Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[WoWfan]

Yes he could. All he had to do is use demolition fist from the beginning. The only reason he didn't was because he didn't want to damage the guild. All Makarov did was punch Jacob hard enough to send him flying from the guild. That punch shown in your link is not FDK spell. That's just Natsu's base mode punch when he's not holding back. Natsu even uses an FDK spell in that very same chapter, and he even says it.

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Ice doesn't have any tolerance to heat. Ice is just cold, so it freezes stuff. Natsu was able to melt Invel's ice with small, regular flames. Which wouldn't have been able to happen if the ice was cold enough to freeze his much hotter FDK flames. Invel even made things colder by creating a blizzard around the whole area. Natsu simply used flames that were hotter than the ring of fire he initially created, and that ring of fire is just that. A ring of fire.

The version of END that we saw is the only canon version of END, and the strongest that END ever managed to become canonically.

He could have done that to Ajeel too and he was not at the Guild hall, and Jacob was holding back too, and you don't hear him complaining, and in that position he could not fight back, that is not a fair advantage for Jacob while Natsu took advantage of it is, that is how Demolition fist looks when it is used, and did it twice without naming the spell. that is not true, that has been debunked. He could not do it right away though, so it took time so he does not tank it. even Natsu still can emit FDK flames from him at a small scale. that is still FDKM flames. no, we saw that Natsu was slowly changing overtime which means he was still getting stronger.

 

[Axiomus]

the greatness of Jacob reached even this thread

Yeah, I'm moving every post that does not involve Wendy Beslrion or Dimaria to the power ranking thread. It's getting too off topic.

 

[WoWfan]

Yes he could. All he had to do is use demolition fist from the beginning. The only reason he didn't was because he didn't want to damage the guild. All Makarov did was punch Jacob hard enough to send him flying from the guild. That punch shown in your link is not FDK spell. That's just Natsu's base mode punch when he's not holding back. Natsu even uses an FDK spell in that very same chapter, and he even says it.

Spoiler

Ice doesn't have any tolerance to heat. Ice is just cold, so it freezes stuff. Natsu was able to melt Invel's ice with small, regular flames. Which wouldn't have been able to happen if the ice was cold enough to freeze his much hotter FDK flames. Invel even made things colder by creating a blizzard around the whole area. Natsu simply used flames that were hotter than the ring of fire he initially created, and that ring of fire is just that. A ring of fire.

The version of END that we saw is the only canon version of END, and the strongest that END ever managed to become canonically.

He could have done that to Ajeel too and he was not at the Guild hall, and Jacob was holding back too, and you don't hear him complaining, and in that position he could not fight back, that is not a fair advantage for Jacob while Natsu took advantage of it is, that is how Demolition fist looks when it is used, and did it twice without naming the spell. that is not true, that has been debunked. He could not do it right away though, so it took time so he does not tank it. even Natsu still can emit FDK flames from him at a small scale. that is still FDKM flames. no, we saw that Natsu was slowly changing overtime which means he was still getting stronger.

this is a base attack

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[Vis]

the greatness of Jacob reached even this thread

Jacob is large country level, this thread is within his AOE.

Current Power Tiering:

1. Acno with SbT
2. Base Acno + 5DG
3. Igneel/Zeref
4. Spriggans/High Tier FT Members and other characters in Alvarez with Power Ups
5. DE
6. All other Dragons
7. Tartaros Members
8. Grimoire Members
9. Oracion Seis Members

Do you think Jacob can overpower Motherglare's roar with one of his attacks?
Do you think Mirajane can outrace Grandeeney zipping around Ishgar?
Do you think Dimaria in Chronos form can beat Future Rogue with his dragons?

 

[WoWfan]

Motherglare could be easily injured by an already injured and tired Natsu. so why not. Natsu caught Igneel and he is stronger than all of them, With Time Stop, it would be no problem.

