Like what i said Mirajane is playing with Lucy even tainted in white she still consider her as a friend. A testament to this she only tied both virgo and loke.
It is very different on how was triggered by the diabolos. She did not even use soul extinction or evil explosion only basic taijutsu.
If she wants to finish lucy she can use those spell or maybe sitri or alegria form.
@Jko each arc jellal has comparable feats to laxus. Gray solo thunder tribe Mira with help from elfman and lisanna couldnt solo Lucy plus gray has demon slayer advantage. FDKM>erza Also DF
What did he do in Alvarez comparable to Laxus? Or in Tartarus? Mira didn't go her strongest form unlike Gray and they are taking it casual lol. Gray needed his DeS boost to solo the Rajinshuu...Mira went back into BSS and already scared Lucy shitless lol. That's an advantage tho without it he's not and therefore on a power scale she is above him bcs his DeS is only effective against Demons.
Current Natsu had high diff with Gajeel so he's gonna need some better feats to say he's stronger than Erza.
Wall was right next to them and already scanned Macro which means he could've cancelled it out. There's also the fact she used it on a number of people which could mean Macro has limit of the number of people it can effect at once. She also didn't use it again bcs hax gets used like once in FT battles lol.
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How the hell is Jellal above Natsu or Erza? He's done nothing to warrant that besides baseless hype of being Laxus' rival (hmm which is hypocritical seeing as a multitude of people say rival hype is meaningless lol).
Also are you talking currently or EoS? Bcs Natsu w/o external boost as not shown to be above Erza either.
Current Gray has shown nothing to be above Mira either.
What did he do in Alvarez comparable to Laxus? Or in Tartarus? Mira didn't go her strongest form unlike Gray and they are taking it casual lol. Gray needed his DeS boost to solo the Rajinshuu...Mira went back into BSS and already scared Lucy shitless lol. That's an advantage tho without it he's not and therefore on a power scale she is above him bcs his DeS is only effective against Demons.
Current Natsu had high diff with Gajeel so he's gonna need some better feats to say he's stronger than Erza.
Jellal in Tartaros defeated 4 members of Oracion 6 on his own. Irene said, in the war, that the Oracion 6 group was more troublesome than the group with Gajeel, Mirajane, Levy, Lisanna and Elfman.
In Alvarez, Jellal quickly stopped an attack from human Acnologia and even was able to hit some attacks on him. After, he ''fought'' dragon Acnologia and was able to hit him and scape from a blast attack of the Dragon King. Jellal even was swallowed by Acnologia's hand and survive it without even pass out.
Nothing nerfed, she effected way more people simultaneously than Seilah and Mira is way stronger than Seilah. Dude you have some real downplay for Mira if you think her Macro is weaker than Seilah's.
Nothing nerfed, she effected way more people simultaneously than Seilah and Mira is way stronger than Seilah. Dude you have some real downplay for Mira if you think her Macro is weaker than Seilah's.
A human with demon genes being stronger than a pure etherious demon that stomped this woman with two attacks? Source: Mirajane stan delirious.
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Her Macro showed to be worst than when Sayla used it.
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And honestly, I don't care if she is stronger than Sayla right now or not, I just want to see the level of macro curse on Mirajane's hand and, until now, it's a nerfed version of Macro.
Mirajane's macro is nerfed. Sayla used twice times easily.
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Jellal in Tartaros defeated 4 members of Oracion 6 on his own. Irene said, in the war, that the Oracion 6 group was more troublesome than the group with Gajeel, Mirajane, Levy, Lisanna and Elfman.
In Alvarez, Jellal quickly stopped an attack from human Acnologia and even was able to hit some attacks on him. After, he ''fought'' dragon Acnologia and was able to hit him and scape from a blast attack of the Dragon King. Jellal even was swallowed by Acnologia's hand and survive it without even pass out.
4 fodders and got beat up by them as well lmao. Since when is taking down people Tenrou Natsu could solo mean anything? Same Tenrou Natsu that got whooped by Max lel. No, she didn't. She sent Heine and Juliet (who you think are fodder) after them lol. She also said another troublesome group has came not the most. Don't with that bs Acno feat. A ship was more useful than Jellal against him lmfao. You mean Acno was toying with him?
