Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Raven]

I think he just didn't predict her to dodge, more like underestimating her in drunk condition. I wonder if Cana will ever get to Gildarts level. She still have his genes

 

[Axiomus]

I must be weird but I really don't see how he was arrogant to think he could one-shot drunk Cana.

If someone asked you prior to this chapter if Gray could one-punch a drunk Cana would you really have responded "drunk Cana dodges"? From everything Gray has done and from the lack of serious things Cana has done (not to mention a drunk Cana) I would have said he could pull off the one-punch.

Sorry for taking this into another thread btw, this seems like a purely power-based discussion and I don't want to pointlessly talk about this in the chapter thread. Can't believe we're actually talking about a drunk character in power levels lmao, Fairy Tail is a wild manga.

Hindsight is 20/20.

I probably wouldn't have said Cana dodges. Then again when I think of Gray oneshotting Cana, I'm thinking of him using actual attacks. I wouldn't expect a regular punch to oneshot Cana regardless, unless Gray was amped by some sort of POF. Maybe arrogant isn't the right word, but he underestimate what it would take to take out Cana.

 

[sharkai]

What do you mean? I just told you. When Wahl entered the city he cancelled Freed's Jutsu Shiki so he and his soldiers could infiltrate Magnolia, foreshadowing Freed's plan to use that ability to cure Laxus. There's even a mini flashback in the chapter where Laxus does it.

Sorry for the late reply

What does freed rune has to do with anti magic particles
Freed rune are just magic
Anti magic particle are for curses and are opposite of ethernano or something

I cant find laxus using runes. Might have missed it.
But i do remember people arguing why wahl can remove anti magic particles from laxus, since there is no relation between runes and anti magic particle.
Wahl uses magic not curses
Sooo

May i ask you did you expect laxus to use runes before laxus vs wahl

All i predicted that either laxus will get help or laxus will use nakama speech and wahl will go something like power overload, thus showing laxus overpowered through wahl immunity.

Instead laxus cured himself, i still dont know how. And used such a lightening with pof which wahl couldnt recognize. Making me believe laxus exploited wahl weakness and this was not power feat.

 

[Seven777]

Sorry for the late reply

What does freed rune has to do with anti magic particles
Freed rune are just magic
Anti magic particle are for curses and are opposite of ethernano or something

I cant find laxus using runes. Might have missed it.
But i do remember people arguing why wahl can remove anti magic particles from laxus, since there is no relation between runes and anti magic particle.
Wahl uses magic not curses
Sooo

May i ask you did you expect laxus to use runes before laxus vs wahl

All i predicted that either laxus will get help or laxus will use nakama speech and wahl will go something like power overload, thus showing laxus overpowered through wahl immunity.

Instead laxus cured himself, i still dont know how. And used such a lightening with pof which wahl couldnt recognize. Making me believe laxus exploited wahl weakness and this was not power feat.

No prob, don't really know or remember what this conversation is about though.

So? It was later revealed that MBPs are also used for making Jutsu Shikis. I assume since they're "magic barrier" particles, they are used for Freed's magical barriers aka Jutsu Shikis. MBPs aren't the opposite of Ethernano, they just feed on it.

He draws em on the ground when he fights Wahl. Why would Wahl using magic mean he can't nullify MBPs?

Nope, why would I? I expected that he knew how to though, like Evergreen did.

Wahl had no weakness, Laxus simply overpowered his immunity with magic that surpasses what he was immune to.

 

[sharkai]

Lol
Weak heart
Look like laxus>erza right now


I have a question for everyone
Where do people rank Alvarez laxus
Alot of people believe he can one shot average springgans
Even kill them

Laxus can casually kill ajeel
Laxus can one shot kill wahl

So how strong is he?
Can serena one shot kill wahl or ajeel
Can August or irene

How about good guys
Can laxus one shot kill mirajane, gajeel, erza, gray
Or can he just one shot them

 

[Seven777]

Lol
Weak heart
Look like laxus>erza right now


I have a question for everyone
Where do people rank Alvarez laxus
Alot of people believe he can one shot average springgans
Even kill them

