Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Ramen]

Yeah apparently because @kianp67 and I are "on the frontlines" which means we read and understood what Mashima wrote. Lol

Bruh.....ya'll can't take a simple statement. I thought ya'll voted for Mira. Get over it and shut up.

 

[AmitDS]

Bruh.....ya'll can't take a simple statement. I thought ya'll voted for Mira. Get over it and shut up.

Someone's mad. Telling people to shut up reflects poorly. I have no idea why people get so heated on here. Any who... It's funny how thinking Mirajane is stronger than Gray and Gajeel, which is true, led to all this.

 

[Ramen]

Someone's mad. Telling people to shut up reflects poorly. I have no idea why people get so heated on here. Any who... It's funny how thinking Mirajane is stronger than Gray and Gajeel, which is true, led to all this.

I think Mira is stronger. No one is mad, just annoyed.

It's when you and kianp67 get mad over me thinking ya'll voted for her in the power rankings thread is annoying.

 

[AmitDS]

I think Mira is stronger. No one is mad, just annoyed.

It's when you and kianp67 get mad over me thinking ya'll voted for her in the power rankings thread is annoying.

I'm not mad though. Never was. I just thought it was an outlandish conclusion ie acknowledging that Mira > Gray and defending her from the uninformed online- - - > voting for Mira above Laxus and Gildarts.

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And well back on the topic of this thread. Nothing new has come out so Mira being stronger than Gray and beating him in a vs situation when they're both fresh still holds true.

 

[Axiomus]

I wander if dragons have some kind of enchantment that only dragon type magic can get through.

I don't think they have a special enchantment. It's just that their scales are too hard for them to be hurt by anything other than the power of another dragon (ie. dragon slaying magic).

 

[Ratrace]

I don't think they have a special enchantment. It's just that their scales are too hard for them to be hurt by anything other than the power of another dragon (ie. dragon slaying magic).

That may or may not be true because Wendy was able to hurt Zirconis but not Mira and Wendy at that time wasn't stronger than Mira

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So it not because it's stronger than other magic.

 

[Axiomus]

That may or may not be true because Wendy was able to hurt Zirconis but not Mira and Wendy at that time wasn't stronger than Mira

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So it not because it's stronger than other magic.

Dragon Slaying Magic deals more damage to dragons than regular magic. That's why Wendy is able to do more against Zirconis than Mirajane. I'm not implying that Wendy is stronger than Mirajane, or that having dragon slaying magic automatically makes you stronger than everyone else.

 

[Ratrace]

Dragon Slaying Magic deals more damage to dragons than regular magic. That's why Wendy is able to do more against Zirconis than Mirajane. I'm not implying that Wendy is stronger than Mirajane, or that having dragon slaying magic automatically makes you stronger than everyone else.

Okay thanks

 

[GL_Nova]

Also i cant help to ask, Do people think that wendy not hurting dimaria at all is a feat for dimaria? or that it implies somehow that she is invincible unless theres a god slayer?



do the math yourself. you get the same result. island level (natsus inland level punch anyways) x100,000,000 will always result in multi continent level power.
considering the natsus AP is only when he used the move against the god of war, you can get a higher level of multi continental if we knew how much more powerful he is now.

VS battle wiki has nothing to do with the math, math is math, you will always get the same answer if done correctly.

You put x100 mil and that’s it. I see no math, and if I knew the math I wouldn’t have asked in the first place. I only asked about Island because people here lowball like crazy. If you can do the math so easily, what I really wanna know is

Small country-continental. An each tier in between.
Small c, country, large country, & cont. Please & Thanks.

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Bro, one Rumbling Mt. Fuji and it's over.

You gotta be joking. We saw a basic dragon destroy Jura with his guild for backup. Not even a king or god lvl dragon? Just fodder

 

[Ramen]

You gotta be joking. We saw a basic dragon destroy Jura with his guild for backup. Not even a king or god lvl dragon? Just fodder

You gotta learn sarcasm.

