Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

Which side are you on?

  • Team Spriggan 12

    Votes: 48 51.6%
  • Team Diabolos/Dragon Eaters

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I think only if Gray transforms into a demon due to overuse of the magic. Natsu probably should’ve told him about the seed
I mean Devil Slaying magic is basically a demon magic that slays a demon.

Just like how Gray and Skullion pointed it out that every time Gray use his ice devil Slaying magic he always demonize, the black marking, himself.

But with regards to Mirajane. She only needs to take over Gray's DeS since it is demon in nature. Just like how she take over Seilah's curse.
 
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I mean Devil Slaying magic is basically a demon magic that slays a demon.

Just like how Gray and Skullion pointed it out that every time Gray use his ice devil Slaying magic he always demonize, the black marking, himself.

But with regards to Mirajane. She only needs to take over Gray's DeS since it is demon in nature. Just like how she take over Seilah's curse.
But is that a new form tho? Like would it be her regular body with black markings?

Or does it have to be something like freed where its a full takeover.
 

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But is that a new form tho? Like would it be her regular body with black markings?

Or does it have to be something like freed where its a full takeover.
The former one i think, regular body with black markings.

And yes also a full takeover.

Just like how elfman use his take over, he can take over a beast, partially or fully.
 

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Cool list! I think my list for fairy tail is pretty close but i took into consideration the new developments in 100 YQ:
Fairy Tail
Tier S+
1. Gildarts
2. Natsu
Tier S
3. Jellal (debatable, if he joins)+(bias:))
4. Laxus (debatable)
5. Erza
6. Gray ( counters mira due to Demon slayer magic)
7. Mirajane
Tier A
8. Gajeel
9. Lucy (star dress Mix )
10. Wendy (dragon force )
Tier B
11. Elfman (werelion)
12. Juvia (debatable, she showed no power development)
13. Cana (maybe higher due to fairy glitter)
14. Freed
Tier C
15. Lisanna (Nine-tailed fox and snake form)
16. Bickslow
17. Evergreen
18. Levy (versatility)
19. Max
20. Mest
where is immortal Makarov??
 

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where is immortal Makarov??
Who's that? jk!
Well he is so old and sick he can't even stand, he even has a wheelchair😢😭let the poor old man rest he deserves it! (...i think)
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Here is a "twelve wasted cool designs and abilities" (Spriggan 12) ranking list:
Tier SS
1. August
2. Irene
Tier S+
3. Larcade
4. God serena (not historia, comparable to gildarts)
Tier S
5. Invel
6. Dimaria
7. Brandish (still waiting for her to be serious)
Tier A
8. Bloodman or Bradman
9. Wall
10. Ajeel
11. Jacob
12. Neinhart (trash!)
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And here is one for tartaros demons: (excluding neo minerva, jiema, silver (he isn't a demon) and plutogrim)

Tier S
1. Mard geer (thorn, Etherious form,Memento Mori)
Tier A
2. Kyoka (enhancement, Etherious form)
3. Seilah (macro, Etherious form)
4. Torafuzar (tenchi kaimei, Etherious form)
Tier B
5. Jackal (bomb, Etherious form)
6. Tempester (calamity, Etherious form)
7. Ezel (tenga goken, Etherious form)
8. Franmalth (absorption)
Tier C
9. Keyes (necromancer)
Tier D
10. Lamy (slippery)
 

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Spriggan rankings:

Top tier - August, Irene

High tier - DiMaria, Brandish, Larcade, God Serena

Mid tier - Bradman, Wall, Jacob

Low tier - Neinhart, Ajeel, Invel

I know a lot of people are going to be surprised with Jacob being above Invel, but Transport is way too hax. Does he suffer from a lack of long range? Yes, but if the range is less than the size of the FT guild hall, the opponent has to beat Jacob before he can clap. Certain characters can do that, but they tend to be quite impressive themselves. Did he get one-shotted by FDKM Demo Fist? Yes, but that isn't exactly bad durability when compared to other Spriggans. As for Invel, flash freezing is nice and all but the only freezing we've seen him do was when he caught Team Natsu off-guard. And we've seen flash freezing broken through before, with Ajeel breaking free from DeS ice. Outside of that what does Invel really have? Ice Slave? We've only seen it work on distracted opponents. Nameless blasts? His durability isn't anything special either. Do we even know why Gray didn't eat his ice?
@Ebony Maw Is this your alt? :heh
My boi, I may agree that Bradman was wasted but I would never say that Ajeel could low-diff him.
 

