Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[XXGenesis]

The GMG is where the author got rid of any sort of sense-able Power ranking system...It's simply this person is stronger than this person, a very A B C logic....The Tartaros Arc still doesn't help because they didn't fight Wizards but Demons....& Now they are fighting 12 Super duper strong wizards & an army...

FT power levels really don't matter to me...Erza has received to many Plot wanks; Laxus Is going down the same route with unentertaining fights...& Gildarts is too strong to have around for the plot...Smt

 

[XXEliteXXAceXX]

Probably. I'm only speculating atm, but I really wouldn't be surprised if DF Natsu can dominate Spriggans level opponents.

Honestly I think Natsu needed to Igneel's power because it was MP just sealed there. It acted up twice (Brandish and Ajeel) just to their MP. Him racing after Zeref might just be Natsu's way of doing things, but I sometimes think he needed to use Igneel's power ASAP. It was a one time thing. And with the ethernano cancer, it seems having power like Igneel's MP in Natsu was the cause (among other power ups). My main point is having that MP in Natsu is not good for him, and it wanted to get out of him.

If God Serena is a high tier Spriggan, then so is current Natsu without DF. His FDKM is superior to what God Serena produced. God Serena's spells that he used against the Wizard Saints are probably comparable to Natsu's base attacks, at best.

IgNatsu has a relatively small amount of Igneel's MP, but I do think in the short time he used it in he might resemble what Igneel would be like as a human. Natsu probably won't achieve the same level of flames again. His current FDKM flames aren't as strong, but they're not too far off. Where DF Natsu will top IgNatsu is dragon-like physicals. DF Natsu should have better speed/strength than IgNatsu, and certainly better durability. If DF Natsu fought God Serena, I expect he'd be able to tear a hole in him just like Acnologia did.

I guess we'll see Natsu in DF soon enough to judge.

I can see your point that Natsu may have rushed to use Igneel's MP because of the magic energy welling up inside him. However, I find it so convenient that it only became unbearable when he confronted Zeref. I mean it reacted when he felt Ajeel's power but then stopped for a period of time until he fought Zeref. Even throughout the Avatar Arc, he didn't feel the urge to use it especially against Ikusa-Tsunagi. My theory is that he just uses it whenever he feels the need to which would explain why he grabbed his arm when he sensed Ajeel's and Zeref's MP.

I'm not too sure if FDKM Natsu would be superior to God Serena. I guess that would just be left up to interpretation and opinion.

I agree. I don't think Igneel-powered is anywhere close to Igneel's true power. In fact, there should be quite a gap considering that only a part of Igneel's power was transferred. At the same time though, just a little bit of a dragon's power can put you on a whole different level as seen with Natsu and Atlas Flame. It is also worth noting that Atlas Flame is many times weaker than Igneel. Honestly, in terms of physical characteristics, I don't think it would help DF Natsu much especially since Igneel-powered Natsu has such high attack potency.

I disagree that DF Natsu can blitz God Serena though. But I guess we'll leave that to the Fairy Tail Tournament to debate.

 

[Axiomus]

Dragon Force should be a superior form than FDK mode, but Igneel's magical power should be greater than Natsu's magical power. My personal theory is that the human body simply isn't designed to handle such an enormous amount of power like Igneel's. In order to safely use that level of magical power, you need a dragon's body. That's where Dragon Force comes in. That's why Natsu developed the anti-ethernano tumor. Since Natsu didn't enter Dragon Force when he used Igneel's mp, his body wasn't able to handle the stress of its power and started to break down.

 

[The President]

Ajeel has an AoE advantage, but his attacks are quite easy to overpower. Ajeel's sands of death was scattered by one of Laxus' lightning bolts. Any of Serena's dragon slaying attacks should be on the same level as Laxus' bolt. Ajeel's lion's pit was burned by Natsu's fire, and Serena has the ability to do the same thing. Serena's purgatory ds would also allow him to hit Ajeel, as Natsu was able to hit Ajeel with it. With the exception of Sand World, Erza was able to use Wind Gods armor to scatter Ajeel's sands. God Serena can easily use gale dragon slaying attacks to achieve the same thing. The only major advantage Ajeel has is sands world, but even then god Serena can just conjure up a storm within sand world to clear a line of sight in his immediate area.

No, Serenas casual attacks aren't on the same level as Laxuses lightning bolt used on the Sand Tsunami. Not even close. Maybe his full power attacks (secret arts, roars etc...) are but the ones used on the saints couldn't even take them out despite already being battle worn. Clearing the vicinity for a few second wouldn't help Serena much.

who had the highest magical power out of anyone in Sabertooth.

Wrong, he had the highest attack power. He hit the hardest. As far as overall combat ability was concerned Minerva was at the very top.