Jellal's feat besides the Acno feat (which is bs) were not up to par with Laxys' feats or even Erza's.
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No, it didn't. Nothing of the was shown.
Nope, it's a stronger version as Mira is stronger. She was also able to use Seilah's Macro in a weaker state on the same level as Seilah so again not weaker. Mira's not going to use her hax bcs she'd bust PL if so lol.
4 fodders and got beat up by them as well lmao. Since when is taking down people Tenrou Natsu could solo mean anything? Same Tenrou Natsu that got whooped by Max lel. No, she didn't. She sent Heine and Juliet (who you think are fodder) after them lol. She also said another troublesome group has came not the most. Don't with that bs Acno feat. A ship was more useful than Jellal against him lmfao. You mean Acno was toying with him?
Jellal's feat besides the Acno feat (which is bs) were not up to par with Laxys' feats or even Erza's.
Fodders? Cobra was able to endure a physical attack from Acnologia that crushed his limbs and still able to keeping fighting. August called Midnight's magic ''interessant".
Jellal aways was strong and he proved to be strong while enduring against Acnologia. End of history. He ever fought better than Laxus did when the DS was fighting Acnologia with others DSs.
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"Nope, it's a stronger version as Mira is stronger. She was also able to use Seilah's Macro in a weaker state on the same level as Seilah so again not weaker. Mira's not going to use her hax bcs she'd bust PL if so lol. "
Reality: only use it against fodders and wasn't able to use it twice times. Result? Nerfed.
When she uses Macro against a strong opponent and it works better or equal Sayla the macro will be the same (or better) as Sayla's, right now it is a worse version.
Fodders? Cobra was able to endure a physical attack from Acnologia that crushed his limbs and still able to keeping fighting. August called Midnight's magic ''interessant".
Jellal aways was strong and he proved to be strong while enduring against Acnologia. End of history. He ever fought better than Laxus did when the DS was fighting Acnologia with others DSs.
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"Nope, it's a stronger version as Mira is stronger. She was also able to use Seilah's Macro in a weaker state on the same level as Seilah so again not weaker. Mira's not going to use her hax bcs she'd bust PL if so lol. "
Reality: only use it against fodders and wasn't able to use it twice times. Result? Nerfed.
When she uses Macro against a strong opponent and it works better or equal Sayla the macro will be the same (or better) as Sayla's, right now it is a worse version.
Like what i said Mirajane is playing with Lucy even tainted in white she still consider her as a friend. A testament to this she only tied both virgo and loke.
It is very different on how was triggered by the diabolos. She did not even use soul extinction or evil explosion only basic taijutsu.
If she wants to finish lucy she can use those spell or maybe sitri or alegria form.
What did he do in Alvarez comparable to Laxus? Or in Tartarus? Mira didn't go her strongest form unlike Gray and they are taking it casual lol. Gray needed his DeS boost to solo the Rajinshuu...Mira went back into BSS and already scared Lucy shitless lol. That's an advantage tho without it he's not and therefore on a power scale she is above him bcs his DeS is only effective against Demons.
Current Natsu had high diff with Gajeel so he's gonna need some better feats to say he's stronger than Erza.
Jellal and laxus “lost” to natsu both fought Jura u can argue that he would have beaten Jura. Both solo a guild (RT and O6) both beat a spriggan. Both were mention from zeref as roughly equal. Both show impressive showing against acno hiro has always have them try to outperform each other. Gray use devil slayer mode cuz of the physical attribute And freed block him from his magic or else would would trash them in base mode. Gray made quick work on them mira had help with elfman and lisanna and struggled with Lucy now don’t get me wrong mira can beat Lucy but she can’t pull what gray did to thunder tribe . 3. So? Doesn’t matter des>demon takeover therefore gray>Mirajane
Fodders? Cobra was able to endure a physical attack from Acnologia that crushed his limbs and still able to keeping fighting. August called Midnight's magic ''interessant".
Jellal aways was strong and he proved to be strong while enduring against Acnologia. End of history. He ever fought better than Laxus did when the DS was fighting Acnologia with others DSs.