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Jacob also has physical strength too to match that of Natsu's strength, Invel would be around or higher still since he froze FDK Flames, and yes they are FLK Flames as they have the same features as when Natsu used them that the very earth is set ablaze.
 

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Why do people keep insisting that Dimaria and Brandish are top tier Spriggan when their actual showings are bottom rung? Like cool, they have nice hax...but they don’t stack up.
 

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@Jean Grey Why should Invel be so low? He was Zerefs right hand man and could create snowstorms in a large area. Plus his ice magic made Gray shiver and if Gray weren't in his emotional rage mode (plot) he would die against Invel's true ice Kamui spell. I don't see how Bloodman could be stronger? Or Wall. Dimaria and Brandish, yeah maybe both are stronger but only if their magical powers are stronger than Invel's. If not then he would beat them. I hope in the 100 years quest Brandish or someone else will tell the strength list about the S12. But I doubt it. xD

@Axiomus
Why not? Zeref would have infinite power. Of course he loses to Natsu. But that was only because of plot. Without that he could kill Natsu easily. Yeah, it's a fact that Natsu beats FH Zeref but examples like that I don't count in tier lists. Everyone knows that plot induced events are not countable. For me at least. It's just like Dragonball. 98% of the characters in this series can destroy planets. But every time when they fight each other only rocks are going to be destroyed. So without the demonstration that someone can wipe out a planet, it's a fact that these characters can't doing it? Or examples like One Piece many antagonists could kill the protagonist easily if they wanted. But again because of plot they were all beat.
But this is a little bit off topic. Sorry. Back to Zeref FH Mode. I think he could beat Acnologia, if he casts Neo Eclipse with this spell he could kill everyone in a few seconds. So how could Acnologia survive this? And even without this spell he could cast many other spells with his infinite power, just like Mavis said, infinite Etherions could beat Acnologia. Maybe he could survive this but he couldn't do anything against a endless spell. So I didn't know why not. Maybe you can explain why he is stronger than FH Zeref.

Yeah this was my fault, as I create the list I only had the image in head how Mard battles the Celestial King and the Celestial King is one of the strongest characters (now I realize that I forgot him in my list and Jellal too xD), but yeah the Dragon Eaters or some of them were stronger than Mard. But for me at least Mard is a powerful character he could be a low Spriggan tier. Because he was very powerful he only lost because of the devil slayer magic. I am sure even after the time skip between Tartaros and Alvarez he could beat many characters, in my opinion a low Spriggan too. Maybe Jacob or Neinhart or Ajeel too.

As for Azuma I put him above Neinhart because Neinhart's magic is too weak. Erza only lost because many of her former opponents were dead and because she was wounded due to the battle against Ajeel. And the three Spriggan that Neinhart summoned in the war, was a situation in this war. Who said that he could summon them whenever he wants? It's not so that Neinhart gots stronger because 3 of the Spriggan 12 dies. Neinhart had the power to do that previously too, but that doesn't mean he is stronger than Azuma, Bluenote or other old villains. Who knows whom he can summon in a battle. It's not a fact that he could summon characters every time just like he did in the war. Therefore, for me he is weaker than many others since it's a 50/50 chance for him depending on who is his opponent. In other words, what would he have done if Azuma, Kyoka and Ikaruga were alive? Erza would have beat him in a few seconds. And his own Historias? Yeah, in this time all of his comrades were alive so what would he do in such a case like this? Or in a case where someone like God Serena is alive? His magic is very risky. And without his Historias he isn't a strong opponent. A lot of characters could beat him. After the war...yeah he could summon his death comrades but could he do it every time? Because, it's cost him a lot of magic power and time(?) too. In this time he could be beaten. Maybe he could do something with his wind magic but no one knows how strong he is with it.

