tier spriggans, probably not beat them)
11. Gray
12. Mirajane / Minerva
13. Orga
14. Gajeel
15. Rogue
16. Sting
17. Lyion
18. Wendy / Juvia
19. Freed
20. Phanter Lily
Low tiers (Not much they can do against spriggans, unless they team up, and even then…)
21. Elfman
22. Lucy
23. Bickslow / Evergreen
24. Blue Pegasus (every single member should be around this level)
25. Cana
26. Macao / Wakaba
27. Max
Fodders
28. Mest
29. Levy / Lisanna
30. Alzack / Bisca
31. Carla / Laki
32. Nab, Warren, Jet, Droy, Romeo, Vijeeter, etc.
You have Laxus at 4 saying he can only beat low tier Spirggans and then you have Wahl as a mid-tier Spirggan when Laxus beat Wahl.....That makes no sense.
 

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I'll post my ranking:

Spriggans
Top tiers (Likely unbeatable by someone from Ishgar, one on one)
1. August (portrayal)
2. Irene (portrayal)
High tiers (Likely stronger than any wizard from Ishgar, one on one)
3. Dimaria (as already mentioned, “her timestop only has one counter in-verse, and she can realistically damage all the Spriggan below her in this ranking”)
4. God Serena
5. Brandish (as aforementioned, “hype for having the island lifting feat, also Cana defeating her was an obvious gag moment”. Her ability could realistically be almost as dangerous as Dimaria’s)
Mid tiers (Equals to Ishgar top tiers)
6. Wahl
7. Bradman
Low tiers (Equals to Ishgar high to top tiers)
8. Ajeel
9. Jacob
10. Nienhart
Unknown
Invel
Rankeid

Ishgar
Top tiers (Could likely fight equally against mid-tier spriggans, probably not against highs 1vs1)
1. Natsu
2. Glidartz (MIA, but should be like this)
3. Hyberion
High tiers (Could put up a fight and even beat low-tier spriggans, 1vs1)
3. Jellal
4. Laxus
5. Wolfheim
6. Warrod
7. Makarov
8. Jura
9. Erza
10. Kagura
Mid tiers (Could probably put up a fight to low-tier spriggans, probably not beat them)
11. Gray
12. Mirajane / Minerva
13. Orga
14. Gajeel
15. Rogue
16. Sting
17. Lyion
18. Wendy / Juvia
19. Freed
20. Phanter Lily
Low tiers (Not much they can do against spriggans, unless they team up, and even then…)
21. Elfman
22. Lucy
23. Bickslow / Evergreen
24. Blue Pegasus (every single member should be around this level)
25. Cana
26. Macao / Wakaba
27. Max
Fodders
28. Mest
29. Levy / Lisanna
30. Alzack / Bisca
31. Carla / Laki
32. Nab, Warren, Jet, Droy, Romeo, Vijeeter, etc.
Pretty agreeable list tbh.

One thing though, you should make sure to make a distinction between IDKM Natsu and Base Natsu.

IDKM Natsu should be at the top while Base Natsu should be under Laxus.
 

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You have Laxus at 4 saying he can only beat low tier Spirggans and then you have Wahl as a mid-tier Spirggan when Laxus beat Wahl.....That makes no sense.
You were entirely right, I changed a few things, now it should make more sense.

Pretty agreeable list tbh.

One thing though, you should make sure to make a distinction between IDKM Natsu and Base Natsu.

IDKM Natsu should be at the top while Base Natsu should be under Laxus.
Yup, I made a few changes :)
 

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Tier 1

Acnologia
Igneel
Other Dragon Kings

Tier 2

Zeref Dragneel
Natsu Dragneel (W/Igneels power)

Tier 3

August
Irene Belserion
Metalicana
Grandeeney
Weisslogia
Skiadrum

Tier 4

Natsu Dragneel (Current)
Laxus Dreyar (Current)
Jellal Fernandes (Current)
Atlas Flame
Motherglare

Tier 5

Wahl Icht
Brandish Mū
Dimaria Yesta
Ajeel Lumur
God Serena
Scissor Runner
Levia
Dark Dragon
Rock Dragon
Other Regular Dragons

Tier 6

Jacob Lessio
Neinhart
Erza Scarlett (Current)
Zirconis
Other Troll/Weak Dragons

Tier 7

Mard Geer
Celestial Spirit King (Operating on Lucy's MP)
Precht Gaebolg (w/Heart)
Sherria Blendy (Prime)
Hyberion