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"Nope, it's a stronger version as Mira is stronger. She was also able to use Seilah's Macro in a weaker state on the same level as Seilah so again not weaker. Mira's not going to use her hax bcs she'd bust PL if so lol. "
Reality: only use it against fodders and wasn't able to use it twice times. Result? Nerfed.
When she uses Macro against a strong opponent and it works better or equal Sayla the macro will be the same (or better) as Sayla's, right now it is a worse version.
Where in the heck did you get "most troublesome" when the scans says they would be a bit of trouble? Wth? OS were straight trash in Alvarez to the point Wendy had better feats than all of them combined lol. She sent Heine and Juilet (who you think are fodder) to deal with them while she sent Larcade and Bloodman after Saber and FT.
How is not using it against powerful means nerfed? The hell? Several others didn't spam hax abilities either in Alvarez lol. Hiro already admitted that he doesn't like to use hax due to them upsetting the PL system. Nothing was ever shown to say it was nerfed.
Jellal got oneshotted by Neinheart and scrubbed by August and you think he could endure anything from Acno? Lmao stop, a ship (Christina) was more useful in the fight than Jellal.
She used Macro on Elfman and stated she could use any person Seilah has already Macro which showed her Macro was equivalent to Seilah's. You have literally nothing to say it was nerfed.
Jellal and laxus “lost” to natsu both fought Jura u can argue that he would have beaten Jura. Both solo a guild (RT and O6) both beat a spriggan. Both were mention from zeref as roughly equal. Both show impressive showing against acno hiro has always have them try to outperform each other. Gray use devil slayer mode cuz of the physical attribute And freed block him from his magic or else would would trash them in base mode. Gray made quick work on them mira had help with elfman and lisanna and struggled with Lucy now don’t get me wrong mira can beat Lucy but she can’t pull what gray did to thunder tribe . 3. So? Doesn’t matter des>demon takeover therefore gray>Mirajane
Only Laxus won against Jura and it was speculated that he held back against Laxus. Raven Tail has better feats than OS who didn't train for an entire 7 years and got wasted by an inferior version of FT than even the FT on Tenrou's level. Yeah, Gray needed the stat boost to best the Rajinshuu. That's not particularly good feat seeing as he needed his strongest stats to down them. So? Even without his ice he needed a stat boost to blitz the Rajinshuu? Seriously? And his Ice Make wasn't cutting as he didn't down them before Freed even used his Ruin magic. Laxus doesn't have one good showing against Acno and Jellal's was bs as we was fodderize by people Acno could fodderize. Acno at that point struggled to catch Christina and was also smacked back twice by a ship that Wall destroyed from 400km away. Mira and Elfman are going easy as they still have sense of themselves even when under hypnosis of the WW. They love Lucy therefore they aren't going to give her a beat down. We already saw Lucy's reaction when Mira went back into the same form...that literally says it all.
No as Gray having an advantage over Demons doesn't give him credit over others who aren't. Gray would be better than Laxus at fighting Demons (as shown in Tartarus) does that mean he is stronger than Laxus? No. In a power scale you measure overall power not just the advantageous ability they have over a specific group.
Where in the heck did you get "most troublesome" when the scans says they would be a bit of trouble? Wth? OS were straight trash in Alvarez to the point Wendy had better feats than all of them combined lol. She sent Heine and Juilet (who you think are fodder) to deal with them while she sent Larcade and Bloodman after Saber and FT.
How is not using it against powerful means nerfed? The hell? Several others didn't spam hax abilities either in Alvarez lol. Hiro already admitted that he doesn't like to use hax due to them upsetting the PL system. Nothing was ever shown to say it was nerfed.
Jellal got oneshotted by Neinheart and scrubbed by August and you think he could endure anything from Acno? Lmao stop, a ship (Christina) was more useful in the fight than Jellal.
She used Macro on Elfman and stated she could use any person Seilah has already Macro which showed her Macro was equivalent to Seilah's. You have literally nothing to say it was nerfed.
