Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Raven]

Zeroth Destruction blade the first time, got good damage him. He was grimacy in pain, holding his upper region. That's considered not tanking. He was fighting Gray seriously, just simply wasn't going all out, and held back to an extent that is only if one hand fighting style isn't his style.

Yeah, I guess Jacob isn't spriggan level either then.

He didn't touch gray once, Juvia did more damage to gray than Invel.
Invel is good at freezing, He should be a refrigerator.

Jacob >>>> Invel until this very date.

 

[Kantos]

He didn't touch gray once, Juvia did more damage to gray than Invel.
Invel is good at freezing i suggest he should be a refrigerator.

Jacob >>>> Invel until this very date.

He made Base Gray shiver, something no other ice mage has ever done to him, threw ice sludges, produced higher level AOE to counter DeS Longsword the second time around with his hand. Instant froze his Impact. These are all offensive attacks and maneuveurs. Juvia didn't come close to that producing level of output in damage on Gray (esp when Gray manhandled her for the most part)

LOL no. Jacob practically did nothing in that battle, and got two shotted. Invel is quite ahead of Jacob, due to the fact that he casually froze Base Natsu's flames, and put all Juvia, Natsu and Lucy into ice cubes. Show me anything Jacob has done in that level?

 

[Asorx]

He made Base Gray shiver, something no other ice mage has ever done to him, threw ice sludges, produced AOE to counter DeS Longsword the second time around Instant froze his is Impact. These are all offensive attacks and maneuveurs. Juvia didn't come close to that producing level of output in damage on Gray (esp when Gray manhandled her for the most part)

LOL Jacob isn't even close to being that much ahead of Invel. Jacob practically did nothing in that battle, and got two shotted. Invel is quite ahead of Jacob, due to the fact that he casually froze Base Natsu's flames, and put all Juvia, Natsu and Lucy into ice cubes. Show me anything Jacob has done in that level?

Can kill all the gulid with single slap.

 

[Kantos]

Can kill all the gulid with single slap.

Did he do it? Nope.

Invel's feats are ahead of Jacob's. This shouldn't even be a debate. Seriously.

 

[Asorx]

Did he do it? Nope.

but he can. He just leave them because he need infromation of FH.

 

[Kantos]

but he can. He just leave them because he need infromation of FH.

Invel can instantly kill someone or various amount of multiple people by freezing them, and breaking their frozen body ( bodies)

 

[Asorx]

Invel can instantly kill someone or various amount of multiple people by freezing them, and breaking their frozen body ( bodies)

I know for me Invel is stronger than Jackob but you said "Yeah, I guess Jacob isn't spriggan level either then." so i want to explain why he deserve to be spirnngan.
Edit. Invel dosen't have boobs so i think Jackob can do good fight to him

 

[Raven]

He made Base Gray shiver, something no other ice mage has ever done to him, threw ice sludges, produced AOE to counter DeS Longsword the second time around Instant froze his is Impact. These are all offensive attacks and maneuveurs. Juvia didn't come close to that producing level of output in damage on Gray (esp when Gray manhandled her for the most part)

LOL Jacob isn't even close to being that much ahead of Invel. Jacob practically did nothing in that battle, and got two shotted. Invel is quite ahead of Jacob, due to the fact that he casually froze Base Natsu's flames, and put all Juvia, Natsu and Lucy into ice cubes. Show me anything Jacob has done in that level?

He soloed the whole guild including Makarov(Someone who hold Acnologia back before) which is >>>>>>>> everything Invel did, Thanks to Horologium ofc, He was the main reason why Natsu and Lucy didn't fall to his hax magic as well. The way he got defeated wasn't good blame Hiro for that, Jacob did his job as a mid tier spriggan.

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Invel can instantly kill someone or various amount of multiple people by freezing them, and breaking their frozen body ( bodies)

Where is the feats for that ( Break frozen bodies )

 

[Demon Hunter]

tbh Jacob without his Transport is crap. his firepower is lower than Romeo's. he is a joke.

Invel is Ajeel 2.0 who instead of sand uses ice. he is not THAT strong. you can still use magic when you are frozen.

that doesn't mean Gray beating him is bad though, even if he is resistant to Invel' ice. not 100% resistant but still resistant.