Laxus can casually kill ajeel
Laxus can one shot kill wahl

So how strong is he?
Can serena one shot kill wahl or ajeel
Can August or irene

How about good guys
Can laxus one shot kill mirajane, gajeel, erza, gray
Or can he just one shot them

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Most spriggans get oneshot, Ajeel and Wahl get outright killed. FDK Natsu, Jellal and Gildarts could probably do the same or similar.
God Serena can't oneshot shit, August and Eileen can. August oneshot Brandish with a sleep spell and blocked an attack capable of oneshotting Ajeel. Eileen breaking Erza's bones is more impressive than oneshotting a spriggan.

No Laxus can't oneshot any of them because all of them are stronger than spriggans. Even if they were weaker, their endurance would still be cleanly above any spriggan bar the top two.

 

[sharkai]

No prob, don't really know or remember what this conversation is about though.

So? It was later revealed that MBPs are also used for making Jutsu Shikis. I assume since they're "magic barrier" particles, they are used for Freed's magical barriers aka Jutsu Shikis. MBPs aren't the opposite of Ethernano, they just feed on it.

He draws em on the ground when he fights Wahl. Why would Wahl using magic mean he can't nullify MBPs?

Nope, why would I? I expected that he knew how to though, like Evergreen did.

Wahl had no weakness, Laxus simply overpowered his immunity with magic that surpasses what he was immune to.

Erm
I think it was about people using other people magic to change the tide of the fight. And whether it should be called an ass pull or not


Feed on them.
So mbs feeds on magic particles
Wahl uses magic
Shouldn't mbs just feed on his magic as well
Instead of being removed


"Laxus simply overpowered his immunity with magic that surpasses what he was immune to."

Yes, that was what i was expecting to happen in the fight. I was also expecting wahl to use word like over load capacity or too much
Sadly all i got was unrecognized or something
Which made me wonder was red lightening even laxus most powerful move or just a move laxus knew which wahl wasnt immune to.
Kind of like gildard last move against august. Does it has to be gildarts most powerful move or he just using it because its a holder type and august cant nulify it

 

[Seven777]

Erm
I think it was about people using other people magic to change the tide of the fight. And whether it should be called an ass pull or not


Feed on them.
So mbs feeds on magic particles
Wahl uses magic
Shouldn't mbs just feed on his magic as well
Instead of being removed


"Laxus simply overpowered his immunity with magic that surpasses what he was immune to."

Yes, that was what i was expecting to happen in the fight. I was also expecting wahl to use word like over load capacity or too much
Sadly all i got was unrecognized or something
Which made me wonder was red lightening even laxus most powerful move or just a move laxus knew which wahl wasnt immune to.
Kind of like gildard last move against august. Does it has to be gildarts most powerful move or he just using it because its a holder type and august cant nulify it

What difference does it make if it someone elses, their own, or something new? If they can use it then its theirs. Don't really care though, the Wahl fight was contrived nonsense.

Unless the cancellation of the magic Wahl uses supersedes the MBPs feeding properties. Or the MP in the spell Wahl used is just higher than the amount of MBPs left in Laxus' body.

I assume if it's "Lightning that surpasses lightning" it's stronger than Laxus' other spells, cause they're you know... lightning. But who knows, Alvarez was a mess. As for Gildart's, I would assume that it's just a holder version of his regular crushing evil spreading truth, though it has flame effects so again, who knows.

 

[sharkai]

Most spriggans get oneshot, Ajeel and Wahl get outright killed. FDK Natsu, Jellal and Gildarts could probably do the same or similar.
God Serena can't oneshot shit, August and Eileen can. August oneshot Brandish with a sleep spell and blocked an attack capable of oneshotting Ajeel. Eileen breaking Erza's bones is more impressive than oneshotting a spriggan.

No Laxus can't oneshot any of them because all of them are stronger than spriggans. Even if they were weaker, their endurance would still be cleanly above any spriggan bar the top two.

