I know that @Woodenstool comment sometimes too stupid and that it is simply not relevant but he did prove some point here and there but you guys replied to his comments ( that had some point ) like it's some kind of bs . Some people that replied to him came up with a ridiculous answer too lol ( no offence ) .
He hasn't proved any points though, if he had we would have acknowledged it. That's the whole reason why we don't take him seriously in the first place, because he has yet to make a single valid point or coherent argument that doesn't revolve around bias and blatant ignoring of every counterargument presented to him.
Honestly we probably would respect him a lot more if he wasn't an arrogant asshole who delights in telling people that they're retarded and that he's the only smart one on these forums despite his complete inability to actually form a single logical argument.
Taking your proof from a superhero tv show where the main character can travel through time by running fast
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Sorry I just had to let that out, that was just too hilarious
That's not how memories work. Brandish should still have the memory of wanting to kill August regardless of whether the task was completed or not. Keep grasping at straws buddy.
So the fact that August was pierced is proof of his low durability to you, but the fact that he didn't die from that stab is somehow plot armor and not proof of high durability? God the hypocrisy is rich.
He hasn't proved any points though, if he had we would have acknowledged it. That's the whole reason why we don't take him seriously in the first place, because he has yet to make a single valid point or coherent argument that doesn't revolve around bias and blatant ignoring of every counterargument presented to him.
Honestly we probably would respect him a lot more if he wasn't an arrogant asshole who delights in telling people that they're retarded and that he's the only smart one on these forums despite his complete inability to actually form a single logical argument.
I could care less, you said August busted multiple mountains when there's a panel of the attack. You can see both sides of the attack and you still claim that "oh it was seen from a distance meaning he could've busted several mountains". That's not a valid counter argument when there is actual evidence of the attack. Gildarts casual punch just demolished the landscape, that attack had more range compared to August's attack. And Gildarts wasn't all mad like August, and August's attack didn't hurt Lucy and Natsu. Which is why I said Laxus's attack is stronger because his casual nuke was meant to kill Ajeel, the mage with equal powers to August (nearly). But then you say August is stronger because "strongest man" bs like titles mean sh*t in Fairy Tail. The God of war was dropped with Igneels flames, King of the underworld was melted with 5 ice make attacks. ETC.
You can't use August's titles as foundation for your claims when there are a lot of counters to them.
Maybe " prove " a point is not the right words , but " point " out a point that is relevant enough to be discuss about but some people replied to him with some of the irrelevant and ridiculous answers ever lol.
Lol well the reason for that is because most people don't want to have a legit discussion with him anymore because they know that nothing they say will register in his head. So why bother, u know?
I'm not one of those people though, I personally love debating with him just to see what nonsensical "proof" he can come up with.
I could care less, you said August busted multiple mountains when there's a panel of the attack. You can see both sides of the attack and you still claim that "oh it was seen from a distance meaning he could've busted several mountains". That's not a valid counter argument when there is actual evidence of the attack.
See this is exactly what I'm talking about. I've already addressed in great detail why Gildart's attack wasn't casual in past posts, but you keep ignoring them and you keep claiming that it was despite all the evidence to the contrary.
Which is why I said Laxus's attack is stronger because his casual nuke was meant to kill Ajeel, the mage with equal powers to August (nearly). But then you say August is stronger because "strongest man" bs like titles mean sh*t in Fairy Tail.
Completely different. The God of War was given an impressive title, sure, but that's all he has. His power was never compared to others and he were never hyped to be extremely powerful, unlike August.
As for Mard Geer, he was able to casually solo Natsu and the Twin dragons at the same time, fight the CSK, beat DF Natsu, and only lost because Gray got a powerup from his dad and his magic had the advantage against him. That's pretty damn impressive.
I think i should make one point here.The attack that Natsu made against Ikusa-Tsunagi was solid mountain level attack.It completely destroyed a mountain sized target and shattered it into pieces.He did with his own power(we saw in chap 495 that he can use FDK spells in Base state).Almost all top tier characters now can make mountain level attacks.
Mountain busted http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/417/14
You see trees scattered everywhere on the mountain and even a river on it. Those trees are way taller than Gildarts and Natsu. comparing both images you can clearly see August's attack didn't stretch that far whiles Gildarts attack destroyed a mountain that had a river on it. August's attack would fit on that land where that river is on. The thing is that August's will travel above the clouds but by time tha happens, it's alreadys gets thinner.