Tier 8

Gildarts Clive (Tenrou Arc)
Precht Gaebolg
Wolfheim
Warrod Sequen
Makarov Dreyar
Jura Neekis (Current)

Tier 9

Jellal Fernandes (Tartarus)
Laxus Dreyar (GMG)
Jura Neekis (GMG)
Bluenote
Ur Milkovich
Zero

Tier 10

Jose Porla
Kyouka
Sayla
Erza Scarlett (Tartarus)
Silver Fullbuster
Torafusa
Jiemma Orlando (Demon)
Ultear Milkovich (GMG)

Tier 11

Natsu Dragneel (Tartarus)
Gajeel Redfox (Tartarus)
Gray Fullbuster (Tartarus)
Tempesta
Franmalth (W/Hades Soul)
Kagura Mikazuchi (GMG)
Minerva Orlando (Tartarus)
Azuma (Fused with Tenrou)

Tier 12

Midnight (Tartarus)
Sting Eucliff (Tartarus)
Rogue Cheney (Tartarus)
Mirajane Strauss (Tartarus)
Jackal
Ezel
Meredy (Current)
Juvia Lockster (Current)
Ichiya Vandalay Kotobuki (Current)
Freed Justine (Current)
Ikaruga
Azuma

Tier 13

Keith
Zancrow
Cobra/Erik (Tartarus)
Bacchus Groh
Elfman Strauss (GMG)
Orga Nanagear (GMG)
Rufus Lore (GMG)
Lyon Vastia (GMG)
Racer (Tartarus)

Tier 14

Hoteye (Tartarus)
Juvia Lockster (Tartarus)
Meredy (GMG)
Lucy Heartfillia (Tartarus)
Rustyrose
Freed Justine (Tenrou Arc)

Tier Other

Everyone below

I left out any variations of characters who have or had ambiguous power levels due to lack of feats, also only two variations of a given character per character. The gaps can be pretty big between tiers and the characters within the tiers are in no specific order.
 

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It may be rather ambitious to make a list that big after a timeskip in which most of the mentioned magues' current powers haven't been shown or described. However I think your list is pretty accurate. I wouldn't put any human mague on dragons' list but I see why you did that. However I don't think August is above dragons such as those in Tier 5 unless I'm proven wrong.

The gap between humans and dragons is simply too big. If any mague had a chance against any, it would probably be those who are DS magic users and excel at it (for example, DF/IDKM Natsu, God Serena or August). But no spriggan who does not use DS magic should be capable of even scratching a dragon (Jellal, Wahl, etc. should all be below dragons).

That is of course my opinion. It hasn't been proven whether non DS magic can harm a dragon, but Jura or Kagura didn't even scratch them back in the magic games, and they were arguably powerful mages. They should've at least harmed them even if a bit. The fact they didn't led me to think non DS magic users can't harm dragons at all.

Also, that Hyberion and the other saints were fodderized by Serena does by no means imply they're "weak". We didn't see how Laxus or Natsu did against Serena but I don't think they'd have done much better. I'd like to think Hyberion is well above Mard Geer. I'd also like to think Glidartz is above Mard Geer.
 

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However I don't think August is above dragons such as those in Tier 5 unless I'm proven wrong.
Acnologia was slaughtering dragons by the dozen as a mage (not even taking into account his dragon force/dragon mode) and Zeref/August are considered the strongest mages of all time. That includes all the dragon slayers who slayed dragons. Furthermore, Irene (Augusts equal) is seemingly about to do something to Acnologia in his dragon form. That's certainly not something regular dragons are capable of.

The gap between humans and dragons is simply too big. If any mague had a chance against any, it would probably be those who are DS magic users and excel at it (for example, DF/IDKM Natsu, God Serena or August). But no spriggan who does not use DS magic should be capable of even scratching a dragon (Jellal, Wahl, etc. should all be below dragons).
Dragons lack impressive quantifiable feats, I am actually giving a lot of them the benefit of the doubt.

That is of course my opinion. It hasn't been proven whether non DS magic can harm a dragon, but Jura or Kagura didn't even scratch them back in the magic games, and they were arguably powerful mages. They should've at least harmed them even if a bit. The fact they didn't led me to think non DS magic users can't harm dragons at all.
Wolfheim is much stronger then GMG Jura and GMG Kagura and he couldn't scratch Serena.