In the last point. You're right, I totally forgot about his DF mode. If it isn't a temporary power up he would be above both of them. But I wouldn't say that Kagura and Minerva are weaker than Warrod. Warrod is only a supporting mage with a lot of magical power, but that's all. And the other saints like Wolfheim or Hyberion are lower in my list because they didn't show anything that would put them above the others. But Jura is probably stronger than both, that's right.

@Benomaru
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Maybe you're right. Acnologia is probably stronger. That's why I put him above Acnologia only because of hype higher than Acnologia. Ignia is very arrogant so yeah in the end he would be weaker than Acnologia, but who knows, maybe he is really stronger or at least equal. But I doubt it too. It's really a shame that the Alvarez arc was rushed and had so many hax abilities. Acnologias "magic dragonslayer magic" or whatever the name is, was in my opinion the most bullshit hax power in whole Fairy Tail and one of the top 10 in Mangas overall. I'm really happy that the 5 God Dragons had only their one element and I really want to see Selene and her(?) Moon Magic. I hope it's good :)

@Akaneko Kogetsu
Thanks. Your list is cool too. :)
It's really a shame that Juvia didn't show anything new since Tartaros or a good battle. :(
I hope that she will later fight a Diabolos member and wins with new power.
 

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@Benomaru
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Maybe you're right. Acnologia is probably stronger. That's why I put him above Acnologia only because of hype higher than Acnologia. Ignia is very arrogant so yeah in the end he would be weaker than Acnologia, but who knows, maybe he is really stronger or at least equal. But I doubt it too. It's really a shame that the Alvarez arc was rushed and had so many hax abilities. Acnologias "magic dragonslayer magic" or whatever the name is, was in my opinion the most bullshit hax power in whole Fairy Tail and one of the top 10 in Mangas overall. I'm really happy that the 5 God Dragons had only their one element and I really want to see Selene and her(?) Moon Magic. I hope it's good :)
Yeah I could buy the argument that they are physically stronger now, that’s how Igneel was able to fight on par with him. But with magic, I just don’t see it. No amount of training would be able to overcome his magical hax, unless they were given a unique hax of their own, though doesn’t seem like it so far. Acnologia with his magic basically brought the dragon species to extinction, is also immune to magic, has unmeasurable magic reserves, consumed the time rift, and has a form of ultra instinct(Cobra couldn’t hear his thoughts). Mashima made probably one of the most OP characters ever, as he is a singularly amongst singularities.
 

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Yeah I could buy the argument that they are physically stronger now, that’s how Igneel was able to fight on par with him. But with magic, I just don’t see it. No amount of training would be able to overcome his magical hax, unless they were given a unique hax of their own, though doesn’t seem like it so far. Acnologia with his magic basically brought the dragon species to extinction, is also immune to magic, has unmeasurable magic reserves, consumed the time rift, and has a form of ultra instinct(Cobra couldn’t hear his thoughts). Mashima made probably one of the most OP characters ever, as he is a singularly amongst singularities.
Acnologia is stronger than FH Zeref because the only way Zeref even has a chance against him is with FH. Even then it was a 50-50, August and Irene didn't know if Zeref could beat Acno with FH, just a maybe. So even after that I don't see Zeref beating Acno. In Future Rogues timeline Acno ruled the world which means he had to destroy Alvarez and everyone else.

IMO: Very unpopular opinion but even with the terrible Bloodman showing, I want to to believe he is one of the stronger Spriggans. How would Invel touch him first? Why couldn't Bloodman just eat his ice? Bloodman could use Macro, MM, or Enhancement. Gajeel should've gotten his ass beat let's be honest. Bloodman didn't use any of those against him. Logically it would make sense as to why Bloodman could beat Invel and be up there amongst the spriggans.

Yes ik he had a lack of feats but so did all of the spriggans other than Irene and August.

I'd put Bloodman in the 5-6 category amongst spriggans if were taking a logical POV, other than that then he sucked in Alvarez.
 
