Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Indira]

To be honest only Wendy knows how to enter DF. I'm talking about 1st Generation Slayers. Natsu appears to enter his whenever he snaps, like during Mard Gear fight or when he enhanced himself with Etherion.

Natsu still entered within his own will even if he snapped. He was just enraged. Right now he should have a better control of his DF and use it more efficiently within a year's time given his ridiculous/abnormal growth rate.

 

[kemor]

Natsu still entered within his own will even if he snapped. He was just enraged. Right now he should have a better control of his DF and use it more efficiently within a year's time given his ridiculous/abnormal growth rate.

Considering it took him 10 months to get a grip on how to use Igneel's power, I doubt he learned DF in 2 months. But we never know, he still hasn't used Lightning and I'm pretty sure he could use pure Lightning attacks if he wanted to. He could use them separately before, so why not now?

 

[Indira]

Considering it took him 10 months to get a grip on how to use Igneel's power, I doubt he learned DF in 2 months. But we never know, he still hasn't used Lightning and I'm pretty sure he could use pure Lightning attacks if he wanted to. He could use them separately before, so why not now?

Well given Natsu's ridiculous plot armor he can learn DF in two minutes.

I dont think he has LFD anymore. It's been replaced by FDKM mode imo.

 

[Kiki]

Currently we are holding an event called Fairy Tail Tournament and it's in SemiFinal stage. Battle 1 is Jellal vs Laxus and Battle 2 is Gildarts vs Natsu. You guys can continue your debate about them in there. Don't forget to keep the discussion civil ^ ^

 

[Woodenstool]

I did and it literally proved nothing. Some of the people on Gildarts' side had arguments such "Natsu has inconsistent strength" but literally forgot that it was only x784 and x791 Natsu(which are very much outdated now btw) that was portrayed that way. Natsu has consistently proved his strength during all of x792.

If Gildarts were truly stronger than Natsu then he would have beaten Bluenote with oneshot in much more casual way than Natsu what did.

Gildarts one shotted him after his magic returned.

 

[JohnnyMason]

Gildarts one shotted him after his magic returned.

That's not a one shot since both Gildarts and Bluenote had already exchanged hits with eachother before he lost his magic. May I also remind that Natsu was in his base mode and didn't even use an FDK spell.

 

[Woodenstool]

That's not a one shot since both Gildarts and Bluenote had already exchanged hits with eachother before he lost his magic. May I also remind that Natsu was in his base mode and didn't even use an FDK spell.

Ok? Natsu used a powerful range attack, Gildarts doesn't have ranged attacks.

 

[JohnnyMason]

Ok? Natsu used a powerful range attack, Gildarts doesn't have ranged attacks.

Are you implying that if Gildarts had ranged magic that he would have one shot Bluenote?

 

[Woodenstool]

Are you implying that if Gildarts had ranged magic that he would have one shot Bluenote?

Gildart and Bluenote were exchanging blows but Gildarts didn't infuse crash with his blows. You know crash, the magic that destroyed a mountain. Gildarts wanted to make bluenote to suffer for messing with Cana.

This is off topic but if someone messed with your loved one, would you shot him or beat his ass?

One attack infused with Crash was more than enough to defeat Bluenote. It divided the clouds and stopped the storm from the force of that punch.

 

[Hermit]

I honestly don't see him losing to Neinhart and I'm pretty certain he can beat Ajeel too.

NeinHart can just summon Zancrow, Hades, Doriate or Fukuro (?) from Natsu's memories, I'm pretty sure Natsu is helpless against the Law of Retrogression and Zancrow can eat his flames so..
For an emotional effect, he can even bring up Future Lucy, who I'm dead sure Natsu won't be able to fight..
How would Natsu beat Ajeel? He can't even touch his body normally in the first place

 

[Crimson Ice]

NeinHart can just summon Zancrow, Hades, Doriate or Fukuro (?) from Natsu's memories, I'm pretty sure Natsu is helpless against the Law of Retrogression and Zancrow can eat his flames so..
For an emotional effect, he can even bring up Future Lucy, who I'm dead sure Natsu won't be able to fight..
How would Natsu beat Ajeel? He can't even touch his body normally in the first place

Natsu has literally punched Ajeel in the face yet can't touch his body

 

[Hermit]

Natsu has literally punched Ajeel in the face yet can't touch his body

Only because Ajeel had his guard down, its the same way Erza touched him when she used Neptune's Sword, if Ajeel fights Natsu seriously? There's no way he's going to win, at all

 

[Crimson Ice]

Only because Ajeel had his guard down, its the same way Erza touched him when she used Neptune's Sword, if Ajeel fights Natsu seriously? There's no way he's going to win, at all

Uh no, Ajeel's intangibility seems passive not to mention Erza never caught him off guard, it was said the Neptune hardened his sand that's why she hit not not because he was off guard. So yeah, Natsu can for sure hit him.

