- Really ? xD One who can cast world-class magic would get stomped by the DGS ?
- Really ? xD (x2) Who said FH Zeref can not beat Acno, manga clearly stated he could. FH Zeref should reset entire universe. About which fact you're daydreaming. Show prove on manga or stop troll so bad.
- Ho? Actually it accidentally killed Igneel scales
That's why they survived (scales on scarf took all damage on itself (like Laxus absorb all particles with his lungs during Tartatus arc)
Zeref did not say he could not deal with Acno when he get FH. Don't lie. That part is fact,
About Irene, DGs etc. It's our speculations. With canon I saw Irene feats far more impressive them such losers like Merc.
4 from 5 DGs are not actually join in battle. So, impossible say for now,
- Really ? xD One who can cast world-class magic would get stomped by the DGS ?
- Really ? xD (x2) Who said FH Zeref can not beat Acno, manga clearly stated he could. FH Zeref should reset entire universe. About which fact you're daydreaming. Show prove on manga or stop troll so bad.
- Ho? Actually it accidentally killed Igneel scales
That's why they survived (scales on scarf took all damage on itself (like Laxus absorb all particles with his lungs during Tartatus arc)
Manga had August and Irene saying that maybe Zeref could take on Acnologia if he got his hands on Fairy Heart. Then Fairy Heart Zeref lost to Natsu and their "maybe" turned into a "nope".
Zeref's death wave didn't kill Igneel's scales. Igneel's scales had already fallen off his body. It was explained that once a dragon's scales falls off their bodies and loses its color, it also loses its power. That's why Anna could use a thread and needle to weave it into a scarf. Also, Wendy's magic (which is an inferior version of Grandeeney's magic) purified the scarf. At best, Zeref's death wave gave the old skin that Igneel shedded a paint job, which Wendy undid. When Natsu actually fought Zeref with Igneel's power, Zeref's magic was getting incinerated by Igneel's power. When Zeref actually hit Natsu with his black magic, it didn't kill him either.
Besides, Curse of Contradiction isn't even something he controls. It just randomly kills people when he values life. Yeah, maybe if Zeref started to value life, fell in love with Aldoron, and tried to make out with his gigantic mouth, then Ankhseram's curse might have a chance at killing Aldoron. That's about his only win condition.
About Irene, DGs etc. It's our speculations. With canon I saw Irene feats far more impressive them such losers like Merc.
4 from 5 DGs are not actually join in battle. So, impossible say for now,
There's no speculation. The God Dragons are scaled higher than Irene because they're said to be around Acnologia's level, and Mercphobia has outright better feats than Irene. Irene's dragon form got wrecked by Erza with an enchanted dragon slaying sword. The entirety of team Natsu couldn't even scratch Mercphobia with their dragon slaying seals.
Individually maybe, but there were hundreds of them. And no, Animus at least has objectively better feats than many of the Spriggans.
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Ignia oneshots Irene with the attack he used to feed Natsu. In fact, Ignia doesn't even have to personally fight Irene. He can just power Natsu up to do it for him. And Natsu doesn't just beat Irene. He wipes away all her magic for life like he did for Mercphobia, and reverts her back to a regular human being. So not only would Ignia flex over Irene with a minion, but she would be grateful that his minion owned her. Also Deus Sema wouldn't even affect Ignia. He's a god tier fire dragon. He just needs to not get hit by the actual space rock, which anyone who moves as fast than Erza can do, and the resulting explosion is just going to give him food.
Aldoron just steps on Irene. There are literally cities built on the back of his hands. By the way, Aldoron has tanked every single attack Fairy Tail was using that hit the environment. This includes Irene's attack that beat Nebal. That blast didn't even penetrate deep enough to make it past the concrete foundations the city is built on to reach Aldoron's skin. It literally didn't even tickle Aldoron. Aldoron can just catch her meteor like a baseball. In Irene's own words, it's easier to break a meteor than dragon scales. Worst case scenario, the people living on his city fall off because he has to turn his palms up to catch.
There's some debate over who is negating the White Witch's powers, but the general consensus is that it's Selene. If that's the case, Selene no-diffs Irene. She strips away all her powers, and reverts Irene back to her powerless human form. All from the safety of some mountain Irene doesn't even know the location of. If it isn't Selene that negated the White Witch's powers, then it's Aldoron. In which case, Aldoron stomps even harder.
Mercphobia is the only dragon here that doesn't rightfully stomp, and even then he still low diffs her. Unlike Irene, Mercphobia can actually tank attacks when his opponents use dragon slaying magic. He can also turn his body into water to avoid any attacks. Not that he would need to, because he is physically stronger than Irene in the first place. Deus Sema would need to get past Mercphobia lifting the ocean into the sky, and it didn't even get past Erza's sword.
Well Erza was able to lodge some of her swords inside of mercphobia with just blumenblatt, so if she did a more serious attack like the one she used against Irene, she'd probably be able to do a similar cut to him. But by then Merc would probably just turn to water to avoid damage.
There wasn't any swords lodged on him. This was Mercphobia's condition after the combined assault, which included Blummenblatt. There aren't any swords stuck in him, and there's not even any visible scratches or wounds. Erza isn't cutting Mercphobia out of his dragon form.