Also, that Hyberion and the other saints were fodderized by Serena does by no means imply they're "weak". We didn't see how Laxus or Natsu did against Serena but I don't think they'd have done much better. I'd like to think Hyberion is well above Mard Geer. I'd also like to think Glidartz is above Mard Geer.
Yes they would. The Saints lack both portrayel and feats to even be considered Spriggan level. Natsu and Laxus are above Serena himself based on feats. Laxus has defeated a Spriggan while handicapped and then proceeded to defeat a Wizard Saint level character literally right after despite his terrible condition. Natsu defeated a Spriggan rather easily, even if it was one if the weaker ones.
 

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Acnologia was slaughtering dragons by the dozen as a mage (not even taking into account his dragon force/dragon mode) and Zeref/August are considered the
strongest mages of all time. That includes all the dragon slayers who slayed dragons. Furthermore, Irene (Augusts equal) is seemingly about to do something to Acnologia in his dragon form. That's certainly not something regular dragons are capable of.



Dragons lack impressive quantifiable feats, I am actually giving a lot of them the benefit of the doubt.



Wolfheim is much stronger then GMG Jura and GMG Kagura and he couldn't scratch Serena.



Yes they would. The Saints lack both portrayel and feats to even be considered Spriggan level. Natsu and Laxus are above Serena himself based on feats. Laxus has defeated a Spriggan while handicapped and then proceeded to defeat a Wizard Saint level character literally right after despite his terrible condition. Natsu defeated a Spriggan rather easily, even if it was one if the weaker ones.
We don't know if Irene will truly be able to do something to Acnologia.
 

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Acnologia was slaughtering dragons by the dozen as a mage (not even taking into account his dragon force/dragon mode) and Zeref/August are considered the strongest mages of all time. That includes all the dragon slayers who slayed dragons. Furthermore, Irene (Augusts equal) is seemingly about to do something to Acnologia in his dragon form. That's certainly not something regular dragons are capable of.



Dragons lack impressive quantifiable feats, I am actually giving a lot of them the benefit of the doubt.



Wolfheim is much stronger then GMG Jura and GMG Kagura and he couldn't scratch Serena.



Yes they would. The Saints lack both portrayel and feats to even be considered Spriggan level. Natsu and Laxus are above Serena himself based on feats. Laxus has defeated a Spriggan while handicapped and then proceeded to defeat a Wizard Saint level character literally right after despite his terrible condition. Natsu defeated a Spriggan rather easily, even if it was one if the weaker ones.
August and Irene are only considered the most powerful mages of the current time, not necessarily of all time. We don't know what the mages were like 400 years ago. That said, I think your list is pretty solid. I believe that you need to be a pretty much a Spriggan level dragon slayer to slay a dragon, so I don't really have a problem with putting August and Irene above some dragons.
 

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It's hard to equate dragons and humans because of the physiology alone. Right off the bat dragons have physicality that is out of reach.

It's different if you equate their power magically. While a dragon would likely have more MP, an extraordinarily powerful mage might be able to produce a feat that rivals something a dragon can do.

One way to look at it is IgNatsu is essentially how strong Igneel might be in human form (I say might because we don't know how much power there was, and it's not an easy correlation to make). That amount of power can overwhelm Zeref, to the point that Zeref's magic is burned up. Physically though, IgNatsu is nothing like Igneel. Zeref was able to inflict a nasty wound to his face. Human Acnologia would be above IgNatsu, but not by a great deal. Igneel and Acnologia (dragon/DF) are obviously much stronger than that again.
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My Spriggan 12 rankings:

1.August (portrayal)
2. Eilleen (portrayal)
3. Dimaria (her timestop only has one counter in-verse, and she can realistically damage all the Spriggan below her in this ranking)
4. God Serena
5. Wahl
6. Brandish (hype for having the island lifting feat, also Cana defeating her was an obvious gag moment)
7. Ajeel
8. Jacob (iffy between him and Neinhart)
9. Neinhart
I think If I had to rate them in order so far I would do it exactly like this. But generally I lump ranks 3-9 together, because I think the overall ability is about the same.
 