 

[Axiomus]

He could have done that to Ajeel too and he was not at the Guild hall, and Jacob was holding back too, and you don't hear him complaining, and in that position he could not fight back, that is not a fair advantage for Jacob while Natsu took advantage of it is, that is how Demolition fist looks when it is used, and did it twice without naming the spell. that is not true, that has been debunked. He could not do it right away though, so it took time so he does not tank it. even Natsu still can emit FDK flames from him at a small scale. that is still FDKM flames. no, we saw that Natsu was slowly changing overtime which means he was still getting stronger.

Yeah, he could have done that to Ajeel. And probably would have done so if Makarov hadn't scooped him up.

Jacob wasn't holding back. He was pissed off when Natsu and Lucy kicked him, and went all out after that. Oh, and he was ranting.

The punch that Natsu threw at the Alvarez army was not a demolition fist. That was a regular fire dragon's iron fist, comparable to this:

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Hold on a second. You think these are FDK flames? Hilarious. That's my cue to stop. There's only so much "WoWfan facts" I can take in a day.

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[Vis]

Motherglare could be easily injured by an already injured and tired Natsu. so why not. Natsu caught Igneel and he is stronger than all of them, With Time Stop, it would be no problem.

But do you think Jacob could shrug off her roar?
So are you saying Mirajane could outrace Grandeeney and the other dragons?
Do you think Dimaria would one-shot the dragons with Age Seal?

 

[WoWfan]

that roar may have been Small Country, but not enough to take down a Spriggan.

If Dragons can be caught by humans, then yes, even she can.

May take a few stabs, but since spears can kill dragons, even Dimarias sword can

 

[Axiomus]

Oh my lord. What did I just read? Jacob overpowering Motherglare. Mirajane outspeeding the parent dragons. Dimaria killing Rogue's dragons with her regular sword....

.... He's evolving.

 

[WoWfan]

Motherglare is confirmed weaker and the feats support it, and confirmed human catch Dragons despite flying already, and spears have killed dragons, Dimaria's sword would be no different

 

[GL_Nova]

As I said i see erza new weapon as natsu new ds attack of secret art
Natsu getting lightening
That something erza never gets
Or gray getting demon slayer magic

That is all. I don't disagree with you here much

What? How can erza judge the entire squad. Erza is shocked that laxus is as strong or slightly stronger than her. She can rest knowing laxus can replace her in saving the guild.
I dont disagree with her admission of lose. I dont have any problem saying laxus barely won this fight. After erza gave up, because lets face it, erza didnt really have much stake in this fight .
Its laxus fan who picks and choose what they want to believe. August hype of laxus nuke. Mira hype of jura are the two most important and factual hypes known to mankind. Meanwhile others hype are questionable and we should try to find underlining meaning behind them.

Erza held back. Laxus fans like this or not, its laxus statement. More accurate than august statement about laxus nuke.
Laxus needing red lightening to put down erza and even that wasnt enough.
Meanwhile erza is shocked laxus is so strong, that when she stops holding back he is equal to her.

Yes erza mis judged laxus power. After seeing laxus awe inspiring feat against hades, after hearing laxus beat jura, after being right next to laxus when he nuked ajeel. She still thought laxus was weaker than her. And here laxus fan used these same things to rank laxus tiers above erza

Why bring up kiria, without laxus weak heart

It’s exactly like that lol. She got a new power up an used it to get a DS and DeS mode.

She was quite clear about being worried that she left and took a chunk of the guilds forces with her. An that Laxus can close that gap on his own. Remember she’s the most reliable source of statements we have.

Both those statements are tied to actions. An I’m not sure what either has to do with our current topic. What Erza hype has been undone or ignored?
Your right to an extent. I do believe August, and I believe Laxus as well. Not to the point I think he really couldn’t have won as a DS, but I think him acknowledging that Erza is too strong to play with is both the right move and a beautiful growth moment. It makes a point of how far he’s come since the original Fighting Festival. It’s also simply smart. He did just fight Kiria. An Erza isnt a great opponent to play with, especially not debuting new skills. I’m not bothered by him acknowledging that.

