Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[**Silver**]

Just stop. Natsu couldn't react to multiple blast from Zerefs army while Gildarts dodged multiple lazers that travel at light speed, all while holding Gray.

how you can know Gildarts is moving Lightining speed ? and the lazer was lighting speed ? please tell me? is there any proof?

 

[Char]

Just stop. Natsu couldn't react to multiple blast from Zerefs army while Gildarts dodged multiple lazers that travel at light speed, all while holding Gray.

Naruto, Kaguya and Zetsu say hi.

Light speed, she says... LMAO Ridiculous.

Thx for making me laugh, you can always expect laughs from Wood made my day

 

[Takuan]

That was not Serena that was like 20% of Serena. And 20% Serena hurt Glidartz. Just look at his scratches. Read the chapter again please.

If 20% of Serena can hurt Glidartz, and 100% Serena can potentially beat Glidartz, I don't even want to know what the man you call butter knife durability can do to him.

@Takuan Yeah but Gajeel dying from this only shows a hax-ish technique from Bradman. I believe characters like Laxus or Gray would also be affected by that "deintegration" that Bradman uses as his last card; I don't necessarily believe it makes DF Gajeel weaker.

As for Gray, as much as I don't want to believe he'll use such a power without being triggered by any such sad event, I think we're naïve to think so; since it's rather clear Mashima's intention was for Gray and Natsu's portrayal to still be rather equal, in the sense that Gray could fight Natsu and still have a shot at winning. Whereas Natsu's feats are above Gray's (in the sense Natsu wasn't bloodlusted and two-shotted a spriggan, whereas Gray had to become bloodlusted to do so), they're still shown as equals. I believe he'll be able to use that power again at will... So he can already be considered a powerhouse on the level of Laxus...

Pre-ice lock Gray, even in DeS mode, is a tier below Invel indeed. You make a lot of sense actually.

I agree with this, Bradman's suicide technique would catch 99% of opponents off-guard, it isn't that Gajeel is weak it's because Bradman's hax is immense. As for how strong DF Gajeel is, it's hard to gauge, he absolutely stomped Bradman in DF but we don't know how good Bradman's durability is. Personally I think DF Gajeel is >= Laxus, but if he's > Laxus it's only by a tiny bit.

Guys i agree with you actually. Thanks =)
You're perfectly right. I shouldn't downgrade DF Gajeel just because he should have died with Bradman.
It's like saying Laxus = Tempesta because he almost died from MBPs.

 

[Coné]

Tl;dr Woodenstool is saying Gildarts is FTL, can dish out multiple mountain busting punches in an instant, can defeat all of the 12 including August and Irene and is the fourth strongest character in the series. Everyone else is either flat out denying it or ignoring her post.

@Woodenstool Gildarts isn't FTL because the lasers were magically created, thus it wasn't actual light. That's like saying Sting is FTL because he has light magic, magical light isn't FTL unless there's evidence of it.
Dishing out multiple mountain busting punches in an instant is irrelevant for in-verse, it's only relevant in cross-verse battles.
What feats or portrayal does he have to prove that he can defeat Irene or August? They were stated several times to be way above the other Spriggan, Gildarts' best feat so far was defeating Historia Serena, who's substantially weaker than actual Serena.

Also, why would DF Gajeel be stronger than Laxus? Bradman was a weaker opponent than Wahl, so there isn't a way to compare the two of them.

 

[Static]

@Woodenstool Gildarts isn't FTL because the lasers were magically created, thus it wasn't actual light. That's like saying Sting is FTL because he has light magic, magical light isn't FTL unless there's evidence of it.
Dishing out multiple mountain busting punches in an instant is irrelevant for in-verse, it's only relevant in cross-verse battles.
What feats or portrayal does he have to prove that he can defeat Irene or August? They were stated several times to be way above the other Spriggan, Gildarts' best feat so far was defeating Historia Serena, who's substantially weaker than actual Serena.

Also, why would DF Gajeel be stronger than Laxus? Bradman was a weaker opponent than Wahl, so there isn't a way to compare the two of them.

Not to mention, Gildarts stated that the actual Serena would've been on par with him.

 

[Coné]

Not to mention, Gildarts stated that the actual Serena would've been on par with him.

Yeah, and it was outright stated that Historias are much weaker than the actual versions. I don't get what's the deal with FTL Gildarts and him being capable of defeating higher-ranked Spriggan. It's absolutely just speculation.

 

[Hermit]

Also, why would DF Gajeel be stronger than Laxus? Bradman was a weaker opponent than Wahl, so there isn't a way to compare the two of them.

Agreed, I don't think any one other than Gildarts is above Laxus, that means even Natsu with FDKM, Gray with DeS and Gajeel with his Black Iron Mode...
Plus the difference between Bradman and Wahl shouldn't be that big in the first place

 

[Ebony Maw]

Also, why would DF Gajeel be stronger than Laxus? Bradman was a weaker opponent than Wahl, so there isn't a way to compare the two of them.

