Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[kenedyfake]

I am fine with blumenblatt being Erza's strongest attack ... but we cannot ignore the fact that this attack does not project all of Erza's swords, as they claim. We have to make things clear ..

Erza has used this attack numerous times in the manga.

You implied that just the heaven wheel brought him to his knees dumbass, this is how it started. You can’t even comprehend the implications of your own replies.

u mad?

 

[GL_Nova]

“Just”? You need to work on your interpretation skills because I said HW was able to bring a stronger than before Laxus to his knees, you act like that is all she used. imbecile

This statement isn’t true though, so why do you keep insisting on it?

 

[WoWfan]

This statement isn’t true though, so why do you keep insisting on it?

Because he was hindered by Erza’s swords despite being more powerful, we have seen characters run out of magic before but they did not faint and still managed to move around

 

[LaGOAT]

Doesn’t matter if erza was holding back the fact of the matter is the full spam heaven wheel that her strongest armor I mean she used it on acno that alone should show u unless u believe that erza was holding back .

 

[WoWfan]

where is this holding back thing coming from?

 

[Axiomus]

oo i thought they were the same


erza was holding back remember (i like how this is the most ignore statement in the manga )
laxus is always bare hand. what do you want him to hold

laxus is not fresh anymore, he aint taking that the same way


heaven wheel is just not her strong attack. that is a fact. did she put more effort here sure, but why have it jump over actual known stronger attacks with actual ko count

Different weapons.

I can argue that Laxus was too, but it doesn't matter. Erza eventually stopped holding back and the result is still what we see here. If you're arguing that Erza used her strongest attack and still held back...Well, that doesn't make any sense at all. Either the true benisakura slash was stronger or heaven's wheel was. If you're going to claim true benisakura was stronger, then it would have dealt more damage than Erza's final attack. Which means heavens wheel isn't enough to finish Laxus off, especially since Laxus wasn't even really hit by it. He countered the attack with his imperial red lightning, and only got minor cuts and scratches from the resulting explosion.

I am fine with blumenblatt being Erza's strongest attack ... but we cannot ignore the fact that this attack does not project all of Erza's swords, as they claim. We have to make things clear ..

Erza projected every weapon she possessed against Acnologia. That's not me claiming it. That's words from Erza's own mouth. If you don't believe that Erza spammed every one of her weapons at Acnologia, that means she would have had to gotten hundreds of heaven wheel swords and purposely chose to spam them instead of every weapon in her arsenal, and then lie about it to a person that doesn't even care to listen. Now she may not have spammed every weapon against Laxus when she used Blumenblatt, but the fact that she exhausted herself only means that it's because she didn't have enough MP to project the rest of her weapons.

 

[WoWfan]

correction, every weapon that happens to be part of her HW armor, and those words contradict what she showed. and thus did not spam every weapon

 

[Axiomus]

correction, every weapon that happens to be part of her HW armor, and those words contradict what she showed. and thus did not spam every weapon

Erza has used heavens wheel to spam different weapons before.

So essentially you're saying that Erza is lying. She's not using every weapon she possess like she claims, but is instead not even using every weapon that heaven's wheel has previously shown to be using. She bought hundreds of heaven wheel swords, and then purposely chose to spam just those instead of every weapon she possessed. Then felt the need to lie about it to Acnologia, even though Acnologia doesn't even care. Essentially Erza is a crazy person.

 

[LaGOAT]

Well it’s super confirmed laxus>erza

 

[WoWfan]

but it is just the same weapons recently, Well since she never showed all here weapons that you claim she used then by your definition and understanding, yes she did lie, however, she did not, she just used HW weapons.

also Laxus is just infinitesimal stronger than Erza

 

[Axiomus]

but it is just the same weapons recently, Well since she never showed all here weapons that you claim she used then by your definition and understanding, yes she did lie, however, she did not, she just used HW weapons.

She flat out said she used every weapon in her possession, not every weapon in Heaven's Wheel arsenal. Even if she meant she used every weapon in heaven's wheel arsenal that would include previous weapons that she used with heaven's wheel. Erza didn't even use that. So Erza is lying according to you.