Not so simple
Laxus can casually kill ajeel
First hit laxus did on wahl killed him

Normal springgans didnt die, and good guys needed alot of work to put them down. Pof sometimes was also involved. Strongest moves were also used

Jellal cant. His charged up GC only knocked out nienhart, the guy with the weakest durability apparently. How is he killing ajeel with a non charged no name spell

Why do only good guys have better durability or endurance. This seems unfair and to me its seems based on their appearance. Bad guys of one arc only appear in that arc, they obviously will have less feats

I mean think about it
In phantom arc
Would you have said erza has better durability or endurance than jose
Or in heaven arc natsu had better durability or endurance than jellal
And now mira who many people dont even put on springgan tier to have better durability than them

I can make it worse
In gmg
Erza having better durability or endurance than jura

 

[Seven777]

Not so simple
Laxus can casually kill ajeel
First hit laxus did on wahl killed him

Normal springgans didnt die, and good guys needed alot of work to put them down. Pof sometimes was also involved. Strongest moves were also used

Jellal cant. His charged up GC only knocked out nienhart, the guy with the weakest durability apparently. How is he killing ajeel with a non charged no name spell

Why do only good guys have better durability or endurance. This seems unfair and to me its seems based on their appearance. Bad guys of one arc only appear in that arc, they obviously will have less feats

I mean think about it
In phantom arc
Would you have said erza has better durability or endurance than jose
Or in heaven arc natsu had better durability or endurance than jellal
And now mira who many people dont even put on springgan tier to have better durability than them

I can make it worse
In gmg
Erza having better durability or endurance than jura

What's not simple? That spriggans suck? Seems pretty simple to me.

PoF is always used, it's FT. Strongest spells being used is a good thing.
Jellal probably could, if he used Altaris. I doubt Ajeel is that much better than Neinhart, he lost to Elfman and Lisanna. He got lucky with Erza. As for the spell being no named, sure, was pretty big though.

Because that's just the way it is. Lucy has durability on the level of some spriggans. It's unfair but that's how it goes, maybe they just don't have enough motivation.
Why would Erza have better durability than Jose? Erza didn't tank Fairy Law.
Why would Natsu have better durability than Jellal? Jellal tanked a whole swathe of Natsu'named FD attacks effortlessly, on top of Erza's while he fought her at half strength. Then he even took a few hits from Dragon Force without going down. What did Natsu tank? A few hits from Meteor and Grand Chariot.
Why would Erza have better durability than Jura? She never fought anyone Laxus tier. She probably does though, because she's a part of FT.
Mira is spriggan tier imo, but even if she wasn't she has significantly better durability because she is a FT member.

 

[Axiomus]

Lol
Weak heart
Look like laxus>erza right now


I have a question for everyone
Where do people rank Alvarez laxus
Alot of people believe he can one shot average springgans
Even kill them

Laxus can casually kill ajeel
Laxus can one shot kill wahl

So how strong is he?
Can serena one shot kill wahl or ajeel
Can August or irene

How about good guys
Can laxus one shot kill mirajane, gajeel, erza, gray
Or can he just one shot them

Laxus can kill any of the Spriggans except August and Irene with one good hit. Wall is probably the strongest Spriggan there is in terms of hand to hand combat, and Laxus was able to kill him with the first attack that Wall wasn't immune to.

God Serena is probably great at hand to hand combat, because he's a dragon slayer. However, I wouldn't put him above Wall on a basis of feats. So no, I wouldn't say he could oneshot Ajeel or Wall, let alone kill them in one hit.

August and Irene would smash any of the Spriggans.

Laxus wouldn't kill any of the core Fairy Tail members, but he could oneshot them with a nuke. More likely he beats them in low or mid difficulty, depending on the character.

 

[sharkai]

Laxus can kill any of the Spriggans except August and Irene with one good hit. Wall is probably the strongest Spriggan there is in terms of hand to hand combat, and Laxus was able to kill him with the first attack that Wall wasn't immune to.

God Serena is probably great at hand to hand combat, because he's a dragon slayer. However, I wouldn't put him above Wall on a basis of feats. So no, I wouldn't say he could oneshot Ajeel or Wall, let alone kill them in one hit.