 

[One4All]

I don't really understand how Jacob can kill or harm any Dragon,even the ones from GMG or the parent dragons.
1. he is not a Dragon slayer.
2. he is just a human being.
3. Dragons are known for tough scales.
4. Dragons are way bigger than him.
5. Dragons can fly.

and the only one who had feats shown actually defeating a Dragon was Natsu.But:
1. against Future Rogue and Motherglare-he has Atlas Flame.
2. against Animus-he became half dragon.
3. against half-powered Merc-he has Ignia's flames as a powerup.

Not even the DS themselves deafeated a GMG Dragon. I may agree that the 5 DEs are not a top tier S12 level,lower-tier S12 at best. But it's really hard to believe that a mere human being like Jacob with no DS magic can match a dragon.

 

[WoWfan]

I don't really understand how Jacob can kill or harm any Dragon,even the ones from GMG or the parent dragons.
1. he is not a Dragon slayer.
2. he is just a human being.
3. Dragons are known for tough scales.
4. Dragons are way bigger than him.
5. Dragons can fly.

and the only one who had feats shown actually defeating a Dragon was Natsu.But:
1. against Future Rogue and Motherglare-he has Atlas Flame.
2. against Animus-he became half dragon.
3. against half-powered Merc-he has Ignia's flames as a powerup.

Not even the DS themselves deafeated a GMG Dragon. I may agree that the 5 DEs are not a top tier S12 level,lower-tier S12 at best. But it's really hard to believe that a mere human being like Jacob with no DS magic can match a dragon.

Well dragons have been shown to be killed by spears, Jacob would have no problem, dragons can be affected by other Magic too besides DS, weak humans can tag dragons while flying. 5DG are above Spriggan level as they scale to Acnologia.

 

[Crimson Ice]

I don't really understand how Jacob can kill or harm any Dragon,even the ones from GMG or the parent dragons.
1. he is not a Dragon slayer.
2. he is just a human being.
3. Dragons are known for tough scales.
4. Dragons are way bigger than him.
5. Dragons can fly.

and the only one who had feats shown actually defeating a Dragon was Natsu.But:
1. against Future Rogue and Motherglare-he has Atlas Flame.
2. against Animus-he became half dragon.
3. against half-powered Merc-he has Ignia's flames as a powerup.

Not even the DS themselves deafeated a GMG Dragon. I may agree that the 5 DEs are not a top tier S12 level,lower-tier S12 at best. But it's really hard to believe that a mere human being like Jacob with no DS magic can match a dragon.

Jacob can’t hurt dragons. Jacob doesn’t have enough physical strength to do so. Whoever says he can doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

 

[Sora]

My rank :

Natsu
Erza/Lakusas
Gray
Gajeel
Mirajane
Wendy
Lucy/Juvia
Elfman
Evergreen
Lisanna/Cana/Levy

Dont't know for Guildartz and Makarov, depends on plot maybe.

 

[WoWfan]

Jacob can’t hurt dragons. Jacob doesn’t have enough physical strength to do so. Whoever says he can doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

If regular spears can harm/kill dragons, then so can Jacob, you seem to be wanking Dragons really hard.

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[Ramen]

My rank :

Natsu
Erza/Lakusas
Gray
Gajeel
Mirajane
Wendy
Lucy/Juvia
Elfman
Evergreen
Lisanna/Cana/Levy

Dont't know for Guildartz and Makarov, depends on plot maybe.

Gildarts is sitting comfortably in first place

 

[yutu]

If regular spears can harm/kill dragons, then so can Jacob, you seem to be wanking Dragons really hard.

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Eilen is not in his dragon form but more in a DF form. In this form we know that a normal human can injure a DS. But is it the case that the DS becomes a dragon?

 

[WoWfan]

Eilen is not in his dragon form but more in a DF form. In this form we know that a normal human can injure a DS. But is it the case that the DS becomes a dragon?

Irene was not even dragonizing at that point, that didn’t happen until later.

 

[Crimson Ice]

If regular spears can harm/kill dragons, then so can Jacob, you seem to be wanking Dragons really hard.

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What did that panel prove? Are you dense? In that battle it was dragons vs humans and dragons and this was AFTER dragon slaying magic was made. It has been said the only magic that works on dragons is dragon slaying magic. Please post a scan of a regular non dragon slaying human harming a dragon.

You wank Jacob, I already know that.