Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Ramen]

It does
Jose was low or mid diff by markarov
So if mira has better durability than serena or wahl or ajeel
Then erza most likely also can have better durability than jose
You define class yourself

Again natsu wasnt knocked out. So how can you know
If high mp doesnt mean high durability
Then possibility is there natsu had better durability than jellal or maybe comparable

August nullified it most likely
Same with crime sociere
Basically august used his hax

Like Marin did
Marin low diff erza and lucy
Just like august low diff brandish

I can see nothing showing that fiore was in danger
Mavis only worried about the city
No one far away was shown. Like thay pumpkin king

Because what is Laxus gonna do? Forget just hax, when it comes to fighting August was playing around with Gildarts Aka FT strongest Wizard.

Laxus cant do that. Dropping a nuke casually on someone who got fodderized by Elfman and Lisanna doesn't put him on August level.

Erza had a high diff fight against Ajeel yes but Laxus again would mid diff Erza.

Also do you honestly believe that August wouldn't one shot most of the Spriggans

 

[GL_Nova]

Because what is Laxus gonna do? Forget just hax, when it comes to fighting August was playing around with Gildarts Aka FT strongest Wizard.

Laxus cant do that. Dropping a nuke casually on someone who got fodderized by Elfman and Lisanna doesn't put him on August level.

Erza had a high diff fight against Ajeel yes but Laxus again would mid diff Erza.

Also do you honestly believe that August wouldn't one shot most of the Spriggans

So are we going to ignore those implications? Cause Hades was my putting Laxus on Gildarts tier back on Tenrou. Makarov mentions Gildarts would have trouble with Jura, and Laxus beat him too. August is definitely at the top of their tier, but Laxus has been in August tier since Alvarez. Currently, he’s sitting comfortably in it.

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Also, let’s not forget that August acknowledged Laxus. He was clearly close enough to intervene and didn’t do so until Laxus made it necessary.

 

[Crimson Ice]

My non bias random review:

Laxus would Mid Diff Mira

Mid diff Erza

Lower end of Mid diff against Gray

Low Diff Gajeel

Why is Mira ranked above Gajeel anymore honestly? Mira is severly underwhelming. Especially since Gajeel is still seemingly relative to Natsu (base and LFD). And if we talk about DF Gajeel...whew.

 

[IamtherealMirajane]

Why is Mira ranked above Gajeel anymore honestly? Mira is seeverky underwhelming. Especially since Gajeel is still seemingly relative to Natsu (base and LFD). And if we talk about DF Gajeel...whew.

Because Mirajane has a little screen time.

By hype Mirajane is still equal to Erza.

Her Magic power alone in her Alegria form evaporated the sea. In her Satan soul she was able to Manipulate the entire river.

She oneshotted 2 Irene's lieutenant in her Alegria form. To the point that the personality enchantment was lifted (J & H tanked Satan Soul Evil explosion w/ less damage)

Lucy and Gray went on claim that Mirajane has no weaknesses that someone can exploite against her (except her siblings)

She beat a spriggan, Jacob w/o someone's help. ( although both were handicupped since Jacob was not looking and Mirajane did not use any of her takeover form until in the last minute)

She managed to hold herself in her BSS form against Skullion, who low diffed Gray ( but still this debatable since the fight was off paneled. And we havent seen Skullion use black ash and absolute ash).

 

[Seven777]

It does
Jose was low or mid diff by markarov
So if mira has better durability than serena or wahl or ajeel
Then erza most likely also can have better durability than jose
You define class yourself

Again natsu wasnt knocked out. So how can you know
If high mp doesnt mean high durability
Then possibility is there natsu had better durability than jellal or maybe comparable

August nullified it most likely
Same with crime sociere
Basically august used his hax

Like Marin did
Marin low diff erza and lucy
Just like august low diff brandish

I can see nothing showing that fiore was in danger
Mavis only worried about the city
No one far away was shown. Like thay pumpkin king

Sure, because of Fairy Law, which is why i brought it up.
No, Mira can have better durability than those three because she is as strong or stronger than those three, and because spriggan durability is trash. Erza wasn't as strong or stronger than Jose, and Phantom durability is not trash.
I don't know what you mean when you say I "define class"

Because Jellal has the feats. Doesn't matter if Natsu wasn't K.O'd, Jellal has more durability feats than Natsu because he tanked more shit than Natsu, so by feats Jellal's durability is significantly better. He was also obviously the superior mage, so by hype he has better durability too. If someone has better durability feats and durability hype, then chances are they have better durability.