Okay so maybe there were two swords that got halfway through the scales, but it wasn't actually enough to cause any real damage. Like I showed in the pages that followed, Mercphobia was in near pristine condition after the entire assault. No bleeding or anything. If Mercphobia actually got cut, it would show bleeding like Igneel and Acnologia's cuts.
Like I said, if her swords could get that far with blumenblatt, A more serious attack would get even farther. Not saying she beats mercphobia or anything, but if she went all out she'd probably be able to damage him if he doesn't use his water form.
Sure. I don't actually have an issue with Erza being able to damage Mercphobia. She has a dragon slaying seal after all. I'm just saying it's unlikely going to be to the point where she cuts him out of his dragon form altogether like she did with Irene. Think of the type of cuts that Acnologia inflicted on Igneel after 20 minutes of fighting. Erza is unlikely going to top that.
I never said that she would knock him out of his dragon form. I think Mercphobia could probably negate the damage by turning into water if it came to it, I was just acknowledging that Erza is strong enough to be able to do some damage at her strongest.
Erza basic Blumenblatt swords reached dragon Merc, while full scale Blumenblatt was turned to "flower" by sealed (human) Irene.
N.B. Team Natsu is nerfed in that sequel.
In canon Erza with one (!) single bone was able to "flight" and smash meteor and after it damage dragon Irene (who was shocked with it "what do my stupid daughter").
In sequel Erza did not able to properly scratch the skin and Natsu to boil water.
Same team of Natsu was not only to handle Dragon Eaters, and actually that nerfed team of Natsu did far more feats vs Dragon Merc then they did versus Dragon Eaters.
It's literally shows Dragon Eaters > Dragon Merc (*) * but I keep in mind how team of Natsu was nerfed
On other hand, just a residual piece of Irene power via something like thought projection oneshotted dragonized!Nebal
dragonized Nebal >>> dragon eaters.
Well, we remember Wendy roars vs dragon eaters team, Merc and "venom"-Nebal. As well as results of these hits,
With that logic dragonized Nebal > dragon eaters trio > Merc.
Mercphobia simply never felt the need to block or dodge any of Erza's attacks. Erza's blumenblatt did pretty much nothing to him. He was in near pristine condition after the entire assault by team Natsu. Erza herself couldn't even get close to Mercphobia after he lifted the ocean. Literally couldn't even do anything as Mercphobia sucked Natsu in with the whirlpool.
Verter's entire argument predicates itself on the nonsense that the dragon eaters are stronger than Mercphobia. Dragon Eaters literally ran away after Natsu and Erza were beating Madmole and Kyria, with Madmole considering the entire group at a disadvantage against team Natsu. Mercphobia was soloing the entire team, and was going to kill everyone until Ignia showed up.
The attack that beat Nebal couldn't even penetrate the concrete deep enough to touch Aldoron's skin. Irene using all of her residual magic power couldn't even tickle Aldoron. Yet Verter is sitting here pretending that beating dragonized Nebal proves Irene can give Aldoron a good fight.
Erza's blumenblatt was indeed unable to do anything to Mercphobia. Mercphobia's was in near pristine condition after receiving all of team Natsu's attacks, including Blumenblatt. Even if you argue that 2 of Erza's swords managed to get halfway through Mercphobia's scales, that's the same as if you tried to poke me with a toothpick and only got halfway through my jacket. There's no real damage here.
Erza didn't use Blumeblatt against Acnologia. She spammed every single one of her weapons against him, and that didn't actually damage Acnologia either. It just pushed him the same way the Christina airship was able to push him. The actual weapons were shattering upon impact against Acnologia's scales.
Mercphobia is not as durable as Acnologia, but he's around the same level. Erza's slashes would do less against Mercphobia than the cuts Acnologia gave to Igneel after 20 minutes of fighting. Honestly, even if Mercphobia is only a quarter as durable as Acnologia, he would still be more durable than Irene.
I know exactly why @Verter gets basic facts about the manga wrong all the time, and it's because he's just says random stuff without actually using logic or fact checking. The attack on the page he linked isn't even blumenblatt. This is Erza spamming every single one of her weapons, and if Verter actually read the manga he would know this because Erza literally says that's what she's doing. Anyways, this attack did no actual damage. Her weapons were unable able to penetrate Acnologia's scales and shattered upon impact against them.
All it did was push Acnologia, which the Christina airship can also do. Needless to say, Acnologia was unharmed by the attack.
With results of same Erza swords on Acno and on Merc - we've only two options - "Merc durability > Acno one" or "Erza attack was nerfed"
So, why you put here Christina ?
If you said about me, I long time ago posted my position on that kind of situation - Erza was nerfed in sequel (as well as Natsu). So my answer - "Erza attack was nerfed".
So, suggest power levels of guys just on comparing with their feats against team of Natsu is irrelevant.
We can see real things only with new guys versus old guys exclude team of Natsu.
Like it was with Kyria vs Laxus and Kyria roar vs Jellal.
It's again simply and perfectly showed how team of Natsu was nerfed.
So, Erza swords may push Acno and failed against Merc, Natsu burns magic and fail to boil water (when he should perfectly burn it).