Gildarts casual mountain busting punch is larger than August's attack. Now Daniel, please try your hardest to make a counter argument. Best you combine the intellect of all your 'friends' for this one.
Lol well the reason for that is because most people don't want to have a legit discussion with him anymore because they know that nothing they say will register in his head. So why bother, u know?
I'm not one of those people though, I personally love debating with him just to see what nonsensical "proof" he can come up with.
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The evidence being...?
See this is exactly what I'm talking about. I've already addressed in great detail why Gildart's attack wasn't casual in past posts, but you keep ignoring them and you keep claiming that it was despite all the evidence to the contrary.
Because it was a heat based magic and Natsu was able to negate it.
August was stated to have power incomparable to the rest of the 12. That's not a title buddy, that's a description of his strength. Keep trying.
Completely different. The God of War was given an impressive title, sure, but that's all he has. His power was never compared to others and he were never hyped to be extremely powerful, unlike August.
As for Mard Geer, he was able to casually solo Natsu and the Twin dragons at the same time, fight the CSK, beat DF Natsu, and only lost because Gray got a powerup from his dad and his magic had the advantage against him. That's pretty damn impressive.
Counters like what? Can you come up with anything new other than Brandish's stab and his pillar of flame?
I think i should make one point here.The attack that Natsu made against Ikusa-Tsunagi was solid mountain level attack.It completely destroyed a mountain sized target and shattered it into pieces.He did with his own power(we saw in chap 495 that he can use FDK spells in Base state).Almost all top tier characters now can make mountain level attacks.
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They may be mountain level but Gildarts magic was able to destroy mountain. So any attack from those characters would get negated by Gildarts.
That is debatable.May be he can or may he cannot.If you remember Gildarts himself was not sure who would win if he and full powered God Serena clashed.So him negating all attacks of August at this point of time seems impossible as August is stronger than God Serena.
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Gildarts destroyed a mountain. Ok. By why are you under the impression that August couldn't do the same thing? You really need to stop basing your entire argument on the one single attack you saw from August. Yeah August was mad but he didn't go on a rampage. As you can see he simply said "Dissolve into oblivion". He didn't scream it, he wasn't making any elaborate hand gestures to add force behind his attack. He didn't seem to exert much effort at all. All he did was open his eye a little wider lol. http://eatmanga.com/Manga-Scan/Fairy-Tail/Fairy-Tail-489/page-5 http://eatmanga.com/Manga-Scan/Fairy-Tail/Fairy-Tail-489/page-6
Then we have Gildarts who put a lot of effort into destroying part of the mountain (not the whole mountain) Invel's ice surrounding the guild is still intact. Smashing the ground like a boss. http://mangastream.com/r/fairy_tail/497/3593/14
It's not unimpressive. It's actually really really awesome. But if you're going to compare the level (length + width) of the attacks maybe you should take into consideration the effort put into the attacks. August was aiming at Natsu and co and barely seemed bothered although he was mad. You can compare it to the way he laser beamed Mira. Even Irene didn't see that coming. Dude just casually lifts a finger and bam. When August get's serious we'll know. Hype Gildarts as much as you want but the fact is August hasn't done anything yet. You've also been mentioning how even Lucy and Happy survived his blast. Please don't conveniently forget Universe One. That magic basically nullified everything that was in process at that moment, so there are no conclusive results to the effects of August's attack. So using it hype Gildarts will always be inaccurate no matter how many panels are used to show how "small" the radius was in comparison to super mountain busting.
Mountain busted http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/417/14
You see trees scattered everywhere on the mountain and even a river on it. Those trees are way taller than Gildarts and Natsu. comparing both images you can clearly see August's attack didn't stretch that far whiles Gildarts attack destroyed a mountain that had a river on it. August's attack would fit on that land where that river is on. The thing is that August's will travel above the clouds but by time tha happens, it's alreadys gets thinner.
Gildarts casual mountain busting punch is larger than August's attack. Now Daniel, please try your hardest to make a counter argument. Best you combine the intellect of all your 'friends' for this one.
Proof that the rock formations aren't as tall as the trees? In the panel you showed it looks like August and Natsu's group are standing a fair distance away from those rock formations.