Marin's abilities are situational, August's aren't. On top of that he only BFR'd Lucy and Erza, he didn't beat them. Both Erza and Lucy could solo Marin if they really wanted to. August's feats are simply better than any FT member, in fact his feats are arguably the best of anyone in the arc bar Acno.

You don't need to see it. August said he had the power to destroy a country, his peer reshaped the country, Ars Magia destroying it is pretty much fact.

 

[Ramen]

Why is Mira ranked above Gajeel anymore honestly? Mira is seeverky underwhelming. Especially since Gajeel is still seemingly relative to Natsu (base and LFD). And if we talk about DF Gajeel...whew.

I put it in a random order.

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So are we going to ignore those implications? Cause Hades was my putting Laxus on Gildarts tier back on Tenrou. Makarov mentions Gildarts would have trouble with Jura, and Laxus beat him too. August is definitely at the top of their tier, but Laxus has been in August tier since Alvarez. Currently, he’s sitting comfortably in it.

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Also, let’s not forget that August acknowledged Laxus. He was clearly close enough to intervene and didn’t do so until Laxus made it necessary.

How can Laxus be in someones tier who he he would stand no chance against?

 

[sharkai]

Because what is Laxus gonna do? Forget just hax, when it comes to fighting August was playing around with Gildarts Aka FT strongest Wizard.

Laxus cant do that. Dropping a nuke casually on someone who got fodderized by Elfman and Lisanna doesn't put him on August level.

Erza had a high diff fight against Ajeel yes but Laxus again would mid diff Erza.

Also do you honestly believe that August wouldn't one shot most of the Spriggans

The reason august was playing around was becausr of his hax
He was pretty serious in dodging cana cards though

But it does, laxus can causally kill ajeel. August has no such feat, even if i just assume he can. That still put him on laxus tier. Not above him

Sure with hax he can low diff laxus
But same can be said for brandish. If her hax works she can low diff laxus too.

If laxus can kill by one shot somebody erza had high difficulty against
He should be able to one shot erza too or low diff atleast

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Sure, because of Fairy Law, which is why i brought it up.
No, Mira can have better durability than those three because she is as strong or stronger than those three, and because spriggan durability is trash. Erza wasn't as strong or stronger than Jose, and Phantom durability is not trash.
I don't know what you mean when you say I "define class"

Because Jellal has the feats. Doesn't matter if Natsu wasn't K.O'd, Jellal has more durability feats than Natsu because he tanked more shit than Natsu, so by feats Jellal's durability is significantly better. He was also obviously the superior mage, so by hype he has better durability too. If someone has better durability feats and durability hype, then chances are they have better durability.

Marin's abilities are situational, August's aren't. On top of that he only BFR'd Lucy and Erza, he didn't beat them. Both Erza and Lucy could solo Marin if they really wanted to. August's feats are simply better than any FT member, in fact his feats are arguably the best of anyone in the arc bar Acno.

You don't need to see it. August said he had the power to destroy a country, his peer reshaped the country, Ars Magia destroying it is pretty much fact.