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Acnologia is stronger than FH Zeref because the only way Zeref even has a chance against him is with FH. Even then it was a 50-50, August and Irene didn't know if Zeref could beat Acno with FH, just a maybe.
Zeref had a plan to take out Acnologia through the new eclipse, no guarantee though. In a clear one on one, I think Acnologia takes it
 

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@Axiomus
Why not? Zeref would have infinite power. Of course he loses to Natsu. But that was only because of plot. Without that he could kill Natsu easily. Yeah, it's a fact that Natsu beats FH Zeref but examples like that I don't count in tier lists. Everyone knows that plot induced events are not countable. For me at least. It's just like Dragonball. 98% of the characters in this series can destroy planets. But every time when they fight each other only rocks are going to be destroyed. So without the demonstration that someone can wipe out a planet, it's a fact that these characters can't doing it? Or examples like One Piece many antagonists could kill the protagonist easily if they wanted. But again because of plot they were all beat.
But this is a little bit off topic. Sorry. Back to Zeref FH Mode. I think he could beat Acnologia, if he casts Neo Eclipse with this spell he could kill everyone in a few seconds. So how could Acnologia survive this? And even without this spell he could cast many other spells with his infinite power, just like Mavis said, infinite Etherions could beat Acnologia. Maybe he could survive this but he couldn't do anything against a endless spell. So I didn't know why not. Maybe you can explain why he is stronger than FH Zeref.

Yeah this was my fault, as I create the list I only had the image in head how Mard battles the Celestial King and the Celestial King is one of the strongest characters (now I realize that I forgot him in my list and Jellal too xD), but yeah the Dragon Eaters or some of them were stronger than Mard. But for me at least Mard is a powerful character he could be a low Spriggan tier. Because he was very powerful he only lost because of the devil slayer magic. I am sure even after the time skip between Tartaros and Alvarez he could beat many characters, in my opinion a low Spriggan too. Maybe Jacob or Neinhart or Ajeel too.

As for Azuma I put him above Neinhart because Neinhart's magic is too weak. Erza only lost because many of her former opponents were dead and because she was wounded due to the battle against Ajeel. And the three Spriggan that Neinhart summoned in the war, was a situation in this war. Who said that he could summon them whenever he wants? It's not so that Neinhart gots stronger because 3 of the Spriggan 12 dies. Neinhart had the power to do that previously too, but that doesn't mean he is stronger than Azuma, Bluenote or other old villains. Who knows whom he can summon in a battle. It's not a fact that he could summon characters every time just like he did in the war. Therefore, for me he is weaker than many others since it's a 50/50 chance for him depending on who is his opponent. In other words, what would he have done if Azuma, Kyoka and Ikaruga were alive? Erza would have beat him in a few seconds. And his own Historias? Yeah, in this time all of his comrades were alive so what would he do in such a case like this? Or in a case where someone like God Serena is alive? His magic is very risky. And without his Historias he isn't a strong opponent. A lot of characters could beat him. After the war...yeah he could summon his death comrades but could he do it every time? Because, it's cost him a lot of magic power and time(?) too. In this time he could be beaten. Maybe he could do something with his wind magic but no one knows how strong he is with it.

In the last point. You're right, I totally forgot about his DF mode. If it isn't a temporary power up he would be above both of them. But I wouldn't say that Kagura and Minerva are weaker than Warrod. Warrod is only a supporting mage with a lot of magical power, but that's all. And the other saints like Wolfheim or Hyberion are lower in my list because they didn't show anything that would put them above the others. But Jura is probably stronger than both, that's right.
I never consider the argument "he only lose because of plot" to be a valid one when power-ranking. Zeref lost because his attack couldn't overpower Natsu's. The reason given for that being the case was that Natsu's flames were hot enough to burn Zeref's magic and time itself. While Zeref has infinite magic power, the power behind individual attacks are finite. The power behind Natsu's attacks, including the attack that beat Zeref, is also finite. I don't rank character based on what I think they're capable of. I rank them based on what they've shown. So while it's theoretically possible for Zeref to spam etherion, unless he actually pulls it off it's not something I considered to be part of his arsenal. Remember, Mavis technically had infinite magic power the whole time, and she was never a top tier. If we took the version of Natsu that beat Zeref and pit him up against Acnologia, I see no reason why Acnologia wouldn't beat Natsu. Even if Natsu's flames are hot enough to burn time, they are still magic and Acnologia is immune to magic. There's no guarantee that those flames could hurt Acnologia. On the flip side, Acnologia could bite chunks out of Natsu. Or swallow him whole for a power-up.

