Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Crimson Ice]

They were never driven out by Etherion or Face. They backed off because Zeref has told them too. Etherion > RL and would have disintegrated Laxus. Again where has it ever stated his Etherion was different from the Council's? Has there ever been a different Etherion? Etherion is a weapon which is charged by multiple elemental magics, and guess who specializes in weapons and can use any element...Wahl. Again they were charging Etherion with their power for an hour this how they activate the weapon.

Oh yeah but Zeref said it would do major damage regardless. LOOK AT THE TWO CANONS they are not the same, not even close to being the same so what makes you think they're the same strength? Etheroin is composed of multiple magics/properties:
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/98/5

Never denied that Wahl can use it just it's not on the same level as the Council's, nor is it being charged by fodder, the canon requires at least 2Billion 'Ideas' of sheer MP and considering someone like Jura only got 8000 during the GMG it;s safe to say it's not the 10 Council members charging it.

So no Wahl's canon isn't on the Council's level it was never implied to be, that's like saying all fire mages attack strength are the same Same magic doesn't equate to same strength.

 

[Jko]

its greater when it comes to travel distance (its similar to Roars) but the most important thing is what it does when it hits the target.

The energy it needed to travel that far is immense and he was only aiming at Fairy Tail. Dimaria stated he could have destroy Hargeon or Magnolia which both have a much bigger radius than the attacks Laxus and Natsu produced.

Oh yeah but Zeref said it would do major damage regardless. LOOK AT THE TWO CANONS they are not the same, not even close to being the same so what makes you think they're the same strength? Etheroin is composed of multiple magics/properties:
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/98/5

Never denied that Wahl can use it just it's not on the same level as the Council's, nor is it being charged by fodder, the canon requires at least 2Billion 'Ideas' of sheer MP and considering someone like Jura only got 8000 during the GMG it;s safe to say it's not the 10 Council members charging it.

So no Wahl's canon isn't on the Council's level it was never implied to be, that's like saying all fire mages attack strength are the same Same magic doesn't equate to same strength.

Yeah but that just could implied that would do major damage to his two million army not his actual S12. You have still yet to prove an actual difference between Etherions. A canon is only a way to shoot energy it's not the energy itself which is Etherion. Yeah and Wahl can use all those elements with his Weakness magic.

It was room full of fodder that charged it.

Spoiler

Etherion is Etherion there has never been a different type of Etherion. The magic has no other forms unlike regular magic.

 

[GodOfDestruction]

So I made it to this thread. Now that we have more Spriggans here's my list of people based on strength.
1.Acno
2.Zeref, August, Irene
3.Natsu,Erza,Laxus,Jellal,Mavis
4.Invel,Larcade,Bradman,God Serena,Gajeel
5.Sabertooth and Pegasus
6.Lamia and Mermaid
7.Dimaria,Wahl,Neinhart,Jacob
8.Strauss Siblings, Makarov, Wendy, Oracion Seis
9.Rest of FT
10.Ajeel, Brandish

 

[Jko]

Wow I don't even know where to begin with that list lol. I respect your opinion but a lot of people on that list need to be rearranged.

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oh please. do you know how big country really is? he would probably beat Acnologia with couple of his Etherion shots. he charged it with one hand lol.

Lol, Zeref needs infinite Etherion + himself + the S12 just to have a chance at beating Acnologia, no way a couple Etherion shots would bring him down.

 

[Demon Hunter]

Lol, Zeref needs infinite Etherion + himself + the S12 just to have a chance at beating Acnologia, no way a couple Etherion shots would bring him down.

infinitive Etherion shots. Mavis said that with Fairy Heart they can shot Etherion as much as they like. country is very big. I doubt that Acnologia can take more than a couple of hits.

