Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[LaGOAT]

Base Natsu doesn't exist in Fairy Tail.

go reread the chapters when natsu clearly saids FDKM it means he is in that mode. otherwise he is in base

 

[Axiomus]

Natsu is using FDK spells against Zeref. The power in those attacks would be closer to FDK mode than base, even if Natsu isn't in the mode.

Acnologia
Zeref
August/Irene
Natsu/Jellal/Gildarts/Laxus
Erza/Gray/Gajeel/Sting
Larcade
Neinhart
Dimaria/Brandish
God Serena/Invel/Ajeel/Wall/Bloodman/Jacob/Chelia/Mirajane

 

[LaGOAT]

Natsu is using FDK spells against Zeref. The power in those attacks would be closer to FDK mode than base, even if Natsu isn't in the mode.

Acnologia
Zeref
August/Irene
Natsu/Jellal/Gildarts/Laxus
Erza/Gray/Gajeel/Sting
Larcade
Neinhart
Dimaria/Brandish
God Serena/Invel/Ajeel/Wall/Bloodman/Jacob/Chelia/Mirajane

Doesn't matter he is in base mode. Anyways natsu>zeref and august and Irene at the point base natsu is soloing zeref right now and zeref is false hype he is below Irene and august in my eyes. Lol god serena is above nienhart and randi and brandish. Nienhart is below any1 u just mention idk y u think nienhart is that powerful

 

[**Silver**]

august>FH zeref at this point base natsu no diff any1 in the verse right now

all hail August the strongest character and the only character who has not lost his hype...

August stomped Jellal without any effort and almost defeated Gildarts until stupid plot-progression kicked in...

August suicide was probably the best thing could happen, serioysly this is not even joke considering how patheric Zeref and acnologia has become

 

[Arjuna]

all hail August the strongest character and the only character who has not lost his hype...

August stomped Jellal without any effort and almost defeated Gildarts until stupid plot-progression kicked in...

August suicide was probably the best thing could happen, serioysly this is not even joke considering how patheric Zeref and acnologia has become

See @upsurge Silver is downgrading even Acnologia now.

Spoiler: Chapter 535

As a matter of fact Natsu haven't done any significant damage to Zeref as of now.Moreover it is not like that FH Zeref can't be hurt,we have seen how his entire body was blown away by DF Natsu.And let us not forget he is powered by unlimited magic power,which is probably unparalled even by Acnologia.But until now they only fought physical battles.And we shouldn't downgrade a character if they face Natsu.We are at the end of the series and Natsu is the MC.Pit DF Natsu against Acnologia and see how Acnologia fares too.

 

[x777]

go reread the chapters when natsu clearly saids FDKM it means he is in that mode. otherwise he is in base

Natsu only has 2 modes FDKM and Dragon Force. FDKM is his defaul mode. Manga always points when he enters DF. Maybe he still has lightnig that would be 3rd mode. So you could say that base=FDKM. He just uses different amount of power when it is required. The attacks themself have the naming. Notice that he doent have any attack that starts with Dragon Force.

 

[**Silver**]

See @upsurge Silver is downgrading even Acnologia now.

Spoiler: Chapter 535

As a matter of fact Natsu haven't done any significant damage to Zeref as of now.Moreover it is not like that FH Zeref can't be hurt,we have seen how his entire body was blown away by DF Natsu.And let us not forget he is powered by unlimited magic power,which is probably unparalled even by Acnologia.And we shouldn't downgrade a character if they face Natsu.We are at the end of the series and Natsu is the MC.Pit DF Natsu against Acnologia and see how Acnologia fares too.

Jellal is not even Dragon Slayer still he is pressuring Acnologia.... so now i am downgrading acnologia? you can only blame Mashima

August defeated Jellal+ Cs fair and square and without any injuries, so yes considering August is the strongest is not that far fetched..

Natsu has been overpowering his brother all this time....

August Heat Pillar and Irene was needed to save Natsu and his companions....


there is no question that August is the most impressive villain and character

 

[Arjuna]

Jellal is not even Dragon Slayer still he is pressuring Acnologia.... so now i am downgrading acnologia? you can only blame Mashima

August defeated Jellal+ Cs fair and square and without any injuries, so yes considering August is the strongest is not that far fetched..

Natsu has been overpowering his brother all this time....

