Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Livinbreathineatin]

Do you not see your arguement flaw. You talk about Lucy being overhyped yet nobody said Lucy was this crazy tier or was stronger or as stronf as a Spriggan. No one said Lucy solo Madmole or Skullion. Unlike Mitajane stans who have all said this. You arr clearly deflecting because tou are pushed into a corner because you can axtually provide quality feats from Mirajane so you overhype the feats she doea have. You guys claimed Hyien and Juliet was Irene most powerful enchantment. Yet can't provide an actual or statement saying this. Yoi said Jacob wasn't weakened by closinf his eyes yet I posted a panel that flats out states otherwise. You say she could stand up against Irene just like Erza but have no actual feats to suggest such a thing. You guys said she could one shot Lucy in BSS yet clearly was proven wrong.

At the end of the day no one is overrating Lucy it is just that you Mirajane fans are overrating Mirajane so much the mere mention that Mirajane can not one shot Lucy sends you a fury rage. Also by you same logic by saying Lion maiden only took out Lissana it isnt impressive well by that same logic Ajeel sand magic and Sayla limit release power was not impressive as neither of those attacks could accomplish that against Lissana. We also know Sitri is far weaker than limit release and BSS is weaker than Sitri so by your own logic BSS is absolute trash.

People are 9verrating Mirajane because you are overhyping her enemies with false information and thinking people wont check you guys on it. It was stated Jacob takes considerable damage from such a technique and nowhere was it said Hyien and Juliet were Irene strongest enchantments. Juliet attack did nothing Lissana when she was hit by it and she failed to knock Fodder Jet and Droy out. Yet somehow these people are consider formidable.

This will be my last reply regarding this topic because nobody is changing anybody’s mind about anything until we see things happening in the upcoming chapters.

I’m pretty sure I never made any of those claims so those don’t apply to me lol. When did I say Jacob wasn’t weakened by closing his eyes????

Mira hasn’t even nuked Lucy yet in BSS. Just because she hasn’t one shot Lucy yet doesn’t mean she’s unable to.

Ajeel was weakened when he fought Elfman and Lisanna AND Elfman was obviously the one that put most of the work in against him because he was the one with the sand beast and he’s actually strong. Seilah never directly attacked Lisanna, she was just thrown around in the background. Otherwise Lucy’s SDM>Limit release yet Lucy’s SDM gave Mira in her weakest form SCRATCHES whilst limit release slapped her right out of Sitri.

I never made these claims so idk what to tell you. Also, the slime Juliet used against Droy and Lisanna was not acidic. The slime she used against BSS was. That’s as clear as day if you read the chapter. Droy and Lisanna were never burning from having the slime on their body, and Juliet one shot Droy with a kick lol.

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To Mirajane blind fãs who said that I was making a fanfic:

1) Mirajane makes physical touch with Sayla trying to use Take Over on her: https://mangabeast.com/manga/Fairy-Tail/0381-014.png

2) Sayla felt Mirajane inside her, she felt a ''drained power sensation'' (and she even said ''DON'T TOUCH ME!" and drove Mirajane away) https://mangabeast.com/manga/Fairy-Tail/0381-015.png

3) Even Mirajane states that she ''gave'' the order (in the past tense), she ordered Elfman to come to her when she was using TO on Sayla's body and touching Sayla. Mirajane didn't absorb the Macro (Take Over isn't magic equals Franmalth curse that absorb ''spells''), she used it through Sayla's body when was using TO on her:
https://mangabeast.com/manga/Fairy-Tail/0381-017.png
I'm not inventing it, it is in the manga. You guys should read it with attention.

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And about the argue: ''it's the same macro''.
Mirajane when uses Plutogrim form only can keep the Plutogrim power for a very few minutes, why do you think that she can use Sayla's power at the same extent as the original owner? Because do you want it?

Her macro was nerfed version of Saylas when she used it on her own.

"Is this what a REAL demon is like ?''
" How does she have all this power? I can't beat her in a straight fight"

- Mirajane Strauss about Sayla. heeheheheheheh

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"Woah, this is a wild fan fiction. Mira was inside Seilah and controlling Elfman from Seilah’s body? Well, no. Mira literally said with words she took control of Seilah’s Macro Curse. Where did she say she went inside Seilah and controlled Elfman from there? Huh?"

I put the manga scenes above. She touched Saylas using Take Over and was able to control her macro and giver an order to Elfman and she did that just while was touching Sayla and using TO on her. Mirajane didn't absorb Macro. Do you guys forget that she had to punch Sayla to save Erza and others from Sayla's control? If she had absorbed the macro, she would just free them using the absorbed curse. LOL
Take Over didn't absorb spells normally. It absorbs only when the spell is physical body part of a creature, as a beast arm (like the arm created by Rustyose that Elfman could replicate).

None of that is confirmation about what you said. All that tells us is that the Takeover was successful and Mira took control of Macro. Mira made physical contact to take control of the ability. Also, Mira punched Seilah instead because otherwise it would be a back and forth of both of them using Macro. It would be a never ending battle of just giving order.

 

[Jhonatas Fernandes]

Conclusion: Mirajane fans should read all the manga again and read it with the official translation.

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" None of that is confirmation about what you said. All that tells us is that the Takeover was successful and Mira took control of Macro. Mira made physical contact to take control of the ability. Also, Mira punched Seilah instead because otherwise it would be a back and forth of both of them using Macro. It would be a never ending battle of just giving order."