 

[Char]

So I made it to this thread. Now that we have more Spriggans here's my list of people based on strength.
1.Acno
2.Zeref, August, Irene
3.Natsu,Erza,Laxus,Jellal,Mavis
4.Invel,Larcade,Bradman,God Serena,Gajeel
5.Sabertooth and Pegasus
6.Lamia and Mermaid
7.Dimaria,Wahl,Neinhart,Jacob
8.Strauss Siblings, Makarov, Wendy, Oracion Seis
9.Rest of FT
10.Ajeel, Brandish

If these are tiers I think you're overestimating Erza a bit though... She's not even borderline Spriggan level, she should be in tier 4,5. Tier 7 should be in tier 4, tier 8 should be above tier 5 and 6 and tier 10 should also be in tier 4.

If these weren't tiers, feel free to ignore my comment.

 

[GodOfDestruction]

If these are tiers I think you're understimating Erza a bit though... She's not even borderline Spriggan level, she should be in tier 4,5. Tier 7 should be in tier 4, tier 8 should be above tier 5 and 6 and tier 10 should also be in tier 4.

If these weren't tiers, feel free to ignore my comment.

Well then time to revise

 

[Demon Hunter]

for me its like this:
1. Acnologia
2. Zeref, August, Irene
3. Dimaria
4. Brandish
5. Laxus, God Serena
6. Natsu, Jellal, Wahl, Ajeel, Gajeel, Brandman
7. Erza, Gray,
8. Jacob, Neinhart, Kagura, Mirajane

 

[PeanutButterJelly]

for me its like this:
1. Acnologia
2. Zeref, August, Irene
3. Dimaria
4. Brandish
5. Laxus, God Serena
6. Natsu, Jellal, Wahl, Ajeel, Gajeel, Brandman
7. Erza, Gray,
8. Jacob, Neinhart, Kagura, Mirajane

Natsu,Erza,Gray,Mira and Kagura are all under the Spriggan,none of them was able to 1vs1 any of them.
Gajeel,well I don't know what to say,there was so much plot going on on that fught...
Jellal is at the bottom with the other Spriggan,although he beat Neinhart he would lose to Jacob,Laxus is also somewhere there I can't imagine beating any Spriggan,even Wahl was a wierd fight from my perspective.For someone who was the brain of a machine,he forgets to not attack Laxus with lightning,yeah sure.
Brandish is also a bit high,DiMaria as well,move them to Ajeel,Brandmann.Add GS to them as well.

 

[Demon Hunter]

Natsu,Erza,Gray,Mira and Kagura are all under the Spriggan,none of them was able to 1vs1 any of them.
Gajeel,well I don't know what to say,there was so much plot going on on that fught...
Jellal is at the bottom with the other Spriggan,although he beat Neinhart he would lose to Jacob,Laxus is also somewhere there I can't imagine beating any Spriggan,even Wahl was a wierd fight from my perspective.For someone who was the brain of a machine,he forgets to not attack Laxus with lightning,yeah sure.
Brandish is also a bit high,DiMaria as well,move them to Ajeel,Brandmann.Add GS to them as well.

tbh everything is because of the plot. I don't think Wahl knew that Laxus was a Dragon Slayer. he just resisted it. Jacob is a hax guy that can be countered if you are fast enough. Wahl got lucky that he was immune to his power, otherwise he would get stomped.

 

[JohnnyMason]

Natsu,Erza,Gray,Mira and Kagura are all under the Spriggan,none of them was able to 1vs1 any of them.
Gajeel,well I don't know what to say,there was so much plot going on on that fught...
Jellal is at the bottom with the other Spriggan,although he beat Neinhart he would lose to Jacob,Laxus is also somewhere there I can't imagine beating any Spriggan,even Wahl was a wierd fight from my perspective.For someone who was the brain of a machine,he forgets to not attack Laxus with lightning,yeah sure.
Brandish is also a bit high,DiMaria as well,move them to Ajeel,Brandmann.Add GS to them as well.

I disagree specifically with Natsu simply because of FDK Mode. His base mode should be slightly lower than Jacob.
Everything else seems fine.

