Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[sharkai]

Wahl himself said that Laxus shouldn't even be standing with MBP infesting his body. You can argue how much that actually affected his performance, but it should've hindered him no doubt. Lightning disadvantage wasn't the only odd against him in that fight.

Sure but that shouldnt put him along with natsu who vaporised zeref and gildarts who held his own against one of the strongest springgan.

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laxus had the MBP in him while gildartz was perfectly fine. laxus would perform better if healthy.

dont get me wrong natsu and gildartz are stronger than laxus. (jellal and laxus are in the same level imo) laxus is definitely one of the strongest in the ishgar side. he is easily place to part of the GOI

That what i mean
He shouldnt be placed with likes of person who vaporised zeref or those who went toe to toe with the strongest springgans.
So he should be considered below natsu and gildarts
Jellal only shown to be fast. Laxus might be above him.

I wont put him on goi though. We have gray who manhandled a springgan in base and held his own aginst partial end. We have gajeel. But i dont how strong he is

Goi would be (not ordered)
Natsu (for vaporising zeref)
Gray (for manhandling a mid tier springgan in base)
Gildart and erza (for holding their own against the strongest springgans)

Laxus is strong but he hasnt shown anything near what the top characters have shown. His disadvantage wasnt any more than gajeel being unable to touch bradman intangible body. And his win was with an ass pull just like gajeel.

 

[Demon Hunter]

Laxus was heavily nerfed. you cannot tell his full healty power.

My thoughts exactly

Why the hell did Mashima bother to hype Mira to have eaten all of Tartaros if he is gonna do nothing about it? I mean beating Jacob in base Satan Soul? Spending half the fight in human form? While Jacob keeps trying not to look at her tits? Could not have made that fight more stupid if he tried. He shouldve let Gajeel kill some other spriggan and let Mira kill Bradman, then we couldve seen some ultimate demon showdown. Or at the very least drawn that final punch against Jacob with Mira in Seilah's Etherious form, would that be so damn hard?

Depresses me knowing she's almost certainly not getting another chance to show off some Tartaros souls.

if this is the final arc then we should say good bye to her.

she has one of the coolest magic in the series.

 

[sharkai]

Laxus was heavily nerfed. you cannot tell his full healty power.


if this is the final arc then we should say good bye to her.

she has one of the coolest magic in the series.

Then we should wait till full power laxus shows something
Just like we waited for natsu df

 

[Demon Hunter]

Then we should wait till full power laxus shows something
Just like we waited for natsu df

we will never found out because its ending and MC are getting wanked.

so no, we won't see anything.

 

[sharkai]

we will never found out because its ending and MC are getting wanked.

so no, we won't see anything.

Ok
But we cant give feats out of nowhere.

There are characters who have better performance than laxus. Like gray
We cant just say full healthy laxus will be stronger than him.

 

[Demon Hunter]

Gray is no doubt close to Laxus but above him???

nah unless you wank up partial END.

 

[LaGOAT]

Sure but that shouldnt put him along with natsu who vaporised zeref and gildarts who held his own against one of the strongest springgan.

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That what i mean
He shouldnt be placed with likes of person who vaporised zeref or those who went toe to toe with the strongest springgans.
So he should be considered below natsu and gildarts
Jellal only shown to be fast. Laxus might be above him.

I wont put him on goi though. We have gray who manhandled a springgan in base and held his own aginst partial end. We have gajeel. But i dont how strong he is

Goi would be (not ordered)
Natsu (for vaporising zeref)
Gray (for manhandling a mid tier springgan in base)
Gildart and erza (for holding their own against the strongest springgans)

Laxus is strong but he hasnt shown anything near what the top characters have shown. His disadvantage wasnt any more than gajeel being unable to touch bradman intangible body. And his win was with an ass pull just like gajeel.

he didnt vaporized zeref and its debatable if he can to base zeref. since zeref said df wouldnt kill him. gildartz is the only exception because he actually held his own.