God Serena's total stomp-down of 4 Jura+ level opponents proves either that his durability is insane, or that he was so in control of the situation that the Ishgar Saints never managed to get a hit in.

Are you talking about base or DS Serena? Because base Serena did not stomp anyone.

Either way, the end result was that God Serena did better against the Ishgar Saints than Ajeel did against Erza.

Not true. Once Ajeel used Sand World he destroyed Erza much like when Serena destroyed the Saints when he used his DS magic. However prior to that both weren't doing that great against their opponents, unlike Serena though Ajeel had a very restricted move-set against Erza, and Erza is stronger then any of the Saints individually.

He also did better than Erza in terms of fighting multiple opponents, as shown by Erza's performance in fighting her Historia. I am willing to say that Ajeel can probably beat the Ishgar Saints, but I'm not willing to say that he would stomp them in the same way God Serena did.

Erza was still heavily battle worn, according to Ikaruga and Azuma she wasnt even fighting at the same level that she fought them previously at. Which means she was fighting at her Tenrou level at most, which actually means she did quite well given that she fought 3 opponents at that level.

As far as Natsu is concerned, a DF Natsu should be able to stomp Spriggans of Serena/Ajeel caliber. I think that a DF Natsu would be as strong or possibly even stronger then he was with some of Igneels power. As he is now (Base/FDK attacks) he could probably dispose of Serena with no more then Mid-Diff IMO. August/Irene are another story. Those two are probably stronger then human Acnologia (I anticipate Irene will push Acno into his dragon form, August is >= Irene).

 

[GokuSSJG]

doubtful. August didn't dare to attack Acnologia even is his human form. Acnologia is the strongest being even in his human form.

 

[THE ALMIGHTY CRYBABY]

To me, the ranking of Natsu's modes look like this:
Igneel Natsu < DF Natsu* < FDKM < LFDM < Base Natsu
* However, DF Natsu has the potential to surpass Igneel Natsu depending on the process of how much he turns into a dragon!!!

Acnologia is the strongest character so far even in his human form. He never trully fought someone seriously until now. Irene prepared a spell in previous chapters which is probably op and unfair and that is the reason why she is so confident. That spell will trouble him but not defeat him.
Acno ( human form) < August < Irene

DF Gajeel destroyed Bradman with only physical attacks and without the need of using dragon roar or dragon secret slayer art spells. So DF Natsu should be able to handle August and to give him a tough fight but this doesn't mean immediately Natsu would be victorious.
Serena vs DF Natsu, I guess, Natsu wins with low or mid difficulty. But FDKM Natsu vs Serena, high difficulty win for one of them ( I still cannot decide). Base Natsu vs Serena, here I guess, Serena would definetely win.

Ranking Serena is a hard thing because we have never seen the full extend of his power but the GoI and Jura were no match for him. So I assume that he is one of the stongest Spriggan but not on the same level as August and Irene!

Btw you shouldn't be focused too much on destructive spells while ranking the characters because then Natsu would nearly always be the strongest wizard in each arc ( blowing up something is just his thing )!!!

 

[Boomburst]

I don't know hax it is, but it most likely has a quantity limit. I can see her using the magic as a source to increase the potent of her magic.

Fro thinks so too!

Minus the possibility of Laxus joining.

Nah, Natsu is at best top 10.

How is Natsu only top ten? He's arguably stronger than Erza, he's a little higher than Gray and Gajeel, and he's around the level of Laxus and Jellal. Who are these nine FT wizards that you think are stronger than him?

 

[M3J]

How is Natsu only top ten? He's arguably stronger than Erza, he's a little higher than Gray and Gajeel, and he's around the level of Laxus and Jellal. Who are these nine FT wizards that you think are stronger than him?

Didn't Natsu work with Gajeel to beat Laxus? I forgot how he beat Jellal, but I'm sure it wasn't completely on his own. He's probably a bit higher than Gajeel, but I can't recall what puts him higher than Erza or Gray. Doesn't Natsu win most of his fights with help, like Jellal giving him some sort of fire magic to make him stronger? Even Gray and Natsu together had trouble against Mard Greer.

I don't think it has a limit since it is an Infinite Magic. Mavis said that it can make Etherion fired infinitely, if the magic source would be FH.

I always take these sorts of claims as exaggeration or hype, so I"d rather wait and see.

 

[Boomburst]

Didn't Natsu work with Gajeel to beat Laxus? I forgot how he beat Jellal, but I'm sure it wasn't completely on his own. He's probably a bit higher than Gajeel, but I can't recall what puts him higher than Erza or Gray. Doesn't Natsu win most of his fights with help, like Jellal giving him some sort of fire magic to make him stronger? Even Gray and Natsu together had trouble against Mard Greer.