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Yes they would. The Saints lack both portrayel and feats to even be considered Spriggan level. Natsu and Laxus are above Serena himself based on feats. Laxus has defeated a Spriggan while handicapped and then proceeded to defeat a Wizard Saint level character literally right after despite his terrible condition. Natsu defeated a Spriggan rather easily, even if it was one if the weaker ones.
Laxus' reaction speed is top notch indeed (hypersonic, capable of dodging bullets) and he certainly was capable of dealing with Wahl, with some difficults due to him being handicapped. He was able to overcome his "disease" though, and that's where he won. He didn't win the fight by a large margin so I'd like to think Laxus is low-to-mid-tier Spriggan at most.
Indeed, Hades is powerful. Without his heart (as Laxus fought him) he's even stronger than Makarov. Wizard Saint level no doubt. But he was just a projection and we don't know (or do we? :S maybe we do) if these projections hold 100% of the powress villains had when last fought. For example, Hades' resistance feats were impressive back in Tenroujima, to the extent he was beaten with very high difficulty by a combination of a team in which Laxus and Natsu (not to mention Erza) were protagonists; I consider him stronger than Neinhart so I think Neinhart's magic has limitations (i.e. cannot project anyone stronger than him, or project him with limitations).

However, God Serena is a DS who seemingly excels at many kinds of DS magic, including, most likely, fire and lightning DS magic. It is possible that Natsu and Laxus' magic is on the same level of Serena's, but Serena is more versatile. Besides, he can probably eat their elements. I think Base Natsu / Laxus couldn't beat God Serena one on one. DFKM Natsu, or if they team up, that'd probably be another story. Still, I consider Hyberion above Laxus. We should see how well Hyberion does against Wahl, or how nicely Laxus fights Serena before making a conclusion.

As for saying that "Natsu defeated a Spriggan rather easily", well, he made use of all his strenght in order to beat him, and it involved the combined efforts of Lucy's intellect (in order to scatter space magic, against which Natsu has no counter) and Makarov (in order to fly at a speed he couldn't have reached on his own). Ah, also Happy in preventing him from using his space magic again. Otherwise I don't think Natsu could've beaten him, and if anything, using DFKM mode for sure. And DFKM Natsu is indeed an extremely powerful character; maybe the strongest mague from Ishgar.
 

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1. August
-Hyped to be The King of All Magic. I am assuming he knows all the magic the other Spriggans know thus ranking him at number 1 even above Irene.

2. Irene
-Hyped to be just as strong as August.

3. Nienheart
-The fact he was able to bring people Historia to life and they were actually pretty powerful ranks him here. Can take on a lot of people at once.

4. Dimira
-Her time magic is hax but someone like Nienheart could beat her with his Histoire power by simply bringing the people back who already has beaten her.

5. Brandish
-So far she is the only spriggan shown to be Island level.

6-10 are pretty much around the same level.

6. Azir
-So far the only Spriggan shown to be city level.

7. Whal
-Has some nice attack power but he isn't city or island level. So everyone above him deserves to be above him. Like Nienheart could summon Laxus to defeat Whal again. Brandish can shrink him lessoning the affects of his power greatly. Azir could pretty much block/Scatter all his nukes. All throught the difference between him and Azir isn't that big,

8. Jacob
-He could pretty much get rid of the Spriggan with a clap of his hands. While in his Transparent form he is untracable.

9. Bradman
-Magical barrier particles would basically kill alot of mages. As long as you don't breathe in the particles you are pretty much fine.

10.Serena
-While he is placed low he isn't really the weakest just that the ones above him are simply better and if it came down to it could beat him in a fight.
 

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1. August
-Hyped to be The King of All Magic. I am assuming he knows all the magic the other Spriggans know thus ranking him at number 1 even above Irene.

2. Irene
-Hyped to be just as strong as August.

3. Nienheart
-The fact he was able to bring people Historia to life and they were actually pretty powerful ranks him here. Can take on a lot of people at once.

4. Dimira
-Her time magic is hax but someone like Nienheart could beat her with his Histoire power by simply bringing the people back who already has beaten her.

5. Brandish
-So far she is the only spriggan shown to be Island level.

6-10 are pretty much around the same level.

6. Azir
-So far the only Spriggan shown to be city level.

7. Whal
-Has some nice attack power but he isn't city or island level. So everyone above him deserves to be above him. Like Nienheart could summon Laxus to defeat Whal again. Brandish can shrink him lessoning the affects of his power greatly. Azir could pretty much block/Scatter all his nukes. All throught the difference between him and Azir isn't that big,

8. Jacob
-He could pretty much get rid of the Spriggan with a clap of his hands. While in his Transparent form he is untracable.

9. Bradman
-Magical barrier particles would basically kill alot of mages. As long as you don't breathe in the particles you are pretty much fine.

10.Serena
-While he is placed low he isn't really the weakest just that the ones above him are simply better and if it came down to it could beat him in a fight.
Neinhart is wayyy too high. His magic can be taken care of easily.
 
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