Your class
As in your class doesn't have to be my class
We can define class differently
Lucy for example is not in springgans class
But erza was in jose class
But that is just my categorization
Yours would be different

How do you know phantom durability wasnt trash with exception of gajeel ( you cant even hit julia and aris)
Jose was stronger than a wrecked erza. That is all we know

You are including natsu feats from heaven arc. I can include all natsu feat before first time skip and say that natsu has better durability plus endurance than jellal. He after all also faced hades when already worn out.(good guys alot of feats, bad guys no feats)

Not many have durability hype in this manga

My point is
If we dont automatically assume stronger mage would have stronger durability then comparison will become alot more complicated (its like Saying stronger mage doesnt necessarily be able to hit harder)
I mean jura was stronger than kagura during gmg. But if someone just comes and say yeah but kagura durability is higher (kagura does have durability hype, remember that war god magic that jura hyped)
It will throw the entire tier list around


Brandish magic isnt. If her hax effects laxus would you put her two tiers above laxus for being able to low diff him

August feats actually aren't. His hax is pretty impressive. But nothing else is. Is he faster than laxus or jellal. Most likely not. Does he have better durability than laxus, how would we know he nulifies stuffs and runs from cana cards. Can he hit harder than laxus, Laxus got bigger hype than him here.
Only thing going for august is his hax


I think i read that chapter from manga fox, there august said he will take the world with him. Mavis only talked about the city. I cant even see far away mountains evaporating. Sooo
Besides laxus thunder palace was two time skip away. That would have destroyed the city. If laxus could do that two time skips ago. He probably can blow entire fiore away without sacrificing himself

 

[Seven777]

Your class
As in your class doesn't have to be my class
We can define class differently
Lucy for example is not in springgans class
But erza was in jose class
But that is just my categorization
Yours would be different

How do you know phantom durability wasnt trash with exception of gajeel ( you cant even hit julia and aris)
Jose was stronger than a wrecked erza. That is all we know

You are including natsu feats from heaven arc. I can include all natsu feat before first time skip and say that natsu has better durability plus endurance than jellal. He after all also faced hades when already worn out.(good guys alot of feats, bad guys no feats)

Not many have durability hype in this manga

My point is
If we dont automatically assume stronger mage would have stronger durability then comparison will become alot more complicated (its like Saying stronger mage doesnt necessarily be able to hit harder)
I mean jura was stronger than kagura during gmg. But if someone just comes and say yeah but kagura durability is higher (kagura does have durability hype, remember that war god magic that jura hyped)
It will throw the entire tier list around


Brandish magic isnt. If her hax effects laxus would you put her two tiers above laxus for being able to low diff him

August feats actually aren't. His hax is pretty impressive. But nothing else is. Is he faster than laxus or jellal. Most likely not. Does he have better durability than laxus, how would we know he nulifies stuffs and runs from cana cards. Can he hit harder than laxus, Laxus got bigger hype than him here.
Only thing going for august is his hax


I think i read that chapter from manga fox, there august said he will take the world with him. Mavis only talked about the city. I cant even see far away mountains evaporating. Sooo
Besides laxus thunder palace was two time skip away. That would have destroyed the city. If laxus could do that two time skips ago. He probably can blow entire fiore away without sacrificing himself

Oh, that kind of class, gotcha.

Tbh I was basing my assessment purely off Gajeel. Phantom durability could be trash, I can't remember, and I don't really care.
Sure, I'm including Natsu's ToH feats, why wouldn't I? Jellal beat Natsu down to the point where he had trouble standing.

We do automatically assume stronger mage has stronger durability, that's what I mean by durability hype. It's durability that is presumed good until proven otherwise because they are a superior mage. But when feats come into play, then we can actually see what their durability is worth, sometimes it lives up to their hype, like Jellal, sometimes it doesn't, like Spriggans.

No, because I still think Laxus would oneshot her even if her magic worked.

August's feats are impressive, hax is a part of it because it's a part of his arsenal, in fact its his entire arsenal. As for if he's as fast as Jellal, he has Meteor, so yeah. Is he as durable as Laxus? He tanked Gildart's finisher and blocked Laxus' spriggan killer nuke, soooo yeah. Can he hit harder than Laxus? Probably, he put down Jellal, which is more impressive than beating a spriggan, the only question his how many hits it took. Overall the answer is yes.

August says country. He says as the most powerful member of the spriggan 12, he, August, has the power to destroy an entire country. Not that spell size means anything, it could be the size of a house and I'd still rate it above Etherion.

 

[GL_Nova]

I put it in a random order.

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How can Laxus be in someones tier who he he would stand no chance against?