Bruh if you look at the next panel you can clearly see the pillar behind a freaking mountain. There's no way in hell it would still look that large from that far away if it was as small as you claim it is.
For the love of god man, I've already gone over in great detail why Gildart's "mountain busting punch" wasn't casual. I even brought this up in the comment you responded to but I should have known you would just ignore it again like always.
Proof that the rock formations aren't as tall as the trees? In the panel you showed it looks like August and Natsu's group are standing a fair distance away from those rock formations.
Bruh if you look at the next panel you can clearly see the pillar behind a freaking mountain. There's no way in hell it would still look that large from that far away if it was as small as you claim it is.
For the love of god man, I've already gone over in great detail why Gildart's "mountain busting punch" wasn't casual. I even brought this up in the comment you responded to but I should have known you would just ignore it again like always.
A fair distance away? http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/486/12 >August is standing 15 feet away from one. It doesn't matter if it was behind a mountain like kid, his attack travels to the sky so its obviously going to be seen. The mountains in that picture aren't above the clouds lol. Minerva God attack would be seen from a far distance because its a bright light traveling above the clouds.
Gildarts punch was casual, he wasn't even passing out over an attack like that.
Gildarts destroyed a mountain. Ok. By why are you under the impression that August couldn't do the same thing? You really need to stop basing your entire argument on the one single attack you saw from August. Yeah August was mad but he didn't go on a rampage. As you can see he simply said "Dissolve into oblivion". He didn't scream it, he wasn't making any elaborate hand gestures to add force behind his attack. He didn't seem to exert much effort at all. All he did was open his eye a little wider lol. http://eatmanga.com/Manga-Scan/Fairy-Tail/Fairy-Tail-489/page-5 http://eatmanga.com/Manga-Scan/Fairy-Tail/Fairy-Tail-489/page-6
Then we have Gildarts who put a lot of effort into destroying part of the mountain (not the whole mountain) Invel's ice surrounding the guild is still intact. Smashing the ground like a boss. http://mangastream.com/r/fairy_tail/497/3593/14
It's not unimpressive. It's actually really really awesome. But if you're going to compare the level (length + width) of the attacks maybe you should take into consideration the effort put into the attacks. August was aiming at Natsu and co and barely seemed bothered although he was mad. You can compare it to the way he laser beamed Mira. Even Irene didn't see that coming. Dude just casually lifts a finger and bam. When August get's serious we'll know. Hype Gildarts as much as you want but the fact is August hasn't done anything yet. You've also been mentioning how even Lucy and Happy survived his blast. Please don't conveniently forget Universe One. That magic basically nullified everything that was in process at that moment, so there are no conclusive results to the effects of August's attack. So using it hype Gildarts will always be inaccurate no matter how many panels are used to show how "small" the radius was in comparison to super mountain busting.
I'm not hpying Gildarts, his attacks are larger, his magic is mean't to destroy other magics. If August's spell wasn't even as large as the mountain that Gildarts casually destroyed, what makes you think any other attack from August would work? They won't, it would get negated. Plain and simple.
August was going for the kill, thats why you see him push Brandish on the side. Gildarts wasn't trying to kill anything, if he punched the animal directly, he would've sent it flying along with Natsu in it.
I think August's Melt spell is around the same size as Laxus' nuke. I think Melt > nuke because August was peeved and he's stronger than Laxus. August was able to stop that exact nuke too rather easily it seemed, which sort of helps the support Melt > nuke. So to even fight August you'll need more power than Laxus' nuke to break the barriers, or have a hax.
Gildarts punch on the ground this chapter was more concentrated than the mountain punch too imo. His AoE didn't really bump up, which is consistent with his breaking of Serena's spells. It seems to me that Gildarts has improved his efficiency and/or potency of his attacks.
I wonder does Gildarts is truly able to crash any magic..
He spar with GS for some time and even uses crash while he was next to him ( Commented by GS )
While GS was a spell himself that time ( one of three conjured by Neinhart ) didn't disappear here or when Gildarts arrive and crash his attack on FT mages..
We will probably find that limit during his Fight with August or someone else
A fair distance away? http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/486/12 >August is standing 15 feet away from one. It doesn't matter if it was behind a mountain like kid, his attack travels to the sky so its obviously going to be seen. The mountains in that picture aren't above the clouds lol. Minerva God attack would be seen from a far distance because its a bright light traveling above the clouds.