They are said as more troublesome than the others, Irene just referred to as Oracion Seis as a group troublesome, she didn't make that statement to other groups. It's just basic text interpretation.
She sent Heyne and Juliet to the battlefield to help Larcade and Bloodman to fight >> all the groups << because a new group, who is a bit troublesome, was coming. Omg, you're unable to understand it? It means that only the two Spriggans were enough, in Irene views, to fight FT, BP and Sabertooth but, with O6 coming they will need more forces. It just proves how she was saying O6 was the most troublesome group in the North.
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Jellal wasn't oneshooted by Neinhart, he just drowned trying to save Kagura, Neinharts attack didn't make any damage, it was unable to even tear up his clothes. Jellal only drowned because an anchor hit him in the back when he falls underwater with Kagura. The scene was pretty clear. Actually, who oneshooted Neinhart was Jellal with Grand Charriot, lol.
August fought Jellal and O6 in offscreen and he is immune to magic attacks, what is the problem with Jellal being defeated by him? Gildarts wasn't able to defeat August even after have discovered his weakness. August is on another level. I don't understand the comparison with the ship, Jellal showed good feats, a ship was better than Laxus too even Laxus being a DS, lol, so shut up.
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Mirajane used Macro on Elfman because she was under Sayla's body using Take Over on Sayla. She took control of Sayla's Macro using her Take Over magic and she was inside Sayla controlling her macro when gave the order to Elfman, it's not the same from using Macro by herself (and Elfman was said to be below Mirajane's level, when I said use it on strong opponents I mean to use it on a rank S mage, ok? rs)
Where in the heck did you get "most troublesome" when the scans says they would be a bit of trouble? Wth? OS were straight trash in Alvarez to the point Wendy had better feats than all of them combined lol. She sent Heine and Juilet (who you think are fodder) to deal with them while she sent Larcade and Bloodman after Saber and FT.
How is not using it against powerful means nerfed? The hell? Several others didn't spam hax abilities either in Alvarez lol. Hiro already admitted that he doesn't like to use hax due to them upsetting the PL system. Nothing was ever shown to say it was nerfed.
Jellal got oneshotted by Neinheart and scrubbed by August and you think he could endure anything from Acno? Lmao stop, a ship (Christina) was more useful in the fight than Jellal.
She used Macro on Elfman and stated she could use any person Seilah has already Macro which showed her Macro was equivalent to Seilah's. You have literally nothing to say it was nerfed.
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Only Laxus won against Jura and it was speculated that he held back against Laxus. Raven Tail has better feats than OS who didn't train for an entire 7 years and got wasted by an inferior version of FT than even the FT on Tenrou's level. Yeah, Gray needed the stat boost to best the Rajinshuu. That's not particularly good feat seeing as he needed his strongest stats to down them. So? Even without his ice he needed a stat boost to blitz the Rajinshuu? Seriously? And his Ice Make wasn't cutting as he didn't down them before Freed even used his Ruin magic. Laxus doesn't have one good showing against Acno and Jellal's was bs as we was fodderize by people Acno could fodderize. Acno at that point struggled to catch Christina and was also smacked back twice by a ship that Wall destroyed from 400km away. Mira and Elfman are going easy as they still have sense of themselves even when under hypnosis of the WW. They love Lucy therefore they aren't going to give her a beat down. We already saw Lucy's reaction when Mira went back into the same form...that literally says it all.
No as Gray having an advantage over Demons doesn't give him credit over others who aren't. Gray would be better than Laxus at fighting Demons (as shown in Tartarus) does that mean he is stronger than Laxus? No. In a power scale you measure overall power not just the advantageous ability they have over a specific group.
Based on what? where was it shown that he was holding back. Raven tail has Better feats than O6? Lol ok... angel learned new magic within the 7 years what r u talking about. Thunder tribe was giving gray trouble in base. Gray was gonna solo them with just his ice but freed block him from using So obviously he used des Evergreen>elfman proven in the past so thunder tribe ain’t fodder. Bs? How? Jellal didn’t put damage on acno. Flawed logic it’s the same for every1 else that shouldn’t be an excuse with just mira and elfman.