August and Irene would smash any of the Spriggans.

Laxus wouldn't kill any of the core Fairy Tail members, but he could oneshot them with a nuke. More likely he beats them in low or mid difficulty, depending on the character.

So laxus was august tier? Because he can low diff any springgans other than top two
How far is laxus from august power wise

Can laxus one shot mira, gray, erza and gajeel

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What's not simple? That spriggans suck? Seems pretty simple to me.

PoF is always used, it's FT. Strongest spells being used is a good thing.
Jellal probably could, if he used Altaris. I doubt Ajeel is that much better than Neinhart, he lost to Elfman and Lisanna. He got lucky with Erza. As for the spell being no named, sure, was pretty big though.

Because that's just the way it is. Lucy has durability on the level of some spriggans. It's unfair but that's how it goes, maybe they just don't have enough motivation.
Why would Erza have better durability than Jose? Erza didn't tank Fairy Law.
Why would Natsu have better durability than Jellal? Jellal tanked a whole swathe of Natsu'named FD attacks effortlessly, on top of Erza's while he fought her at half strength. Then he even took a few hits from Dragon Force without going down. What did Natsu tank? A few hits from Meteor and Grand Chariot.
Why would Erza have better durability than Jura? She never fought anyone Laxus tier. She probably does though, because she's a part of FT.
Mira is spriggan tier imo, but even if she wasn't she has significantly better durability because she is a FT member.

Springgans sucks lol

Lucy having more durability and endurance than majority springgans to me mean someone of tenrou gray level can have durability and endurance above tenrou bluenote tier

Jose never tanked fairy law either. Erza was shown to below him. That why i always assumed jose would have better durability than erza. But if springgans have lower durability than weaker characters means weaker characters like lucy can have higher durability than stronger characters like jellal
Which doesn make sense

Yes natsu didnt tank as much as jellal but he also wasnt knocked
This open up a possibility of natsu having higher durability than jellal

 

[Axiomus]

So laxus was august tier? Because he can low diff any springgans other than top two
How far is laxus from august power wise

Can laxus one shot mira, gray, erza and gajeel

No, but his nuke can arguably hit as hard as most of August's attacks, with the obvious exception of attacks like Ars Magia. August has much more magic power than Laxus. We don't know exactly how much, but August is on Irene's level. The main thing about August is that he can negate caster magic, so Laxus will always have an inherent disadvantage going up against August.

I think it's far more likely that he beats them in low or mid diff than a oneshot.

 

[Ramen]

My non bias random review:

Laxus would Mid Diff Mira

Mid diff Erza

Lower end of Mid diff against Gray

Low Diff Gajeel

 

[sharkai]

My non bias random review:

Laxus would Mid Diff Mira

Mid diff Erza

Lower end of Mid diff against Gray

Low Diff Gajeel

This is interesting
Especially since laxus can one hit kill majority of the springgan

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No, but his nuke can arguably hit as hard as most of August's attacks, with the obvious exception of attacks like Ars Magia. August has much more magic power than Laxus. We don't know exactly how much, but August is on Irene's level. The main thing about August is that he can negate caster magic, so Laxus will always have an inherent disadvantage going up against August.

I think it's far more likely that he beats them in low or mid diff than a oneshot.

Ars magia would have destroyed Mongolia
Just like thunder palace

So basically laxus is august tier. And only reason august will survive is because of his hax

 

[Ramen]

This is interesting
Especially since laxus can one hit kill majority of the springgan

His hardest match up is Erza.

Mira still lacks feats.

People wank Gray and I don't see how he will compete with Laxus.

Gajeel is self explanatory

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This is interesting
Especially since laxus can one hit kill majority of the springgan

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Ars magia would have destroyed Mongolia
Just thunder palace

So basically laxus is august tier. And only reason august will survive is because of his hax

Laxus is no where near August tier

 

[Axiomus]

Ars magia would have destroyed Mongolia
Just like thunder palace

So basically laxus is august tier. And only reason august will survive is because of his hax

Ars Magia would have destroyed Fiore.

