My Final Ranking of FT after the series ends
Acnologia
Natsu
FH Zeref
August
Irene
Gildarts
Jellal
Laxus(Larcade should be somewhere here)
Gray
WSD Sting
Erza
Dimaria
Brandish
Mirajane
Wendy
Lucy
Juvia
*Skipped a lot of characters because i don't think they are necessary for the plot
How does the disadvantage prove Acnologia > Igneel? Igneel is the one with the disadvantage, not Acnologia. And I don't see how that correlates to Wendy > Irene. Wendy cancelled all of Irene's enchantment spells without any dragon slaying advantage.
Both Acnologia and Irene are low-tier dragons.
Once again, Atlas Flame was never near his full power when he fought Makarov and that group of wizards. He used a casual blast & shockwave that was meant to kill normal human beings... not wizards.
Sting's words aren't facts, he doesn't even know what the full power of a dragon looks like. He was practically admitting defeat, so that just proves my point further that the GMG dragons would have killed everybody (dragon slayers & fodders), if the Eclipse Gate had not been destroyed.
Even Gajeel was killed by his dragon before Ultear turned back time. And Gajeel beat Rogue during the Grand Magic Games.
Gildartz did have a track record. He made Natsu bawl on the floor simply by powering up. Natsu always looked up and highly respected Gildartz's power, it's pretty obvious that Gildartz is the guild's strongest wizard.
Not to mention, Gildartz wasfamous across Magnolia and the entire continent for his strength. In Fairy Tail Ice Trail, he even surprised Ur (who is Wizard Saint tier) when he easily defeated a creature.
Acnologia having Christina tier speed cannot be a good feat, regardless of which way we try to interpret it. Igneel could tear off Acnologia's arm while being half dead.
Using common sense, a full power Igneel is on a separate tier compared to Acnologia.
Atlas Flame saved all those "fodders" you are talking about. If he didn't destroy the Eclipse Gate, everybody in Crocus would have died by the dragons that day.
Jellal blocked Acnologia's attack easily, that cannot be top-tier dragon worthy.
Acnologia was serious when he chased after Christina. He wanted total destruction, he just couldn't get it because he was too slow.
I don't know why you keep bringing up the "he couldn't kill fodders" card.
One last time, I do not expect Acnologia to kill fodders.
Mard Geer did not kill any fodders, but he didn't keep repeating dumb mistakes every few minutes. He made smart choices and put up a good fight before dying.
Plot only makes Acnologia lose the final fight. Not excuse him for his ridiculous and absurd mistakes.
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That's why Mard Geer is a way better villain than Acnologia. He didn't make any absurd decisions and still put up a good fight against DF Natsu and DeS Gray.
Gray was responsible for the defeat of Etherious Mard Geer. His attacks led to Mard Geer's downfall. Not to mention, he tanked Etherious form's Memento Mori, which has the power to erase almost any mage.
Natsu provided a distraction, but his DF + DS Secret Art Spell had little effect on Mard Geer, just like Sting & Rogue.
And if Jiemma did not step into the fight, Gray would have had a chance to kill Mard Geer before he could turn into his Etherious form.
Acnologia already destroyed all the dragons and yet you still claim he's fodder. Let's do the math, Acnologia killed all the dragons in human form, killed Igneel again and is considered fodder.
Anyway, Acnologia couldn't catch the ship due to plot, the audience needed to see the Ravines of Time. He came specifically after the Spriggans were defeated because Hiro couldn't fit all that in story at once. Not because "he has low speed" feats.
And Wendy did not cancel out all of Irene's spells kid. Just one, quit letting out false information from your fan fiction. Let's do the math for this one, Irene enchants the army extra casually and Ezra barley holds up but the moment she tags Irene she's somehow stronger than Irene and she's fodder.
word she was a steady character with no huge leap in power she was a consistent character that grow but not to the point where she was ridiculous powerful unlike the 2 other characters
word she was a steady character with no huge leap in power she was a consistent character that grow but not to the point where she was ridiculous powerful unlike the 2 other characters
Well to be honest lucy's potential was always unfulfilled. She could be a big powerhouse if she had full access to her keys I think author intentionally didn't attempted to meke her powerhouse just like he didn't develop natsu as a character.
But let's be honest DF natsu was always somewhat OP from the get go. And even now only his DF form should be little higher than jellal and laxus, rest of the forms are definitely weaker.
Well to be honest lucy's potential was always unfulfilled. She could be a big powerhouse if she had full access to her keys I think author intentionally didn't attempted to meke her powerhouse just like he didn't develop natsu as a character.