Bad comparison because gray couldn’t solo END 2. Erza stop both their attacks in Alaverz soemthing laxus could do too. 3. Laxus didn’t have any trouble tempester he would have done the same gray did with des that isn’t an excuse. Sorry I don’t see how mira can beat gray specially with the advantage he has What make u think with mira>gray? give me feats I need to hear this
Mirajane used Macro on Elfman because she was under Sayla's body using Take Over on Sayla. She took control of Sayla's Macro using her Take Over magic and she was inside Sayla controlling her macro when gave the order to Elfman, it's not the same from using Macro by herself (and Elfman was said to be below Mirajane's level, when I said use it on strong opponents I mean to use it on a rank S mage, ok? rs)
What feats do they have to suggest them not being fodder? They never showed high attack power and all they did was kick Mirajane and get maybe one or two attacks on her. Lucy did the same to Btrandish, Jacob and Ajeel. Elfman and Lissana did the same to Ajeel. You are overrating Hyien and Juliet who hasn't shown anything impressive. Juliet and Heine scale to BSS. I wouldn’t even say Lucy scales to BSS, Lucy is fodder and I don’t even see her being able to deference Wendy.
Also the water evaporating scene is constantly brought up because people constantly talk about how Mirajane Magical power is insane because she dried up sea water. People act as though it is a mirajane exclusive feat and use that as a way to try to overrate her.
Where was it stated Hyien and Juliet were Irene greatest creation? Please provide me with proof.
Also Lucy and Natsu won against Jacob last I checked. Lucy undid his Transport and Natsu one shot with his Blaze king punch. Did you not read the chapter?
When she does something credit worthy I will give her credit until then I refuse to overrate her.
If Juliet and Heine are fodder, I guess you admit your precious Lucy is fodder as well? After all, the same damage Lucy did to Mira with a TRUMP CARD, Juliet and Heine did with three basic attacks. But I guess you’re not ready for that discussion.
Mira said she underestimated Juliet and Heine and she said they were strong. Lucy attacked three Spriggan’s but she did absolutely nothing to them. None of them were impressed with Lucy’s fighting ability and she never defeated any Spriggan or any named character in the final arc. Heck, Mira herself wasn’t impressed with Lucy’s SDM nuke. Lucy can’t maintain the SDM form for long so it should do a lot of a damage, right? WRONG! It gave Mira scratches and Mira wasn’t even faxed by it.
BSS=Juliet and Heine.
BSS>Lucy. Lucy in a SDM could only give BSS a few scratches using a trump card. I feel like Lucy wankers forget this fact. A trump card of Lucy’s gave Mira scratches. That’s canon, I can link anyone to the pages if they disagree with canon.
If you wanna talk about how Mira is overhyped, can we all about how you overhype Lucy to absurd levels that are far beyond her feats? My God her best feat is using a trump card to defeat LASAGNE?! That’s canon.
I really do think people on this site have selective vision.
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Mirajane used Macro on Elfman because she was under Sayla's body using Take Over on Sayla. She took control of Sayla's Macro using her Take Over magic and she was inside Sayla controlling her macro when gave the order to Elfman, it's not the same from using Macro by herself (and Elfman was said to be below Mirajane's level, when I said use it on strong opponents I mean to use it on a rank S mage, ok? rs)
Woah, this is a wild fan fiction. Mira was inside Seilah and controlling Elfman from Seilah’s body? Well, no. Mira literally said with words she took control of Seilah’s Macro Curse. Where did she say she went inside Seilah and controlled Elfman from there? Huh?
If Juliet and Heine are fodder, I guess you admit your precious Lucy is fodder as well? After all, the same damage Lucy did to Mira with a TRUMP CARD, Juliet and Heine did with three basic attacks. But I guess you’re not ready for that discussion.
Mira said she underestimated Juliet and Heine and she said they were strong. Lucy attacked three Spriggan’s but she did absolutely nothing to them. None of them were impressed with Lucy’s fighting ability and she never defeated any Spriggan or any named character in the final arc. Heck, Mira herself wasn’t impressed with Lucy’s SDM nuke. Lucy can’t maintain the SDM form for long so it should do a lot of a damage, right? WRONG! It gave Mira scratches and Mira wasn’t even faxed by it.