I always take these sorts of claims as exaggeration or hype, so I"d rather wait and see.

All that was pre time skip, and if we were talking about pre time skip then I might agree with you. But Natsu has improved tremendously the most over the last year and he's miles above his pre time skip strength. He's had some incredible feats since the time skip, and I don't think it's fair to take feats from near the beginning of the manga and use those to rank his current power level.

 

[JohnnyMason]

x792 Natsu casually oneshot Bluenote without entering a mode or using an FDK spell which was something Gildarts couldn't even do. How is he at best Top Ten in the guild? He's at the very least top 5

 

[M3J]

All that was pre time skip, and if we were talking about pre time skip then I might agree with you. But Natsu has improved tremendously the most over the last year and he's miles above his pre time skip strength. He's had some incredible feats since the time skip, and I don't think it's fair to take feats from near the beginning of the manga and use those to rank his current power level.

Fro thinks so too, but where's the indication that he is above Gray, Gajeel, or Erza? Or that he's equal with Laxus?

(I legit can't remember btw, as I'm not a super fanboy otaku of this manga)

 

[Boomburst]

Fro thinks so too, but where's the indication that he is above Gray, Gajeel, or Erza? Or that he's equal with Laxus?

(I legit can't remember btw, as I'm not a super fanboy otaku of this manga)

The feats he's pulled off since the time skip are incredible. He casually oneshot Bluenote (who was as powerful as pre time skip Gildarts), he oneshot the God of War, and he oneshot a Spriggan (ok Makarov did punch him once but that was only to get him out of the guild so Natsu could go all out). Gajeel only beat Bradman by using Dragon Force and absorbing his magic, Erza needed Bisca's help to beat Ajeel, and Laxus's Spriggan was a fking robot. As for Gray, he hasn't even done anything impressive yet this entire arc and until he does it doesn't make sense to assume that he's as strong as Natsu.

 

[Timon]

The feats he's pulled off since the time skip are incredible. He casually oneshot Bluenote (who was as powerful as pre time skip Gildarts), he oneshot the God of War, and he oneshot a Spriggan (ok Makarov did punch him once but that was only to get him out of the guild so Natsu could go all out). Gajeel only beat Bradman by using Dragon Force and absorbing his magic, Erza needed Bisca's help to beat Ajeel, and Laxus's Spriggan was a fking robot. As for Gray, he hasn't even done anything impressive yet this entire arc and until he does it doesn't make sense to assume that he's as strong as Natsu.

Lol i doubt if Natsu could have beaten Jacob without Lucy's help (not counting Makarov because as you said, it was just a punch lol). Jacob isn't that strong lol he isn't a power and a defense type spriggan if you know what I mean. Comparing Bradman's hax and Ajeel's magic power to Jacob's, you'll definitely see how miniscule it is. I also don't think one should have a huge mp to be stealthy tbh. Aside from that, the "fcking robot" you're referring to has more firepower than Jacob and far more versatile. And besides how can one conclude anything about Gildart's power when he hasn't appeared since the pre time skip?

 

[Labi]

I don't know hax it is, but it most likely has a quantity limit. I can see her using the magic as a source to increase the potent of her magic.

Fro thinks so too!

Minus the possibility of Laxus joining.

Nah, Natsu is at best top 10.

I HONESTLY am waiting for a reason you set him top 10 lol
Almost nobody in FT surpasses him.
We've seen Laxus who i can say is on par with Natsu if they go all out lol
And we haven't even seen his DragonForce.
So please tell me who is actually above Natsu other then maybe Laxus and surely Gildarts.
Maybe we could take Gray in as "on par" with Natsu but from Gray.. Till now we've seen nothing lol
And please don't come with Erza... She might be strong but I think she lacks in terms of power compared to Natsu/Laxus.
Just see his BDKM. That's an really huge power boost and if his normal body heat melted Jacob's daggers then I honestly wonder how Erzas armors or swords will be still one piece after he activated BDKM lol. They should melt on contact with him.
With an intense heat like that he makes himself very hard to beat. He has no openings if he wants to. Just make it as hot as possible and just few can hit him xD
But please tell me who you put above him (considering that we haven't seen that much from FT charas and we haven't even seen 10 of them in action (i mean like mira and co. Not counting her silblings.. Fodder lol) you're just speculating who might be stronger) a ranking wouldn't be bad.

Before you ask: Yes Natsu is my favorite character but other then most I listen to the facts ^^ and what I said now are without consideration facts that prove that Natsu is without a doubt in the top 3 of Fairy Tail.

 

[Woodenstool]

Why does everyone think Gildarts is weaker than the spriggan 12 and August. Gildarts can level mountains with his fist with little effort. He can cancel out any spell August uses.