Gildarts punch was casual, he wasn't even passing out over an attack like that.
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I'm not hpying Gildarts, his attacks are larger, his magic is mean't to destroy other magics. If August's spell wasn't even as large as the mountain that Gildarts casually destroyed, what makes you think any other attack from August would work? They won't, it would get negated. Plain and simple.
August was going for the kill, thats why you see him push Brandish on the side. Gildarts wasn't trying to kill anything, if he punched the animal directly, he would've sent it flying along with Natsu in it.
I'd say it's more like 20 feet away, but whatever. Just look at the formation to his right though. Based on how far away it is and how big it looks I'd say it's pretty damn tall.
No one is even talking about how high the pillar was, this whole argument was always about its thickness.
So you think a serious attack makes someone pass out and any other attack that doesn't do that is casual. I......I don't....whaaaaaattttt?
Or maybe August pushed Brandish to the side because he didn't want her to get hurt. Doesn't mean that his attack was going all out.
Buddy if August drops a pillar of flame on Gildarts he's pretty much screwed. We've only seen him crash spells that are launched towards him like a projectile, like Natsu's roar. There s no time for Gildarts to crash August's spell because the pillar is basically instantaneous.
I'm not hpying Gildarts, his attacks are larger, his magic is mean't to destroy other magics. If August's spell wasn't even as large as the mountain that Gildarts casually destroyed, what makes you think any other attack from August would work? They won't, it would get negated. Plain and simple.
August was going for the kill, thats why you see him push Brandish on the side. Gildarts wasn't trying to kill anything, if he punched the animal directly, he would've sent it flying along with Natsu in it.
You are hyping Gildarts. Your entire posts and the fact that you chose August of all people to compare him to when you could have used God Serena (not Historia) or some other mage whose feats we've actually seen says it all really.
August's spell didn't need to be as large as a mountain. Once again you're overlooking their objectives. Gildarts was attacking THOUSANDS of soldiers, fodder or not, whereas August was targeting 3 persons and a giant cat.
August was going for the kill yes. Once again you're overlooking Universe One. His spell was interrupted. If Universe one hadn't been used who's to say he wouldn't have succeeded? Natsu absorbed some of the flames, but who is to say August couldn't have amplified the power of the spell? Who's to say he couldn't add other elements to make it impossible for Natsu to eat it, the same way he couldn't eat God Serena's mixed magic?
Everything you're saying is based on speculation. You're trying to pass them off as facts when they're really not. Some of it is borderline fanfiction. Gildarts attacks are larger you say? In comparison to what? August's ONE spell that we've actually seen? Gildarts didn't casually destroy the Mountain. He put a bit of effort into breaking up a PART of the mountain, like I already pointed out Invel's ice is still intact around the guild and around the top of the mountain.
You don't know any other attack from August. He's the KING of magic so i'm pretty sure he's familiar with Gildarts' magic and has a counter. Unless your next move is to try and convince us that Gildarts magic can't be countered, thus hyping him even more? This is where you'd have to provide solid evidence and i'm pretty sure you can't. So no. Not plain and simple as you so nicely put it.
You are hyping Gildarts. Your entire posts and the fact that you chose August of all people to compare him to when you could have used God Serena (not Historia) or some other mage whose feats we've actually seen says it all really.
August's spell didn't need to be as large as a mountain. Once again you're overlooking their objectives. Gildarts was attacking THOUSANDS of soldiers, fodder or not, whereas August was targeting 3 persons and a giant cat.
August was going for the kill yes. Once again you're overlooking Universe One. His spell was interrupted. If Universe one hadn't been used who's to say he wouldn't have succeeded? Natsu absorbed some of the flames, but who is to say August couldn't have amplified the power of the spell? Who's to say he couldn't add other elements to make it impossible for Natsu to eat it, the same way he couldn't eat God Serena's mixed magic?
Everything you're saying is based on speculation. You're trying to pass them off as facts when they're really not. Some of it is borderline fanfiction. Gildarts attacks are larger you say? In comparison to what? August's ONE spell that we've actually seen? Gildarts didn't casually destroy the Mountain. He put a bit of effort into breaking up a PART of the mountain, like I already pointed out Invel's ice is still intact around the guild and around the top of the mountain.
