Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Axiomus]

LOL! Face was Mard Geer's master plan to take out humanity because Tartaros couldn't beat the humans in a straight fight (they lost to just FT, without people like Jura and Jellal helping out). If Natsu exhausted himself fighting just Mard Geer, what makes you think he was going to single handedly stop face?

This was Jacob's reaction to the heat coming off of Natsu's FDK mode. This would have happened no matter what position Jacob was in. Jacob could have been on the ground, hiding behind a metal shield, and the heat would have still caused him to burn up like this. I shouldn't have to say this, but you can't physically block heat with a movement.

 

[WoWfan]

Sting and Rogue joined in the fight, yeah, they helped, not like other people would help out either when Hades is fodder now to Tartaros. Well you can't just claim that FT can ask Natsu to destroy the faces while he is fighting, and with Gray helping him out either, and by the time they won it was too late. no it would not, he would be in a better position to fight back, just like how Invel casually froze those flames.

 

[Axiomus]

Lol. If Natsu and Gray took this long to beat Mard Geer, what makes you think Natsu alone can smash all the faces?

Jacob could have the skills of a jiu-jitsu black belt and have Natsu in a rear naked choke, and he would still burn up if Natsu entered FDK mode. As soon as Natsu enters in FDK mode, Jacob is going to go "AHHHHH!! It...It buuuurns" and Natsu will push him off and demolition fist him. You can't defend against temperature with physical movements lol.

 

[WoWfan]

Anyone with enough strength can smash the faces. yet he was not burned, just feeling hot. because Jacob was not in a defensive position. that doesn't you can't have your guard up.

 

[sharkai]

Acnologia can destroy the faces in his dragon form, because he's stronger than them. Just not in his human form. Even if you make the argument the parent dragons are faster, which they probably aren't, Acnologia would still achieve the feat just in less time.

You mean to tell me oneshotting Bluenote is more impressive than wiping out all the faces from Ishgal? Do you believe Natsu can run around Ishgal and wipe out all the faces after it's been activated and draining Natsu's magic? Do you think Natsu would do to the parent dragons what he did to Jacob? That the passive heat from FDK mode would cause the parent dragons to burn up without the flames even toughing them, and that a single demolition fist would take them out? Or that Natsu can two-shot one of the parent dragons the same way he did to Neinhart with regular punches?

thats just your feeling. there is no comparison in the manga
its same as you saying SO>three months training
maybe you are right, but manga doesnt say it.

alverzec natsu can causally one shot gmg jura tier character, i dont see him having any problem with face either. alverzec natsu would have causally soloed all gmg participants

Universe One pretty much held aconologia back, for nearly the entire war. he couldnt come back, thus flying feat of parent dragons also comes in doubt

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LMAO don't make me laugh fam.




no visual evidence of Spriggans being country level as well

then dont read your own post, you will end up in a nut house

 

[Axiomus]

thats just your feeling. there is no comparison in the manga
its same as you saying SO>three months training
maybe you are right, but manga doesnt say it.

alverzec natsu can causally one shot gmg jura tier character, i dont see him having any problem with face either. alverzec natsu would have causally soloed all gmg participants

Universe One pretty much held aconologia back, for nearly the entire war. he couldnt come back, thus flying feat of parent dragons also comes in doubt

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then dont read your own post, you will end up in a nut house

Acnologia is stronger than the parent dragons. That's simply a fact. He's the strongest character in the series. Funny you should mention second origin vs 3 months of training. Just like how Natsu has been consistently stated to be stronger than Gajeel, Acnologia has been consistently portrayed to be the strongest character in the series.

Being able to oneshot Jura doesn't mean you can run around Ishgal and wipe out FACE after it's been turned on. Not even close.

Universe One just dumped Acnologia off somewhere in the ocean. It didn't physically hold down Acnologia. Acnologia just wasn't in a hurry to fly back to wherever it is he wanted to be, proven by the fact that he didn't bother to turn into a dragon to take advantage of his wings.

The flying feat of the parent dragons has never in any doubt, and will never be in any doubt. It is simply something that happened. It is canon.