nerfed laxus almost causally oneshot a spriggan(same one that gray had to use a des name spell to attack him also erza couldnt beat by herself) and was going toe to toe with another spriggan who he was at a disadvantage.

laxus being below gildartz and natsu doesnt mean he shouldnt be on the GOI. DF natsu in fact is the one that i could say that he is a tier above the rest. the gap between laxus and gildartz isnt that huge as u think it is. dont underrestmating jellal because he lost to august (we dont know how long that fight lasted)

its common sense that healthy laxus>nerfed laxus so power-scaling is use here. again laxus is easily top tier isghar mage he definitely going be in this list

 

[sharkai]

Gray is no doubt close to Laxus but above him???

nah unless you wank up partial END.

On what account is laxus above gray.
Base gray defeated invel
Base gray broke invel strongest defence

Ds gray would be above that

Pof laxus only can be as strong as Base gray. Or maybe slightly stronger

What to do you mean wank partial end
Partial end one shot a springgan something laxus never done and also put fear in her.
You cant just ignore feats

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he didnt vaporized zeref and its debatable if he can to base zeref. since zeref said df wouldnt kill him. gildartz is the only exception because he actually held his own.

nerfed laxus almost causally oneshot a spriggan(same one that gray had to use a des name spell to attack him also erza couldnt beat by herself) and was going toe to toe with another spriggan who he was at a disadvantage.

laxus being below gildartz and natsu doesnt mean he shouldnt be on the GOI. DF natsu in fact is the one that i could say that he is a tier above the rest. the gap between laxus and gildartz isnt that huge as u think it is. dont underrestmating jellal because he lost to august (we dont know how long that fight lasted)

its common sense that healthy laxus>nerfed laxus so power-scaling is use here. again laxus is easily top tier isghar mage he definitely going be in this list

That would be because he was immortal
Not because fh zeref is less durable than normal zeref

laxus never one shot any springgan. Erza only had problem against ajeel because he was a bad matchup for her. Her attack went throw ajeel attack without effecting sand world. And she couldnt use her eyes. Later both gray and erza will fight someone who could one shot wahl (partial end and irene)

But its not healthy laxus > nerfed laxus
You are trying to say
Healthy laxus > pof laxus
Which will never happen. Pof laxus defeated wahl. Not nerfed laxus.
He wont be on the list because he has no feats to be.
Natsu took on zeref
Erza and gildarts took on the strongest springgan
Base gray and laxus took on a mid tier springgan. And base gray still have ds form

 

[LaGOAT]

On what account is laxus above gray.
Base gray defeated invel
Base gray broke invel strongest defence

Ds gray would be above that

Pof laxus only can be as strong as Base gray. Or maybe slightly stronger

What to do you mean wank partial end
Partial end one shot a springgan something laxus never done and also put fear in her.
You cant just ignore feats

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That would be because he was immortal
Not because fh zeref is less durable than normal zeref

laxus never one shot any springgan. Erza only had problem against ajeel because he was a bad matchup for her. Her attack went throw ajeel attack without effecting sand world. And she couldnt use her eyes. Later both gray and erza will fight someone who could one shot wahl (partial end and irene)

But its not healthy laxus > nerfed laxus
You are trying to say
Healthy laxus > pof laxus
Which will never happen. Pof laxus defeated wahl. Not nerfed laxus.
He wont be on the list because he has no feats to be.
Natsu took on zeref
Erza and gildarts took on the strongest springgan
Base gray and laxus took on a mid tier springgan. And base gray still have ds form

reread my post no need to say the same thing twice. lol erza had a bad matchup OOK.... erza cant use her eyes? what does that even mean?
ur assuming that df natsu would have beaten base zeref. when clearly said zeref that it couldnt
he was nerfed he had the MBP in him go reread the chapter in case u forgotten.
taking on the strongest opponent doesnt mean ur stronger because they can get no diff like jellal but again u dont know how that fight lasted. and by ur logic its means wendy>gray and DF natsu because she also took on irene and ur the same person that said irene>zeref.