August Heat Pillar and Irene was needed to save Natsu and his companions....


there is no question that August is the most impressive villain and character

Impressive villain no doubt but don't forget August nullified and copied CS's very magics against them.And i can even point August's shortcomings too.When he was hit by Cana's Cards he uttered exclamations of pain.

And Jellal didn't do any damage to Acnologia at all.He just pushed him,in Tenrou Arc Makarov managed to hold back Dragon Acnologia for sometime.You can say your arguments if he had really damaged Acnologia,but it didn't happen,plot protection prevented him from being killing.


And Natsu becoming stronger than Zeref and defeating him,well it was foreshadowed since Tenrou Arc so it shouldn't surprise you.

 

[Demon Hunter]

I completely agree with @Laxus pwns natsu

base Natsu > anyone in the verse.

it happened guys.

I don't know why are people still going about Gildarts and Laxus being above Natsu at this point.

its over.

give up.

base Natsu is the strongest character in FT verse.

 

[**Silver**]

I completely agree with @Laxus pwns natsu

base Natsu > anyone in the verse.

it happened guys.

I don't know why are people still going about Gildarts and Laxus being above Natsu at this point.

its over.

give up.

base Natsu is the strongest character in FT verse.

Jean are you sick or something ??? admitting that Natsu is strongest character

but yeah its true

 

[Pirate Queen]

Damn it took a while but people are coming around like they didnt see this coming. Main character in shounen always get massively outrageous power scales. It is never changing. If you thought Fairy Tail would be different (DJ Kahled) *Ya just played ya'self

Natsu for the win

 

[Seven777]

You're missing my point. MBP's destroying Ethernano could've but has shown to not even be the case when it comes to Gajeel since he changed the property of his magic to match to Bloodman's curse. You can say it's sort of like Gajeel changed his Magic Power to Curse Power which therefore powered him up due to it also contain traces of iron with whatever powers up those with Curse Power which is how that even came about that makes it similar (not exactly like but similar) to Wendy having DF by consuming the air that contained Ethernano which powered her up. But in Gajeel's case, the very fact MBP's is what powered him up to what is assumed to be DF therefore should be considered an external source for just him only though and nobody else. Not to mention there's no telling that he can activate DF at will since it's shown that using a source doesn't let them have it permanently.

Invel has shown to take on some of Gray's attacks and continue on with his attacks. Bloodman hasn't due to his body being made of MBP that he really doesn't feel anything which isn't necessary for him to possess any durability (me speaking in his perspective) until what Gajeel had done. It's like any Mage can put harm to him for as long as the property of their magic matches his Curse to which he never took the attacks on to continue on with his like Invel did.

No, i get the point, i just disagree.
Sure, maybe eating MBPs changed Gajeel's magic power to curse power, but there is no reason that curse power would be boosted beyond his magic power, in fact there is many reasons for the opposite to be true.

So like i said, MBPs are not what powered Dragon Force imo, they were just the means through which he changed his attribute to match Bloodmans, and that was the sole purpose behind eating them, Gajeel wasnt eating them for strength.

So what if Invel was shown to tank some of Gray's attacks? What does that prove? That Invel can tank some of Gray's attacks but not others?
Bloodman still needs durability, the fact that he is invulnerable to physical attacks doesnt mean anything, he is still vulnerable to pure magic attacks like Rogue's Shadow, and needs durability to tank attacks from them just like any other spriggan. Being immune to one type of attack is hardly cause for neglecting durability entirely.

 

[Axiomus]

I definitely feel like some people set themselves up for disappointment. Coming into this arc, I held the opinion that Natsu was going to be defeating most of the Spriggan 12 with one or two FDK spells, and that he would be strong enough to give Zeref a decent fight. This really isn't all that surprising considering what he did to Bluenote, who would be considered a top tier before the timeskip, and a god of war. It turned out that the manga wasn't really that far off from this prediction. For some odd reason, some people held the opinion that Natsu was a fodder, and would constantly say he gets stomped by any of the Spriggan 12. I suspect this was because they wanted their favourite character to outshine Natsu. The whole reason for the 1 year timeskip was so that Natsu could get stronger, and the Alvarez Arc is basically Natsu's arc. It's really no surprise that Natsu isn't getting stomped in the arc he's supposed to shine in.