 

[Stormsfury]

Natsu,Erza,Gray,Mira and Kagura are all under the Spriggan,none of them was able to 1vs1 any of them.
Gajeel,well I don't know what to say,there was so much plot going on on that fught...
Jellal is at the bottom with the other Spriggan,although he beat Neinhart he would lose to Jacob,Laxus is also somewhere there I can't imagine beating any Spriggan,even Wahl was a wierd fight from my perspective.For someone who was the brain of a machine,he forgets to not attack Laxus with lightning,yeah sure.
Brandish is also a bit high,DiMaria as well,move them to Ajeel,Brandmann.Add GS to them as well.

If you read the official translation, he didn't know that Laxus could absorb lightning and that's because he didn't know Laxus was a slayer of some kind. The official translation makes the fight much better.

 

[Brandish μ]

Acnologia

IgNatsu, Zeref, Mavis (with hype)
August, Irene

Laxus, Jellal, Natsu, DiMaria
God Serena, Wahl
Rest of the Spriggans

Erza, Gajeel, Gray, TO-Sherria, Hyberion
Wolfheim, Warrod, Jura


I can't say where Mira, Kagura, Sting etc fall... but I would say they should be below Jura. A lot of characters will be around this level I imagine, as it's hard to break into that Spriggan group.

Gajeel with his DF was probably in the Spriggan bracket, but I kept him back as it wasn't his own power. We might get to see him self-start it when he returns... I've got no reason to put Gray with Natsu either. Same goes for Erza, But she's earned her spot and could be higher than I gave her, but Gray I am being generous to.

Mard Geer/Hades/Gildarts all would be around the GoI.

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If you read the official translation, he didn't know that Laxus could absorb lightning and that's because he didn't know Laxus was a slayer of some kind. The official translation makes the fight much better.

Yes I think it's a misconception that we got when we first read the fight. We, the readers, know Laxus is a dragon slayer. But Wahl didn't. Even when he scanned Laxus all her saw were anti-magic particles, and that is all he commented on. Also Laxus didn't use a slayer technique in their fight, so there's that too.

 

[Takuan]

Acnologia

IgNatsu, Zeref, Mavis (with hype)
August, Irene

Laxus, Jellal, Natsu, DiMaria
God Serena, Wahl
Rest of the Spriggans

Erza, Gajeel, Gray, TO-Sherria, Hyberion
Wolfheim, Warrod, Jura

I think Dimaria should be above Laxus Jellal and Natsu, granted she has access to Age Seal. This is way too op.
I also think Brandish should be above Laxus/Jellal/Natsu, but i'd agree this is based on speculation as we've not seen what Brandish is fully capable of. Still, her magic is incredibly powerful. Not as haxy as Dimaria's so i'd rank her below, but still higher than J/L/N.
But that's my opinion.

 

[PeanutButterJelly]

Natsu can only rival a Spriggan if he has Igneel's power which is a one time thing.

Wahl was able to analyze most people and summon clones specificly created to counter their opponent,but look vs Laxus he did not.

 

[Shoutmon]

Natsu can only rival a Spriggan if he has Igneel's power which is a one time thing.

Wahl was able to analyze most people and summon clones specificly created to counter their opponent,but look vs Laxus he did not.

Natsu can stomp spriggans with Igneel's power. He can essentially one-shot Jacob-tier spriggans with his own power, provided they don't get him with their hax first.

 

[THE ALMIGHTY CRYBABY]

Gajeel with his DF was probably in the Spriggan bracket, but I kept him back as it wasn't his own power. We might get to see him self-start it when he returns...

I don't think Gajeel needs a power up to activate his DF if we consider that Wendy can activate it everytime at will. Gajeel absorbed the mbp, in order to change the property of his very own magic so that he could touch Bradman! DF Gajeel is for sure spriggan tier, maybe even on high spriggan tier.