Well the thing is, nothing in the story really supports that statement. Laxus was one shotting Spriggan. Our first hint at August being a badass was him stepping in to help handle one of Laxus casual attacks. Laxus should have been able to put up the same kind of resistance that Gildarts did. I mean he takes more magic from Acno than most of the rest of the cast.

 

[Ramen]

Well the thing is, nothing in the story really supports that statement. Laxus was one shotting Spriggan. Our first hint at August being a badass was him stepping in to help handle one of Laxus casual attacks. Laxus should have been able to put up the same kind of resistance that Gildarts did. I mean he takes more magic from Acno than most of the rest of the cast.

The fact that August was playing around with Gildarts clearly shows that he would play around with Laxus too.

Also Ajeel doesn't have copy/nullification magic. August destroys.

Since were talking feats, August fodders CS>>Laxus Dropping a nuke.

 

[sharkai]

Oh, that kind of class, gotcha.

Tbh I was basing my assessment purely off Gajeel. Phantom durability could be trash, I can't remember, and I don't really care.
Sure, I'm including Natsu's ToH feats, why wouldn't I? Jellal beat Natsu down to the point where he had trouble standing.

We do automatically assume stronger mage has stronger durability, that's what I mean by durability hype. It's durability that is presumed good until proven otherwise because they are a superior mage. But when feats come into play, then we can actually see what their durability is worth, sometimes it lives up to their hype, like Jellal, sometimes it doesn't, like Spriggans.

No, because I still think Laxus would oneshot her even if her magic worked.

August's feats are impressive, hax is a part of it because it's a part of his arsenal, in fact its his entire arsenal. As for if he's as fast as Jellal, he has Meteor, so yeah. Is he as durable as Laxus? He tanked Gildart's finisher and blocked Laxus' spriggan killer nuke, soooo yeah. Can he hit harder than Laxus? Probably, he put down Jellal, which is more impressive than beating a spriggan, the only question his how many hits it took. Overall the answer is yes.

August says country. He says as the most powerful member of the spriggan 12, he, August, has the power to destroy an entire country. Not that spell size means anything, it could be the size of a house and I'd still rate it above Etherion.

I see

For me hax lower the hype
Weaker mage with hax easily reach well above their power level

Like if aconologia is dragon of magic we dont know he is actually stronger than souless igneal or did he inly win because of being at disadvantaged

Same with August and gildart
Gildarts magic didnt work on him, thus it looked like august was toying with him. Even though it was basically a bad matchup for him. Kinda like laxus vs wahl

 

[Ramen]

LOL, where you getting this crap that people wank Gray? not a single soul wanks Gray at this point in time. If anything Mira gets the wanking.
Gray gets downplayed, underestimated, and dismissed.

Laxus is mid diffing Gray, but not on the lower end.
He aint low diffing Gajeel, but he's certainly low diffing Mira

Idk maybe because ive seen people say that Gray can one shot Gildarts and is on Augusts level. Yea thats major wank if you ask me. People act like Gray is a god becuase he kept up with a not fully transformed END who was also fatigued, both parties were at disadvantages.

Ive never seen anyone downplay Gray. He's always been ranked 5th in the guild power rankings from what ive seen and thats where he belongs.

Laxus is mid diffing Gray and thats a fact.

Hes definitely Low diffing Gajeel because ISD is useless against Laxus Thunder body and will take every hit of electricity because Gajeel uses Iron...

 

[IamtherealMirajane]

LOL, where you getting this crap that people wank Gray? not a single soul wanks Gray at this point in time. If anything Mira gets the wanking.
Gray gets downplayed, underestimated, and dismissed.

Laxus is mid diffing Gray, but not on the lower end.
He aint low diffing Gajeel, but he's certainly low diffing Mira

Gray lasted for about a minute against Skullion.

Mirajane has been fighting Skullion for about 7 chapters already in her BSS form.

Natsu, Lucy, Laxus and even Gray already hyped Mirajane. Even Gray claimed that Mirajane has no weakness that someone can exploite against her. Yes the same mage who has devil slaying magic. Even Gray wasnt confident on how they will deal with Mirajane and Skullion.

