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its like watching recording repeat itself again and againhahaha im loving this except that irene knew she couldnt beat acno and even admitted it but lets ignored that. 2. U1 didnt do shit to him he come back and proceeds to oneshot her 3.wendy>irene because she can counter her enchantment plus has DS advantages according to my logic right?
lol serena is tanking wendy kick with no damage i dont why this is debatable. so i guess gray is own tier above dimaria then same with erza right
2 its even debatable if TS will work TO cheila (if ultear wasnt there) unless u think TO cheila is stronger than wahl and laxus. 3. i already said it might have limited range also gray was able to go toe to toe with End who is stronger than dimaria so i guess gray>>>dimaria.
so i guess zeref is stupid because he take hits from base natsu knowing that doesnt hurt him too?
might as well say POF erza>zeref and acno while u add it since they both havent shown erza like feats
except that irene had to try harder because on wendy if she wasnt there she gets no diff. when cana was there august didnt have try much harder 2. be4 wendy interferes erza couldnt do any thing in fact couldnt get a hit on irene while gildartz could be4 he got outclassed. lol it barely blitzes cana funny but it blitzes gildartz AND cana was gonna get oneshot if gildartz didnt interfered. show me a panel when erza blitzes ajeel u havent provided that yet.
u r really reaching aint u? laxus wasnt never portray above erza??? hahahaha the denial is really strong here. lol laxus was never on ancologia by portrayal but i love how u use one category to prove who stronger but when its used against u its a problem.
lol yes heat does travel but deosnt prove that his fire spread out to melt lucy when we have a panel clearly trying to burn his ice http://www.mangareader.net/fairy-tail/497/17. 2. natsu>invel but it took time for him to melt and that was longer enough to beat natsu. same logic with human irene. also he isnt a fire mage either so by ur logic he can instafreeze her.
ya because ur only going by feats tho when portrayal and hype puts him above her. plus she said it herself. and i do have protrayal zeref excepted laxus or jellal to come to guild first because he knew that they were the top tiers in the ishgar and was disappointed that it was gray.
crushing is an OP magic he will easily scatter erza.
erza busted a meteor means gildartz can can use crashing magic to do the same also we can debate if Dragon claw swipe>meteor eeza wasnt able to stop that but she was able to stop a meteor. if u want go by that logic the feats wise u have to agree that erza is the strongest in the verse because zeref hasnt to bust a top tier irene attack and anco hasnt shown that he has erza type of endurance
i agree with u endurance erza>gildartz and laxus
speed?? no ur funny when did erza blitzes ajeel? show me a panel.
power feats gildartz easily outclass erza. common sense portrayal and powersacling. same logic applies with everything else plus if u read the crucnhyroll translation its confirm that gildartz is the strongest in the guild aka hype and portrayal
but they till got affected before laxus ate it and plus it literally everywhere whereas it was an AOE from bradman. also eats it is worse THAN being expose to i. its like smoking vs second hand smoking
yes i know aconologia is stronger than irene.
but your logic doesnt
sand world also did absolutely nothing to erza
show me when erza defeated partial end.
enraged des gray >> dimeria
irene >>> invel
i dont get it, i just showed you your evidence showing wahl is somehow immune to TS is BS.
what are laxus portrayal again. best he can do is one shot a springgan. what is erza feat, over powering a move which will make wahl + ajeel + serena disappear. do you even remember dues sema.
dragon claw stronger than dues sema lol
i will discuss that only after discussing bardman first seal being stronger than his third and invel insta freez above his ice armour.
again show me any gildart power feat near erza power feat.
erza blitzed ajeel right after marin was removed from the equation.
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gildart was stronger than azuma
but that nuke had gildart plus alot of other powers in it (how much, we dont know).
yes, both of them mostly got kicked around, just like wahl. one or two nuke used, were clearly stated to be tanked.
were they? then tell me why did natsu not use secret art against erigor, or aria or jellal, or in the start of the fight against laxus. why did he use it at the end of laxus fight just like laxus did with wahl, just erza did with kagura, just like gray did with invel
if cana was far behind gildart, then why are they falling back from meteor august as if they are standing side by side, it also look like they were hit at the same time? and why is august doing only one swing?
i want people stop being hypocrite that is all.
you know like before the first time skip markrov clearly thought erza could probably take laxus and natsu used to sh!t himself looking at erza
so normal person would come up with laxus>=erza>>natsu.
but they are people out there who will either ignore manga, or they are seriously biased
and since we know how much people hate erza, so i give people benefit of doubt and just call them bais
gildart is not a fast character. at max i can agree on him being faster than laxus (though that is not true either). but not erza (she was dodging irene nuke span quite nicely).
no i accuse people of being bais, when they show it. think like
hype mira + pre so erza < jura (of course, jura can easily do this)
hype S class monster =< jura (HAHAHAHA what nonsense)
could you tell me about these deviation you speak of
obviously if someone believes in a hype like laxus can causally one shot ajeel without any evidence, i would expect the same person to believe in dues sema hype with the same spirit. unless they have some good reasons.
good reason does not include laxus winning like how good guys win 60 to 70 percent of the time. you know struggling first and then pull some ass pull magic out of their ass to pretty much one shot them. see ikugura vs erza or gray vs rufus
yeah like you werent saying that erza should have been replace by mira in this very thread some times ago.
you go double crazy with laxus anyway.
- Aria>Gajeel (basically here you believe hype over feat to an extreme extend, a similar example would be you saying you dont believe laxus > nienhart)
- S Class Monster=Jura (i dont believe this any more than i believe mira + pre so erza >= jura. see how non bais people behave)
- Kyoka>Mard Geer (i dont believe this either, however how i treat hax, remember i also said august cant beat brandish without plot, this is before we knew he could negate magic)
- Azuma>Gildarts+Makarov+Natsu+Gray+everyone else on Tenrou (i dont believe this either, however i wont change the nuke description, so people can say laxus can mid diff erza)
in this arc, laxus has performed around average
he had MBP and his magic was ineffective against a mid tier opponent. he won, and couldn't perform anymore
remember gray vs rufus, gray magic was ineffective against rufus too. he ass pulled his way to win and still took out lyon somehow.
people never put gmg gray even near top tier in gmg (rightly so) but now since its fan favorite laxus, this performance is enough.
even you, remember what you said. erza hasn't defeated a springgan, thus she is below someone who has. but gildart is here. now you have to change that otherwise gildart also suffers along with erza.
you saw gildart over power a boss top tier move, and you easily believe he can kill a top tier with the same move
but when you saw erza over power a boss top tier move, you think she cant even one shot a mid tier
whether you like it or not this is double standard.
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