You don't know any other attack from August. He's the KING of magic so i'm pretty sure he's familiar with Gildarts' magic and has a counter. Unless your next move is to try and convince us that Gildarts magic can't be countered, thus hyping him even more? This is where you'd have to provide solid evidence and i'm pretty sure you can't. So no. Not plain and simple as you so nicely put it.
Gildarts has casual mountain busting punches and insane speed. All he would have to do is the superman treatment. One mountain busting punch flies him, Gildarts with his insane speed gets in his face again and throws another. August couldn't take a knife, he's not taking more than 3 punches that busted a mountain.
August spell still hit the Fairy tail members long before Universe one was used. Irene's spell took a while to be in affect. In that time Natsu was just negating the spell. Did you not watch the anime? He leveled the mountain bud.
Dimaria stops time and demolishes everyone on your list but the obvious two being Acno and Zeref. God Serena is higher than Natsu no matter what state he's in. Dragon force and FDKM is just hotter fire/magic power for Serena.
Larcade is higher than August because he has the ability defeat Acnologia. August and Irene wouldn't do anything to Acnologia. Laxus is on par with August/Irene based on feats. His casual nuke would cover the entire town of Hagieron(the place where Dimiara and Walh were at). Plot made the story interesting allowing Laxus to suffer from a disease and paired him with an enemy that's immune to magic.
August barrier spell is made of magic, crash destroys magic so Gildarts wins there. Invel is clearly stronger than Natsu, his presence froze his flames and Natsu.
Gildarts has casual mountain busting punches and insane speed. All he would have to do is the superman treatment. One mountain busting punch flies him, Gildarts with his insane speed gets in his face again and throws another. August couldn't take a knife, he's not taking more than 3 punches that busted a mountain.
August spell still hit the Fairy tail members long before Universe one was used. Irene's spell took a while to be in affect. In that time Natsu was just negating the spell. Did you not watch the anime? He leveled the mountain bud.
August didn't expect BRANDISH of all people to stab him so it's not that he couldn't take a knife it's that he wasn't expecting it. He didn't exactly drop dead from the wound did he? I think if he were to fight say...an ENEMY...he'd fare a lot better. Stop overlooking obvious situations to try and make your point. Gildarts is fast but you don't know if he's faster than August and you're assuming August is going to just stand there and let Gildarts hit him? LOL. Brandish stabbed him in "Grandpa" mode. Let her try that shit when he's in Magic King mode and then get back to me. You're saying August can only take 2 or 3 punches from Gildarts before he'd lose whereas God Serena put up a bit of a fight in Historia mode. So by your account Historia God Serena > August?
"Long before Universe One was used" No. Acnologia/Irene was happening at the exact same time as August/Natsu and co. and Gajeel/Bradman, hence why it interrupted both fights and saved Gajeel and Natsu and co.
And what Anime? The Alvarez arc has not been animated yet what are you talking about?
God Serena has good firepower and an advantage of diversity in his magic but none of his attacks damaged someone of significance. Featless characters who haven't even fought anyone else(GoI) and Jura(who is on Bluenote level) is not a good measuring stick..Natsu beats him in almost every category besides the fact that GS has more types of magic.
Larcade is higher than August because he has the ability defeat Acnologia.
Through combat? No..I don't think so. He can be more effective against Acno than August because of a trump card or something like that,but that doesn't make him stronger than August. For that statement to make Larcade>August,Larcade needs to be stronger than Acno overall..He obviously isn't..His soul reaping ability will most likely weaken Acno who has collected Dragon Souls in the past to get stronger
August and Irene wouldn't do anything to Acnologia.
Yeah,Laxus is much stronger than Wahl,I agree. That's why the whole disease thing happened but that still doesn't make him stronger than August.
August barrier spell is made of magic, crash destroys magic so Gildarts wins there. Invel is clearly stronger than Natsu, his presence froze his flames and Natsu.
I don't think I want to discuss Gildarts with you(I've read previous discussion) so I'll pass on that. Invel is stronger than the current Natsu,I agree to that. DF should be a significant boost,however and close to Natsu's endgame power..Natsu..the guy who'll fight people like Zeref and Acno soon.