I think they're about equal, when I said it was possible for DF Gajeel to be slightly stronger than Laxus earlier I was giving him the benefit of the doubt. I'd put DF Gajeel (without benefit of the doubt) in between BDKM Natsu and Laxus (even that's hard to gauge though, now that base Natsu two-shot a Spriggan) . That said this is still hard to gauge, DF Gajeel stomped a Spriggan but we have no idea how durable Bradman is.

As for Wahl and Bradman, I see them as equals, Wahl has more power whereas Bradman has hax to make up for it.

 

[Takuan]

I don't know about that. Wahl was a good opponent for the dying Laxus. He was a mediocre opponent for the cured Laxus.

Overall we're talking about DF Gajeel (so i'm not taking base Gajeel into consideration) and Laxus (i'm not taking his illness and so 90% of the fight into consideration). Both Bradman and Wahl were no match for DF Gajeel and Laxus respectively.

However Bradman is intangible, making him a trickier opponent to deal with imo. Plus if we take all his curses into consideration, he's arguably a better opponent than Wahl.
Tbh the fact that Bradman can basically kill anyone who's not immuned to MBP's just by his mere presence, is already something that puts him higher than Wahl. While i agree they are relatively equal in terms of stats, Bradman has the upperhand thanks to MBPs, intangibility (and curses if we assume he uses them properly).

 

[Char]

IMO Bradman is superior to Wahl. I mean Bradman is too haxy. Wahl's hax is reduced to only Etherion, and we don't even know the gauge of his etherion. I mean, if he can actually bust a country, then he'd be the spriggan with most DC indeed; but I'm reluctant to believe he can bust a country tbh...

Wahl is but a machine, whose durability is questionable, I believe that he can be broken with relative ease as proven by a non-electrical spell from Laxus. It's not that I believe Bradman to be more durable, but his intangibility is part of the game. Hadn't Wahl been immune to lightning I think Laxus would've easy or mid diffed him, not extreme diffed him. I believe Glidartz can probably oneshot or twoshot Wahl, Natsu can probably do so too, bloodlusted Gray or DF Gajeel are no different. As for MBP, I believe the only one who can come relatively close, other than Gajeel, is Laxus (as he's probably resistant to MBP by now); and I don't know the extent to which his lightning can affect Bradman...

Bradman has MBP, so he can kill the likes of Natsu, Gray or Erza if they come close to him (logically speaking, as it killed a lot of people but not Levy, for example).
Bradman is intangible to all physical attacks, and maybe probably magical attacks too.
Bradman has 9 DG curses and thorn curse. While those are no big threat currently, tenchi kamei is still dangerous for them.
Bradman has macro, memento mori and probably alegria; but then again he's also got CiS...
Bradman can deintegrate you by means of his trump card

Whereas Wahl is just a very good cqc fighter and proficient in terms of weaponry. He might also have a dangerous weapon, etherion; but nothing much that can really pose a threat to the aforementioned characters.

 

[Hermit]

I think this Etherion cannon that Wahl had is being blown out of proportion a little, sure that's the same weapon that the Council possessed, but I think Wahl's would be akin to the Jupiter that Bisca used in the fight against Ajeel, that was less dangerous and had a smaller AOE than the one that Phantom Lord possessed in the beginning of the series..
I think the Etherion Wahl was going to use should be slightly stronger than the Anti Matter cannon that he used to destroy Christina, the difference in power shouldn't be that great

 

[Ebony Maw]

IMO Bradman is superior to Wahl. I mean Bradman is too haxy. Wahl's hax is reduced to only Etherion, and we don't even know the gauge of his etherion. I mean, if he can actually bust a country, then he'd be the spriggan with most DC indeed; but I'm reluctant to believe he can bust a country tbh...

Wahl is but a machine, whose durability is questionable, I believe that he can be broken with relative ease as proven by a non-electrical spell from Laxus. It's not that I believe Bradman to be more durable, but his intangibility is part of the game. Hadn't Wahl been immune to lightning I think Laxus would've easy or mid diffed him, not extreme diffed him. I believe Glidartz can probably oneshot or twoshot Wahl, Natsu can probably do so too, bloodlusted Gray or DF Gajeel are no different. As for MBP, I believe the only one who can come relatively close, other than Gajeel, is Laxus (as he's probably resistant to MBP by now); and I don't know the extent to which his lightning can affect Bradman...

Bradman has MBP, so he can kill the likes of Natsu, Gray or Erza if they come close to him (logically speaking, as it killed a lot of people but not Levy, for example).
Bradman is intangible to all physical attacks, and maybe probably magical attacks too.
Bradman has 9 DG curses and thorn curse. While those are no big threat currently, tenchi kamei is still dangerous for them.
Bradman has macro, memento mori and probably alegria; but then again he's also got CiS...
Bradman can deintegrate you by means of his trump card

Whereas Wahl is just a very good cqc fighter and proficient in terms of weaponry. He might also have a dangerous weapon, etherion; but nothing much that can really pose a threat to the aforementioned characters.