 

[sharkai]

His hardest match up is Erza.

Mira still lacks feats.

People wank Gray and I don't see how he will compete with Laxus.

Gajeel is self explanatory

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Laxus is no where near August tier

laxus can casually kill ajeel. I mean causally like aconologia causal type
Erza had a high diff match against ajeel. There were complications sure but still
Shouldn't laxus be able to one shot erza

Why isnt he near august, if he can causally kill a springgan. August has no such feat. Only aconologia has such feat

Think of it this way
Nienhart lowest durability
Jellal charged a gc to knock him out

Ajeel better durability
Laxus like did a no name spell
And people think ajeel would have died.
Jellal doesnt even seems to be on laxus tier

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Ars Magia would have destroyed Fiore.

Are you sure
Panel shows August says he will take the entire world with him
Mavis says mangnolia will disappear
We only see it effect the city

 

[Seven777]

Springgans sucks lol

Lucy having more durability and endurance than majority springgans to me mean someone of tenrou gray level can have durability and endurance above tenrou bluenote tier

Jose never tanked fairy law either. Erza was shown to below him. That why i always assumed jose would have better durability than erza. But if springgans have lower durability than weaker characters means weaker characters like lucy can have higher durability than stronger characters like jellal
Which doesn make sense

Yes natsu didnt tank as much as jellal but he also wasnt knocked
This open up a possibility of natsu having higher durability than jellal

Indeed.

I doubt it, FT villains were actually good back then. When I say spriggans suck, I don't mean all FT bad guys suck, I mostly just mean spriggans suck. Though FT characters do generally have better endurance than enemies, this doesn't extend to characters who are a class above the standard enemy like Jose who had to be taken out by Makarov(the guy who could shrug off an attack that oneshot Adamantine Erza).

Not really, even if we take out the last hit that actually K.O'd Jellal, he still would have tanked significantly more than Natsu did, so his durability is better.

laxus can casually kill ajeel. I mean causally like aconologia causal type
Erza had a high diff match against ajeel. There were complications sure but still
Shouldn't laxus be able to one shot erza

Why isnt he near august, if he can causally kill a springgan. August has no such feat. Only aconologia has such feat

Think of it this way
Nienhart lowest durability
Jellal charged a gc to knock him out

Ajeel better durability
Laxus like did a no name spell
And people think ajeel would have died.
Jellal doesnt even seems to be on laxus tier

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Are you sure
Panel shows August says he will take the entire world with him
Mavis says mangnolia will disappear
We only see it effect the city

August says country.

August does have feats on par with Laxus killing a spriggan, because he effortlessly blocked that very attack. Plus he oneshot Brandish. Beating Crime Sorciere is also much better than beating a spriggan, it's better than beating multiple spriggans.

 

[sharkai]

Indeed.

I doubt it, FT villains were actually good back then. When I say spriggans suck, I don't mean all FT bad guys suck, I mostly just mean spriggans suck. Though FT characters do generally have better endurance than enemies, this doesn't extend to characters who are a class above the standard enemy like Jose who had to be taken out by Makarov(the guy who could shrug off an attack that oneshot Adamantine Erza).

Not really, even if we take out the last hit that actually K.O'd Jellal, he still would have tanked significantly more than Natsu did, so his durability is better.

August says country.

August does have feats on par with Laxus killing a spriggan, because he effortlessly blocked that very attack. Plus he oneshot Brandish. Beating Crime Sorciere is also much better than beating a spriggan, it's better than beating multiple spriggans.

It does
Jose was low or mid diff by markarov
So if mira has better durability than serena or wahl or ajeel
Then erza most likely also can have better durability than jose
You define class yourself

Again natsu wasnt knocked out. So how can you know
If high mp doesnt mean high durability
Then possibility is there natsu had better durability than jellal or maybe comparable

August nullified it most likely
Same with crime sociere
Basically august used his hax

Like Marin did
Marin low diff erza and lucy
Just like august low diff brandish

I can see nothing showing that fiore was in danger
Mavis only worried about the city
No one far away was shown. Like thay pumpkin king