 

[WoWfan]

That may or may not be true because Wendy was able to hurt Zirconis but not Mira and Wendy at that time wasn't stronger than Mira

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So it not because it's stronger than other magic.

DSM bypasses a Dragon’s résistance to magic, that is why there is no power level inconsistencies when fighting other non-dragon enemies

 

[Ratrace]

DSM bypasses a Dragon’s résistance to magic, that is why there is no power level inconsistencies when fighting other non-dragon enemies

Sometimes it seems like it's the type of magic the mages use not how strong

 

[Axiomus]

Dragons aren't immune to magic in the first place. It is just that their scales are really hard. Magic that doesn't try to damage their scales in the first place will still work on them.

Dragon scales probably do have some magic properties. After-all, we know that once they fall off the body and lose their colour, they also lose their power. That's why Anna was able to sow Natsu's scarf from the scales that Igneel shed with regular threads and needles. I just wouldn't call this an enchantment, because it has nothing to do with enchantment magic. Whatever you call it, this is probably what makes dragon scales so hard. Hard to the point that it's easier to shatter Irene's meteor than it is to pierce the armor of a dragon. That's why using physical weapons don't really work unless they're enchanted with dragon slaying magic.

You have people like Kagura making statements about how their scales are too tough. Kagura's archnemesis is like a million times stronger than a regular sword or spear. The idea of a regular human stabbing a dragon with a regular spear is ridiculous. The most likely scenario is that those spears were enchanted with dragon slaying magic. If you don't believe those spears were enchanted with dragon slaying magic, then that just means the soldiers possessed a level of physical strength that exceeds of Erza's meteor shattering feat. The soldiers fighting 400 years ago would have all been dragon slayers, so the reason for their strength would have been dragon slaying magic anyways.

 

[Ratrace]

Dragons aren't immune to magic in the first place. It is just that their scales are really hard. Magic that doesn't try to damage their scales in the first place will still work on them.

Dragon scales probably do have some magic properties. After-all, we know that once they fall off the body and lose their colour, they also lose their power. That's why Anna was able to sow Natsu's scarf from the scales that Igneel shed with regular threads and needles. I just wouldn't call this an enchantment, because it has nothing to do with enchantment magic. Whatever you call it, this is probably what makes dragon scales so hard. Hard to the point that it's easier to shatter Irene's meteor than it is to pierce the armor of a dragon. That's why using physical weapons don't really work unless they're enchanted with dragon slaying magic.

You have people like Kagura making statements about how their scales are too tough. Kagura's archnemesis is like a million times stronger than a regular sword or spear. The idea of a regular human stabbing a dragon with a regular spear is ridiculous. The most likely scenario is that those spears were enchanted with dragon slaying magic. If you don't believe those spears were enchanted with dragon slaying magic, then that just means the soldiers possessed a level of physical strength that exceeds of Erza's meteor shattering feat. The soldiers fighting 400 years ago would have all been dragon slayers, so the reason for their strength would have been dragon slaying magic anyways.

That’s the thing mages have a better chance against a dragon if they use dragon slayer magic than someone who doesn’t( no matter how powerful they are).

 

[Axiomus]

That’s the thing mages have a better chance against a dragon if they use dragon slayer magic than someone who doesn’t( no matter how powerful they are).

Pretty much.

 

[WoWfan]

They are highly resistant to magic, that is the point of their scales, so that they are unaffected by them, especially physical force possessing magic power too, that is what that means, It is not that Dragon Slayer Magic has more DC than wizards, they just have hax that bypasses their resistance to magic,

Again, no proof that those soldiers were Dragon Slayers because of all the dragon slayers we have encountered, non of them use weapons of any kind, though we have seen Rogue with a sword that was basically for show since he never used it.

