Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[WoWfan]

That or they are just outmatched by fighters strong or stronger than they are, and the fact they have to call a stronger unit is evident

 

[Ramen]

That or they are just outmatched by fighters strong or stronger than they are, and the fact they have to call a stronger unit is evident

Yes but it's evident from his words they are outnumbered

 

[kian]

OK and? The main reason was clearly them being outnumbered.

He stopped the fight because Kyria and Wraith went down. He says if we can't do it by ourselves then we will call in our strongest unit.

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Kyria had been defeated for 5 chapters and Wraith for 6 chapters. If Skullion & Madmole's main for retreating was them being defeated then they would've done it long ago. Their fight was a 2v2? Lucy had ran away by that point.

They literally agree to a stalemate and admit they can't defeat each other. Like I said being uncertain they could defeat the Strauss siblings and not wanting to risk it is what prompted their retreat.

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[WoWfan]

Judging by his words they need people who are stronger

 

[Ramen]

Kyria had been defeated for 5 chapters and Wraith for 6 chapters. If Skullion & Madmole's main for retreating was them being defeated then they would've done it long ago. Their fight was a 2v2? Lucy had ran away by that point.

They literally agree to a stalemate and admit they can't defeat each other. Like I said being uncertain they could defeat the Strauss siblings and not wanting to risk it is what prompted their retreat.

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Am I disagreeing with that? No

Them being outnumbered was the catalyst for the retreat and the 2v2 was just the nail in the coffin.

 

[WoWfan]

But if they knew how they were defeated they would think differently

 

[Ramen]

Well they didn't

 

[WoWfan]

And they left because of the strength of FWt

 

[Ramen]

AND because they were outnumbered.

 

[WoWfan]

But that’s the thing, throughout the entire encounters, there is no implication that being outnumbered is an issue, heck, with Gumball dude he relatively took out multiple brainwashed characters at onc before facing Wendy who should have been no problem, yet in her base was kicking him around in his base too. And just like with Kyria, you could say it was because she was outnumbered if she actually was threatening and put up a fight, but two strong fighters left and leaving only one, and that was one sided Against Kyria. And even with Skulllion and Madmole, against Mirajane and Elfman, who fans complain they would be stomped were not, they were surprisingly able to hold their ground and tire the DS out, being outnumbered is only a factor if it does work in context.

 

[Ramen]

What are you talking about? They fled during the Water God Arc because they were outnumbered.

"We are at a disadvantage" meaning they are outnumbered

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Skullion says either there are too many enemies or FT (as a whole) is just that strong.

Smh....Are we really gonna ignore the manga to wank Mira's "feats?" Skullion many times references the # of enemies.

 

[WoWfan]

That was before, this is now, besides back then, two of them were unable to fight after being defeated.

And FT was divided at the time, so no they were not as a whole. We are using manga feats, she is simply able to do things that Gray, Natsu and Wendy could not on their own

 

[Ramen]

Kyria could keep fighting and so could Madmole. That's very clear.

I don't care what Mira did because it was off panel so the validity of it is suspect. She can be stronger than him but in the broad context both of them are mediocre compared to other mages (Laxus,Erza,Natsu,Gildarts)

When Skullion says there are either too many enemies or FT is just that strong, being outnumbered is a possibility according to him.

 

[WoWfan]

If it was clear, than they would have, not just stood around and doing nothing, especially with the powers they possess or just change up their opponents. Was we also saw is Elfman was in base form so he was strong enough to fight them too, so suspect should not be in question. Comparing Laxus and Erza is not relevant. Skullion said that the FT wizards are strong too, which is more than likely the case

 

[Ramen]

No Kyria's words are clear. Madmole got up seconds after the attack and could. They were outnumbered that's why they didn't continue.

She says right after she'll cut them all down.

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I'm saying is Mira being above Gray in the borad context is still mediocre.

Yes but also mentions being outnumbered.

 

[WoWfan]

Kyria is all talk, she rushes in first without thinking, here she is all bark, relative to their strength, they would not be out numbered.

Still Mira did more to Skullion than Gray did with DSM.

being outnumbered without proof of them losing via being outnumbered to begin with

 

[LaGOAT]

People seems to forgetthat erza didn’t beat kyria she was just winning that fight.

 

[Axiomus]

Skullion ran away because he sensed that Wraith and Kyria were defeated. That's the reason he gave to Madmole. He probably didn't want to stick around and have to fight whoever beat Kyria and Wraith (which would be Natsu and Laxus) on top of Mirajane.

We are using manga feats, she is simply able to do things that Gray, Natsu and Wendy could not on their own

No she's not. Mirajane only has better feats than Gray. Which honestly isn't that impressive, because Gray wasn't even at his peak performance.

Natsu and Wendy did better against Skullion and Madmole than the Strauss siblings did. Wendy completely shut down Skullion's ash magic, and frustrated him to the point he called for Madmole to assist. Then Natsu overpowered Madmole's defenses with FDK Purgatory. This did more damage than anything Elfman and Mirajane did. They also didn't come out of the fight seriously injured to the point Gray could beat them. They immediately went after Mercphobia after it.

 

[WoWfan]

that means they are simply that strong as Skullion said
Even at his peak he is not as strong as Mira back then and now. they did now, They simply countered his intelligibility, while the siblings could still hurt him regardles, even when Elfman is in base.

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People seems to forgot that erza didn’t beat kyria she was just winning that fight.

She did win considering she could no longer fight and had outside help

 

[Ramen]

Kyria is all talk, she rushes in first without thinking, here she is all bark, relative to their strength, they would not be out numbered.

Still Mira did more to Skullion than Gray did with DSM.

being outnumbered without proof of them losing via being outnumbered to begin with

All talk doesn't matter, she had the will to keep going proving your point of her being down for the count wrong. She literally said she wants to keep fighting so please show me her being out of the fight.

@Axiomus explained this.

He can sense he's outnumbered since he comments on them being defeated. Plus he knows that FT are on Aldoron