Neo Eclipse is a special case. Zeref is not so much fighting Acnologia direct as he is going back in time, and avoiding Acnologia altogether. Zeref was going to go back in time and fight Acnologia before he became strong, which would have been when Acnologia was still a doctor. That's technically a win, but it's not really what power ranking is really about.

I understand that a lot of characters can knock out Neinhart. That said, Neinhart was able to recreate all of Azuma's powers with a historia, and then some. He even created historia of Hades, and people stronger than Azuma. Regardless of who Neinhart faces in battle, he always has the option of creating Historia from the people that he personally knew. So the Spriggans are fair game. I can't see Azuma fighting his way past all of Neinhart's historias, and then beating up Neinhart himself.

I can somewhat see your reasoning for putting Kagura above Warrod.
 

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Zeref had a plan to take out Acnologia through the new eclipse, no guarantee though. In a clear one on one, I think Acnologia takes it
Like you said no guarantee. If you really think about it, the entire Alvarez arc was just a giant "how do we beat acnologia" arc. That alone is why I'd definitely have Acno>>Zeref
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@Jean Grey Why should Invel be so low? He was Zerefs right hand man and could create snowstorms in a large area. Plus his ice magic made Gray shiver and if Gray weren't in his emotional rage mode (plot) he would die against Invel's true ice Kamui spell. I don't see how Bloodman could be stronger? Or Wall. Dimaria and Brandish, yeah maybe both are stronger but only if their magical powers are stronger than Invel's. If not then he would beat them. I hope in the 100 years quest Brandish or someone else will tell the strength list about the S12. But I doubt it. xD

@Axiomus
Why not? Zeref would have infinite power. Of course he loses to Natsu. But that was only because of plot. Without that he could kill Natsu easily. Yeah, it's a fact that Natsu beats FH Zeref but examples like that I don't count in tier lists. Everyone knows that plot induced events are not countable. For me at least. It's just like Dragonball. 98% of the characters in this series can destroy planets. But every time when they fight each other only rocks are going to be destroyed. So without the demonstration that someone can wipe out a planet, it's a fact that these characters can't doing it? Or examples like One Piece many antagonists could kill the protagonist easily if they wanted. But again because of plot they were all beat.
But this is a little bit off topic. Sorry. Back to Zeref FH Mode. I think he could beat Acnologia, if he casts Neo Eclipse with this spell he could kill everyone in a few seconds. So how could Acnologia survive this? And even without this spell he could cast many other spells with his infinite power, just like Mavis said, infinite Etherions could beat Acnologia. Maybe he could survive this but he couldn't do anything against a endless spell. So I didn't know why not. Maybe you can explain why he is stronger than FH Zeref.

Yeah this was my fault, as I create the list I only had the image in head how Mard battles the Celestial King and the Celestial King is one of the strongest characters (now I realize that I forgot him in my list and Jellal too xD), but yeah the Dragon Eaters or some of them were stronger than Mard. But for me at least Mard is a powerful character he could be a low Spriggan tier. Because he was very powerful he only lost because of the devil slayer magic. I am sure even after the time skip between Tartaros and Alvarez he could beat many characters, in my opinion a low Spriggan too. Maybe Jacob or Neinhart or Ajeel too.