But let's be honest DF natsu was always somewhat OP from the get go. And even now only his DF form should be little higher than jellal and laxus, rest of the forms are definitely weaker.
Lucy was never a powerhouse, never portrayed as powerhouse and never was meant to be a powerhouse. If she had full access to her keys, she would just be stronger, not powerhouse material.
Base Natsu has better feats than Jellal and Laxus, Natsu without DF is now considered stronger than Jellal and Laxus.
Well to be honest lucy's potential was always unfulfilled. She could be a big powerhouse if she had full access to her keys I think author intentionally didn't attempted to meke her powerhouse just like he didn't develop natsu as a character.
But let's be honest DF natsu was always somewhat OP from the get go. And even now only his DF form should be little higher than jellal and laxus, rest of the forms are definitely weaker.
Lucy was never a powerhouse, never portrayed as powerhouse and never was meant to be a powerhouse. If she had full access to her keys, she would just be stronger, not powerhouse material.
Base Natsu has better feats than Jellal and Laxus, Natsu without DF is now considered stronger than Jellal and Laxus.
CSK was definitely much stronger than mard geer, now he may not be zeref, august or irene tier but he could give him good challenge. I think both END and CSK were the only ones on the good side who actually could have taken out august. That is just my belief. CSK one metoer attack split the entire land and sea. That thing was pure power.
How does the disadvantage prove Acnologia > Igneel? Igneel is the one with the disadvantage, not Acnologia. And I don't see how that correlates to Wendy > Irene. Wendy cancelled all of Irene's enchantment spells without any dragon slaying advantage.
Both Acnologia and Irene are low-tier dragons.
Once again, Atlas Flame was never near his full power when he fought Makarov and that group of wizards. He used a casual blast & shockwave that was meant to kill normal human beings... not wizards.
Sting's words aren't facts, he doesn't even know what the full power of a dragon looks like. He was practically admitting defeat, so that just proves my point further that the GMG dragons would have killed everybody (dragon slayers & fodders), if the Eclipse Gate had not been destroyed.
Even Gajeel was killed by his dragon before Ultear turned back time. And Gajeel beat Rogue during the Grand Magic Games.
Gildartz did have a track record. He made Natsu bawl on the floor simply by powering up. Natsu always looked up and highly respected Gildartz's power, it's pretty obvious that Gildartz is the guild's strongest wizard.
Not to mention, Gildartz wasfamous across Magnolia and the entire continent for his strength. In Fairy Tail Ice Trail, he even surprised Ur (who is Wizard Saint tier) when he easily defeated a creature.
Acnologia having Christina tier speed cannot be a good feat, regardless of which way we try to interpret it. Igneel could tear off Acnologia's arm while being half dead.
Using common sense, a full power Igneel is on a separate tier compared to Acnologia.
Atlas Flame saved all those "fodders" you are talking about. If he didn't destroy the Eclipse Gate, everybody in Crocus would have died by the dragons that day.
Jellal blocked Acnologia's attack easily, that cannot be top-tier dragon worthy.
Acnologia was serious when he chased after Christina. He wanted total destruction, he just couldn't get it because he was too slow.
I don't know why you keep bringing up the "he couldn't kill fodders" card.
One last time, I do not expect Acnologia to kill fodders.
Mard Geer did not kill any fodders, but he didn't keep repeating dumb mistakes every few minutes. He made smart choices and put up a good fight before dying.
Plot only makes Acnologia lose the final fight. Not excuse him for his ridiculous and absurd mistakes.
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this is probably be my last post because we are really going in circle with this
it doesnt matter once again its his ability from his DS magic. disadvantage or not its still proves acno>ingeel because he has the ability to reap souls from dragons that his power and u cant just say "100% igneel is stronger because he ripped his arm at 50%''. by ur logic almost every1 that fights august is massive disadvantage because he can copy magic but still gildartz>august or that human mages are in a massively disadvantage against dragons but till gildartz>AF that pretty much ur saying. the reason why i brought this up because u believe that wendy>irene because of her DS magic can beat an dragon irene which is a disadvantage for irene and a + for wendy so by ur logic wendy>anco because they are ''low tier dragons''
it doesnt matter bro a causal roar should kill or oneshot a group of wizards (fodders included) i mean a top tier dragon can perform that feat aka igneel right?? . atlma flames couldnt do that mean him and the gmg dragons are not top tier dragons?? according to ur logic. the same logic ur using on acno is the same logic im using and use it on the gmg dragons it either altmas flame is a low tier dragon same with anco or he isnt same because top tier dragons dont make those ''mistakes''. cant flip flop bro
being serious=/= use full power. the fact of the matter that it was stated that they were serious(again not going all out) but couldnt kill them/oneshot them at that moment proves my point even more because ur being bias toward gmg dragons.