Omg, are you blind enough to EVER think that Mirajane absorbed the macro? Why does she need to transform in Mirajane Sayla to use Macro nowadays if she already has it in human form? Because she loves to spend mp without being needed, right? *_*
Since when Take Over absorbs spells/curses?

I'm done. Mirajane fans are more alienated than I thought.

 

[Walkyrien]

And about the argue: ''it's the same macro''.
Mirajane when uses Plutogrim form only can keep the Plutogrim power for a very few minutes, why do you think that she can use Sayla's power at the same extent as the original owner? Because do you want it?

Her macro was nerfed version of Saylas when she used it on her own.

I still don't know where you are getting at. It's still the same macro. There's no nerfing happened. Does it really hurt to accept that?

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I'm done. Mirajane fans are more alienated than I thought.

Coming from you. Literally wasted a lot of time for this kind of response. Just stop talking if you can't have a civil argument.

 

[WoWfan]

Just one final question, Who is stronger, Mira or Mystogan?

 

[WoWfan]

I will take that as Mystogan, so we would scale him to the destruction of Magnolia which wild be around city at the time, likely higher

 

[Ebony Maw]

Just one final question, Who is stronger, Mira or Mystogan?

At the time? Probably Mira tbh

Mystogan was powerful, especially since he only used Holder Magic, but he didn't really get any amazing on-panel feats. His best feat is either hanging with Laxus for a bit (which isn't amazing because Laxus wasn't even being that serious) or putting the guild to sleep.

If we're allowing for hype off-panel feats though, then I'd give it to Mystogan. Taking out every other Phantom branch was mental!

Mystogan got done dirty tbh, this might be a controversial opinion but these days I think it should have been Natsu and Gajeel vs Laxus first and have Mystogan vs Laxus as the closing battle of the arc.

 

[Seven777]

Mystogan is fodder by todays standards, sorry. At best he's Elfman tier

 

[WoWfan]

He managed to match that of Laxus’ attacks though, even then, he managed to hold back a spell that causes a massive rainstorm and the destruction of Magnolia, it even physically took it’s toll on him even without magic, so that speaks volumes

And destroying Magnolia would be around 7 megatons of TNT, that is over 300 times the energy Of Nagasaki

 

[Ebony Maw]

Mystogan is fodder by todays standards, sorry. At best he's Elfman tier

Even that is being too generous IMO,

Elfman (although I feel its complete BS that this happened) did somehow defeat Ajeel with Lisanna. F in chat for S12 hype.

 

[WoWfan]

Mystogan matched that of Laxus who would be or than enough to be City Busters, even dira to withstand it back then

 

[Jhonatas Fernandes]

Mirajane is stronger than Mystogan, of course.
What about Mirajane or Jura? Who is stronger?

 

[WoWfan]

You are talking before BoFT? Or after

 

[Ebony Maw]

Mirajane is stronger than Mystogan, of course.
What about Mirajane or Jura? Who is stronger?

We talking current, GMG or OS?

If we're talking OS or GMG, Jura. I'm not sure how much more powerful Jura is during OS, but he's better for sure. GMG Jura should likely low-diff tbh, Mira herself said that her and Erza probably couldn't take him, and he gave Jellal and Laxus great competition in their matches.

Alvarez is by far the hardest to judge because... well, its Alvarez and nothing makes sense when it comes to power scaling. Ignoring that Mira should win, but the match would be tough than most would think IMO (though admittedly that's because I hold God Serena in pretty high regard).

 

[WoWfan]

It can make sense because we have established levels of strength to go by, average Spriggans are Country-Large Country level from Wall and Brandish, Irene, Larcade and August are stronger, and Acnologia scales to Etherion which is Multi-Continent level, he is higher when he absorbs SbT.

 

[Jhonatas Fernandes]

The real problem with Alvarez Empire is just God Serena vs Jura + Ishgal Gods.
What Mashima established is: If the Spriggan doesn't use hax, a relevant strong mage (as Erza, Gray, Laxus, etc) can at least fight the opponent without being crushed - actually, as seem in Erza vs Ajeel, Laxus vs Wahl and Gray vs Invel, the relevant rank S from Ishgal is at the same level with a Spriggan who didn't use hax. Irene, Larcade and August are called exceptions and even Larcade wasn't so Strong like August and Irene. The point outside the curve is the God Serena's fight.

 

[WoWfan]

And thy are able to hold their own against other main characters too until they gain the power to win

 

[GL_Nova]

The real problem with Alvarez Empire is just God Serena vs Jura + Ishgal Gods.
What Mashima established is: If the Spriggan doesn't use hax, a relevant strong mage (as Erza, Gray, Laxus, etc) can at least fight the opponent without being crushed - actually, as seem in Erza vs Ajeel, Laxus vs Wahl and Gray vs Invel, the relevant rank S from Ishgal is at the same level with a Spriggan who didn't use hax. Irene, Larcade and August are called exceptions and even Larcade wasn't so Strong like August and Irene. The point outside the curve is the God Serena's fight.

How is it outside the curve? We’ve established that Slayers are the stronger mages in any given match up, and he had the correct elements to give him an advantage over damn near anybody. We know for a fact Jura would be low key useless against him because of Cavern Dragon

 

[Plutogrim]

GMG Jura > Mystogan = Current Mirajane

Current Mirajane is around Edolas Erza level.

 

[LaGOAT]

GMG Jura > Mystogan = Current Mirajane

Current Mirajane is around Edolas Erza level.

Ok that’s mad disrespectful

 

[Star Frost]

GMG Jura > Mystogan = Current Mirajane

Current Mirajane is around Edolas Erza level.

Even I think that’s not true