Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Jhonatas Fernandes]

The point is, she still defeated Jacob. Jacob could be blind but if the one he's against is weak asf, then he would still win. Stop discrediting a character just because they have tactical advantage. That's like saying anyone couldn't have won against any enemies if not because of PoF.

It is pretty simple: physically she is able to defeat him but if he uses his hax he wins. And his strength is basically his hax (spatial magic). Mirajane won against him in a situation that a lot of other characters could too, it doesn't put her as spriggan level because spriggan level counts the hax of the enemy too and Mashima made a situation that Jacob didn't use it.

Is it cleary?

--- Double Post Merged, Oct 6, 2019, Original Post Date: Oct 6, 2019 ---

Mira says mentions that not Mashima and we know Mira is humble like hell. Jacob also mentions that it's not a hinderance to close his eyes and he only tripped up once due to terrain change but got his bearings after the first slip up.

The animation made Mirajane's situation worst. She defeated an opponent that was able to hit his own face in a tree by himself! LOL
It's better to pretend that in the manga, at least, he fought better than this sh**t.

--- Double Post Merged, Oct 6, 2019 ---

Lol?

She has fought better against Brandish than when she fought Jacob.

 

[WoWfan]

He is more than capable of using physical strength as he managed to overpower base natsu as well as Lucy and Mira, so it could have gone either way. Brandish was holding back the entire time, Lucy did not do much at all

 

[Jhonatas Fernandes]

He is more than capable of using physical strength as he managed to overpower base natsu as well as Lucy and Mira, so it could have gone either way

He overpowered Natsu who fought trying to not make any damage in the guild ** and didn't hurt Lucy more than superficially and he wasn't able even to avoid a tree with closed eye.
What is impressive about it?

 

[WoWfan]

It doesn’t matter since it was his base form, and base form would be just below Spriggan strength Even being below Spriggan strength, Lucy is still strong in her own right. Plus it is confirmed that damaging the guild was hyperbolic

 

[IamtherealMirajane]

It is pretty simple: physically she is able to defeat him but if he uses his hax he wins. And his strength is basically his hax (spatial magic). Mirajane won against him in a situation that a lot of other characters could too, it doesn't put her as spriggan level because spriggan level counts the hax of the enemy too and Mashima made a situation that Jacob didn't use it.

Is it cleary?

--- Double Post Merged, Oct 6, 2019, Original Post Date: Oct 6, 2019 ---

The animation made Mirajane's situation worst. She defeated an opponent that was able to hit his own face in a tree by himself! LOL
It's better to pretend that in the manga, at least, he fought better than this sh**t.

--- Double Post Merged, Oct 6, 2019 ---

She has fought better against Brandish than when she fought Jacob.

Well like what Dimaria said Brandish is holding back when she fought lucy. So there is nothing special about it.


Mirajane didnt also used the macro which is also a hax magic right? So whats your point.

To terrify Irene's squad with magic power alone make her already a spriggan level. Not to mention to beat an actual spriggan. Case closed.

 

[Jhonatas Fernandes]

Well like what Dimaria said Brandish is holding back when she fought lucy. So there is nothing special about it.


Mirajane didnt also used the macro which is also a hax magic right? So whats your point.

To terrify Irene's squad with magic power alone make her already a spriggan level. Not to mention to beat an actual spriggan. Case closed.

I'm talking about Lucy performance and attacks and not how the enemy was fighting her. Jacob serious didn't make any relevant attack on Lucy in terms of damage.

Mirajane doesn't seem to be able to use Macro against powerful mages. She even can use macro twice in fodders.


She didn't show be able to defeat any Spriggan when the enemy is fighting with all its power. Case closed.

 

[WoWfan]

Even Natsu stated that Jacob is tough, which only shows that Natsu had to go serious against Spriggan level characters in order to actually do damage, even Lucy stated she stood no chance against Spriggan level characters. Mira did managed to defeat high enchantments so had she been at full power, Mira could have put up a relative fight against base Irene

 

[Jko]

It is pretty simple: physically she is able to defeat him but if he uses his hax he wins. And his strength is basically his hax (spatial magic). Mirajane won against him in a situation that a lot of other characters could too, it doesn't put her as spriggan level because spriggan level counts the hax of the enemy too and Mashima made a situation that Jacob didn't use it.

Is it cleary?