 

[Kay3795]

Laxus suffered debilitating illness, but before the symptoms really kicked in against him during his battle with Wall, they were relatively equals.

Wall erased said illness during the battle, and Laxus received a friendship power-up to defeat Wall.

That's not an astonishing demonstration of superiority. As far as feats are concerned, Gray has shown himself to be on his level at least. Erza has shown herself to be superior (obviously). Jellal is tricky because he also had circumstances against him but he looked kinda impressive Vs Acno. Gildarts is also probably stronger. Natsu is another obvious case.

Laxus needs an opportunity to step up because his mates are showing him up. Maybe he can fight Acno with red lightning for a bit and go crazy.

 

[LaGOAT]

Laxus suffered debilitating illness, but before the symptoms really kicked in against him during his battle with Wall, they were relatively equals.

Wall erased said illness during the battle, and Laxus received a friendship power-up to defeat Wall.

That's not an astonishing demonstration of superiority. As far as feats are concerned, Gray has shown himself to be on his level at least. Erza has shown herself to be superior (obviously). Jellal is tricky because he also had circumstances against him but he looked kinda impressive Vs Acno. Gildarts is also probably stronger. Natsu is another obvious case.

Laxus needs an opportunity to step up because his mates are showing him up. Maybe he can fight Acno with red lightning for a bit and go crazy.

i dont know how that show superiority is cana now stronger than laxus too because she fought august?

 

[Kay3795]

i dont know how that show superiority is cana now stronger than laxus too because she fought august?

This doesn't work because half of the ones I mentioned (especially Natsu and Erza) actually have feats which trump Laxus' own. Cena doesn't, plus was favoured by circumstances when fighting August.

 

[Saigon]

What feats did erza show that are above Laxus? as far as im concerned she used the same ones she always does.
And concerning her taking on "one of the strongest spriggan" She would've lost if:
1. Wendy wasnt there to help her (AKA enhance her sword, without wendy, erza would've been dead
2. Irene decided to commit suicide, so erza didnt beat her, And we can actually point out that irene's intentions were never to kill erza in the first place because she felt bad at shitty of a mother she was.
3. irene was toying with her for most of the fight, and just like the azuma fight she magically won

And what do you guys mean base gray? Didnt he use that demon ice magic or whatever to beat Invel?
And going on you guys logic, Wendy must be above Laxus cuz she also fought a strong spriggan? (Irene)
And just a week ago or even more, you guys were putting Laxus above all these characters what is this sudden change?

 

[LaGOAT]

This doesn't work because half of the ones I mentioned (especially Natsu and Erza) actually have feats which trump Laxus' own. Cena doesn't, plus was favoured by circumstances when fighting August.

wendy was there to save her behind or else she would been blitz/no diff u dont think circumstances didnt favor erza too??

 

[Seven777]

Laxus oneshot Wahl and wouldve oneshot Azir.
An enemy has yet to push Laxus to his limits. The only thing thats given Laxus trouble this arc is the MBPs that were eating away at his insides and his magic. Wahl, even with his lightning immunity, was no threat to Laxus before MBPs kicked in, and even when they did kick in Laxus was still able to draw his runes while simultaneously fighting him.
The only reason Wahl lasted as long as he did is because Laxus needed him alive, as soon as Wahl's usefulness ran out, Laxus killed him with one blow.

 

[sharkai]

reread my post no need to say the same thing twice. lol erza had a bad matchup OOK.... erza cant use her eyes? what does that even mean?
ur assuming that df natsu would have beaten base zeref. when clearly said zeref that it couldnt
he was nerfed he had the MBP in him go reread the chapter in case u forgotten.
taking on a strongest opponent doesnt mean ur stronger because they can get no diff like jellal but again u dont know how that fight lasted. and by ur logic its means wendy>gray and DF natsu because she also took on irene and ur the same person that said irene>zeref.

It means the same as laxus bad matchup. Erza cant use her eyes is as bad as laxus cant use his magic.