As it stands, Natsu isn't the strongest in the series. Acnologia and Zeref are above him. August, and Irene are probably stronger than him, though Natsu can probably hang in there as well as Gildarts did. That's really where I have Natsu. He's on the same level as Jellal or Gildarts, in that he can hang with a top tier without getting destroyed. Zeref is still stronger than Natsu right now. Look at the wounds Zeref is inflicting on Natsu versus what Natsu did to Zeref. Zeref is giving Natsu cuts whilst Natsu is making minor scratches on his face. Also keep in mind that while Fairy Heart might have unlimited magical power, Zeref's attacks themselves don't all have infinite power behind them. As far as I am concerned, Zeref's hand swipes are still weaker than some of August or Irene's nukes and dragon Irene's claw swipes. Zeref's body isn't immune to damage either. DF Natsu was able to erase his body, but Zeref reversed time and restored his body. Zeref hasn't lost the ability to do this. He simply didn't need to because Natsu's punches only left very minor scratches on his face.

 

[CaptainTorch]

I definitely feel like some people set themselves up for disappointment. Coming into this arc, I held the opinion that Natsu was going to be defeating most of the Spriggan 12 with one or two FDK spells, and that he would be strong enough to give Zeref a decent fight. This really isn't all that surprising considering what he did to Bluenote, who would be considered a top tier before the timeskip, and a god of war. For some odd reason, some people held the opinion that Natsu was a fodder, and would constantly say he gets stomped by any of the Spriggan 12. I suspect this was because they wanted their favourite character to outshine Natsu. The whole reason for the 1 year timeskip was so that Natsu could get stronger, and the Alvarez Arc is basically Natsu's arc. It's really no surprise that Natsu isn't getting stomped in the arc he's supposed to shine in.

As it stands, Natsu isn't the strongest in the series. Acnologia and Zeref are above him. August and Irene are probably stronger than him, though Natsu can probably hang in there as well as Gildarts did. That's really where I have Natsu. He's on the same level as Jellal or Gildarts, in that he can hang with a top tier without getting destroyed. Zeref is still stronger than Natsu right now. Look at the wounds Zeref is inflicting on Natsu versus what Natsu did to Zeref. Zeref is giving Natsu cuts whilst Natsu is making minor scratches on his face. Also keep in mind that while Fairy Heart might have unlimited magical power, Zeref's attacks themselves don't all have infinite power behind them. As far as I am concerned, Zeref's hand swipes are still weaker than some of August or Irene's nukes and dragon Irene's claw swipes. Zeref's body isn't immune to damage either. DF Natsu was able to erase his body, but Zeref reversed time and restored his body. Zeref hasn't lost the ability to do this. He simply didn't need to because Natsu's punches only left very minor scratches on his face.

Thank you! I think people here started jumping to conlusion way too quick. Natsu and Zeref FH didn't even fight properly yet, and people already rant about how strong Natsu is, and how weak Zeref is :/

 

[Arjuna]

Natsu's powerlevel will depend upon if he manages to defeat FH Zeref all alone.If he defeats him,then the argument closes.

If we see pattern of Hiro Mashima he made Elie the strongest,so it's natural either Natsu or Lucy will be the strongest at the end of the Series.

 

[Star Frost]

No, i get the point, i just disagree.
Sure, maybe eating MBPs changed Gajeel's magic power to curse power, but there is no reason that curse power would be boosted beyond his magic power, in fact there is many reasons for the opposite to be true.

So like i said, MBPs are not what powered Dragon Force imo, they were just the means through which he changed his attribute to match Bloodmans, and that was the sole purpose behind eating them, Gajeel wasnt eating them for strength.

So what if Invel was shown to tank some of Gray's attacks? What does that prove? That Invel can tank some of Gray's attacks but not others?
Bloodman still needs durability, the fact that he is invulnerable to physical attacks doesnt mean anything, he is still vulnerable to pure magic attacks like Rogue's Shadow, and needs durability to tank attacks from them just like any other spriggan. Being immune to one type of attack is hardly cause for neglecting durability entirely.

Sure there's a reason. It has been assumed that's DF right? If that's DF then his strength has indeed boosted to obtain that. But if that's the case of what you're saying is true, then that must show that's not DF he used and shouldn't be a reason to think he can activate his at will when he done confirmed he can't.

By others meaning those whose attacks stronger than Gray's. Well I guess you got a point about Bloodman's durability.

 

[**Silver**]

Thank you! I think people here started jumping to conlusion way too quick. Natsu and Zeref FH didn't even fight properly yet, and people already rant about how strong Natsu is, and how weak Zeref is :/

lol Natsu was below Jura level Tartaros arc.... Natsu jumped what 5 tiers ahead

i think Natsus power is justified atleast Natsu can one-shot Gildarts tier opponents with no effort...