--- Double Post Merged, Oct 6, 2019, Original Post Date: Oct 6, 2019 ---

The animation made Mirajane's situation worst. She defeated an opponent that was able to hit his own face in a tree by himself! LOL
It's better to pretend that in the manga, at least, he fought better than this sh**t.

--- Double Post Merged, Oct 6, 2019 ---

She has fought better against Brandish than when she fought Jacob.

Bcs of the terrain change. Do you not read?

 

[Star Frost]

He is more than capable of using physical strength as he managed to overpower base natsu as well as Lucy and Mira, so it could have gone either way. Brandish was holding back the entire time, Lucy did not do much at all

Think he was only pointing that Lucy showed out more against Brandish than against Jacob which is true. It’s kind of like how would it be if that was Jacob she was doing all what she was doing against Brandish?

Even Natsu stated that Jacob is tough, which only shows that Natsu had to go serious against Spriggan level characters in order to actually do damage, even Lucy stated she stood no chance against Spriggan level characters. Mira did managed to defeat high enchantments so had she been at full power, Mira could have put up a relative fight against base Irene

Dude, no. How does Mira beating Juliet and Heine mean she would put up a fight against base Irene? Those two are not on Irene’s level just cause Irene created them if that’s what you think. Mira even underestimated them thinking she would beat them with ease.

 

[WoWfan]

Yet Lucy was still inferior as Brandish was holding back, besides Lucy would have died in the first attack with the knives he throw, Irene was high enchant in human form, not master enchant, which is a difference ins level of power, Erza could not even fight against basic enchantments such as berserkers, underestimating is not the same as losing, which Mira did not in the end. I said fight against, not win against, there is a differnce

 

[Jhonatas Fernandes]

Yet Lucy was still inferior as Brandish was holding back, besides Lucy would have died in the first attack with the knives he throw, Irene was high enchant in human form, not master enchant, which is a difference ins level of power, Erza could not even fight against basic enchantments such as berserkers, underestimating is not the same as losing, which Mira did not in the end. I said fight against, not win against, there is a differnce

"Yet Lucy was still inferior as Brandish was holding back, besides Lucy would have died in the first attack with the knives he throw"

You can't prove that.
That scene is terrible. Horrible. A Nerf. If she was with a Spirit on the battlefield even the Spirit could stop the knife for her (but for some reason she didn't bother to start the battle summing anyone (?) rs). The knife probably would hit Lucy arms that she held in a defensive pose. She wouldn't be dead by it.

 

[WoWfan]

Yes because Dimaria literally stated it, and even Dimaria did not play nice as she literallly beat Lucy under her heel, that was not a nerf at all, it was exactly how it was, Brandish was country-Large country level and Lucy was not, no it was not, not when it came from a spriggan

 

[Jhonatas Fernandes]

Bcs of the terrain change. Do you not read?

Horrible!!!!!!!! It is trash. A proper opponent would be even capable of not hurt himself on his own. Jacob was fighting being a comic relief in the anime. So bad.

--- Double Post Merged, Oct 6, 2019, Original Post Date: Oct 6, 2019 ---

August, Irene > Larcade > any other Spriggan > Heyne and Juliet

That's the ranking level order.

 

[WoWfan]

Actually one can, the only great force to hurt a person, is themselves

 

[Cosmicstar]

He was still subject to touched physically, nothing would suggest she wouldn’t just blast the area. Jacob already proved to be surperior to Lucy with her star dresses, so he he can, Well she did defeat a Spriggan (not Neinhart, don’t know where you got that information) so in your face.

Jacob only proved superior to Lucy in her Leo stardress. Her Taurus Stardress sent him flying across the room with a kick while a combined Regulas and Fire Kick could not do the same. It also has already been confirmed Taurus stardress is stronger than leo stardress.

Taurus Stardress Kick:

Spoiler

Lucy Leo Kick+Natsu regular Fire kick:

Spoiler

Spoiler

Also before you try to say the only reason she was able to kick him so hard/far was because he was caught off guard, he was also caught off guard during the Lucy+Natsu Kick. I mean why she went from a power stardress like Taurus to a weak stardress like Leo is beyond me. I assume so we could get some Nalu action. She without a doubt would have been able to physically overpower Jacob in her Taurus Stardress.

The eye closing is a bigger advantage because Mashima felt the need to mention it, simple as that. I still say Mira wins a fair fight, but let's not pretend Mashima specifically mention the eye closing for no reason.