Acnologia

IgNatsu, Zeref, Mavis (with hype)
August, Irene

Laxus, Jellal, Natsu, DiMaria
God Serena, Wahl
Rest of the Spriggans

Erza, Gajeel, Gray, TO-Sherria, Hyberion
Wolfheim, Warrod, Jura

Gray rly needs to show some feats but why are Wolfenheim and Warrod below Hyperion?
I also think that Base Natsu is on the same tier as Erza and as Base Gajeel.
Imo, Bradman and Dimaria ( Age Seal) are the strongest of the average spriggans!
And I want to see Brandish fighting someone strong in this arc so that we know her true power

 

[Arcueid]

I don't think Gajeel needs a power up to activate his DF if we consider that Wendy can activate it everytime at will. Gajeel absorbed the mbp, in order to change the property of his very own magic so that he could touch Bradman! DF Gajeel is for sure spriggan tier, maybe even on high spriggan tier.



Gray rly needs to show some feats but why are Wolfenheim and Warrod below Hyperion?
I also think that Base Natsu is on the same tier as Erza and as Base Gajeel.
Imo, Bradman and Dimaria ( Age Seal) are the strongest of the average spriggans!
And I want to see Brandish fighting someone strong in this arc so that we know her true power

I don't see any feat from Gajeel that would put him on the same tier as Base Natsu.
Having him even on the same tier with Gray and Erza is arguable.

 

[Takuan]

I don't think Gajeel needs a power up to activate his DF if we consider that Wendy can activate it everytime at will. Gajeel absorbed the mbp, in order to change the property of his very own magic so that he could touch Bradman! DF Gajeel is for sure spriggan tier, maybe even on high spriggan tier.



Gray rly needs to show some feats but why are Wolfenheim and Warrod below Hyperion?
I also think that Base Natsu is on the same tier as Erza and as Base Gajeel.
Imo, Bradman and Dimaria ( Age Seal) are the strongest of the average spriggans!
And I want to see Brandish fighting someone strong in this arc so that we know her true power

Wendy activating DF at will was just so that she could stay relevant and face opponent despite being kinda bad compared to the other DS. Gajeel said himself that he was lagging behind for DF, there's nothing to make us believe he can activate it at will. Even Natsu can't, or at least hasn't been showed to be able to.

Wolfheim and Warrod are below Hyberion because Hyberion has been portrayed as being better than them, and his Vampire magic impressed August which is already a feat by itself. Out of all GoI magics during their last attempt to take down God Serena, Hyberion's magic was the only one having a real impact.

You think Base Natsu is on the same tier as Erza and Base Gajeel? To be honest i don't know, that's possible. Even if they said they trained, Erza's power level didn't really increase much imo, same goes for Gajeel. In their fights they kinda looked as powerful as before timeskip. Maybe slightly better, especially Erza, Gajeel not that much better imo. Whereas Natsu improved tremendously.

I agree with you about Dimaria and Brandish, can't wait to see Brandish's true power!

 

[Brandish μ]

I don't think Gajeel needs a power up to activate his DF if we consider that Wendy can activate it everytime at will. Gajeel absorbed the mbp, in order to change the property of his very own magic so that he could touch Bradman! DF Gajeel is for sure spriggan tier, maybe even on high spriggan tier.

Gajeel only used some of the iron in the anti-magic particles, so yea it's not like when Natsu ate etherion. Just not sure if Gajeel can do it at will, but he probably can.

Gray rly needs to show some feats but why are Wolfenheim and Warrod below Hyperion?
I also think that Base Natsu is on the same tier as Erza and as Base Gajeel.
Imo, Bradman and Dimaria ( Age Seal) are the strongest of the average spriggans!
And I want to see Brandish fighting someone strong in this arc so that we know her true power

Hyberion did better against God Serena, to the point that August was specifically impressed with Hyberion only.

Base Natsu, for mine, is probably around Erza level or slightly above. However I don't split Natsu into base/FDKM as Natsu can use FDK whenever he wants really. Erza is above base Gajeel and base Gray imo.