Anyone with enough strength can smash the faces. yet he was not burned, just feeling hot. because Jacob was not in a defensive position. that doesn't you can't have your guard up.

Smashing the faces is not the issue here. The issue is destroying the magic behind it, and being able to do so to over 700 of them.

Jacob was screaming in pain about how he was burning up. This would have happened no matter what position Jacob was in. You can have Jacob hold up a metal shield and the same thing would happen. You can put Neinhart between Jacob and Neinhart as a literal human shield, and the heat would still cause Jacob to burn up like he did.

 

[WoWfan]

Flight speed is different from combat speed, not like their flight speed is impressive compared to previous showings, and since there were dragons in the world, he would be in a hurry

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Magic is not the issue here as well as it does not do anything for the face dura stats, tell that to Invel who froze his flames rather simply, it was a matter of opportunity to hit him when he cannot fight back

 

[Axiomus]

Flight speed is different from combat speed, not like their flight speed is impressive compared to previous showings, and since there were dragons in the world, he would be in a hurry

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Magic is not the issue here as well as it does not do anything for the face dura stats, tell that to Invel who froze his flames rather simply, it was a matter of opportunity to hit him when he cannot fight back

Speed is speed. No human character is able to cross the continent in minutes.

Acnologia was not in a hurry because he was still moving around in his human form. He had no wings so to speak off to fly with. He took his sweet time when he started hunting down the dragon slayers, even before he met Irene.

Magic is absolutely the issue. Like I said, destroying the physical structure of face does absolutely nothing. Destroying the physical structure of face does not stop face's magic from continuing to wipe out magic. You have to destroy the magic power of the face, and that means overcoming enough magic power to blow up a city.

Invel never froze FDK flames. He froze regular flames. Burning the ground has never been an indicator that not Natsu is using FDK. Natsu has used FDK mode without burning the ground, and he set the ground on fire without entering FDK mode. Miss me with this nonsense.

Like I said, it doesn't matter what position Jacob was in. First of all, it's complete nonsense to pretend that you cannot defend yourself in midair. Just cover your head with your hands. Secondly, Natsu was burning up Jacob's entire body with his heat. This would have happened no matter what position Jacob was in. Finally, it doesn't matter if Jacob attempts to block Natsu's punch. Natsu would just smash through his guard and take him down anyways, like he did to Madmole.

 

[Crimson Ice]

Parent Dragons best speed is only flight speed, even then, they do not even beat light speed feats which characters can react to and dodge.

Jean, Irene, August, Wall, and the rest scale to each other, yeah, Spriggans are country level

Nobody in Fairy Tail is light speed. The Spriggan bar August in a suicide attack isn’t country level either,

 

[sharkai]

Acnologia is stronger than the parent dragons. That's simply a fact. He's the strongest character in the series. Funny you should mention second origin vs 3 months of training. Just like how Natsu has been consistently stated to be stronger than Gajeel, Acnologia has been consistently portrayed to be the strongest character in the series.

Being able to oneshot Jura doesn't mean you can run around Ishgal and wipe out FACE after it's been turned on. Not even close.

Universe One just dumped Acnologia off somewhere in the ocean. It didn't physically hold down Acnologia. Acnologia just wasn't in a hurry to fly back to wherever it is he wanted to be, proven by the fact that he didn't bother to turn into a dragon to take advantage of his wings.

The flying feat of the parent dragons has never in any doubt, and will never be in any doubt. It is simply something that happened. It is canon.

Talking to you is really impossible

yes i now Aconologia >> parent dragons
But aconologia couldnt come back. he took his time. you basically are saying universe one was technically useless. and aconologia could come back anytime he wanted.
utter BS
i guess this is what is expected from you.