 

[JohnnyMason]

Gildart and Bluenote were exchanging blows but Gildarts didn't infuse crash with his blows. You know crash, the magic that destroyed a mountain. Gildarts wanted to make bluenote to suffer for messing with Cana.

This is off topic but if someone messed with your loved one, would you shot him or beat his ass?

One attack infused with Crash was more than enough to defeat Bluenote. It divided the clouds and stopped the storm from the force of that punch.

You made a good point on Gildarts' magic however when does the manga ever show that he wanted to make Bluenote suffer. They were exchanging blows if he had wanted to make him suffer than he should have used his magic to begin with and keep on repeatedly attacking him.

It varies on who or what I am dealing with. If they are a major threat then I would have one shot them. If they weren't a major threat then maybe I'll beat them.

If you accept calculations for feats then I can tell you both the mountain busting and the finishing attack that Gildarts used weren't as impressive as feats such as Natsu vaporizing the lake and Laxus' Lightning Nuke.

 

[Woodenstool]

You made a good point on Gildarts' magic however when does the manga ever show that he wanted to make Bluenote suffer. They were exchanging blows if he had wanted to make him suffer than he should have used his magic to begin with and keep on repeatedly attacking him.

It varies on who or what I am dealing with. If they are a major threat then I would have one shot them. If they weren't a major threat then maybe I'll beat them.

If you accept calculations for feats then I can tell you both the mountain busting and the finishing attack that Gildarts used weren't as impressive as feats such as Natsu vaporizing the lake and Laxus' Lightning Nuke.

I hope you're joking, Natsu evaporating a lake is more impressive than Gildarts destroying a mountain. Lol ok.

Laxus nuke can be destroyed by Gildarts. There's a reason why he isn't in this arc, he would eat anyone and the fights would be boring.

Ajeel attacks, Gildart uses crash
Walh attacks, Gildarts uses crash
Etc

 

[Crimson Ice]

I hope you're joking, Natsu evaporating a lake is more impressive than Gildarts destroying a mountain. Lol ok.

Laxus nuke can be destroyed by Gildarts. There's a reason why he isn't in this arc, he would eat anyone and the fights would be boring.

Ajeel attacks, Gildart uses crash
Walh attacks, Gildarts uses crash
Etc

Another case of a person thinking a hax can do anything........ *rolls eyes*

 

[JohnnyMason]

I hope you're joking, Natsu evaporating a lake is more impressive than Gildarts destroying a mountain. Lol ok.

Laxus nuke can be destroyed by Gildarts. There's a reason why he isn't in this arc, he would eat anyone and the fights would be boring.

Ajeel attacks, Gildart uses crash
Walh attacks, Gildarts uses crash
Etc

I am dead serious
Gildarts "Mountain" Busting
Natsu Vaporizes Lake Sciliora
http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Use...?useskin=oasis#Magnolia_scaling?useskin=oasis

Yes because Gildarts is so strong to the point that he can possibly defeat Zeref all by himself

 

[Woodenstool]

I am dead serious
Gildarts "Mountain" Busting
Natsu Vaporizes Lake Sciliora
http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/User_blogontTalk/Natsu_vaporizes_Lake_Scilliora_calc_(Fairy_Tail)?useskin=oasis#Magnolia_scaling?useskin=oasis

Yes because Gildarts is so strong to the point that he can possibly defeat Zeref all by himself

Edit- I read your link and Natsus attack was city level. That doesn't change the fact that he used his strongest attacks to perform that feat. Gildarts on the other hand casually destroyed a mountain. And melting rocks and water are completely different.

I'm not a fanboy, I don't even like Gildarts. I'm just showing concrete evidence

Edit- Actually Natsu isn't city level, him evaporating water doesn't make in that level.

 

[Boomburst]

Edit- I read your link and Natsus attack was city level. That doesn't change the fact that he used his strongest attacks to perform that feat. Gildarts on the other hand casually destroyed a mountain. And melting rocks and water are completely different.

I'm not a fanboy, I don't even like Gildarts. I'm just showing concrete evidence

Edit- Actually Natsu isn't city level, him evaporating water doesn't make in that level.

Gildarts didn't melt any rocks lmao, he just crushed them. And idk why you're comparing the two situations, they're completely different. The mountain was destroyed by Gildarts using his magic. The lake was evaporated merely by Natsu's PRESENCE. It's not like Gildarts was flying over a mountain and his magical aura was so strong that the mountain disintegrated. It's not like Natsu was using his magic ON the lake. The two scenarios are different.

 

[Woodenstool]

Gildarts didn't melt any rocks lmao, he just crushed them. And idk why you're comparing the two situations, they're completely different. The mountain was destroyed by Gildarts using his magic. The lake was evaporated merely by Natsu's PRESENCE. It's not like Gildarts was flying over a mountain and his magical aura was so strong that the mountain disintegrated. It's not like Natsu was using his magic ON the lake. The two scenarios are different.

Natsu presence didn't evaporate the entire lake. Blaze dragon King mode did that. And if that mountain was placed on that lake, it would completely cover it.