 

[Axiomus]

tbh Jacob without his Transport is crap. his firepower is lower than Romeo's. he is a joke.

Invel is Ajeel 2.0 who instead of sand uses ice. he is not THAT strong. you can still use magic when you are frozen.

I wouldn't say lower than Romeo. Jacob's firepower at the very least should be above the level of the people in Brandish's squad, Ajeel's squad, Neinhart's squad, or Juliet & Heine. I would also put his hand to hand strikes above Jura or Wolfheim's. Using weapons, assuming he has bladed weapons, his damage output should be no lower than Dimaria carrying her sword.

 

[Freya]

It is hard to compare between jacob and invel, they have different type of magic.. Jacob indeed has powerful magic but he got oneshotted easily means other than his powerful magic he has real low durability which become his weakness. i think they have their own part. They are not main characters who have no weakness

agree and disagree with Jean Grey, Invel is more like Ajeel with different element and with different type of strategy. Different attitude to be precise.
And according to Invel, he wasnt really surprised to see natsu able to break his ice. So probably stronger wizard or (more MP?) will still able to break his ice

 

[Demon Hunter]

still crap though. he got destroyed by Natsu. his whip is also a joke. he is crap. don't know why are people always bringing him up, most likely because he has a Spriggan in his name. Wendy would mid - high diff him. he is arguably the weakest Spriggan. his weapons would at best pierce Lucy. someone who has big AoE damage(building level) would destroy him with ease. his hits are lower than Wolfheim's and Jura. in my opinion, Juliet and Heine are higher than him.

 

[Kiki]

Hmm.. my opinion on Jacob.. I don't know what to say. He survived Natsu's Demolition Fist, a move Natsu used to demolish Ikusatsunagi, a God. I don't know if Ikusatsunagi is real god or not. That, or maybe Natsu didn't intend to kill Jacob.

Jacob is still alive. He wasn't dead after Natsu's Demolition Fist landed on him. Had he been the protagonist and Natsu been the antagonist, Jacob would most likely have stood up and never given up. Jacob just surrendered, or maybe he was unconscious? CMIIW

 

[Axiomus]

It is hard to compare between jacob and invel, they have different type of magic.. Jacob indeed has powerful magic but he got oneshotted easily means other than his powerful magic he has real low durability which become his weakness. i think they have their own part. They are not main characters who have no weakness

agree and disagree with Jean Grey, Invel is more like Ajeel with different element and with different type of strategy. Different attitude to be precise.
And according to Invel, he wasnt really surprised to see natsu able to break his ice. So probably stronger wizard or (more MP?) will still able to break his ice

Jacob's durability should be no worse than Brandish's or Neinhart, or really any Spriggan whose magic doesn't somehow enhance their durability directly. Brandish was knocked out by Cana. Neinhart isn't a direct fighter either, and was pretty much oneshotted by GC - a move which wouldn't have oneshotted Midnight if it was before the 1 year timeskip. The move that Natsu used to take out Jacob is the same move he used to slay a god, which would have been stronger than the roar he used to oneshot Bluenote.

still crap though. he got destroyed by Natsu. his whip is also a joke. he is crap. don't know why are people always bringing him up, most likely because he has a Spriggan in his name. Wendy would mid - high diff him. he is arguably the weakest Spriggan. his weapons would at best would Lucy. someone who has big AoE damage(building level) would destroy him with ease. his hits strikes are lower than Wolfheim's and Jura. in my opinion, Juliet and Heine are higher than him.

Honestly, Wendy or Lucy wouldn't stand a chance against him. If Lucy could have soloed Jacob, she would have. Jacob's knife throw was probably just as lethal as future Rogue's knife throw, and a move like that would have killed Lucy if this was pre-timeskip. The same can be said for Juliet and Heine, tbh.

 

[Kantos]

tbh Jacob without his Transport is crap. his firepower is lower than Romeo's. he is a joke.

Invel is Ajeel 2.0 who instead of sand uses ice. he is not THAT strong. you can still use magic when you are frozen.

that doesn't mean Gray beating him is bad though, even if he is resistant to Invel' ice. not 100% resistant but still resistant.