Acnologia just wasn't in a hurry to fly back
while we are making nonsense of our own, maybe irene just wasnt interested in killing aconologia herself. that why she didnt kill aconologia
maybe wahl wanted to die thats why he didnt one shot laxus from the start
now i know why gajeel and levy survived Bradman, because bradman didnt really wanted to kill them


Being able to oneshot Jura doesn't mean you can run around Ishgal and wipe out FACE after it's been turned on. Not even close.
you dont know that, stop making sh!t up

 

[Crimson Ice]

Talking to you is really impossible

yes i now Aconologia >> parent dragons
But aconologia couldnt come back. he took his time. you basically are saying universe one was technically useless. and aconologia could come back anytime he wanted.
utter BS
i guess this is what is expected from you.

Acnologia just wasn't in a hurry to fly back
while we are making nonsense of our own, maybe irene just wasnt interested in killing aconologia herself. that why she didnt kill aconologia
maybe wahl wanted to die thats why he didnt one shot laxus from the start
now i know why gajeel and levy survived Bradman, because bradman didnt really wanted to kill them


Being able to oneshot Jura doesn't mean you can run around Ishgal and wipe out FACE after it's been turned on. Not even close.
you dont know that, stop making sh!t up

U1 was made so Zeref could take Fairy Heart, not to hold Acnologia down.

 

[WoWfan]

no, there are different types of speed even then parent dragons have not shown any superior speed.

Acnologia is not restricted to his human form, and he said that this is the final battle and he has a hate for dragons, so there is no reason for him to transform into a dragon And fly back.

yes it does apparently since face did not explode or nothing when the dragons destroyed it, so magic is not an issue.

Invel did freeze FDK Flames, as they are the same type that set the earth ablaze. His regular flames could not do that.

not when you are forced back into the air against your will, that is not inexcusabl, his body was not on fire, just his clothes are melting which is what makes it feel like it burns, no proof that it would if he wasn’t in that position, against with
Inve.

Nobody in Fairy Tail is light speed. The Spriggan bar August in a suicide attack isn’t country level either,

Sting’s laser is light speed as it is made of light itself along with a fuse other feats, wall’s nuclear fusion generates energy that is large country level, Brandish is stated to make countries vanish, Irene compressed an entire country, even her meteor scales

 

[Crimson Ice]

no, there are different types of speed even then parent dragons have not shown any superior speed.

Acnologia is not restricted to his human form, and he said that this is the final battle and he has a hate for dragons, so there is no reason for him to transform into a dragon And fly back.

yes it does apparently since face did not explode or nothing when the dragons destroyed it, so magic is not an issue.

Invel did freeze FDK Flames, as they are the same type that set the earth ablaze. His regular flames could not do that.

not when you are forced back into the air against your will, that is not inexcusabl, his body was not on fire, just his clothes are melting which is what makes it feel like it burns, no proof that it would if he wasn’t in that position, against with
Inve.



Sting’s laser is light speed as it is made of light itself along with a fuse other feats, wall’s nuclear fusion generates energy that is large country level, Brandish is stated to make countries vanish, Irene compressed an entire country, even her meteor scales

Sting's laser is not light speed. Any laser attack does not get the light speed classification. Wahl's nuclear fusion was debated a lot and the highest accepted value has been island level. Not buying into Brandish's hype and can easily be inflated since we don't know the size of the country in question. U1 scales to none of Irene's moves.

 

[WoWfan]

It does when it meets the qualifications, and it meets the qualification, it is large country as it is achieved as large country at best, I don’t know where you get Island level, no inflation as it scales to the likes of Wall who achieved that level already, it can be measured from the size of other nations. Irene already scales since both of them uses the same method of pulverization

 

[GL_Nova]

Nobody in Fairy Tail is light speed. The Spriggan bar August in a suicide attack isn’t country level either,

Sooo Island lvl folk can rearrange countries and effortlessly fire country destroying blasts?

 

[WoWfan]

Sooo Island lvl folk can rearrange countries and effortlessly fire country destroying blasts?

he is just being bias

 

[Axiomus]

Talking to you is really impossible

yes i now Aconologia >> parent dragons
But aconologia couldnt come back. he took his time. you basically are saying universe one was technically useless. and aconologia could come back anytime he wanted.
utter BS
i guess this is what is expected from you.