1. Acnologia
2. Zeref
3. Dimaria
4. Gildarts
5. Irene/August
6. Brandish/Invel (Zerefs servant)

 

[Static]

Why does everyone think Gildarts is weaker than the spriggan 12 and August. Gildarts can level mountains with his fist with little effort. He can cancel out any spell August uses.

1. Acnologia
2. Zeref
3. Dimaria
4. Gildarts
5. Irene/August
6. Brandish/Invel (Zerefs servant)

Gildarts is way too overrated *sigh*. You do understand that he can't cancel out all magic right? If that was the case, he wouldn't have lost to Acnologia before. Also, his mountain busting attacks compare lowly to the kind of characters we have now. August literally nuked the whole east with little effort, Irene casted a spell covering all of Fiore and Acnologia can literally bust entire countries. Gildarts's current strength is all hype and speculation but no feats.

Also Brandish shouldn't be that high. While her magic is certainly OP but Bradman, Dimaria etc have way more hax magic.

 

[Demon Hunter]

I can understand that Natsu is on par with Laxus, with Laxus having the slight edge but why are people putting Gildarts here?

 

[Woodenstool]

Gildarts is way too overrated *sigh*. You do understand that he can't cancel out all magic right? If that was the case, he wouldn't have lost to Acnologia before. Also, his mountain busting attacks compare lowly to the kind of characters we have now. August literally nuked the whole east with little effort, Irene casted a spell covering all of Fiore and Acnologia can literally bust entire countries. Gildarts's current strength is all hype and speculation but no feats.

Also Brandish shouldn't be that high. While her magic is certainly OP but Bradman, Dimaria etc have way more hax magic.

Speculation? Have you read KoTsh? Gildarts punched someone through an impregnable prison larger than a mountain. August spell wasn't even on mountain busting level. And Acnologia didn't use magic against Gildarts, he was sliced the same way God Serna was.

Gildarts is not overrated. And how do you know his magic isn't capable of canceling out any magic? Gildarts body is coated with crash. When Natsu punched his hand, crash activated automatically, same with walking through walls. I'm sorry bro, but Gildarts has insane speed feats even with a wooden leg.

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Lol i doubt if Natsu could have beaten Jacob without Lucy's help (not counting Makarov because as you said, it was just a punch lol). Jacob isn't that strong lol he isn't a power and a defense type spriggan if you know what I mean. Comparing Bradman's hax and Ajeel's magic power to Jacob's, you'll definitely see how miniscule it is. I also don't think one should have a huge mp to be stealthy tbh. Aside from that, the "fcking robot" you're referring to has more firepower than Jacob and far more versatile. And besides how can one conclude anything about Gildart's power when he hasn't appeared since the pre time skip?

It was stated that Natsu wasn't trying against Jacob because he would've destroyed the guild. As soon as he was out, he one shotted him. The spriggan 12 were said to be on the same general tier besides August and Irene.

Laxus nearly killed Ajeel in a single attack. So Laxus is clearly on Augusts' level. If he can casually take out a spriggan then it's clear as day Laxus is up there. And Gildarts hasn't been surpassed within a year.

 

[Static]

Speculation? Have you read KoTsh? Gildarts punched someone through an impregnable prison larger than a mountain. August spell wasn't even on mountain busting level. And Acnologia didn't use magic against Gildarts, he was sliced the same way God Serna was.

Gildarts is not overrated. And how do you know his magic isn't capable of canceling out any magic? Gildarts body is coated with crash. When Natsu punched his hand, crash activated automatically, same with walking through walls. I'm sorry bro, but Gildarts has insane speed feats even with a wooden leg.

1) http://img.mangastream.com/cdn/manga/3/3466/06.png - The nuke that August used was visible right from Magnolia and destroyed a good portion of where Natsu and co. were standing. The mountains don't even compare to the nuke's size.

2) Crash is like every magic. It has a weakness.

3) IIRC he isn't coated with crash, he used crash when Natsu attacked him.

4) Tell me this, if someone like Dimaria goes against Gildarts, can he win? No. Instant time stop = game over

 

[Woodenstool]

1) http://img.mangastream.com/cdn/manga/3/3466/06.png - The nuke that August used was visible right from Magnolia and destroyed a good portion of where Natsu and co. were standing. The mountains don't even compare to the nuke's size.

2) Crash is like every magic. It has a weakness.

3) IIRC he isn't coated with crash, he used crash when Natsu attacked him.

4) Tell me this, if someone like Dimaria goes against Gildarts, can he win? No. Instant time stop = game over

His attack was on a mountain which can be visible obviously.

http://fairytail.wikia.com/wiki/Crash?file=Gildarts_uses_Crash.gif

Gildarts destroys an entire mountain with ease. His attack is far larger than Augusts' attack, even Laxus nuke on Ajeel was larger.