i dont why u keep bringing up that AF and natsu saving them from the eclipse gate when that was never my argument. ill say this one last time I know that GMG dragons would have kill them eventually never said that any of the mages included the DS stand a chance against gmg dragons but gmg dragons couldnt put in quick work on any1 included fodders nor did they put any damage them despite not using their full power/causal moves , i keep bring up "they couldnt kill fodders" because ur saying acno didnt kill fodders so that logic apply to the gmg dragons because they didnt perform any better feats. show me a panel when gajeel died fighting a dragon i dont remember that at all and ok gajeel beat rogue? and i dont understand ur logic here what r u trying to say??
no u did not understand what i just said i just talking during the FF arc. we didnt know who gildartz was untill after coming back to the guild. be4 his appearance we didnt have his track record other then he was hype to be the strongest member in the FT guild. so i guess at that FF natsu>gildartz. because we had no track record of him prior to his feats.
the spinoff is non canon and i dont read those when it doesnt correlate to the story. if u dont understand still. im saying is that why not buy the hype GS when but buy gildartz being the strongest in FT. now im not tryin to debate GS vs gildartz (although IMO gildartz>GS) but prior to the hype and appearance they was both claim to be powerful dudes and then they display it with their feats.
i dont understand this logic acno has chistana tier speed when it just shows he has poor travelling speed? what does that have to do combat speed? i mean when fighting ingeel does he need his traveling speed to fight toe to toe with igneel?? traveling speed=/=combat speed . 2. cool when acno wasnt using his main powers. he can rip his arm off.
no it doesnt because full power ingeel will still lose to anco becuase he can steal his soul and eat magic.
jellal blocked human anco not dragon anco 2. jellal would have done the same with ingeel.
he caught up with chirstana did u forget that he did??? plus he got off because of the motion sickness
ok this is what ur saying acno is a low tier dragon because he didnt instantly catch Christina (even tho the plot made him delay the chase because we needed anna to explain who she was and how ravines of time works) and then he caught up but the motion sickness kicked in because chistana activated it. and he has low intelligence because he should left chistana alone and then chase after the other DS (and what do u except to do tho?) so if he went after the other DS he would made his iq 10x better which means better feat . u also said that anco couldnt kill any1 characters/fodders. (but gmg dragons couldnt do it same thing at the time they were given) by ur logic igneel needs to be 100% aka full powered to stand a chance to beat any low tier dragons.
ok? anco was playing with every1 the whole entire time. never saw him get serious in this entire arc in a battle but u keep bringing up not instantly catching chistana when that would be irrelevant in a battle because traveling speed=/=combat speed and his has low intelligence because he went after a ship full with wizard in it including a ds but u dismiss his other feats such as blitz GS and pass thru august (who knew he doesnt stand a chance against him).
CSK was definitely much stronger than mard geer, now he may not be zeref, august or irene tier but he could give him good challenge. I think both END and CSK were the only ones on the good side who actually could have taken out august. That is just my belief. CSK one metoer attack split the entire land and sea. That thing was pure power.
Marde at Base was toying around and dodging CSK's moves without going to etherious. Marde was also fighting one-handed, while CSK was pissed off.
CSK has much better offensive power, but Marde has better everything else. Speed, mobility, dura, defense, you name it.
Both have insta regen.
Jackal doesn't have good durability feats, he's fodder, and didn't even defend himself.
True, I put him around Marde tier at full power, but below him overall.
Jackal doesn't have good durability feats, he's fodder, and didn't even defend himself.
True, I put him around Marde tier at full power, but below him overall.
He tanked Base Natsu's blows plus he's an idiot given his intelligence status but even still he got nothing that can defend against all those constellation orbs. And regarding CSK, I guess there's nothing to debunk that considering his feats was based on a weakened Lucy
He tanked Base Natsu's blows plus he's an idiot given his intelligence status but even still he got nothing that can defend against all those constellation orbs. And regarding CSK, I guess there's nothing to debunk that considering his feats was based on a weakened Lucy
ya that a major problem in PL schemes when it comes endurance and durability what do consider tanking vs what do u consider enduring?
which moves in causal or serious?
nah bro laxus is bae until hiro messed up his character
. u also said that anco couldnt kill any1 characters/fodders. (but gmg dragons couldnt do it same thing at the time they were given) by ur logic igneel needs to be 100% aka full powered to stand a chance to beat any low tier dragons. 