No i am assuming df natsu can do the same to zeref with or without fh.

No it doesn't mean that. Wendy didnt fight irene head on. She basically faught like cana. Gildart and erza faught similarly

No i never said irene > zeref. You forced the nonsense even though zeref had no good feat. Feat > no feat

Why do people act like laxus is the first person to ever get nerfed. Its not like something like this happens nearly every arc. When a good guy at serious disadvantaged. Gajeel also had to face mbp along with a body he couldnt touch. Remember broken erza destroying dues sema, healthy erza couldnt destroy irene stick.. Remember sensless erza beating koyoka. Laxus just pulled an erza. That is all


Pof is the only reason laxus won. Same for base gray. Same for how erza destroyed dues sema.

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Laxus oneshot Wahl and wouldve oneshot Azir.
An enemy has yet to push Laxus to his limits. The only thing thats given Laxus trouble this arc is the MBPs that were eating away at his insides and his magic. Wahl, even with his lightning immunity, was no threat to Laxus before MBPs kicked in, and even when they did kick in Laxus was still able to draw his runes while simultaneously fighting him.
The only reason Wahl lasted as long as he did is because Laxus needed him alive, as soon as Wahl's usefulness ran out, Laxus killed him with one blow.

That is some serious laxus wank.
You are gonna ignore yuri red lightening i guess.

Laxus has already been pushed to the limit. That was why he used pof in the end.

 

[LaGOAT]

Laxus oneshot Wahl and wouldve oneshot Azir.
An enemy has yet to push Laxus to his limits. The only thing thats given Laxus trouble this arc is the MBPs that were eating away at his insides and his magic. Wahl, even with his lightning immunity, was no threat to Laxus before MBPs kicked in, and even when they did kick in Laxus was still able to draw his runes while simultaneously fighting him.
The only reason Wahl lasted as long as he did is because Laxus needed him alive, as soon as Wahl's usefulness ran out, Laxus killed him with one blow.

thank u my brother hiro dont know how to use laxus cause he too strong so he has to nerf him for his opponents to stand a chance (he said in an interview) hence why he isnt in every arc like erza and natsu. but the only time he was push to his "limits" was jura in the GMG

 

[sharkai]

wendy was there to save her behind or else she would been blitz/no diff u dont think circumstances didnt favor erza too??

Same would have happened to laxus. He would have lasted as long as erza did.
Same would have happened to gikdart if cana didnt help him.

 

[Saigon]

Same would have happened to laxus. He would have lasted as long as erza did.
Same would have happened to gikdart if cana didnt help him.

Exactly our point, they're using the fact that they fought these strong spriggans as a means to prove that erza//gildartz are way above laxus, when in reality they couldn't take them alone// at all and needed to be saved at the end

 

[sharkai]

What feats did erza show that are above Laxus? as far as im concerned she used the same ones she always does.
And concerning her taking on "one of the strongest spriggan" She would've lost if:
1. Wendy wasnt there to help her (AKA enhance her sword, without wendy, erza would've been dead
2. Irene decided to commit suicide, so erza didnt beat her, And we can actually point out that irene's intentions were never to kill erza in the first place because she felt bad at shitty of a mother she was.
3. irene was toying with her for most of the fight, and just like the azuma fight she magically won

And what do you guys mean base gray? Didnt he use that demon ice magic or whatever to beat Invel?
And going on you guys logic, Wendy must be above Laxus cuz she also fought a strong spriggan? (Irene)
And just a week ago or even more, you guys were putting Laxus above all these characters what is this sudden change?

Erza has alot of things above laxus.
Endurance and stemina are couple of levels above laxus.
Just look at how much she faught this arc. And how much laxus faught.

She also hits harder than him.
Pof Erza deus sema destrying slash >> pof laxus red lightening

She also reacted great to irene nuke span. Making her probably as fast if not faster than laxus.

Gray didnt have marking when he took down invel. That is base gray.

Laxus always get hyped. He just gets alot of benefit of doubts above everyone else.