Acnologia just wasn't in a hurry to fly back
while we are making nonsense of our own, maybe irene just wasnt interested in killing aconologia herself. that why she didnt kill aconologia
maybe wahl wanted to die thats why he didnt one shot laxus from the start
now i know why gajeel and levy survived Bradman, because bradman didnt really wanted to kill them


Being able to oneshot Jura doesn't mean you can run around Ishgal and wipe out FACE after it's been turned on. Not even close.
you dont know that, stop making sh!t up

Lmao, the amount of hypocrisy in your posts is honestly baffling. The pure and utter wank for Irene here is hilarious for someone who accuses other people of wanking. First of all, find me one panel where it says Acnologia couldn't come back. Find me one panel where it says that Universe One physically held down Acnologia and prevented him from moving. Universe One is an enchantment on the earth that rearranges the landscape. It doesn't do anything to Acnologia's body (magic doesn't effect him anyways). If Irene had a spell that could seal Acnologia indefinitely, then the Alvarez Empire wouldn't need Fairy Heart lmao. Irene herself said that she Universe One probably send Acnologia over the ocean, and hopefully as far away from Zeref as possible. All you've done here is demonstrate that you have no idea how Universe One works and instead are just willing to make random stuff up to wank Irene.

Spoiler: Irene's own speculation of what Universe One did to Acnologia

Acnologia wasn't in a hurry to fly back....because he never turned into a dragon to fly. This is the most obvious stuff ever, and I'm honestly appalled you would take issue with this. When Acnologia was hunting down the dragon slayers, he didn't fly around at top speed. He walked casually in his human form when he fought God Serena, and then walked off still in his human form. It is indeed nonsense to suggest that Irene could kill Acnologia, that Wall was suicidal, and that Bloodman didn't really want to kill Gajeel and Levy. It is not at all the same to suggest that Acnologia was not in a hurry to fly back, because Acnologia opted to not assume his dragon form.

Saying that oneshotting Jura doesn't mean that you can run around Ishgal and wipe out face after it's been turned on is making stuff up? The irony. No making stuff up is randomly giving abilities for spells that they don't have. Oneshotting Jura is nowhere near comparable to being able to wipe out 3,000 faces. In the anime, Jura plus the rest of the mages of Fiore couldn't even land a single scratch on just one individual face. Even exlcuding that, you think Jura is on the same level as face? You think Jura has enough magical power to affect everything on the entire continent of Ishgal? Well that's exactly what face is. Face is a magical weapon with enough power to defeat every mage on Ishgal. The dragons defeated that weapon.

 

[WoWfan]

Ain’t speculation since it happened. That is debunked since he came back flying through the sky. It is just the send him away indefinitely

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Face is hax not power until reconfigured to be so, nothing impressive stat wise until then

 

[Axiomus]

no, there are different types of speed even then parent dragons have not shown any superior speed.

Acnologia is not restricted to his human form, and he said that this is the final battle and he has a hate for dragons, so there is no reason for him to transform into a dragon And fly back.

yes it does apparently since face did not explode or nothing when the dragons destroyed it, so magic is not an issue.

Invel did freeze FDK Flames, as they are the same type that set the earth ablaze. His regular flames could not do that.

not when you are forced back into the air against your will, that is not inexcusabl, his body was not on fire, just his clothes are melting which is what makes it feel like it burns, no proof that it would if he wasn’t in that position, against with
Inve.

Speed is speed. The parent dragons have shown speed in their flight that no human character has managed to match so far.

I never said Acnologia was restricted to his human form. I said he chose to assume it (which is entirely true, because he was still in his human from by the time he found Irene's location).

It doesn't actually have to explode for the parent dragon's powers to scale. The magic power contained within each and every face is enough to destroy a city. The magic power of face must be destroyed in order to actually stop face.

Natsu's regular flames setting the ground on fire.

You can still move your arm when you're forced into the air against your will. Many characters have managed to block in this position btw. Jacob doesn't have to be set on fair to be burning up. The heat alone was causing him so much pain that he was screaming out in pain.

 

[Demon Hunter]

then dont read your own post, you will end up in a nut house

I already am since I read all of your posts