He mentions it because it was already stated earlier and shown earlier to be a huge disadvantage for Jacob not to boost Mirajane. LOL/

Spoiler

Everyone is able to hit Jacob when his eyes is closed proven when Lucy, Natsu and Loke were all able to hit him while his eyes were restricted rather it being because of Leo's light or because of Lucy's lewd body. Let's please stop with the Mirajane defeating Jacob being impressive stick. This does not make her Spriggan tier at all. This is actually embarrassing for Mirajane because she had a hard time against a seriously nerfed Jacob. At Brandish used her Mass Manipulation against Lucy where as Jacob didn't use Transport nor Stealth against Mirjaane yet we are suppose to be impressed. How?

Also people try to bring up the whole Mirajane magical power drying up the sea thing. First off she can only do that while in Algeria and it cost her majority of her magic. Second and lastly we have seen other characters do this exact same thing.

Natsu power drying up the Lake while using his FDKM:

Spoiler

Lucy evaporating Plutogrim water while summoning the CSK:

Spoiler

Had Hyien and Juliet been at these moments they would have had the same reactions as they had against Mirajane Algeria soul.

Also people try to downplay Makarov while up playing Mirajane with the whole Hyien and Juliet not being impressed by him yet both Irene and Zeref was impressed by his power both of whom drastically outclass Hyien and Juliet.

Spoiler

Spoiler

Also where was it stated Hyien and Juliet were High enchantments or whatever? Or that they were stronger than Beserker? Please provide the panels.

All that was said was that they were personalities enchanted on a sword.

Spoiler

Beyond that Erza with Majority of her bones broken and Irene using master enchantment his strongest enchantment power destroyed Irene's Meteor:

Spoiler

Spoiler

Spoiler

Spoiler

Mirajane uses a massive amount of her power to destroy to fodder swords:

Spoiler

The difference between Mirajane and Erza is huge.


People tend to overrate Mirajane wayyyy to much.

 

[Walkyrien]

Mirajane doesn't seem to be able to use Macro against powerful mages. She even can use macro twice in fodders.

There's no proof in this one. Stop making up things.

 

[Seven777]

He mentions it because it was already stated earlier and shown earlier to be a huge disadvantage for Jacob not to boost Mirajane. LOL/

So? That's what I said. I'll assume the rest of that comment is directed at someone else and not read it.

 

[WoWfan]

And Natsu is superior to Taurus, and Jacob overpowered Natsu several times already. So Lucy is by every field of combat weaker than Jacob and cannot beat him in a straight up fight. Also Brandish managed to stop Taurus dress with one hand and she is on the same level as Jacob, and she was not even trying

 

[Walkyrien]

Mirajane uses a massive amount of her power to destroy to fodder swords:

Why are you insisting that Juliet and Heine are fodders? You're downplaying too much that's why you think a li'l bit of credit seems to be overrated. It will be impossible to Lucy to defeat those two w/o CSK's help. Also, you can already stop with that water vapor thingy because you've been bringing that thing up months ago and we get the point. At the end of the day, Lucy and Natsu lose against Jacob and Mirajane wins, that's an impressive feat. Juliet and Heine were clearly the strongest creation of Eileen so there's no need to mention it as it was shown by the fight. What I mean by the "strongest" as in stronger than any of the berserkers.

 

[Star Frost]

Yet Lucy was still inferior as Brandish was holding back, besides Lucy would have died in the first attack with the knives he throw, Irene was high enchant in human form, not master enchant, which is a difference ins level of power, Erza could not even fight against basic enchantments such as berserkers, underestimating is not the same as losing, which Mira did not in the end. I said fight against, not win against, there is a differnce

Never said she was superior. Just that she showed out better against Brandish than with Jacob. To me, I feel that Jacob is weaker than a Brandish. And he only shown to hand it to Lucy in her Leo form and it’s pretty much been established that her star dresses aren’t the same level of each other. Such as her Taurus form that possess more power than Leo form for example. And never was I saying Mira underestimating them is the same as losing and I’m aware you said fight against. Kind of annoying how you’re coming up with these interpretations that don’t even follow along with what I’m saying. I would appreciate you take to time to read and comprehend before you type. I was saying you saying just cause she beaten Juliet and Heine would mean she would give a fight against base Irene is not true. Those two were made to be subordinate level. Them being made by Irene doesn’t mean she’s at their level as you were insinuating. And the fact Mira went all out against subordinate level opponents wouldn’t mean she would give even Base Irene a good fight considering she’s stronger than them.