As for Azuma I put him above Neinhart because Neinhart's magic is too weak. Erza only lost because many of her former opponents were dead and because she was wounded due to the battle against Ajeel. And the three Spriggan that Neinhart summoned in the war, was a situation in this war. Who said that he could summon them whenever he wants? It's not so that Neinhart gots stronger because 3 of the Spriggan 12 dies. Neinhart had the power to do that previously too, but that doesn't mean he is stronger than Azuma, Bluenote or other old villains. Who knows whom he can summon in a battle. It's not a fact that he could summon characters every time just like he did in the war. Therefore, for me he is weaker than many others since it's a 50/50 chance for him depending on who is his opponent. In other words, what would he have done if Azuma, Kyoka and Ikaruga were alive? Erza would have beat him in a few seconds. And his own Historias? Yeah, in this time all of his comrades were alive so what would he do in such a case like this? Or in a case where someone like God Serena is alive? His magic is very risky. And without his Historias he isn't a strong opponent. A lot of characters could beat him. After the war...yeah he could summon his death comrades but could he do it every time? Because, it's cost him a lot of magic power and time(?) too. In this time he could be beaten. Maybe he could do something with his wind magic but no one knows how strong he is with it.

In the last point. You're right, I totally forgot about his DF mode. If it isn't a temporary power up he would be above both of them. But I wouldn't say that Kagura and Minerva are weaker than Warrod. Warrod is only a supporting mage with a lot of magical power, but that's all. And the other saints like Wolfheim or Hyberion are lower in my list because they didn't show anything that would put them above the others. But Jura is probably stronger than both, that's right.

@Benomaru
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Maybe you're right. Acnologia is probably stronger. That's why I put him above Acnologia only because of hype higher than Acnologia. Ignia is very arrogant so yeah in the end he would be weaker than Acnologia, but who knows, maybe he is really stronger or at least equal. But I doubt it too. It's really a shame that the Alvarez arc was rushed and had so many hax abilities. Acnologias "magic dragonslayer magic" or whatever the name is, was in my opinion the most bullshit hax power in whole Fairy Tail and one of the top 10 in Mangas overall. I'm really happy that the 5 God Dragons had only their one element and I really want to see Selene and her(?) Moon Magic. I hope it's good :)

@Akaneko Kogetsu
Thanks. Your list is cool too. :)
It's really a shame that Juvia didn't show anything new since Tartaros or a good battle. :(
I hope that she will later fight a Diabolos member and wins with new power.
Aside from everything else tho.....I'm interested as to why you put Sting, Minerva and Kagura all above Gajeel.

I don't see any way those three in a one on one could take the battle to above a mid diff win for Gajeel.
 

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Right now FT rankings.
Obviously a lot of stuff changes when characters fight get feats n shit, hype from author, portrayal etc
but for now these are FT Guild rankings+ Jellal (who is pretty much a ft guild mage)

1)Gildartz
2)Natsu
3)Laxus
4)Jellal
5)Erza
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See as much as I hate Laxus, I have him ahead of Jellal. I was not impressed with Jellal who was oneshotted by Neinhart.

6)Gray
7)Gajeel
8)Mirajane/Makarov
9)Wendy DF
10)Freed/Juvia/Lucy/Elfman
Is this all at strongest or base??
 

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Mostly strongest outside of Natsu.
For example at their strongest nakama plot Natsu would be top.
OK cuz I agree but I'd put Gajeel tied with Gray.

Yea Natsu I agree
 

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I put Gajeel below as I have Gray ahead when they are at their peak.
To me he has shown more impressive feats, but DF Gajeel should give Gray a tough fight.
Yea I see where ur coming from but Gajeel is a side character and I don't rate Darkness Gray that high high anyways.

I don't see Gray as such a huge powerhouse in the anime.
 

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I rank Darkness Gray with POF above normal Erza level but below She's Nakama Erza level.

Anime doesn't really portray many character's strength. I stick to Manga.
Well tbh in a 1v1 with no BS I don't put that many characters a powerhouses.

I've only watched the last season.

Everything else I read
 

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You should've read the chapters instead of watching last season.
They fucked up many times.
Oh I read both. The END and GRAY fight pissed me off harf
 

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There were way worser fights than that in the last arc.

Erza/Wendy vs Irene
August vs Gildartz
Natsu vs Zeref
DS vs Acnologia
Laxus vs Wahl
Laxus vs Wahl I likes


I LOVED august vs gildarts
 
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