 

[WoWfan]

which is just nonsense as it clearly showed just her swords, Those swords before have nothing special besides looking fancy so they are irrelevant

 

[Axiomus]

which is just nonsense as it clearly showed just her swords, Those swords before have nothing special besides looking fancy so they are irrelevant

So when Erza said "This is every weapon that I possess" what she really meant to say is "This is not every weapon I possess. This is not even every weapon I can summon with heaven's wheel. This is just some of the swords that comes with heaven's wheel". I don't see how you can possibly say she's not lying.

I highly doubt Erza's weapons are just there to look fancy. For one, we can see a few of her katana's in there. For another, a lot of her swords share the same design as rave master's 10 commandment swords. We see explosion, silfarion, melforce, and runesave all in there.

 

[WoWfan]

Well when it contradicts her statement that means all weapons across multiple armors, she clearly meant every weapon in her HW, well there is no showings or statements otherwise, they are just fancy looking, not the same as Erza's Knightwalker has Ten Commandments

 

[AmitDS]

Sure, I don't disagree with Mirajane being stronger than Gajeel and Gray.

Like I said, I don't see Erza getting heavily injured by Skullion in the first place. And I honestly think Erza can break her arm and still beat Gray.



That translation was wrong. He said "Jellal is fine too".

Erza is much stronger than Gray.

Erza gets a lot of POF boosts eg) vs Irene but I don't think people consider POF when talking about power levels, well at least I don't. Erza in a standard armor (not nakagami, armadura) losing to Gray at full power while she's heavily injured is an acceptable outcome imo. If Gray gets low-mid diffed by him and BSS Mirajane drew with him it's not outrageous to surmise that Erza in her standard armors, without POF asspulls would be heavily injured by him.

 

[Axiomus]

Erza gets a lot of POF boosts eg) vs Irene but I don't think people consider POF when talking about power levels, well at least I don't. Erza in a standard armor (not nakagami, armadura) losing to Gray at full power while she's heavily injured is an acceptable outcome imo. If Gray gets low-mid diffed by him and BSS Mirajane drew with him it's not outrageous to surmise that Erza in her standard armors, without POF asspulls would be heavily injured by him.

Every character at their best relies on POF, including Gray. If you want to exclude POF feats for Erza, then you also have to exclude POF feats for Gray. If we're being fair to both characters, Erza simply has much better feats than Gray. Her non-POF feats are Laxus tier, and her POF feats are honestly insane.

Armours don't really matter when it comes to Erza's durability because she tanks almost everything with her cherry blossom robes anyways, and those robes offer no defensive properties. Erza is just too much of a tank. I honestly believe Erza can be naked and still tank everything Skullion can throw at her. I don't buy that Skullion's attacks are injuring Erza more than this.

Spoiler

Erza was just getting serious after taking this attack. This attack is several times stronger than what Laxus used to beat Kyria, and Skullion ran away because he sensed that Kyria (and Wraith) was defeated. All of this is assuming Skullion can even hit Erza, because Wendy hard countered Skullion's ash. Erza has her wind god sword, which was able to do the same to Ajeel. She also reacts to Laxus' lightning body.

 

[WoWfan]

Skullion ran away because he believed that he could not defeat Mira

 

[Ramen]

Skullion ran away because he believed that he could not defeat Mira

No it was because Kyria and Wraith were defeated and they were outnumbered

 

[Crimson Ice]

“Just”? You need to work on your interpretation skills because I said HW was able to bring a stronger than before Laxus to his knees, you act like that is all she used. imbecile

Are you dumb? Laxus attack power increase doesn’t mean his durability was up. You referencing his power being buffed is irrelevant, heaven’s wheel bringing down a heavily injured Laxus is irrelevant.

--- Double Post Merged, Feb 26, 2020, Original Post Date: Feb 26, 2020 ---

I am fine with blumenblatt being Erza's strongest attack ... but we cannot ignore the fact that this attack does not project all of Erza's swords, as they claim. We have to make things clear ..

Erza has used this attack numerous times in the manga.





u mad?

No but you dick eating.

 

[WoWfan]

It was not specifically stated that it increased attack power, just power in general, which is stats increase.

No it was because Kyria and Wraith were defeated and they were outnumbered

He left because of how strong they are as referencing to Mira and others