 

[Kouichi]

LOL, where you getting this crap that people wank Gray? not a single soul wanks Gray at this point in time. If anything Mira gets the wanking.
Gray gets downplayed, underestimated, and dismissed.

Laxus is mid diffing Gray, but not on the lower end.
He aint low diffing Gajeel, but he's certainly low diffing Mira

I agreed that Mira will be getting lowdiffed by Gray but. Really? Mira's getting wank? If anything, she tends to get downplayed because of her lacking feats. Majority in here might even say Lucy will be able take her out, or BASE Wendy. So I'm not sure where you getting at the statement wherein Mira's getting wanked (some might be but thats because she's getting downplayed for reals) because she isn't.

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

I agreed that Mira will be getting lowdiffed by Gray but. Really? Mira's getting wank? If anything, she tends to get downplayed because of her lacking feats. Majority in here might even say Lucy will be able take her out, or BASE Wendy. So I'm not sure where you getting at the statement wherein Mira's getting wanked (some might be but thats because she's getting downplayed for reals) because she isn't.

I doubt Gray will low diff her. She can give him a high diff battle without taking pof into consideration.

 

[Kouichi]

I doubt Gray will low diff her. She can give him a high diff battle without taking pof into consideration.

Gray's slayer advantage also I based Mira as her peak in Alvarez arc since she doesnt have much feats yet but let's just see how the fight will go (if there will be a fight) so that people like him should chill

 

[Demon Hunter]

Wendy is still weaker then Bluenote.

she can't fly yet

 

[IamtherealMirajane]

I have not seen any one say Gray would oneshot Gildartz or Laxus lol
END wasn't fatigued whatsoever.



Where's this proof that Gray lasted only a minute? How would you know the duration of time that went too?
Being annoyed isn't the same thing as "lack of confidence."

Skullion's kicking Mirajane's ass right now not even using the half of the stuff he used against Gray.

Natsu was interested in fighting Mira and not Jellal this chap does this mean Mira>Jellal? Fuck no.

Char words means jack shit. Feats is the best way to gauge chars power.

Gray's words are not the gospel of truth. When he said Mira has no weakness, doesn't mean she doesn't have any weakness.

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Bruh, Mira is the most wanked character here lol.
Look at the stuff in the chapter thread the way there Mira fans believe she can give Natsu a fight and is stronger than Jellal.
I don't even want to address all of the downplay down to favor Mira here either.

The difference is Gray has been low diffed while Mirajane isnt.

Why would Natsu deduce that Mirajane is one of the strongest? Why is Gray not confident of beating Mirajane? Because the author portryal about them.

One is fairy tail S Class and one is not. Thats why it was easy for Skullion to beat Gray. Than Skullion beating Mirajane's weakest form.

 

[Star Frost]

The difference is Gray has been low diffed while Mirajane isnt.

Why would Natsu deduce that Mirajane is one of the strongest? Why is Gray not confident of beating Mirajane? Because the author portryal about them.

One is fairy tail S Class and one is not. Thats why it was easy for Skullion to beat Gray. Than Skullion beating Mirajane's weakest form.

The same attacks being used on her Gray done countered. Also, Gray was low diffed by a spell that haven't been used on Mirajane yet. So until we actually see Mirajane counters that spell unlike Gray that didn't (unless there's a rematch where he ends up doing so), can't really compare and make that a reason why she's superior to him. Really I feel it's best to wait and see how the fight with Skullion goes to determine who will win.

 

[IamtherealMirajane]

The same attacks being used on her Gray done countered. Also, Gray was low diffed by a spell that haven't been used on Mirajane yet. So until we actually see Mirajane counters that spell unlike Gray that didn't (unless there's a rematch where he ends up doing so), can't really compare and make that a reason why she's superior to him. Really I feel it's best to wait and see how the fight with Skullion goes to determine who will win.

Skullion tried to attack Mirajane but she easily dodged it and that attack can turn her into ash. And Mirajane was not even using her stronger form. And each form she has can outclass satan soul.