Invel is not that strong? Where's the basis for this? You can use magic if you're Base Natsu level, and if you are frozen under casual ice.

He soloed the whole guild including Makarov(Someone who hold Acnologia back before) which is >>>>>>>> everything Invel did, Thanks to Horologium ofc, He was the main reason why Natsu and Lucy didn't fall to his hax magic as well. The way he got defeated wasn't good blame Hiro for that, Jacob did his job as a mid tier spriggan.

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Where is the feats for that ( Break frozen bodies )

That's akin to me saying Invel soloed all three of Juvia, Lucy and Natsu.

I'm not going to blame the author for Jacob's terrible durability.

Invel has feats of casually instant freezing three prominent characters, along with serious Base Natsu and his flames, and he did that casually. All the while blocking DeS Longsword the second time, producing high level of AOE that made an ice mage shiver.
Where's the feats for Jacob killing all the ft members?

Becuase if you're going to use Jacob killing FT members (when most of them were fodder), then I can easily counter with Invel having the feats to kill Natsu/Lucy and Juvia.

 

[Demon Hunter]

I disagree. Lucy cannot beat Jacob which is why I said his weapons can pierce her. CSK would destroy him. DF Wendy is fast and can roar him before he even uses a knife but that's a another debate in which I won't go any further.

and his knife is apparently a regular knife. Jacob is a joke. that's obvious. Wall, Ajeel, Invel can most likely beat base Natsu with mid diff. Jacob couldn't even beat base Natsu who was restricted in his base form not just FDKM. Jacob lacks in firepower. his punches and kicks are joke. his weapons at best can pierce Lucy but that's it.

lets agree to disagree.

Invel is not that strong? Where's the basis for this? You can use magic if you're Base Natsu level, and if you are frozen under casual ice.

where is the basis that he is strong??? Natsu literally melted his ice with a smile on his face. where is your proof that he can kill someone with that blood crap you are talking about??? Jellal, Laxus, Gildarts they are all Natsu' tier and above.

 

[Axiomus]

One more thing. As an assasin, Jacob's main magic should actually be his stealth and not his transport. Stealth would be the magic he uses when he wants to actually assassinate a target. It's able to escape Natsu's dragon slayer senses, and is capable of allowing Jacob to approach the guild without the magical radar picking him up.

Many people say Dimaria is the strongest Spriggan because nobody would even have the chance to defend against attacks. When you think about it, Jacob has pretty much the same advantage. He can easily use stealth and then stab someone with a sword. Yet for some reason Dimaria has the potential to kill August and Irene, and Jacob is the weakest Spriggan without his transport? Dimaria's sword is also just a regular sword.

 

[Shoutmon]

Many people say Dimaria is the strongest Spriggan because nobody would even have the chance to defend against attacks. When you think about it, Jacob has pretty much the same advantage. He can easily use stealth and then stab someone with a sword. Yet for some reason Dimaria has the potential to kill August and Irene, and Jacob is the weakest Spriggan without his transport? Dimaria's sword is also just a regular sword.

This is basically the exact same argument I made for him in the Jacob gauntlet thread. The guy can be pretty lethal if he combines his stealth with his durability and weapons, yet he's still seen as one of the fodder spriggans.

 

[Kantos]

where is the basis that he is strong??? Natsu literally melted his ice with a smile on his face. where is your proof that he can kill someone with that blood crap you are talking about??? Jellal, Laxus, Gildarts they are all Natsu' tier and above.

Based on what he has shown through feats, scaling and hype. Yeah, Natsu had all the time in the world to melt casual ice. Not sure what you mean by the bold, might want to calm down first.

 

[Demon Hunter]

Based on what he has shown through feats, scaling and hype. Yeah, Natsu had all the time in the world to melt casual ice. Not sure what you mean by the bold, might want to calm down first.

I'm calm. crap is my usual word when talking about not - so - strong Spriggans. you overrate him a bit too much.


you said that he can just break their bodies when frozen. that's a very bold statement because he would no diff Natsu, Gildarts, Laxus and Jellal. if we take your words seriously.