BSS=Juliet and Heine.
BSS>Lucy. Lucy in a SDM could only give BSS a few scratches using a trump card. I feel like Lucy wankers forget this fact. A trump card of Lucy’s gave Mira scratches. That’s canon, I can link anyone to the pages if they disagree with canon.
If you wanna talk about how Mira is overhyped, can we all about how you overhype Lucy to absurd levels that are far beyond her feats? My God her best feat is using a trump card to defeat LASAGNE?! That’s canon.
I really do think people on this site have selective vision.
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Woah, this is a wild fan fiction. Mira was inside Seilah and controlling Elfman from Seilah’s body? Well, no. Mira literally said with words she took control of Seilah’s Macro Curse. Where did she say she went inside Seilah and controlled Elfman from there? Huh?
Do you not see your arguement flaw. You talk about Lucy being overhyped yet nobody said Lucy was this crazy tier or was stronger or as stronf as a Spriggan. No one said Lucy solo Madmole or Skullion. Unlike Mitajane stans who have all said this. You arr clearly deflecting because tou are pushed into a corner because you can axtually provide quality feats from Mirajane so you overhype the feats she doea have. You guys claimed Hyien and Juliet was Irene most powerful enchantment. Yet can't provide an actual or statement saying this. Yoi said Jacob wasn't weakened by closinf his eyes yet I posted a panel that flats out states otherwise. You say she could stand up against Irene just like Erza but have no actual feats to suggest such a thing. You guys said she could one shot Lucy in BSS yet clearly was proven wrong.
At the end of the day no one is overrating Lucy it is just that you Mirajane fans are overrating Mirajane so much the mere mention that Mirajane can not one shot Lucy sends you a fury rage. Also by you same logic by saying Lion maiden only took out Lissana it isnt impressive well by that same logic Ajeel sand magic and Sayla limit release power was not impressive as neither of those attacks could accomplish that against Lissana. We also know Sitri is far weaker than limit release and BSS is weaker than Sitri so by your own logic BSS is absolute trash.
People are 9verrating Mirajane because you are overhyping her enemies with false information and thinking people wont check you guys on it. It was stated Jacob takes considerable damage from such a technique and nowhere was it said Hyien and Juliet were Irene strongest enchantments. Juliet attack did nothing Lissana when she was hit by it and she failed to knock Fodder Jet and Droy out. Yet somehow these people are consider formidable.
3) Even Mirajane states that she ''gave'' the order (in the past tense), she ordered Elfman to come to her when she was using TO on Sayla's body and touching Sayla. Mirajane didn't absorb the Macro (Take Over isn't magic equals Franmalth curse that absorb ''spells''), she used it through Sayla's body when was using TO on her: https://mangabeast.com/manga/Fairy-Tail/0381-017.png
I'm not inventing it, it is in the manga. You guys should read it with attention.
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And about the argue: ''it's the same macro''.
Mirajane when uses Plutogrim form only can keep the Plutogrim power for a very few minutes, why do you think that she can use Sayla's power at the same extent as the original owner? Because do you want it?
Her macro was nerfed version of Saylas when she used it on her own.
"Is this what a REAL demon is like ?''
" How does she have all this power? I can't beat her in a straight fight"
- Mirajane Strauss about Sayla. heeheheheheheh
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"Woah, this is a wild fan fiction. Mira was inside Seilah and controlling Elfman from Seilah’s body? Well, no. Mira literally said with words she took control of Seilah’s Macro Curse. Where did she say she went inside Seilah and controlled Elfman from there? Huh?"
I put the manga scenes above. She touched Saylas using Take Over and was able to control her macro and giver an order to Elfman and she did that just while was touching Sayla and using TO on her. Mirajane didn't absorb Macro. Do you guys forget that she had to punch Sayla to save Erza and others from Sayla's control? If she had absorbed the macro, she would just free them using the absorbed curse. LOL
Take Over didn't absorb spells normally. It absorbs only when the spell is physical body part of a creature, as a beast arm (like the arm created by Rustyose that Elfman could replicate).