 

[Axiomus]

They are highly resistant to magic, that is the point of their scales, so that they are unaffected by them, especially physical force possessing magic power too, that is what that means, It is not that Dragon Slayer Magic has more DC than wizards, they just have hax that bypasses their resistance to magic,

Again, no proof that those soldiers were Dragon Slayers because of all the dragon slayers we have encountered, non of them use weapons of any kind, though we have seen Rogue with a sword that was basically for show since he never used it.

There's no resistance to magic to begin with. Their scales are simply too hard. The only dragon with a blanket resistance to magic is Acnologia. All other dragons are simply resistant to magic of their own elements.

They literally spent an entire chapter explaining the creation of dragon slaying magic so that they could fight dragons. Belserion even said that an entire army wouldn't be able to bring down a single dragon, and Irene came up with dragon slaying magic as a result of that. Every single soldier that joined the war would have been a dragon slayer. That's the whole point.

 

[WoWfan]

yes there is, that is how their scales works, that does not stop them from being affected by physical hits but not the magic behind it. even Dorma Anim works like real Dragons do. Even that chapter does not help how unreliable Belserion is as he did not even told her about the risks and that he could prevent it. But none of the Dragon Slayers used any weapons, yet we have seen regular soldiers on the battle field that used weapons have hindered dragons.

 

[Axiomus]

yes there is, that is how their scales works, that does not stop them from being affected by physical hits but not the magic behind it. even Dorma Anim works like real Dragons do. Even that chapter does not help how unreliable Belserion is as he did not even told her about the risks and that he could prevent it. But none of the Dragon Slayers used any weapons, yet we have seen regular soldiers on the battle field that used weapons have hindered dragons.

Not once in the entire series has it been said that dragon scales are simply resistant to magic. All that's been said is that they were really hard. They aren't affected by physical weapons either. If they were, then Kagura, Erza, or any of the numerous soldiers in Crocus would have been effective against the GMG dragons. They weren't. If Kagura's archenemesis can't even scratch a dragon, the chances of a regular soldier slaying one is zero. Only the power of a dragon, dragon slaying magic, or weapons enchanted with dragon slaying magic have been shown to be effective.

That doesn't mean Belserion was unreliable on what it takes to beat a dragon. He simply did not predict the side effects dragon slaying magic, which has nothing to do with his statement about all the humans together not being able to beat a dragon. Belserion know how strong Irene was. Irene could enchant a stick to be able to break a sword, and she was arguably the strongest mage in her kingdom. Belserion and his dragons were losing the war, and he would have taken help if he thought it would have helped. If all it took was for regular soldiers to show up with spears, they would have done this long ago.

How do you know the Dragon Slayers 400 years ago didn't carry weapons? They would have been soldiers before they learned how to use dragon slaying magic, and may have carried weapons out of sheer habit.

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I will even take this a step further. Even with dragon slaying magic enchanted into a weapon, a regular human would not be able to take down a dragon. Gajeel is a dragon slayer that can turn his arms into swords and spears. Gajeel did basically nothing against the dragon he fought during the GMG. There's absolutely no way someone weaker Gajeel, even with dragon slaying magic enchanted into a weapon, is doing any damage to that dragon. To actually beat a dragon you need to be on the level of Natsu/Erza with a good dose of POF, and some form of dragon slaying magic on top of that.

 

[WoWfan]

It does because they are resistant to magic because everyone through magic at them and it didn't work. Physical weapons do work as the soldiers of the past have proven. Kagura's sword is for magic usage. That does mean Belserion is unreliable, he should have, he did not think that such a thing was possible so he would have thought of what might happen, he was suppose to protect Irene anyway. he is just being hyperbolic. Yet it did happen, Belserion was just an idiot for letting his pride get the better of him. Non of them showed weapons, even if we take the anime into consideration, none of them had weapons nor uniforms to match. DS enchanted weapons concept did not even exist back them. DS are weakened back then so their attacks would not be as effective, even then Dragons did not kill anyone then