I'll just add that Bradman can absorb spells souls via Absorption curse if he wants to, Enhance himself throughout a fight and strip peoples senses away from them. All in all, Bradman is hax AF with a beast defense.

 

[Coné]

I think they're about equal, when I said it was possible for DF Gajeel to be slightly stronger than Laxus earlier I was giving him the benefit of the doubt. I'd put DF Gajeel (without benefit of the doubt) in between BDKM Natsu and Laxus (even that's hard to gauge though, now that base Natsu two-shot a Spriggan) . That said this is still hard to gauge, DF Gajeel stomped a Spriggan but we have no idea how durable Bradman is.

As for Wahl and Bradman, I see them as equals, Wahl has more power whereas Bradman has hax to make up for it.

I would actually put BDKM Natsu above Laxus, but that's a personal opinion.

DF Gajeel had a way to resist Bradman's hax, whereas there isn't a way to oppose raw power (Wahl) except using raw power, which is what's used for power rankings. Bradman was weaker than Wahl in terms of raw power, but DF Gajeel dealt with him more easily than Laxus did. So yeah, Laxus and DF Gajeel are probably on the same power level, with the edge going for Laxus, for having better portrayal, but that's it.

 

[Ebony Maw]

I would actually put BDKM Natsu above Laxus, but that's a personal opinion.

DF Gajeel had a way to resist Bradman's hax, whereas there isn't a way to oppose raw power (Wahl) except using raw power, which is what's used for power rankings. Bradman was weaker than Wahl in terms of raw power, but DF Gajeel dealt with him more easily than Laxus did. So yeah, Laxus and DF Gajeel are probably on the same power level, with the edge going for Laxus, for having better portrayal, but that's it.

Shouldn't that rank Bradman higher though? If you can't resist his hax (only a select few can counter the MBP's right now) you're basically dead. In comparison Wahl can be overpowered (with difficulty) by a greater amount of people than the amount of people who can resist Bradman's hax.

I agree with the rest of your post though (aside from BDKM Natsu > Laxus).

 

[Loke]

Wahl>Bradman imo. The latter underperformed.

 

[Demon Hunter]

Bloodman > Wall - when facing human mages because of MBP and Bloodman's intangibility which makes Bloodman more deadlier than Wall
Wall > Bloodman - Weakness magic to counter Bloodman, Anti - MBP gun and Etherion Cannon which is(should)be much stronger than Super Long Distance Anti-Material Magic Cannon

keep in mind that Red Lightning was super effective against Wall. that is why he was killed.

 

[Takuan]

Wahl>Bradman imo. The latter underperformed.

Huh. I like Wahl, his design is cool and all, but the second Laxus stopped being extremely diminished, Wahl got one shot.
You're saying Bradman underperformed, well what about Wahl then...
I didn't even like Bradman's fight, and i liked Wahl's fight. But let's be honest, the only reason Wahl was fighting to begin with, is that Laxus was close to dieing (and shouldn't even be alive or standing, as stated by Wahl himself). Wahl performed against that Laxus for this sole reason, but the second Laxus got better, Wahl got stomped.

 

[Ebony Maw]

Wahl>Bradman imo. The latter underperformed.

I don't really get how Bradman under performed, he pretty much easy-diffed Gajeel casually.

I can see an argument that Wahl > Bradman though, mainly due to the anti-MBP gun. Against human mages I'd give Bradman the edge though.

 

[Loke]

Huh. I like Wahl, his design is cool and all, but the second Laxus stopped being extremely diminished, Wahl got one shot.
You're saying Bradman underperformed, well what about Wahl then...
I didn't even like Bradman's fight, and i liked Wahl's fight. But let's be honest, the only reason Wahl was fighting to begin with, is that Laxus was close to dieing (and shouldn't even be alive or standing, as stated by Wahl himself). Wahl performed against that Laxus for this sole reason, but the second Laxus got better, Wahl got stomped.

Laxus is a beast so I'm not seeing your point. One thing is for sure though, Levy wouldn't come out of a scuffle with Wahl with enough energy to straddle her man. For all the hax he has and all the curses he spammed he sure didn't accomplish much.

 

[Static]

keep in mind that Red Lightning was super effective against Wall. that is why he was killed.

This SO MUCH! I have seen people forgetting about this most of the time.

Laxus is a beast so I'm not seeing your point. One thing is for sure though, Levy wouldn't come out of a scuffle with Wahl with enough energy to straddle her man. For all the hax he has and all the curses he spammed he sure didn't accomplish much.

Don't forget plot armor was involved in Bloodman's fight :/.