 

[Pirate Queen]

People still saying Natsu is Gildartz/Laxus level

Holding onto hope as long as they can before the manga ends

 

[Raven]

I definitely feel like some people set themselves up for disappointment. Coming into this arc, I held the opinion that Natsu was going to be defeating most of the Spriggan 12 with one or two FDK spells, and that he would be strong enough to give Zeref a decent fight. This really isn't all that surprising considering what he did to Bluenote, who would be considered a top tier before the timeskip, and a god of war. It turned out that the manga wasn't really that far off from this prediction. For some odd reason, some people held the opinion that Natsu was a fodder, and would constantly say he gets stomped by any of the Spriggan 12. I suspect this was because they wanted their favourite character to outshine Natsu. The whole reason for the 1 year timeskip was so that Natsu could get stronger, and the Alvarez Arc is basically Natsu's arc. It's really no surprise that Natsu isn't getting stomped in the arc he's supposed to shine in.

As it stands, Natsu isn't the strongest in the series. Acnologia and Zeref are above him. August, and Irene are probably stronger than him, though Natsu can probably hang in there as well as Gildarts did. That's really where I have Natsu. He's on the same level as Jellal or Gildarts, in that he can hang with a top tier without getting destroyed. Zeref is still stronger than Natsu right now. Look at the wounds Zeref is inflicting on Natsu versus what Natsu did to Zeref. Zeref is giving Natsu cuts whilst Natsu is making minor scratches on his face. Also keep in mind that while Fairy Heart might have unlimited magical power, Zeref's attacks themselves don't all have infinite power behind them. As far as I am concerned, Zeref's hand swipes are still weaker than some of August or Irene's nukes and dragon Irene's claw swipes. Zeref's body isn't immune to damage either. DF Natsu was able to erase his body, but Zeref reversed time and restored his body. Zeref hasn't lost the ability to do this. He simply didn't need to because Natsu's punches only left very minor scratches on his face.

Those who considered Natsu a fodder got it all wrong i mean in Tartarous arc Natsu performance wasn't the best basically every demon wiped the floor with him as a Natsu fan i believed that Natsu became weak and got nerfed for a certain reason. Igneel death made Natsu realize how weak he is so he went training to avenge him and to protect his ppl. Tartarous turned out to be a set up for Natsu to get stronger and Avater arc displayed the fruit of his training. I think Mashima made it so obvious when he let Natsu oneshot both Bluenote and the wargod he was foreshadowing his strength. Here ppl started to get butthurt over the fact that Natsu became very strong so they downplayed them and put them in fodder tier even when he beat Jacob and enhanced Neinhart they put them very low in power scaling with that being said, His powers weren't explained well you can only see it between the lines.

 

[Pirate Queen]

Those who considered Natsu a fodder got it all wrong i mean in Tartarous arc Natsu performance wasn't the best basically every demon wiped the floor with him as a Natsu fan i believed that Natsu became weak and got nerfed for a certain reason. Igneel death made Natsu realize how weak he is so he went training to avenge him and to protect his ppl. Tartarous turned out to be a set up for Natsu to get stronger and Avater arc displayed the fruit of his training. I think Mashima made it so obvious when he let Natsu oneshot both Bluenote and the wargod he was foreshadowing his strength. Here ppl started to get butthurt over the fact that Natsu became very strong so they downplayed them and put them in fodder tier even when he beat Jacob and enhanced Neinhart they put them very low in power scaling with that being said, His powers weren't explained well you can only see it between the lines.

This is his list of feats that people considered fodder level and wouldnt open their eyea to see how op Natsu became.

One shot Blue Note
One shot WarGod
Wiped out 1/10th of a million man army without Igneel's power
Incapacitated Jacob with a single hit while evaporating an entire lake
One Shot Enhanced Neinhart that was a teir above spriggan level
Melted a Spriggan level ice spell (his weakness) when he was trolled by Silver-level spell 2 arcs earlier
Fought on par with Zeref fot a while
And is now keeping up with FH Zeref

In no way was Natsu even HINTED to be below the Highest Tier of Wizard in this arc. If readers were caught off guard, it is only because their reading comprehension was subpar. "Haters" proudly where their "i hate natsu" badge proudly and blindly becuase they'd rather see Laxus, Gildartz, Grey, or their favorite character shine more.